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… It was suggested to shave off 4 kms by turning off at Mirabueno …That sounds really scary!
I’ve made an image of your track alongside mine. It looks as though you might have ended up on the other side of the valley. I hardly dare say, but I loved the walk from Mirabueno to Mandayona. What a shame you missed it. Best wishes for easier days to come!
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I don't know how it happened, but when navigating/following the tracks, I had a map with contour lines on it. I have marked Mirabueno with a green X on the attached screenshot You can see the ridge all along, getter steeper as you approach Aragosa. We descended at a bit of an angle, on a decent path that was marked. It looks like you might have missed an alternative shortcut that is shown in white on the screenshot.Also how did @cclearly see the contour lines on Wikiloc
Also reminds me that I hiked Oslo to Trondheim, arriving at the Cathedral on 29 July, San Olav Day… oh! these memories. Keep ‘em coming!We're jumping ahead of you. And...
Absolutely. It has a nice long tunel!
Coming into Burgos off the San Olav, you get to it most efficiently by scrambling down an embankment before Modubar de la Cuesta.
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my Wikiloc now has a tendency to FREEZE and often will not allow me to zoom
Perhaps use another app as a backup? I use OSMand, and have never had trouble with it.Wikilocs always seemed slightly to one side of where it should have been, but after an initial scramble or two we found the dirt road and got into ´town´ unscathed.
Not a twitcher. But those are probably Griffon Vultures.three HUGE birds of prey (twitchers please identify with my inadequate photos).
It was the Gudbrandsdalsleden… a mouthful but a great hike as long as you can carry tent/food and Jetboil… (Ivar country..)
Thank you VN!Wikilost.
How good you can chuckle at a situation that could have turned out much worse, @filly.
Perhaps use another app as a backup? I use OSMand, and have never had trouble with it.
Not a twitcher. But those are probably Griffon Vultures.
Yep! I’ve had my museli.. always have some in my backpack, but difficult to get unsweetened and unchocoletty type here unless a larger supermercado ( Jordan’s preferred or Messrs Lidl).That dinner look's superb! And you're right, €50 is very modest. Might have to resort to packed lunches for the week to balance the budget but it'd be worth it...
Haven't had Snapper since I left NZ 5 years ago..... I'm practically drooling.
Oh well, muesli for breakfast......
That's the one.Thank you VN!
Pimento Rojo.
That's a good idea. I regularly use 3 map apps.Perhaps use another app as a backup?
Gosh, they look overcooked.plate of veggies
… no Siree! Warm and fab! This is Euros 19 I think. And NO patatas bravas. You are either cruel or a very fussy one. The place is smart, clean and buzzing with local worthies. Anything to keep me kms away from a Menu del Peregrino!Gosh, they look overcooked.
And the salad is iceberg. I hope El Doncel is much, much better!
Haha, the latter, I guess.You are either cruel or a very fussy one.
Yep… but hitting 40 degrees today… iceberg IS THE BUSINESS! Let’s see what El Doncel come up with tonight (they could not manage an ‘in-person resetvation). Cela promet?!?Yep, many years experience have taught me to ignore the tourists and follow the locals. Often to a side / back street . And especially at lunchtime, following the office workers is often really rewarding!! Great food, moderately priced….
I have to agree with VN on one point though. Iceberg?
I have hardly ever had iceberg on Spain. In Coviran yesterday evening (self catering to pay for Michelin tonight) the salad on sale was ‘épuisée’ as they say in French… well, well and truly past it’s best!Haha, the latter, I guess.I'm a vegetarian and in Spain I get so tired of iceberg salads and bad veggies.
Right. Well, your fare later will be even better.and hey, give me and t’others a break .,, HOW LITTLE?!? I say cheers again to that!
Yikes! I did do it! A 45 minute distance from the truckers resto at the roadway turned into 4 hours. My Wikilost took me to Algora rather than Aragosa/I took a wrong turn in Mirabueno.. I SHOULD have backtracked but relished a mini-adventure, not realising there were valleys and gorges in-between. Anyway, I survived. I was not phased or panicked. Just intent on reaching my target ultimately - I KNEW someone had done it before me (confirmed by an Aragosa inhabitant).
Thank you for this clarification, duly confirmed!Siguenza, which appears to be where you are, is an interesting place (with good signage) that explains the urban development. Starting from the castillo and moving downhill in ever increasing semi-circles. New arrivals outside the walls, walls moved to accommodate growth, newer arrival extra muros, etc... and eventually new and more salubrious town well outside the walls at the bottom of the hill. I guess a lot of towns are similar but it seemed very obvious/well explained in Siguenza.
I had no pack and no trouble… so sorry to hear this.Nice little town. There were a lot of Ukranians there (mostly pre-conflict arrivals but plus some friends and family) working in the restaurants. Lovely people with excellent English. There is a wonderful Romanesque church/museum on the edge of town. Be careful walking round the castle, our friend broke his leg there.
Safely in Miedes de Atienza. Lunch stop!
This is concerning. Can you be more specific about what is only working “vaguely?” I am no tech wiz, but wikiloc works like a charm for me.My Wiki’lost-the-plot’ vaguely works, given time (for it) and patience (from me).
The simplest way is to RESTART your iPhone.It may be the heat.
As I said before, it just locks/refuses to show stats/stops recording/takes ages to resume.
It then advises me that ‘you must have taken a short cut’!
It will reengage but it takes time..
I did send one screenshot of a blank screen..
I don't want to lose my data so dare not delete and reload app….
I have learned from past experience, that the only way to cross these barriers is to put both hands firmly on barrier, bend forward at the waist, lift one leg backward and over and then the other. Otherwise I fall backwards, unbalanced from my backpack!another case of a high jump or limbo dance!
