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Pilgrim numbers on the Primitivo 2022/2023/2024

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I was wondering what the recent numbers were per month on the Primitivo. I put the data from the pilgrim's office in a simple graph, so I could as well post it here:

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Yearly totals
2022: 20.958 (11.150 Oviedo/6.806 Lugo)
2023: 20.402 (12.214 Oviedo/5.996 Lugo)
2024*: 23.936 (13.788 Oviedo/7.881 Lugo)

* Until the 7th of December

So the numbers are up by a whopping 17% between 2023 and 2024. And after that bump in August 2022, the numbers have levelled out a bit over the months of May till September. But August still considerably busier.
 
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Checked one more thing. The numbers in 2024 starting from Oviedo. That gives a bit of a different perspective:

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So then May till September are all very similar, only July has slightly lower numbers.

This one is with Lugo as starting point:

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So the August 'crowds' are mainly caused by pilgrims walking the last 100 kms. So all in all very similar to the Francés.
 
Interesting! Thank you.

Are the dates recorded as finishing in SdC? So people recorded in July may have started in June etc?

I’m planning a July 2025 Primitivo ….. so exciting!
 
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So the August 'crowds' are mainly caused by pilgrims walking the last 100 kms. So all in all very similar to the Francés.
I didn't realise just the last 100km numbers on the Primitivo were that high, and to be honest I don't really understand it. Lugo aside, all the best of it is behind you. I get that people might be looking for an alternative to Sarria, but it seems to me like the thought process is not much more than, "I heard the Primitivo is nice but I don't have time/energy for all of it, I'll just do the last 100km," without looking into what makes it nice and where those parts are.

Disclosure: I developed a cold right after Lugo and it rained quite a bit for those next two days, then we joined the Francés, so those days were particular unmemorable for me — literally, as in I barely remember anything! If I walk the Primitivo again, I'll definitely do the Via Verde alternative after Lugo.
 
I didn't realise just the last 100km numbers on the Primitivo were that high, and to be honest I don't really understand it. Lugo aside, all the best of it is behind you. I get that people might be looking for an alternative to Sarria, but it seems to me like the thought process is not much more than, "I heard the Primitivo is nice but I don't have time/energy for all of it, I'll just do the last 100km," without looking into what makes it nice and where those parts are.

Disclosure: I developed a cold right after Lugo and it rained quite a bit for those next two days, then we joined the Francés, so those days were particular unmemorable for me — literally, as in I barely remember anything! If I walk the Primitivo again, I'll definitely do the Via Verde alternative after Lugo.
Just wondering if it's got anything to do with it being slightly less than 100km from Lugo 🤔. (Also got solid rain for the 3 days from Lugo and it's mainly on road verges so empathise Nick)
 
I was wondering what the recent numbers were per month on the Primitivo. I put the data from the pilgrim's office in a simple graph, so I could as well post it here:

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Yearly totals
2022: 20.958 (11.150 Oviedo/6.806 Lugo)
2023: 20.402 (12.214 Oviedo/5.996 Lugo)
2024*: 23.936 (13.788 Oviedo/7.881 Lugo)

* Until the 7th of December

So the numbers are up by a whopping 17% between 2023 and 2024. And after that bump in August 2022, the numbers have levelled out a bit over the months of May till September. But August still considerably busier.
Interesting. Looking at the bars on the chart, I would not have expected 2024 to be so much ahead of the other two years, especially not so far ahead of 2022.
 
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Interesting! Thank you.

Are the dates recorded as finishing in SdC? So people recorded in July may have started in June etc?

I’m planning a July 2025 Primitivo ….. so exciting!

Yes, these are arrival dates in Santiago, registered by the pilgrim's office. I think most people walk in about 14/15 days from Oviedo to Santiago.

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I didn't realise just the last 100km numbers on the Primitivo were that high, and to be honest I don't really understand it. Lugo aside, all the best of it is behind you. I get that people might be looking for an alternative to Sarria, but it seems to me like the thought process is not much more than, "I heard the Primitivo is nice but I don't have time/energy for all of it, I'll just do the last 100km," without looking into what makes it nice and where those parts are.

Neither did I. It must indeed be to qualify for a Compostela and to avoid the crowds. But still a strange choice IMHO. In Melide you'll be back in the crowds and I think the Sanabrés from Ourense is a much more attractive 100 km alternative. So yes, misinformation might be part of it too.

