Pipes anyone?

[Camino Chrissy]

I enjoy threads that have a themed topic of pictures, where members can join in with their personal favorites.
@David Tallan is in Salamanca and in looking through my own photos of its cathedral, I came across my own of its beautiful organ pipes. I am always enthralled in cathedrals when I look upward and see them in all their "glory". Interestingly, some larger cathedrals have more than just one.
Here are a few of mine and I'd enjoy seeing yours...

In order:
Salamanca, Segovia, Avila, Moissac, Cahors

 

[SabsP]

Great thread Chris!
My picture is from last month in Santiago.



On my list is also a visit to the royal basilica of St - Maximin la Sainte-Baume. Built late 18th century and still has the original 2960 pipes.

Les Orgues | Les amis de la Basilique

www.lesamisdelabasilique.fr

 

[Camino Chrissy]

Great thread Chris!
My picture is from last month in Santiago.

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On my list is also a visit to the royal basilica of St - Maximin la Sainte-Baume. Built late 18th century and still has the original 2960 pipes.

Les Orgues | Les amis de la Basilique

www.lesamisdelabasilique.fr

Thanks, Sabine! They are all such incredible works of art and each one unique.

 

[KeyserSoza]

“O Danny Boy, the pipes the pipes are calling”

 

[Yoyo]

My first picture was taken in Roncesvalles. I find it very unique how they integrated the pipes into the arquitecture:



The next one is from Nuestra Señora del Manzano, the church as you enter Castrojeriz:



The last one was taken in Santiago Cathedral. I tried to position myself so that the pipes of the opposite prospect would be captured as well:

 

[Camino Chrissy]

Thank you, @Yoyo! I love your additional commentary.

 

[wynrich]

Thank you, Camino Chrissy. I've never paid much attention to the pipes, but now I think I will.

 

[Tia Valeria]

Also Santiago - we were fascinated by the horizontal pipes so one looking at them and one from below well as the view down the Cathedral. Taken in 2011

 

[Griffiths]

The church of Los Arcos ( C.frances), though only a parish church, has some pretty spectacular anthropomorphic organ pipes - with mouth, eyes, etc.

@David Tallan is in Salamanca and in looking through my own photos of its cathedral, I came across my own of its beautiful organ pipes. I am always enthralled in cathedrals when I look upward and see them in all their "glory". Interestingly, some larger cathedrals have more than just one.
Here are a few of mine and I'd enjoy seeing yours...

In order:
Salamanca, Segovia, Avila, Moissac, Cahors
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[VNwalking]

The organ pipes are one of the first things I notice in a church or cathedral.
These from the Cathedral in Santiago. I actually took the photo because of all the cherubs, who I hadn't noticed so much before the restoration. Now they look like they're jumping out from between the pipes like ants pouring out from cracks in a wall.

 

[Camo]

I'd enjoy seeing yours...

Mine are via google trekker panos and here is one looking east and up at Santiago de Compostela Cathedral with alter and botofumerio in the middle, saved as a windows background

 

[dick bird]

Los Arcos, Camino Francés. The church is overwhelming, wall to wall baroque.

 

[dick bird]

Mine are via google trekker panos and here is one looking east and up at Santiago de Compostela Cathedral with alter and botofumerio in the middle, saved as a windows background

Please note Forum rule 12:

12) For photos uploaded to the forum (including the Photo section) the following rules apply:

• Photos uploaded to the forum are the property of the person who took the photo.
• Please only upload photos that are your own.

 

[Camo]

• Photos uploaded to the forum are the property of the person who took the photo.
• Please only upload photos that are your own.

You seem to be confused about "photos" vs "works" -are you familiar with the leading case of Feist?

I uploaded a WORK and "just in case" I retained a copyright notation to google but google does not bother itself with such trivial matters.

The gravamen of Feist was IMHO this passage:

"This principle, known as the idea/expression or fact/expression dichotomy, applies to all works of authorship. As applied to a factual compilation, assuming the absence of original written expression, only the compiler's selection and arrangement may be protected; the raw facts may be copied at will. This result is neither unfair nor unfortunate. It is the means by which copyright advances the progress of science and art."

Certainly a P&S photo can attract attention, particularly if the owner of a "scene" was not asked permission.

 

[dick bird]

I uploaded a WORK

I would argue that a photo is a work, and I think there is a difference between a photo and an entry in a telephone directory.

Here are a few of mine and I'd enjoy seeing yours...

I think it is pretty clear what @Camino Chrissy was inviting us to do: upload photos we had taken ourselves. So it isn´t a question of copyright. Incidentally, the passage you quote would not work as a defence against plagiarism in an academic article where raw facts may certainly not be copied at will. Anyway, let´s agree to differ on this one.

 

[Camino Chrissy]

I think it is pretty clear what @Camino Chrissy was inviting us to do: upload photos we had taken ourselves.

Yes, and I was a bit confused by @Camo's photo, but appreciate that a mod clarified the rule.