Wait! You would have missed the restored Ermita Virgen de las Lagunas that is just a couple of km west of Villálvaro. Those new arrows take you west past the Ermita (which was closed) and a bit later, north to rejoin the highway. It was very nice walking on dirt farm roads through fields, and was only a bit longer than the road route. (The road was the wiggly hypoteneuse of a triangle, while we took the other 2 sides.)There are brightly painted, official-looking signs leading out of Villávaro across the fields then mysteriously disappearing. Ignore them. Go back to the road and carry on.
Good news that there is now a pace to stay in Caracena. When we were there, even the restaurant was closed.
and meeting their shepherd (who was the bar owner's son and chef's brother) in front of the church. The population may have been on 17,
We wanted to surprise you.OMG why did noone warn me!
We ate there! There was a 94th birthday party going on so things were hopping late into the day.Well just remember next time to eat here!!
Bless Champaign, Illinois as ever. Abrazos!Yes, you are right, it was a wonderful day (except for those last few kms alongside the road). San Esteban was the town where I went into a little grocery store looking for fruit for the next few days. The owner said she didn’t have any, but that I should hop in her car and she would take me to the other grocery store in town. Who does that?! And she then proceeded to give me a little tour, including a stop at her favorite river swimming hole (the kids all go to the pool these days, but she sticks with the river, muddy as it may look!)
Not much up in the castle, but I always walk up to the castle for the views. Lots of interesting bodegas along the way. And there are a few nice romanesque churches to see, too! All in all, a good afternoon awaits.
We ate there! There was a 94th birthday party going on so things were hopping late into the day.
Hope you sort out the lodging without too much hassle. We stayed in El Rincón de Elena, which is a very pretty casa, right on the camino on the way out of town. Run by two sisters who take very good care of things. 686 46 76 00.
Thanks for the great updates, filly!
AS ALWAYS you are a star! Restaurant confirms they are linked to El Alquerque, so am heading there. Its been quite a day.., hot and humid and astounded by how empty villages can be so very near Burgos…Two other places if they are full.
El Alquerque. Little pension type place. 620 23 25 32 (does WhatsApp)
Hotel rivera de Duero 975 35 00 59
Good luck!
As early as my 2014 Levante, I found that restaurants in the Castilla/León/La Mancha area had weekend prices for their menús del día. I think it is becoming more prevalent. I’ll bet their week-day menú is half that. I’m not complaining, because they were working their tails off, but it’s a heads up for people who may not be sussing out the prime gourmet dining experience and who may be on a tighter budget.
That GR86 option from Retortillo de Soria to Tarancueña was quite confusing at times, and was one of the sections where we were reminded that the existence of a Wikiloc track does not mean it is a good track! Of course, I am glad that we did it, and the crumbling structures built into the hillside just out of Retortillo were interesting, but I'm not sure I'd recommend the diversion. The best part of the day was after Tarancueña.Taking the GR option is not for everyone.. hats off to Clare, Laurie and Maggie… and the others. It needs skills and perseverance.
I agree totally!That GR86 option from Retortillo de Soria to Tarancueña was quite confusing at times, and was one of the sections where we were reminded that the existence of a Wikiloc track does not mean it is a good track! Of course, I am glad that we did it, and the crumbling structures built into the hillside just out of Retortillo were interesting, but I'm not sure I'd recommend the diversion. The best part of the day was after Tarancueña.
Filly, you said this about the route from Retortillo to Tarancueña to Caracena. What did you mean?I did not take the Rio loop way but made my own Camino. Farmer Mañuel in his cherished jalopey, not only stopped but reversed to make sure I was OK.
Of course, I am glad that we did it, and the crumbling structures built into the hillside just out of Retortillo were interesting, but I'm not sure I'd recommend the diversion.
I agree. However, we should point out that we were in Caracena on a bustling Saturday night, when all 17 residents and their out-of-town friends were visiting. On a Monday or Tuesday, it might be a very different atmosphere!But it is one good way to lengthen what would otherwise be a pretty short day from Retortillo to Caracena — though given the delights of Caracena, that might not have been a bad thing.
Yes, but the sheep, the restaurant (filly could eat lunch AND dinner thereI agree. However, we should point out that we were in Caracena on a bustling Saturday night, when all 17 residents and their out-of-town friends were visiting. On a Monday or Tuesday, it might be a very different atmosphere!
I saw 11 birds of prey and MariaA informed me that I might be a suitable snack if no carrion was to hand!!!!Yes, but the sheep, the restaurant (filly could eat lunch AND dinner there), the church, the washing machine, and the castle are all there no matter what the day (except I think the restaurant closes on Wednesday?).
And btw, sorry if I didn’t mention it earlier, but for future Lana walkers, the absolutely best view of the Caracena castle is to go up there, and then to continue another few minutes. You can see its position over the gorge, with all the birds of prey flying around, and it is lovely.
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Do you mean in the village of Villálvaro or in Quintanarraya?ALSO Señorita informs me that there is simple accommodation available in the village
Villalvaro… as I am on my way to Q.Do you mean in the village of Villálvaro or in Quintanarraya?
Well, we may not hear from @filly if he is sleeping in Quintanarraya. @C clearly and her Movistar got occasional bursts of coverage. I had Vodafone and had to go to the far edge of town where the bodegas are to get some.I am on my way to Q.
Thanks. It wasn’t that I was getting lost… just that I wanted to stay on the Lana.Filly I have my tracks on wikiloc, same user name. I can’t remember this specific spot, but I do remember that I didn’t get lost!
From here on you are going to see a fair amount of convergence with Camino del Cid. But sometimes the Camino del Cid stays on the road and the Ruta de la Lana takes you off into the fields on ag tracks, which is always nicer.
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