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- September 2024
I start my camino Frances on september 3rd from SJPDP. I am planning to stop at Orisson. Do i need to make a reservation ? If so, how do i do that?
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I just sent the email .. thank ! GeneYes, you need to book.
The email is refuge.orisson@wanadoo.fr. I think they will send you a link for payment.
I am booked all the way to Pamplona. The only missing piece is Orisson.You absolutely do need a reservation, and hopefully it's not already fully booked, as the first week of September is one of the most popular times to start from SJPdP.
If you can't get a reservation at Orisson you can try Borda which is about 1 km up the road from Orisson.
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If they are both full, and you want to split the Pyrenees stage you can book two nights in SJPdP use the Mountain Shuttle from Express Bourricot.
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Passengers transport - Express Bourricot
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I also recommend that you book your accommodations up to or through Pamplona.
Looking at doing just that but reviews for the municipal at valcarlos seem bad, it's run down and dirty. Did you find this, and how long ago were you there? ThanksYou could also consider taking the variant to Valcarlos if the options mentioned above do not work out for you. I found it to be lovely with a lot of variety of terrain and there is a stop along the way to get a snack and rest. Also, the dinner at a restaurant in town was very good.
There are other accommodation options in Valcarlos:Looking at doing just that but reviews for the municipal at valcarlos seem bad, it's run down and dirty. Did you find this, and how long ago were you there? Thanks
I thought the muni was very nice and it had a clean, very large bathroom with 2 or 3 private showers. However I stayed in 2015 and again in 2017, so have no idea how well it is being kept up at this time. I thought there was also another place to stay in Valcarlos. You could check Gronze to verify...Looking at doing just that but reviews for the municipal at valcarlos seem bad, it's run down and dirty. Did you find this, and how long ago were you there? Thanks
By the way.. that is a brilliant back up plan if things dont go exactly to plan.You absolutely do need a reservation, and hopefully it's not already fully booked, as the first week of September is one of the most popular times to start from SJPdP.
If you can't get a reservation at Orisson you can try Borda which is about 1 km up the road from Orisson.
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Auberge Borda | Authentic Hostel Accommodations
Experience the charm and comfort of Auberge Borda, an authentic hostel located on the GR 65 trail in Saint-Michel, FR. Enjoy stunning views and a cozy atmosphere.www.aubergeborda.com
If they are both full, and you want to split the Pyrenees stage you can book two nights in SJPdP use the Mountain Shuttle from Express Bourricot.
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Passengers transport - Express Bourricot
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I also recommend that you book your accommodations up to or through Pamplona.
Wonder if there is a cancelation waiting list?You don’t book Orisson by email now - they started online booking last year.
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Refuge Orisson
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They’re full in September through to the 21st, which is normal and to be expected..
Wonder if there is a cancelation waiting list?
good luck, probably sold out for that date.I start my camino Frances on september 3rd from SJPDP. I am planning to stop at Orisson. Do i need to make a reservation ? If so, how do i do that?
Its day of and depending on when you've started from SJPDP you could be waiting around a while. When I booked Orisson with my daughter and friend, my friend canceled after the booking was made and and Orisson does not do refunds. When I got to Orisson after a late start in SJPDP, I let them know about my not needing the 3rd bed and they already had someone waiting and hoping for a cancellation. So I lucked out and didn't loose any money and some lucky pilgrim got a bed.Wonder if there is a cancelation waiting list?
Reservations are needed for the Mountain Shuttle, though a single person might get lucky and be able to squeeze in.You should check with the mountain shuttle on whether or not you need reservations.
May be too late. Try Auberge Borda which is only about a km or two farther. It books quickly also. As suggested also, taxi back to SJPP.I start my camino Frances on september 3rd from SJPDP. I am planning to stop at Orisson. Do i need to make a reservation ? If so, how do i do that?
You can email them and ask ..Wonder if there is a cancelation waiting list?
I think Borda is better than Orisson - I heard glowing reviews about it. At Orisson the people working were not super friendly when I passed through - Borda is a small intimate albergue and not too much further than Orisson.Wonder if there is a cancelation waiting list?
May be too late. Try Auberge Borda which is only about a km or two farther. It books quickly also. As suggested also, taxi back to SJPP.
Unfortunately, Borda is also fully booked.I think Borda is better than Orisson - I heard glowing reviews about it. At Orisson the people working were not super friendly when I passed through - Borda is a small intimate albergue and not too much further than Orisson.
Auberge Borda is also fully booked for the whole month of September.
I think Borda is better than Orisson - I heard glowing reviews about it. At Orisson the people working were not super friendly when I passed through - Borda is a small intimate albergue and not too much further than Orisson.
