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Big stupid question: what if, in the middle of a stage, I realize I can't really walk anymore? For whatever reason, fatigue, pain, etc. How others have treated this? Are there buses usually between towns? Can you call a taxi if it's really the only chance? Thanks for any insight :)
 
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Yes, sometimes there are buses and usually you can get a taxi.

But, most importantly, try to plan within your limits. Often there are places to stay in the middle of a guidebook "stage" and it's OK to stay wherever you like. Take plenty of breaks. Check your guidebook or app to see where there are cafes or shops - take a picnic if there is nothing en route.

Remember it's not a race. Go at your pace and you shouldn't have too much to worry about.
 
Well I think you would need to be cognisant of the possibility of this happening in advance really, because sometimes it is not going to be possible to call a taxi or get a bus at all points along the CF. Sometimes you will have a several km walk to get to a point where you could be met by a taxi etc. If you are already tired then maybe don't try to make it to the next town/village, always walk within your limits.
 
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Drink lots of water and relax.
Water helps prevent painful tendinitis. One of the most important 'rules' of the Camino (and life) is to 'let it be'.

Start walking slowly and go very easy for the first week. Daily distances cited in the guidebooks are not sacred; do not attempt 40 km the first day! Consider the topography and the weather plus your health and pack weight as well as personal strength and ability to endure. On the Camino everyone moves as he wishes; only the last 100km MUST be walked in order to receive the treasured Compostela or pilgrim certificate in Santiago.


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Yes, sometimes there are buses and usually you can get a taxi.

But, most importantly, try to plan within your limits. Often there are places to stay in the middle of a guidebook "stage" and it's OK to stay wherever you like. Take plenty of breaks. Check your guidebook or app to see where there are cafes or shops - take a picnic if there is nothing en route.

Remember it's not a race. Go at your pace and you shouldn't have too much to worry about.
Oh absolutely...race is the last thought I have about this. I think I'm just rationally scared because I've never done it...but definitely the priority will be listening to my body. I was just curious about the "possibilities" around the stages
 
Allow yourself more days to complete the Camino than you think you'll need, and definitely more days than the guide books tell you. Keep these days in reserve for when you want to stop early or take a day off.

If you never use those reserve days you can use them to spend more time in Santiago, walk to Finisterre and/or Muxía or spend time somewhere else in Spain.
 
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Yes, I had a heat injury 2 summers ago on the Aragones route on a remote stage. We called a taxi, but had to wait for her to return from Pamplona where she was dropping people off at the airport.

I had the number in advance and also got it from the albergue where we were headed. You could also call 112 in an emergency. My husband wanted to call 112, but I knew that would be a big hassle involving an ambulance. Probably a mistake as that ended our Camino time for that year...

You will also see taxi numbers posted on trees and walls or take a photo of a number in the last bar you stopped. Be aware that local taxis also pick up school children in the afternoons and they may not always be able to come right away. You may have to wait.
 
I think I'm just rationally scared because I've never done it...
Well this is very normal and healthy really, because it will mean that you are less likely to go above your limits. But in reality everyone who has been in the same position as you will tell you that you will soon get in to your rhythm, and the path can help take your mind off of the worry.

As much as the Camino can be about finding yourself spiritually it is also just as important in allowing you to get to understand your physical body better, learning how to listen to the signs it sends you.

Let it teach you how to be kind to both your spirit and physical bodies with heartbeats and footsteps guiding the way. But, above all enjoy this amazingly beautiful path across this wonderful country because those who get to walk it are immensely privileged.

Buen camino
 
Sometimes you will see little stickers on lamp posts and other places, where taxi owners have left their phone number. Occasionally I take a photo of it if I think I may not make it to the next town, so I have a number to call.
 
