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Np Peter it will probably be useful to other route planners and the way the forum points to similar posts others might findThanks, but unfortunately this is only good for the mainstream camino's in Spain and a handful of trails in Italy as far as I can see.
I'm coming from a little further afield and whilst walking the Camino, certainly not on the ones that they list.
Thanks anyway though!
Hi, @Peterexpatkiwi,I thought wikiloc would be the go but it's bloody useless. I've just tried it for a section here in Germany, and rather than take me four kilometers down the road on the Jakobsweg, it's taken me on a 27 km route around town to get to the same point. It clearly is not programmed with the Jakobsweg!
Thanks, I'll take a look at that.
These tracks look like “real” jakobsweg tracks. I just don’t know anything about the stages and can’t fiddle with the map to see what else is there.Thanks.
Ok, Hof - Nürnberg for example.
If I start at the northern end of the train station I'm practically on the Jakobsweg. But rather than take me across the tracks and out the far side on the Jakobsweg it chooses some other trail, circling completely around Hof. It's probably a lovely trail and the distance is much the same but whenever possible I wish to stay on the Camino.
I just tried to go from that northern point (CNR of Wilhelm Str / Marienstraße) to a tiny village called Osseck. (3km). It came up with "we couldn't find a trail in this place, please try again in a different location". Yet the camino goes directly from one point to the other.
If I try from the same point to Helmbrechts it takes me on a 27 km journey, rather than 21km on the Camino.
Maybe I haven’t explained myself clearly. When you use wikiloc, you have to search for and choose a track to follow. You can see where the track goes when you bring it up on your phone or computer. You must have chosen a track that walked a circle around Hof and not a Jakobsweg track.But rather than take me across the tracks and out the far side on the Jakobsweg it chooses some other trail, circling completely around Hof.
Thanks. Yes I have signed up as a premium member (14-day free trial), and was trying method two ie between the two points. Those are the examples I've given above - 'Trail doesn't exist'.These tracks look like “real” jakobsweg tracks. I just don’t know anything about the stages and can’t fiddle with the map to see what else is there.
95 - BY - Mittelfränkischer Jakobsweg von Nürnberg nach Rothenburg o.d.T.
95 - BY - Mittelfränkischer Jakobsweg von Nürnberg nach Rothenburg o.d.T. Hiking trail in Gostenhof, Bayern (Deutschland). Download its GPS track and follow the route on a map. Record your own itinerary from the Wikiloc app, upload the trail and share it with the community.www.wikiloc.com
1709 Camino de Santiago. Jakobsweg. Tramo Nuremberg - Konstanz - Marstetten
1709 Camino de Santiago. Jakobsweg. Tramo Nuremberg - Konstanz - Marstetten Hiking trail in Schwabach, Bayern (Deutschland). Download its GPS track and follow the itinerary on a map. Camino realizado entre los días 31-8 y 15-9-2017, 100 % andando, con el siguiente detalle: Dia 31-8.- Schwabach...www.wikiloc.com
There are two ways to search for tracks on wikiloc. One is by using words to search for the tracks, based on your assumptions of starting and ending points, I just searched for nuremberg jakobsweg and found this.
The other way is to use the map. You can put a circle on two different points on their map and find all the trails that are recorded that pass through those two spots. That is a really terrific search tool if you are going to go off-camino (I used it many times this past spring to detour from the Invierno or the Serrana to Roman ruins, waterfalls, monasteries). But this is a feature only available if you are a premium user.
Sadly not, different route.Once you decide which app you want to use, I would forget about all the others and concentrate on it. I know there are many options, but I long ago settled on wikiloc and have gotten pretty proficient. But there is a learning curve.
I found this one using the map, is it not going to the right place?
fränkischer Jakobsweg Hof bis Münchberg
fränkischer Jakobsweg Hof bis Münchberg Hiking trail in Neuhof, Bayern (Deutschland). Download its GPS track and follow the route on a map. Record your own itinerary from the Wikiloc app, upload the trail and share it with the community.www.wikiloc.com
I'll go back and edit this for future readers, basically I've found a couple however they don't follow what I understand (from a map) to be the Camino. Nor might I add mapy's tracks, which until now I have found ( over 350km) to be almost 100% accurate (allowing for paths to have occasionally been moved).I've also tried the first methodology and while they're occasionally there when somebody has uploaded them, for a lot of my route they do not exist unfortunately.