I am actually considering walking the Primitivo just from Oviedo to Lugo.
 
Interesting. Looking at the bars on the chart, I would not have expected 2024 to be so much ahead of the other two years, especially not so far ahead of 2022.
I agree. That's why I added the total numbers.
 
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"I heard the Primitivo is nice but I don't have time/energy for all of it, I'll just do the last 100km," without looking into what makes it nice and where those parts are.
It may be that people wanting to just walk the last 100 kms might compare Lugo to Sarria, both in terms of what there is to see and how easy it is to get there — Lugo wins, IMHO, on both counts. I agree that the last 100 km aren’t the most spectacular part of the Primitivo.

If I walk the Primitivo again, I'll definitely do the Via Verde alternative after Lugo
I know you missed Santa Eulalia last time, but I think it would make those last 100 km much more enjoyable! There are tracks on Camiño Verde alternative through Santa Eulalia. Personally, I didn’t find the stretch from Santa Eulalia to Friol to be any more pleasant than Santa Eulalia to Ferreira, and Friol to Sobrado had a long (5-8km?) slog on pavement after joining the Norte. But visiting Sobrado was also a highlight. So Lugo + Camiño Verde + Santa Eulalia + Sobrado dos Monxes makes for what I think is a more enjoyable last 100 km.
 
I am actually considering walking the Primitivo just from Oviedo to Lugo.
I almost did that a couple of years ago because I was with a friend and we were short on time after the Salvador. In the end we took transport to Lugo so he could check it out, and then to Tui, from where we did the last part of the CP instead.
 
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Interesting. Looking at the bars on the chart, I would not have expected 2024 to be so much ahead of the other two years, especially not so far ahead of 2022.
Makes sense as the total numbers are already 60,000 up on 2022.

It may be that people wanting to just walk the last 100 kms might compare Lugo to Sarria, both in terms of what there is to see and how easy it is to get there — Lugo wins, IMHO, on both counts. I agree that the last 100 km aren’t the most spectacular part of the Primitivo.
...and its over 15km shorter which is probably significant when walking @ 100km.

I agree that from Lugo, the best is behind you! With, of course the grand exception of Santa Eulalia. However, I have yet to do the Camiño Verde, as I wanted to re-experience the final 100 km, since it was many years since I had.
The first stretch from Lugo following briefly the Mino and then the Mera is really lovely and one I can highly recommend - plenty of good picnic spots !
 
I agree. That's why I added the total numbers.
I think the bars are off, then. Just looking at the bars, there is not a significant difference in Jan or Feb. In March, 2024 is about 600 ahead of 2023. May about 400, June about 500, July about 200, August maybe 450. The rest around the same or lower than 2023 (like April, September, and December). There is no way that is showing a 3,000 difference. If the totals are correct, the bars are mistaken.
 
I think the bars are off, then. Just looking at the bars, there is not a significant difference in Jan or Feb. In March, 2024 is about 600 ahead of 2023. May about 400, June about 500, July about 200, August maybe 450. The rest around the same or lower than 2023 (like April, September, and December). There is no way that is showing a 3,000 difference. If the totals are correct, the bars are mistaken.
I had a second look and you are totally right. The totals of the bars don't correspond with the other totals I found on the PO's website.

These are the totals of the bars:
2022: 21.360
2023: 20.155
2024: 22.198

I don't know which numbers are correct. The statistics of the PO give different totals. For example: there is also a slight difference between the totals of the starting locations and the totals of the nationality of pilgrims (both are higher than the totals of the bars though). Maybe caused by missing data?
 
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Neither did I. It must indeed be to qualify for a Compostela and to avoid the crowds. But still a strange choice IMHO. In Melide you'll be back in the crowds and I think the Sanabrés from Ourense is a much more attractive 100 km alternative. So yes, misinformation might be part of it too.

I am actually considering walking the Primitivo just from Oviedo to Lugo.
From lugo take the Verde and avoid the frances entirely
 
From lugo take the Verde and avoid the frances entirely
I considered that, but if I recall well the distances were too long for me. I might leave my decision open. Calculate about 5/6 days extra and decide when arriving in Lugo whether I'll continue on the Primitivo, take my chances on the Verde or bus to Santiago and walk to Finisterre/Muxía (which I still have never done).
 
