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Absolutely. You're the one that is going to have to carry it. Go for a few long walks and try out both solutions and see which one works for you.I think it is kind of like shoes, rain ponchos vs rain coats, backpacks, and other items. It is extremely individual and a poll probably won't solve it for you.
Actually, that's exactly what I do. Half litre bottle with tube attached stashed in pack to keep everything cool, 1 l bottle in reserve used exclusively for refilling aforesaid half litre.Just add a tube to the bottles
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Actually, that's exactly what I do. Half litre bottle with tube attached stashed in pack to keep everything cool, 1 l bottle in reserve used exclusively for refilling aforesaid half litre.
These are exactly what I used, (although I did use a bladder when I first started training). Best thing since sliced bread .
Not forgetting to empty bladder . . .When walking, 3 things to not forget:
- drink water
- drink water
- drink water
Personally, I cannot manage to drink enough (especially if the weather is not hot) without a bladder.
I’ve used both and definitely prefer bottles over bladder.
What front-mounted water bottle do you use?I have used both bladders and bottles with drinking tube.
Ensuring adequate hydration is essential, and both methods allow for sufficient water to be carried.
By using a drinking tube, both methods allow for easy water access.
But which one allows for easy monitoring of consumption and water levels?
Front mounted water bottles….
For that reason alone I don’t use bladders any more.
On longer stretches, or more remote Caminos I would be forever digging into my pack to check water levels. That fear of running out, when using a bladder, caused me to carry too much water (weight).
Front mounted bottles, always in sight, allow precise monitoring, and I find encourages better hydration. I can drink to my planned consumption level freely, without worrying about how much water remains.
I loved bladders initially, but no way I would use them again.
I now remain fully hydrated, and don’t run out. (and don't end up carrying extra water)
Definite yes. I used this one from Amazon after using the more popular brands and it worked great, it was sturdy, easy to clean and inexpensive. Not the greatest color though.
I find this kind of bladder system very difficult to use: unscrewing cap, water leaks out, need to get it out of backpack in order to fill…
Yes, get and use. Water bottles are fine but very inconvenient to use while walking. A good bladder (easy to fill, durable but light) is worth it.
I always use a water bladder. Got mine from Decathalon. 2 ltrs
The Metaxa was for its antimicrobial properties, right?It was also very conveniently filled up with Metaxa for the return trip;
Bladders are not inherently less hygienic. So long as you are putting fresh water in them regularly they really don't need to be cleaned while on the trail.Bladders offer a certain amount of convenience but, for me, cleanliness is an issue. That is where I find a bladder inconvenient.
This post was written to dispel some common misinformation which is sometimes used to claim that hydration or water reservoirs/bladders are either less sanitary to use or are less convenient to use than bottles. Oft times there is a difference with which someone 'perceives' or approaches a products usability, but this is typically more of a subjective preference, than a real world objective and functional difference.
I'm NOT writing this post to suggest that I and others who prefer reservoirs are making the superior choice; I am posting this to preempt those who misstate facts, or who have insufficient facts to claim that using hydration reservoirs is the WRONG way to go.
1. Sanitation. With water carry, bottles have no advantage. Reservoirs stay just as sanitary. They do not require cleaning every day, nor do they need to be dried.
As with plumbing, it is the change of water and water flow through frequent use which keeps bottles, reservoirs, and tubing fresh and sanitary. With normal use, both bladders and bottles are constantly refilled and emptied That keeps them sanitary UNLESS contaminated water is introduced, or other fluids with sugars (juices, energy drinks, soda pop, etc.) are put into a bottle or a reservoir.
While working for a public health district, I did a review of the literature, which I again did in 2016 and 2022. Comparisons of bacterial contamination levels between bottles and hydration bladders were indistinguishable -- both had equally low rates of bacterial contamination. And both were at about equal risk for developing significant levels of bacteria and mold if not cleaned and dried properly prior to storage. In the last few years, the hydration reservoirs have become more modular in nature and have wider openings to access the water compartments, making it much easier to clean and prepare for storage than previous generations of the product.
One example study, from 2009:
https://www.wemjournal.org/article/S1080-6032(09)70419-3/fulltext
When it is time to store bottles or bladders away for the season, they can be sanitized if desired with a bit of bleach added to the final rinse water during cleaning. It is not necessary, but there is no harm in doing so. Then they can be rinsed out and be allowed to dry.
Molds and other nasty things occur if either container is stored with water over a period of time, or have contained other fluids which might have sugars and then are not properly washed out prior to long term storage. Mold may also form in the shorter term when fluids with sugars are exposed to warmth and sun.
Also, not all discolorations are harmful molds. Most times, it may be an algae growth from leaving stagnant water exposed to light.