 

[Kathar1na]

The church of Los Arcos ( C.frances), though only a parish church, has some pretty spectacular anthropomorphic organ pipes - with mouth, eyes, etc.

Los Arcos, Camino Francés. The church is overwhelming, wall to wall baroque.

Wow, this is the first time that I hear about this and see this! I think that we popped into the Los Arcos church but seeing that it was all Baroque I don't think that we spent much time there. Or maybe we did not even enter. I regret it now ... thanks for this. How unusual!

 

[Camino Chrissy]

Or maybe we did not even enter. I regret it now ... thanks for this. How unusual!

This was also one of my "missed regrets". In googling the church with its baroque interior, I saw no photo of those pipes, but I didn't dig deep like you often do.

 

[Dov of the Galilee]

I thought this thread was going in a very different direction when pipes were mentioned

 

[Camino Chrissy]

The church of Los Arcos ( C.frances), though only a parish church, has some pretty spectacular anthropomorphic organ pipes - with mouth, eyes, etc.

I had to look up this word as I'd never heard it before. It's perfect for describing those pipes...now if I can only remember it.

 

[AlanSykes]

I passed these pipes today in the Desfiladero de Despeñaperros on the Camino Mozárabe por Ciudad Real. Known as the Cerro de Los Órganos, and declared a Monumento Natural in 2001.

 

[Camino Chrissy]

I passed these pipes today in the Desfiladero de Despeñaperros on the Camino Mozárabe por Ciudad Real. Known as the Cerro de Los Órganos, and declared a Monumento Natural in 2001.

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Alan, you are a wealth of interesting facts on your less traveled Caminos, and this is one of them, even though it has nothing to do with being built by human hands.

 

[Canuck]

 

[dick bird]

Los Arcos church is open for an hour or two every day, the opening times are online but apparently not reliable. We were just lucky enough to be there at the right time in 2018, but not when we passed through again this year. It is spectacular, not everyone´s idea of beautiful but not to be missed if you get the chance. In the meantime, pipes of another sort. In Zamora, 2012, performing for a wedding.

And a few other photos of the interior of Los Arcos church, but no pipes.

 

[Camino Chrissy]

I see the Los Arcos main organ pipes in your 2nd photo on the far right.

 

[Camo]

Yes, and I was a bit confused by @Camo's photo, but appreciate that a mod clarified the rule.

Sorry about the confusion. Obviously you did not know I make "Virtual Caminos" for myself and others who are not fortunate enough to be able to walk a Camino (for whatever reason)

The Rules allow for this (in theory) per

3) No arguments about who is a tourist and who is a “real" pilgrim. The forum is intended for all who are interested in the Camino. Please do not challenge the sincerity, intentions, or authenticity of another person’s Camino.

In this case I had highlighted a "virtuous tour" of this church but it also did not show the pipes (unless you spin it around)

panorama

 

[Camo]

I would argue that a photo is a work, and I think there is a difference between a photo and an entry in a telephone directory.

Yes I (and most people) would agree but at the time of Feist it was 7 years before we had digital images (and 4 years before the "information super highway") so the question did not come up until a later court ruled on that (no need for details here).

However the huge coincidence here is that the term "sweat of the brow" which was disapproved/overturned in Feist applies in spades to your effort to somehow climb up to that balcony to take your photo.

" Lower courts that adopted a "sweat of the brow" or "industrious collection" test -- which extended a compilation's copyright protection beyond selection and arrangement to the facts themselves -- misconstrued the 1909 Act and eschewed the fundamental axiom of copyright law that no one may copyright facts or ideas."

 

[Camo]

(unless you spin it around)

Just to fully explain where these illusive pipes are located they are in the middle of this "work", on the left and it is not clear if they extend across to the right (maybe Dick can tell us)



And could that just possibly be Dick in the blue shirt taking a photo of what seems to be a Last Supper scene directly below the pipes

 

[dick bird]

No organ pipes here, just the organ players. The younger monk is receiving some instruction in preparation for a recital in Leyre monastery, near Jaca. We couldn´t stay for the performance, but the practice was pretty good.
The light level was low, hence the atmospheric blurriness of the image.

 

[dick bird]

But wait, there´s more, Santiago Cathedral, 2012 & 2015 respectively. Again, apologies for the quality, I used a hand-held compact camera for both. Note the cupids and putti or whatever they are crawling all over the pipes in the 2012 picture. The Baroque had a strange fascination with chubby pink children, and how, in the 2015 picture, the pipes protrude assertively into the Romanesque aisle. Like many, I have a love-hate relationship with the Baroque: magnificent façades, kitschy interiors.

 

[David Tallan]

Here are some pipe photos taken today in Salamanca. The first four are from a couple of organs in the new cathedral, front and back. The last is from the Old cathedral. Admittedly, the pipes are not exactly visible, bit I figured as it is one of the oldest organs in Europe, it merits inclusion.

 

[Camino Chrissy]

The pipes need not be grandiose to be included. In fact, I was hoping to see a variety of smaller pipes from modest churches or chapels.