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ETIAS will not be operational until 2025

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I came across this in my morning reading. It has general import to all traveling to any EU / Schengen country in future.


Hope this helps,

Tom
 
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As a regular traveller between the UK and the Schengen this is good news but bad news for the multiple stamps in my passport.!!
 
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Thanks t.
 
I came across this in my morning reading. It has general import to all traveling to any EU / Schengen country in future.


Hope this helps,

Tom
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The original source looked offiical to me.
From https://www.schengenvisainfo.com/about-us/: "We are an independent source of information and are not affiliated with the EU or any official agency."

Any official EU website about ETIAS and the EES has a web address that ends in .europa.eu. Not in .com.

There are a number of dubious websites about ETIAS, and the EU warns about them on https://travel-europe.europa.eu/etias/report-abuse_en: "Some commercial intermediaries [...] may engage in abusive practices. Such abuse may take different forms, including: [...]"

In their defense, Schengenvisainfo.com is not one of these dubious or fraudulent websites. One can call Schengenvisainfo.com a news aggregator, or, if one is so inclined, a clickbait site. They don't generate news, they recycle news. Like this item of "no news".

If there are any news about ETIAS that are worth sharing it will be on https://travel-europe.europa.eu/etias/news-corner_en
 
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On another discussion website, people point out that there had been previous announcements about a future launch of ETIAS and subsequent announcements about delays and that previously there was “a whole lot of excitement and confusion for no reason at all“.

That there had been “many posts pointing out that it was much ado about nothing”.

And that “it's cyclical and the same articles will come around again in another six months or a year with the same sensational gotcha headlines all intended to manipulate one's emotions to rage or panic click on the article, recreating the excitement and confusion all over again.”

And that “the best advice is to keep track of the official EU websites --
https://travel-europe.europa.eu/index_en
https://travel-europe.europa.eu/etias_en
 
Doesn't really surprise me.
 
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Just a reminder that this is the official EU site:

The only reliable source of information about this is the official one. schengenvisainfo.com is NOT official, to put it mildly.

There is regular alarm about this, every time they publish another click-bait article. But we can chill. It's coming, but not any time soon.
 
It's coming, but not any time soon.
One thing that seems likely, though not certain, from documentation I've read on the subject is that official residents of Schengen countries being exempted from ETIAS will therefore be generally exempt from the 90/180 days rules from not being subjected to ETIAS.

Which would mean that those of us resident in an EU country, including non-Schengen, or Schengen but non-EU, or weird places like Andorra, would revert to the old International Law 180 days rule. Which was very generous, because all you needed was spend a full 24H (in practice 48H) elsewhere to recover it.

And with the EU principles of freedom of movement within the Union ? Still, if you are resident in any EU country you must in principle be there more than 6 months a year ...

No doubt such legislative loopholes will be tied up in time -- but it does seem that the non-subjection of EU residents to ETIAS must free us from 90/180 given that this will be governed by ETIAS.
 
One thing that seems likely, though not certain, from documentation I've read on the subject is that official residents of Schengen countries being exempted from ETIAS will therefore be generally exempt from the 90/180 days rules from not being subjected to ETIAS.

Which would mean that those of us resident in an EU country, including non-Schengen, or Schengen but non-EU, or weird places like Andorra, would revert to the old International Law 180 days rule. Which was very generous, because all you needed was spend a full 24H (in practice 48H) elsewhere to recover it.

And with the EU principles of freedom of movement within the Union ? Still, if you are resident in any EU country you must in principle be there more than 6 months a year ...

No doubt such legislative loopholes will be tied up in time -- but it does seem that the non-subjection of EU residents to ETIAS must free us from 90/180 given that this will be governed by ETIAS.
Oh dear. Now have we started conjecture that may soon become a rumour that then spreads and mutates until we read about it on Facebook?
 
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The topic of ETIAS comes up periodically, often because of new "reports" from unofficial sites, posts on FB etc.

There are several links to official sources in this thread, but I'll repeat two of them here

News and updates:


The official ETIAS site:

 
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