2. Ease of Use. I find it personally easier to raise the mouth tube on my shoulder strap to drink from. I do not like to reach around to a side pocket, or even need to take off my pack to do so. I definitely do NOT like stuff hanging on my shoulder straps like bottles of water.
Again, this is personal preference, not an issue of something being 'better'. Access water bottles is not an issue of usability for bottle users.
3. Weight. Here is where two major claims are made, one is correct and the other is not.
A typical empty 2 liter reservoir weighs around 4 to 6 ounces. The equivalent in bottles around 1.5 to 3 ounces. Depending on bottle material used, though, bottles can weigh up to 8 ounces.
So while it is correct that bottles can weigh less, it is not a significant issue of consideration with overall backpack weight.
The other issue is reservoir water capacity and total weight.
You do not have to fill a reservoir to the tippy top. I will carry as much water as I need to carry from water source to water source. If the next water source is 32 kilometers distant under a hot sun, I will carry up to 4 liters. If the next water source is a few kilometers distant in cool weather, I might carry a half liter.
4. Refills. This is actually a subheading under 'ease of use', but it is frequently pointed to as why bottles are better than reservoirs.
I can refill my reservoir without even removing my backpack. One does not need to pull a reservoir out of the pack. It is a matter of using a quick disconnect system which is a simple and cheap add on accessory. My water filling process goes something like this if I want to refill or do a bit of a top off:
1. I pull the collapsible bottle from my side pocket and unscrew the Quick Disconnect lid from the bottle
2. I Fill the bottle and replace the Quick Disconnect lid.
3. Quick Disconnect the mouth piece from the feed tube and connect the water bottle to the feed tube.
4. Gently squeeze the water in the collapsible bottle into the feed tube, filling the water bladder.
5. Disconnect the bottle and reconnect the mouthpiece. Stow the water bottle
For those interested in adding a Quick Connect adapter to your hydration reservoir/bladder, I've added a link below. With the quick disconnect added, I don't even need to remove my backpack or daypack to do a quick and easy refill of the bladder.
NOTE: The video shows the quick disconnect being used with a water filter as used when wilderness backpacking. For a camino I leave off the filter altogether. The refill cap is simply attached to my collapsible water bottle, after it is filled with water from a fountain or faucet.
For refill bottles.... I use an extremely lightweight collapsible bottle (click the bold blue wording) that can hold up to 1.5 liters. Empty, it rolls down to a small bundle that are easily stashed in an outside pocket.
Many times, I will carry 1/2 liter in the collapsible bottle as a quick backup as the weather or the distance between water refills dictates. So, if I decide to, say, carry 1 liter of water between water resupply points, I will fill the reservoir with 1/2 liter, and then carry 1/2 liter in the bottle, keeping the bottle partially collapsed and tucked into a side pocket.
By doing the above I do not need to see the water bladder itself in order to be assured of adequate water or to avoid accidentally running out of water.
The collapsible bottle I use is just one container option. The refill adapter with the Quick Connect kit can also fit on a variety of empty bottled water containers.
So those are the major issues that always seem to come up. There are others, but those above are the major ones I keep seeing pop up..
I'm training with one at the moment - so far so good, not cumbersome at allWhen walking, 3 things to not forget:
- drink water
- drink water
- drink water
Personally, I cannot manage to drink enough (especially if the weather is not hot) without a bladder.
hahaha - that's the first thing I liked about it (the color) ... yah I'm training with one right now, so far it's okayDefinite yes. I used this one from Amazon after using the more popular brands and it worked great, it was sturdy, easy to clean and inexpensive. Not the greatest color though. View attachment 180372
Hydration Bladder, 1.5L-2L-3L Water Bladder for Hiking Backpack Leak Proof Water Reservoir Storage Bag, BPA-Free Water Pouch Hydration Pack for Camping Cycling Running, Military Green 1.5-2-3 Liter
So long as you drink enough to satisfy your thirst and your urine passes the color test, why does it matter exactly how much you drink?use bottles. Tried bladder once on the Bright Angel Trail in the Grand Canyon. I thought it would help me stay hydrated. What I discovered was that even though I thought I was drinking a lot was that, at the end of the day, I had drunk a lot less than I thought. I went back to bottles; now I always know how much I have drunk
When walking, 3 things to not forget:
- drink water
- drink water
- drink water
I like mine..
IMHO drinking is also some form of self-control. I am notoriously guilty of not drinking enough water during my 'regular' days. Somehow I've learnt to know better when i walk. I trained myself to take that pull on the tube within some time. I trained for it some years ago by setting up an alarm in my phone that "yelled" at me every 15 mins "DRINK WATER!" and sort of got into a habit...What I discovered was that even though I thought I was drinking a lot was that, at the end of the day, I had drunk a lot less than I thought. I went back to bottles; now I always know how much I have drunk.