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Oh absolutely...race is the last thought I have about this. I think I'm just rationally scared because I've never done it...but definitely the priority will be listening to my body. I was just curious about the "possibilities" around the stages
As you go along your Camino, you will see taxi phone numbers in various bars, albergues, traffic signs, etc. Note the numbers whether you need them or not; "just in case." A lot of them will also indicate numbers and services in the next stages. I have almost two dozens phone numbers from Orisson and Borda to San Paio and Lavacolla just before Santiago over the 2022 and 2023 when I did my pilgrimage because I know my physical limitations. I used one of them after my rebuilt right knee gave up coming down El Acebo towards Reigo de Ambros. Do not mind the many, many New York/Boston marathoners along The Way. Enjoy your Camino. Enjoy the Camino. Buen Camino pilgrim. Ultreia.
 
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Big stupid question: what if, in the middle of a stage, I realize I can't really walk anymore? For whatever reason, fatigue, pain, etc. How others have treated this? Are there buses usually between towns? Can you call a taxi if it's really the only chance? Thanks for any insight :)
A couple thoughts come to mind from your post: 1) as @trecile suggested, plan extra days into your Camino, and 2) listen to your body. Although I didn’t take any rest days on the CF, I should have. There is a fatigue factor to deal with and it builds across a month of walking. Plan rest into your Camino.

I would suggest to you that every day on the Camino presents challenges. Some are due to the terrain, others due to weather, and then certainly those presented by your own body both physically and psychologically. No day on the Camino is necessarily easy, but the challenges we face can make each one very rewarding in any number of ways.

Because of the infrastructure along the CF, you will find plenty of resources to assist you. If you tire, slow down or shorten your stage. Don’t feel at all uncomfortable about calling a taxi. Use a baggage transport company to move your pack to your next location as that will make the walking easier. If it’s particularly hot, start early, stop early. Hydrate well! Your fellow pilgrims and the Spanish people along The Way will be an important resource to you particularly at difficult times. And, if you have to abandon your Camino, so be it. You can always return to pick up where you left off. Buen Camino!
 
Trecile's advice about giving yourself more time than you think you will need is my #1 piece of advice for all first time pilgrims. Planning within your limits is good, but if you are just nervous about emergencies, you can take the AlertCops app on your phone. That will enable you to easily call for help in an emergency and they will know just where you are.
 
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Big stupid question: what if, in the middle of a stage, I realize I can't really walk anymore? For whatever reason, fatigue, pain, etc. How others have treated this? Are there buses usually between towns? Can you call a taxi if it's really the only chance? Thanks for any insight :)
I got sick half way through my Camino ( last two stages, Leon to Santiago)..Fever and diarrheal illness. I had prebooked so slept in and took a taxi to the next day’s lodging. After two days like this I was okay and walked the last 5 days. Average cost of taxi was 18 euros (worth it).
 
We were walking near the end of the Camino Primitivo when suddenly my very hardy peregrina’s leg “gave out. We had a taxi phone number but were in a cell phone dead zone. A fancy Mercedes approached so I waived it down. In my best bad Spanish I explained the problem to the driver. The formally dressed gentleman leaped out, opened the back door with a flourish and beckoned the peregrina to enter. He delivered her to the next town and never said a word. The Camino provides.
 
hi, some very good advice above. I did the Portugues and similar, taxi numbers in bars, on lampposts, at the hostels. Also google is quite good at finding public transport options.

Another tip for if you feel you can't take one more step: eat and drink something (that's why you have that bag of gummybears or other snack stashed away somewhere in your pack). Wait. 9 times out of 10, you're just hangry, and you need to fuel. It's amazing what a handfull of gummybears or m&ms can do for morale.

wishing you well.
 
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I walked in '21 from SJPdP during the Covid crisis. I gave myself an extra week for rest days and illness. I should have used a couple of rest days after Sahagun just to give my feet and shins a break but I did not.

As others have said, if you can, pad your Camino with a few extra days to allow yourself the time for a break if you need it. During the day, while walking, there is nothing nicer than just sitting down at the side of the path for a few minutes, drinking some water eating a piece of fruit, and watching everyone else walk by.

Buen Camino!
 