Where can I find more information about going from " Lugo + Camiño Verde + Santa Eulalia + Sobrado dos Monxes" as peregrina2000 recommends. I plan to do the Primitivo in July.

Thanks.
 
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Where can I find more information about going from " Lugo + Camiño Verde + Santa Eulalia + Sobrado dos Monxes" as peregrina2000 recommends. I plan to do the Primitivo in July.

Thanks.
Fred just noted your question: you might find these two threads useful, especially the photo of the start Point from @Telelama. I also talked about it a little in my 'live from the Camino Primitivo' thread when I followed the information given in these two threads to walk it July 23.

I didn't go to Santa Eulalia.
Take the Camino Verde over to the Norte, and then along the Norte variant to avoid the crush on the Frances. The Norte variant joins the Frances right at the airport. It really minimized the time spent on the Frances.

As @ratherbefollowingflechas states, the first day to Friol is very, very nice. The way is well marked. Simply follow the Camino out of Lugo, cross the bridge over the river, turn right to walk past the swimming pool and the split is just a bit further. Follow the Camino Verde up river following the municipal path paralleling the river. Don't miss the left turn off the river at roughly one mile. This was one of the best Camino days we've ever walked. It was so beautiful. I'll post an image of where the Camino Primitivo and Camino Verde split. You can see the small green arrow at the bottom of the Camino marker pointing right.

The second day from Friol to Sobrado is not as well marked. You must pay attention. We only saw two other pilgrims on these two days, and they got lost several times on day 2. They would pass us, and an hour or so later they'd pass us again stating that they lost the way. They were not paying close enough attention and walked 4 km out of their way. Twice when we were walking with them they missed a green arrow spray painted on the asphalt and we had to call them back. The green arrow can be challenging to see at times.

The Camino Verde is very nice and is worth doing for sure.

Hi Peter, if you're looking to avoid the crush after joining the Frances at Melide and all the road walking on the Primitivo after Lugo, the Camino Verde is absolutely the way to go. If you add the Norte Variant so that you join the Frances at the airport, it's even better.

Of all the days we've spent walking our four Caminos, the two days of the Verde were the absolute best! It was so beautiful. We walked the Verde on May 29 and 30, so it was still very spring like, especially after the week of rains. The grass was tall, the flowers in full bloom, the trees full of leaves; it was beautiful. There were sections along the second day where the route takes you through old abandoned farm access roads where at times a weed whacker would have been helpful to make our way.

Yes, the elevated walkway has been repaired.

Day 1 to Friol is very well marked with green arrows. We never got lost, but there was an intersection roughly halfway through the day where the arrows pointed both right and left. We ended up going right and it was just fine. There's very little road walking, but where you had to walk along the road, there was very little traffic. The exception is at the end. You walk out of the woods and have roughly two miles of road walking to get to Friol. While we didn't stay here, the food at Casa Benigno in Friol was very good, and the service was excellent.

Leaving Friol on day two was a little confusing since we tried to follow the PDF write up. The write up was, with apologies to the author, far too detailed. For example, it says within the first mile to cross a wooden bridge and "bear right", which gave us the impression that the path divided and we should take the right. There was no divided path. The path simply goes right. A hundred meters further the path comes to a T with no green arrow that we could find. We thought this was where we should bear right, but it didn't make sense for leaving town, so we correctly went left. We only saw two other pilgrims on these two days. They went right at the T and got lost. They got lost several times on day 2, but mostly from not paying attention. The green arrows on the black asphalt can be difficult to see at times, plus some vegetation has grown over some arrows.

Once you merge with the Norte, it's mostly walking along a path beside a very busy road. In a few miles the way takes you away from the busy road and you walk along a suburban road with houses on the left and right until you arrive at Sobrado. We stayed at the very nice Pension Via Sacre. They have one of the best breakfasts that I've seen on Camino, and the café next door does a great pilgrim meal.

The Norte Variant leaves the Norte just past A Gandara and is the right way if you're looking to avoid the Frances. Lots of road walking, but mostly on small secondary roads. I don't think we saw more than four cars pass by us on this section. There's roughly four miles along a road with heavy traffic, but there's a gravel service road alongside that is easy walking, but zero shade. Then you cross a bridge over the A-54 right at the end of the runway and join the Frances.

Do note that there is zero support along the Verde. No cafes. No gas stations. Nothing at all, so you have to bring all the food and water you'll need.
 

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