Yeah I heard about it on the Camino from one Belgian Lady. Although she absolutely seriously told me that if you drink 10L of water you will die.This will result is "water poisoning" i.e. loss of electrolytes and low blood sugar.
You need to balance water intake with EATING healthy snacks contain salt and sugars to replace what has been burned and sweated away.
-Paul
Quite possible if you were to drink that much water in a short amount of time.Yeah I heard about it on the Camino from one Belgian Lady. Although she absolutely seriously told me that if you drink 10L of water you will die.
Any store water bottle you like!What front-mounted water bottle do you use?
I have walked with and without the bladder.
The weight of a bladder is usually less than the equivalent size bottles etc. Plus, just pop the mouthpiece in and drink. It is a no brainer for me.
How do you front mount your water bottles on to your backpack? Is that already built into the pack straps or do you have a handy way of doing this?I have used both bladders and bottles with drinking tube.
Ensuring adequate hydration is essential, and both methods allow for sufficient water to be carried.
By using a drinking tube, both methods allow for easy water access.
But which one allows for easy monitoring of consumption and water levels?
Front mounted water bottles….
For that reason alone I don’t use bladders any more.
On longer stretches, or more remote Caminos I would be forever digging into my pack to check water levels. That fear of running out, when using a bladder, caused me to carry too much water (weight).
Front mounted bottles, always in sight, allow precise monitoring, and I find encourages better hydration. I can drink to my planned consumption level freely, without worrying about how much water remains.
I loved bladders initially, but no way I would use them again.
I now remain fully hydrated, and don’t run out. (and don't end up carrying extra water)
Just Google "water bottle clip"How do you front mount your water bottles on to your backpack? Is that already built into the pack straps or do you have a handy way of doing this?
Can't agree more Robbo. I have an Aarn pack with front poI have used both bladders and bottles with drinking tube.
Ensuring adequate hydration is essential, and both methods allow for sufficient water to be carried.
By using a drinking tube, both methods allow for easy water access.
But which one allows for easy monitoring of consumption and water levels?
Front mounted water bottles….
For that reason alone I don’t use bladders any more.
On longer stretches, or more remote Caminos I would be forever digging into my pack to check water levels. That fear of running out, when using a bladder, caused me to carry too much water (weight).
Front mounted bottles, always in sight, allow precise monitoring, and I find encourages better hydration. I can drink to my planned consumption level freely, without worrying about how much water remains.
I loved bladders initially, but no way I would use them again.
I now remain fully hydrated, and don’t run out. (and don't end up carrying extra water)
I do, love it!My 2L water bladder weighs 165 gms.
My 2 x 1L bottles weigh 50 gms.
Though to be fair in comparison, my drinking tube weighs 70 gms.
I just 'pop' in the mouthpiece and drink
It's not so much about the weight.
Though bottles are lighter.
They have the same convenience, using a tube.
For me it's all about visibility.
I have a 'water gauge' sitting in front of me.
But hey, like any other gear, we all have our preferences.
Though I'm surprised I don't see many people using a drinking tube with bottles?
excellent points markos!I have walked with and without the bladder.
I am a NO
reasons
1 you can sip but don’t know how much you have consumed. Can be way out
2 difficult to refill
3 if it’s 2-3 l that’s a lot of weight. 2-3 kgs
4 in many parts of the Camino there is abundant water. Even heading over the Pyrenees there are 3 places to top up.
5 a 500ml water bottle on each hip provides balance and usually enough.
Yes there are exceptions such as long stretches on the VDLP. Then you need a different strategy
My advice is to keep the weight down and check each days distance and plan water appropriately
Cheers
Mark O
Have a glance at this Water IntoxicationIMHO drinking is also some form of self-control. I am notoriously guilty of not drinking enough water during my 'regular' days. Somehow I've learnt to know better when i walk. I trained myself to take that pull on the tube within some time. I trained for it some years ago by setting up an alarm in my phone that "yelled" at me every 15 mins "DRINK WATER!" and sort of got into a habit...
Yeah I heard about it on the Camino from one Belgian Lady. Although she absolutely seriously told me that if you drink 10L of water you will die.
I remember seeing the result of an online poll, the question asked being "Would you wear a facemask if it was not mandated by law?"So 50% say no and the other 56% answered differently.
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I have an Aarn pack and find the bottles fit on the side of the pack perfectly leaving the balance pockets free.Can't agree more Robbo. I have an Aarn pack with front po
ckets, so super easy. I also like the tube that you screw into plastic bottles. So much easier than bladder cleaning ( and yes I do reuse the bottles).