Big stupid question: what if, in the middle of a stage, I realize I can't really walk anymore? For whatever reason, fatigue, pain, etc. How others have treated this? Are there buses usually between towns? Can you call a taxi if it's really the only chance? Thanks for any insight :)
Never underestimate the rejuvenating powers of a real iced Coca Cola (yes, I was rewarded with a COKE machine in the middle of nowhere when I'd about given up....) and/or an orange juice. Nothing tastes better when you are exhausted and "all in". A brief rest, and you may be able to continue to your destination, or at least to a place you can pick up a ride.
 
Here is a practical tip. Assuming you are walking the Camino Francés, not in mid-winter, there will be plenty of other pilgrims walking. Most of them start out reasonably early in the morning. However, if you delay until at noon, on one of the more "remote" stages, you will be behind the vast majority of people. So, don't do that. You might feel more secure knowing that there are many other walkers coming along soon if you are in trouble. In other words, start walking at the same time others are starting, so you are not the last pilgrim on the trail that day!
 
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Big stupid question: what if, in the middle of a stage, I realize I can't really walk anymore? For whatever reason, fatigue, pain, etc. How others have treated this? Are there buses usually between towns? Can you call a taxi if it's really the only chance? Thanks for any insight :)
No shame in taking a bus or taxi!
 
Confidence in what you can and can't do, comes from doing the exact thing that you are worried about. I do not know when your pilgrimage will take place, but if you have time pursue walking with your backpack on, carrying same approximate weighted load.

Confidence Building and Fitness

Start with small distance goals. As you reach that goal of a set distance and are feeling good about that distance, then you can increase that distance a bit more. Shoot for one-week targets, those targets can be any incremental distance from 1/2 Km to 5 Km. As your feet, ankles, leg muscles, back, and cardiovascular system adapt to one distance and you feel reasonably good, either go a little faster over that same distance, or keep the same pace but add more distance. Do this in a goal you can reasonabley reach in one week's time..

Now, focus on getting muscles and cardio used to longer uphill stretches. NO HILLS?? No problem. Use a treadmill set to about a 6% incline. You will set the walking speed to as low as needed to slog along with your backpack for 20 minutes. Take a 5 minute break to rehydrate, then do 20 more. Slow the walking speed if you need to, but this is enough. As you get fitter, you increase the incline a bit more NOT the speed. When your treadmill hits a 14% incline and you can maintain the 2 x 20 minute walks, you THEN increase speed a bit and go from 20 to 25 minutes.

The eventual goal would be to continuously walk at a 12 to 14% incline for 1 hour without being exhausted. Continuous sip of water as you walk on the treadmill.

Distance Walking Technique -- Slow is Smooth and Smooth is Fast.

At the beginning of a day's walk - and after nice, resting breaks -- your body will naturally feel good and your instinct is to walk faster because you feel good. DON'T. Keep your pace at a speed where you can maintain for a longer walking period of time. That means start out and maintaing a much slower pace than you feel like you can do.,

Basing your walking pace/speed based on how you 'feel' or by trying to keep pace with other people that are faster walkers, shorly leave you gasping for air.

Resting Breaks

Do you know that there is a name for your stated fear? And that YOUR concern is shared by all professional and amateur athletes, backpackers, climbers, marathon runners, etc.? In other words, you are NOT alone in your concern.

In America, we call this phenomenon 'crumping' -- it is a point where your body has hit a Wall of exhaustion so hard that the only way to recover is to stop and rest for the night. Your store's of muscle glycogen and sugar conversion are depleted to the point that your Kreb's Cycle has two, flat tires.

So, a hard rule to walk longer is to not overexert yourself while walking. If you go into an energy debt repeatedly, your day will end far sooner than it needs to. Always pay attention to how you feel. Plan your breaks at intervals where you are not forced to take a break.

