Glenn Rowe
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- Time of past OR future Camino
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Dang, J P, that's an awfully weighty exposition for a sunny Saturday morning. (Anybody got an aspirin?)
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I think that's only true to a limited extent -- but it's a very interesting point.
The blind spot of most philosophers in this regard -- compared to for example linguists, or grammarians, clinical psychologists, literature guys, spiritual leaders, etc -- is precisely that they are rationalists ; which subsumes the assumption that thought, and therefore only performative language, constitutes the entirety of what could be termed as "understanding". It is an assumption that only the Nominalist, or positive-materialist, position can be considered as valid.
But this is not only to dismiss Perception itself, by attempting to diminish it into a mere "function" of rational cognition, in direct contradiction to its primary function as the source of all direct learning -- but it also diminishes the actual scope and versatility of language itself, which is no means limited by the assumptions belonging to any particular schools of philosophical thought.
If anything, I'd suggest the diametric opposite -- the openness of your world defines the doorways into your language.
The one thing that caught me off guard (didn't upset me, though) was when people would say "Have fun!" Now that I'm back, people will say "Did you have fun?" I wouldn't call the pilgrimage fun, necessarily - physically challenging, yes (limping into allergies at the end of the day)- amazing and beautiful and, for me, transformative! But unless a person has experienced something like this, I think people just find it difficult to understand. Therefore, people use words that they can better understand, even if they use words I might not necessarily use. Interesting topic!
This is so beautiful @TunaBlue5150. Gibby knew what I was trying to say all alongKahlil Gibran
You talk when you cease to be at peace with your thoughts;
And when you can no longer dwell in the solitude of your heart you live in your lips, and sound is a diversion and a pastime.
And in much of your talking, thinking is half murdered.
For thought is a bird of space, that in a cage of words may indeed unfold its wings but cannot fly.
There are those among you who seek the talkative through fear of being alone.
The silence of aloneness reveals to their eyes their naked selves and they would escape.
And there are those who talk, and without knowledge or forethought reveal a truth which they themselves do not understand.
And there are those who have the truth within them, but they tell it not in words.
In the bosom of such as these the spirit dwells in rhythmic silence.
When you meet your friend on the roadside or in the market place, let the spirit in you move your lips and direct your tongue.
Let the voice within your voice speak to the ear of his ear;
For his soul will keep the truth of your heart as the taste of the wine is remembered
When the colour is forgotten and the vessel is no more.
WOW!
There sure were a lot of easily annoyed people posting on this thread.
Have you noticed how their repetition when spoken robs them of all meaning?
Anyway, I was surprised to read some forum members reacting to the use of the word 'hike' in a thread yesterday? Personally, it drove me mad last year when people kept saying to me, 'Enjoy your holiday!'. Holiday? That struck me as a misapprehension about the camino which detracted from what I was going to put into the experience and what I hoped to get out of it. A lot of people say 'walk' rather than 'hike', and that too could imply something easygoing, and relative though these words are, as are our experiences, I don't consider any camino leading to SdC easy.
Does 'hike' bother you? What other words - camino-forum-related - bug you and why??
This OP needn't open up the can of worms that is pilgrim vs tourist, but if it does, we're ready for another joust, right?
Phil
In general I object to “bucket-list”. But when I hear the two words “Camino + bucket-list” together I roll my eyes. The Camino is definitely not just another thing to tick off.
what d
What does "POV" stand for?
While I understand comments about chatter and value silence, I also greatly value interactions with those I meet on the Camino.
I skimmed through all 212 messages of this thread to refresh my memory about what this was all about. As usual for long threads, it wanders into different directions. The main content, however, is that people from various corners of the world talk about language and what a variety of words - mainly words of the English language - mean to them or how they perceive them and why.This thread seems awfully judgmental. To disparage simple comments of appreciation is absurd. I am on the Camino right now. Hoping I stay out of your way. God forbid I say, “Beautiful sunset.”
Yeah but when people use "hike"as a verb!
ddraver said:Yeah but when people use "hike"as a verb!
OED --
hike, v. colloq. orig. dial. and U.S.
1.1 intr. a.1.a To walk or march vigorously or laboriously. b.1.b To walk for pleasure; to go for a long walk, or walking tour, spec. in the country. Also, to travel by any means.
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There's your problem!
OED --
hike, v. colloq. orig. dial. and U.S.
1.1 intr. a.1.a To walk or march vigorously or laboriously. b.1.b To walk for pleasure; to go for a long walk, or walking tour, spec. in the country. Also, to travel by any means.
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There's your problem!
(love & hugs)
The true Brit "goes on a hike"
POV means "point of view." OTOH is "on the other hand."
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