I believe OP already stated tgat other accomodations are secured through Pamplona so the only issue remains is Dat 1 Stage.In that period I would not relay on a waitinglist. It is peakseason, 400 pilgrims per day are looking for a bed and there are not much alternatives in the 'bottleneck' between SJPdP and Pamplona. I would make reservations in advance to be sure of a bed!
I start my camino Frances on september 3rd from SJPDP. I am planning to stop at Orisson. Do i need to make a reservation ? If so, how do i do that?
I also start on the 3rd! See you there! I did book a spot at Borda a while back...I start my camino Frances on september 3rd from SJPDP. I am planning to stop at Orisson. Do i need to make a reservation ? If so, how do i do that?
Make sure to book with Express Bourricot in advance.I booked another night in SJPDP.. I will use the transportation service to take me back to my hotel and then back Orisson the next day to finish the hike. Not my first choice but seems like the smart choice.
is there a link to Express Bourricot ?Make sure to book with Express Bourricot in advance.
It wouldn't be my first choice either, but I that's what I did last year when I walked with a group of newbies who didn't want to sleep in dorms and wanted to split the stage. There was the advantage of splitting the route more evenly than if you stop at Orisson or Borda, so your walk the next day is a little shorter. You should be able to time it to have a relaxing lunch at Orisson and enjoy the view from their terrace before continuing on to the Virgin, which is about 4 km past Orisson.
I took this screenshot from mapy.cz which tends to overestimate walking time in my experience.
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Borda is absolutely wonderful!I think Borda is better than Orisson - I heard glowing reviews about it. At Orisson the people working were not super friendly when I passed through - Borda is a small intimate albergue and not too much further than Orisson.
Yes, in my post #3.is there a link to Express Bourricot ?
got it .. thank you.. I emailed them.. I am awaiting their reply.Yes, in my post #3.
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Passengers transport - Express Bourricot
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@trecile - we are leaving Sep 7 from SJPP. We booked Borda and Roncesvalles a few months ago and were hoping not to book anything else in advance, but now I'm wondering whether that is unwise based on comments from you and others. We are slow walkers and might not walk from Roncesvalles to Zubiri in a day. We might do something like Bizkaretta or Lintzoain, then Larrasoana, then Pamplona - but were hoping to decide based on how we feel at the time. Do you think we need to book in advance if staying off-stage? (We are flexible on the type of accommodation - we'll likely stay in municipal albergues when the locations correspond with our stopping points and will go with what we can find otherwise.)You absolutely do need a reservation, and hopefully it's not already fully booked, as the first week of September is one of the most popular times to start from SJPdP.
If you can't get a reservation at Orisson you can try Borda which is about 1 km up the road from Orisson.
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Auberge Borda | Authentic Hostel Accommodations
Experience the charm and comfort of Auberge Borda, an authentic hostel located on the GR 65 trail in Saint-Michel, FR. Enjoy stunning views and a cozy atmosphere.www.aubergeborda.com
If they are both full, and you want to split the Pyrenees stage you can book two nights in SJPdP use the Mountain Shuttle from Express Bourricot.
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Passengers transport - Express Bourricot
www.expressbourricot.com
I also recommend that you book your accommodations up to or through Pamplona.
I started booking in March 23 for my first week on the Camino starting on 1 September. This forum was a wonderful source of information. I planned a slow week in order to find my pace and gradually settle in to walking daily. Borda and Orisson were full so I booked accommodation at Honto to take five kilometres off the first day. Second night was at Roncevalles, then Lintzoain, Larrasoana, Zabaldika before Pamplona. I am a slow walker. I enjoyed taking in the environment and meeting the variety of people walking the Way. I think this pace also contributed to me never getting blisters.@trecile - we are leaving Sep 7 from SJPP. We booked Borda and Roncesvalles a few months ago and were hoping not to book anything else in advance, but now I'm wondering whether that is unwise based on comments from you and others. We are slow walkers and might not walk from Roncesvalles to Zubiri in a day. We might do something like Bizkaretta or Lintzoain, then Larrasoana, then Pamplona - but were hoping to decide based on how we feel at the time. Do you think we need to book in advance if staying off-stage? (We are flexible on the type of accommodation - we'll likely stay in municipal albergues when the locations correspond with our stopping points and will go with what we can find otherwise.)