At my top fitness level as a backpacker, I liked to pace myself to walk for 55 minutes at a stretch. At 55 minutes, regardless of HOW I felt, I would stop for 5 minutes for a short break. After four of those stretches and breaks I would stop for a meal and rest for 30 to 40 minutes.

Then wash, rinse, and repeat up to three times. How far I made it on the trail or on a Camino route was incidental. Of course on Camino, if I feel like stopping for the day early because I want to stay the night at a particular village, explore some wonderful sights, or just because I want to I have that choice.

When backpacking on the trail in wilderness, my destination for the night is wherever I'm done for the day. My 'House' is already on my back. :)

Energy Maintenance

Eat the equivalent of 1/4 of a Snickers bar (easy to carry, or something similar) and a small amount of cheese, like a string cheese about every 20 minutes with sips of water. A SMALL amount. It takes the body about 20 minutes to replenish what your muscles expend, so small niblets every 20 minutes or thereabouts, will help reduce fatigue.

Water and Hydration

I am in favor of water and hydration. People use bottles, water reservoir, hybrid solutions.... none of it matteres if you do not stay hydrated. If you are seating and your pee has a distinct yellow color, instead of a light straw color or clear, you probably aren't drinking enough. Especially when sweating.

There is a lot more information to guage the amount of intake for water, but thirst is when your hydration level guage is getting really low.

I am not a fan of additional electrolytes and such, unless there is extreme activity and the sweat is literally pouring off the body. Meals and snacks are frequently more than sufficient to provide the needed electrolytes when walking. As a combat medic in Vietnam where humidity and heat and slogging 90 pound rucksacks was part of the job description for our Infantry and Marines, extra electrolytes were required.

For Camino, extra electrolytes MIGHT be an individual thing to assess a need for. As a routine thing for everyone as the norm, that, in my view, is a bad practice and does have potentially hazardous effects when adopted as a routine.

Miscellaneous, Just in Case

There are posters for the telephone numbers of taxi companies stapled in surprising places all along the Camino: fence posts, utility poles, other signs, etc. Taxi numbers will usually be posted in the bars and tiendas and mercados when you stop at for refreshment.

Make it a habit to snap a quick shot of these as you walk during the day just in case. Don't ask me how I know to do this :)
 
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From my experience, the szenario where you find yourself in a situation where you can not walk one more step from one second to the next is unlikely. With the exception of an accident ofc, but then, there is always a number to call and its 112.
More likely, you will gradually start getting more fatigued or start hurting more and more. Sometimes this can be made better by a break or food or some "field repair". Sometimes not. But most likely it will not come so fast that - on the camino frances - you won't be able to make it to the next village. Then there will be one option or another to get a bed, a taxi or some attention from a medical professional.
 
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Big stupid question: what if, in the middle of a stage, I realize I can't really walk anymore? For whatever reason, fatigue, pain, etc. How others have treated this? Are there buses usually between towns? Can you call a taxi if it's really the only chance? Thanks for any insight :)
Taxis are great
 
Just as others said, start early(6.00-8.00)while it's cool. Be at your destination at 12.00 or 1.00pm. Because then (in heat) it gets much much harder to walk. Do what you can (even if its 10-20km) instead of dropping out because of blisters, injury or frustration.
If you could need bus/taxi look up the stage before, to see if bus/taxi access would be possible. On some places there is no bus and even taxi is limited or impossible.
Taxi often costs 20-35€, while bus 2-3€.
You can find busses on google maps, switch on button public transport and zoom in pretty deep so you will see if/where there are bus stops. Make sure you are at the right place as there are not always bus stop signs. And you have to signal the driver, otherwise they may pass you.
In Spain there is usually only 1 buscompany running busses per REGION. So if you are leaving/entering a region you might need a second bus.
In general you can say if there are villages you should be able to have access to at least taxi. Although it could take quite a while (and might be expensive) until a taxi will arrive there.
To prepare your stages. If you like to do a certain distance you better look up before at which places you could get a bus/taxi and walk the first part while it's still cooler.
Enjoy your camino. Buen Camino
 

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