I walked from SJPDP on 1st September 2016. There were way more pilgrims than beds - I'm sure its only gotten busier. At 10pm, pilgrims were still arriving at Roncesvalles, and being taxied to other places for the night.@trecile - we are leaving Sep 7 from SJPP. We booked Borda and Roncesvalles a few months ago and were hoping not to book anything else in advance, but now I'm wondering whether that is unwise based on comments from you and others. We are slow walkers and might not walk from Roncesvalles to Zubiri in a day. We might do something like Bizkaretta or Lintzoain, then Larrasoana, then Pamplona - but were hoping to decide based on how we feel at the time. Do you think we need to book in advance if staying off-stage? (We are flexible on the type of accommodation - we'll likely stay in municipal albergues when the locations correspond with our stopping points and will go with what we can find otherwise.)
Not at all. Valcarlos has nice services.Looking at doing just that but reviews for the municipal at valcarlos seem bad, it's run down and dirty. Did you find this, and how long ago were you there? Thanks
I agree. I would recommend getting phone/WhatsApp information from Express Bourricot so that you can let them know if you want to continue on to Croix Thibault after you reach the Virgin.Back to OP and his issue - roughly 3-4 months ago someone was asking the same question (as @MichelleElynHogan said its a popular one). It eventually went the same way (i.e book Express Bourricot and go back to SJPdP) and IIRC it was @t2andreo that suggested pushing all the way to Chrix Thibault on that 1st day. Taking it real slow (and nobody said one cannot still stop for lunch at Orisson - just be mindful of the schedule and do accordingly) you;ll attain the goal but then tomorrow morning its quite a short skip and hop to Roncesvalles instead of hard climb (somewhat again)
Something to consider
I expect that it is hard going working at Orisson - you have all these newbie pilgrims who have not learned the ropes yet and maybe having greater expectations than is realistic- so a lot for the Albergue at Orisson to manage.Msr. Jaques is OK, Mme Carole has her moments but spending pretty much a whole day there and looking at the scope of the whole operation I could see how one can get a tad 'snippy'. Too many different people pass by some with absolutely no comprehension of 'what's going on ' but (as also has been mentioned numerous times on numerous threads) - demands they are a-plenty.
I believe OP already stated tgat other accomodations are secured through Pamplona so the only issue remains is Dat 1 Stage.
Considering that both Borda and Orisson are full I would again strongly urge OP to
Secure accomodations in SJPdP AND make appropriate/applicable reservations with Express Bouricott or
Forget Napoleon Pass ang walk via Valcarlos. Considering the popular time of the year I wouldn't tarry too much to secure an accommodation that way either.
I stayed in the Val Carlos municipal in February this year, just two of us were there and it was clean and well equipped. Our problem was there was nowhere open for a meal and the shop was closed due to some problem. Thankfully we had some rations with us and the kitchen had a microwave. The walk from SJPP to Val Carlos and then to Roncevalles is beautiful even in the atrocious weather we had.Looking at doing just that but reviews for the municipal at valcarlos seem bad, it's run down and dirty. Did you find this, and how long ago were you there? Thanks
Not at all. Valcarlos has nice services.
I'll venture to suggest that it's hard going working in ANY albergue as I'm sure that being a newbie or not may have nothing to do with what kind of person the "pilgrim" is.I expect that it is hard going working at Orisson - you have all these newbie pilgrims who have not learned the ropes yet and maybe having greater expectations than is realistic- so a lot for the Albergue at Orisson to manage.
Thanks, I've booked through Pamplona now. Albergue San Nicolas in Larrosoana showed as full on booking.com and the other option reservable online was a lot more. However, I contacted Albergue San Nicolas by email and they still had spaces. I didn't realize that some hostels may not put their full inventory on booking.com. I will keep that in mind when checking availability in the future.September on the Frances in the stretch up to (but not necessarily including) Pamplona? There’s no such thing as ‘off stage’. Get it booked, it’ll be mental.
It is very common that albergues, hotels, pensiones, etc. don't put all their inventory on booking sites.I didn't realize that some hostels may not put their full inventory on booking.com
Thank you tincatinker, was wondering how bad down the scale it was. Yes a bit of upkeep isn't a problem for me, but a big swamp toilet and showers that don't work isValcarlos. Run down and dirty. Run down and dirty? What’s that got to do with anything? I got the impression you were looking for a bed for the night. The Albergue has comfortable beds, adequate hygiene facilities, and, last time I was there ( autumn 2023) a kettle and a microwave cooker thing. If it’s not as clean as it could be that’ll be because last night’s bunch of peregrinos thought it was perfectly acceptable to leave it in that state.
If you get to a municipal/parroquial albergue and it needs cleaning: clean it. There’s always a brush and a mop and bucket to be found and, if not, just ask the Hospi how you can help.
There are very very few, if any, albergues that are down that far in the scale! Your words "a bit of upkeep" is appropriate description of what is sometimes lacking.was wondering how bad down the scale it was. es a bit of upkeep isn't a problem for me, but a big swamp toilet and showers that don't work is