I agree with everything you say, with the one caveat that if @Peterexpatkiwi is hoping to use the app for caminos in Spain, Komoot might not be helpful. It may well be, I just don’t know. But something to find out before investing a lot of time in any app.There are so many mapping and navigation apps, the best one is often the one you're most familiar with. However it could be that Komoot would work for you. It's a German app, started I think as a bike routing app but includes hiking, running and mountaineering options. You will probably need to pay for premium to get the options required. I just tried some of the places you mentioned and hey presto it gave me a sensible looking route. There is also a "daily stages" option and a hiking map background if you pay the premium rate. Happy to answer questions if you're not convinced. Richard
You can add waypoints along the map to help you judge distance too in mapy.cz it is also really easy to modify the route which I have found to not be the case with so many other mapping tools.Thanks. Yes I have signed up as a premium member (14-day free trial), and was trying method two ie between the two points. Those are the examples I've given above - 'Trail doesn't exist'.
I've also tried the first methodology and while they're occasionally there when somebody has uploaded them, for a lot of my route they either do not appear to follow the same route that I wish to follow (which my map and mapy.cz both show) or they do not exist.
Interestingly I've just tried logging in on my laptop to mapy.cz, it transpires that I can move along the trail utilizing my cursor and it gives me a running distance total - not something I can do on my phone. Plus an altitude profile option which is useful.
I normally use my laptop just for work etc, on the assumption that I am not going to have it with me on Camino!
Clearly I should have tried this sooner, because looking at it, it may well do pretty much everything I wish to achieve.
Still, I'm happy to consider other planning options- if somebody has a good suggestion, fire away!
Thanks. Yes I have signed up as a premium member (14-day free trial), and was trying method two ie between the two points. Those are the examples I've given above - 'Trail doesn't exist'.
I've also tried the first methodology and while they're occasionally there when somebody has uploaded them, for a lot of my route they either do not appear to follow the same route that I wish to follow (which my map and mapy.cz both show) or they do not exist.
Interestingly I've just tried logging in on my laptop to mapy.cz, it transpires that I can move along the trail utilizing my cursor and it gives me a running distance total - not something I can do on my phone. Plus an altitude profile option which is useful.
I normally use my laptop just for work etc, on the assumption that I am not going to have it with me on Camino!
Clearly I should have tried this sooner, because looking at it, it may well do pretty much everything I wish to achieve.
Still, I'm happy to consider other planning options- if somebody has a good suggestion, fire
I don't think so.am I missing something?
There are no wrong answers here - it's very much a matter of preference.Once you decide which app you want to use, I would forget about all the others and concentrate on it
Definitely my experience.Wikiloc is by far the best go-to source for camino tracks in Spain, but using it is more time consuming than just downloading one app and following the one option it gives you
You’re right that I should have said that FOR ME the undoubtably best solution has been to pick one app, learn it well, and forget about the rest. Other people have different skills, interests, and patience and can easily manage several.I don't agree with picking one app and then forgetting about all the rest.
I get your point, and have limited my own experimentation to the apps that I've mentioned. On getting started, though, one needs to have an idea of the strengths/features of different programs relative to what you want to do, in order to choose one (or more) to get started. When you get any new tool, you need to ask some questions to understand what the reasonable options are.I also think that for most of us, learning one app fairly well before branching out to others is the way to go. Peter seems to be at the very initial stages of figuring this out, and at this point I think that flipping around from one program to another is likely to cause a lot of frustration.
you are funnyYes, that's mine, I created it yesterday once I discovered I could do a lot more on my laptop then was possible in the mobile app. That's why it has the same username.
But thank you very much for looking anyway!
you are funnyat the bottom of the route you find the creator and thats not your name there.[
That’s the title I selected as its only a draftf. I made it as a samplle to show you how it worksView attachment 171804???? Ok, told you I’m new to this- when I open it this is what I saw!
True to some extent in that komoot uses OSM for its mapping and OSM map quality varies across countries. However OSM in Europe is good, very good I'd say and caminos are certainly shown within the region. Perhaps the qualifier that it's a German app was irrelevant, it's an international company now.I agree with everything you say, with the one caveat that if @Peterexpatkiwi is hoping to use the app for caminos in Spain, Komoot might not be helpful. It may well be, I just don’t know. But something to find out before investing a lot of time in any app.
OsmAnd is a great mapping / navigation app though perhaps to some extent it's for the cognoscenti. As an offshore surveyor, navigator, with 40 years experience I found it too complex, with too many options. That is both it's strength and weakness; get your head around the system then it's a wonderful & useful app otherwise you'll be chasing your tail, but then perhaps I'm just 10 years behind the times.Hi Peter. Peg and I have been camping a few days and have had phone charging issues, now fixed. So just seen your request. If I understand things correctly you are looking for what you get with Mapy but on a phone. I believe OSMand will do the job for you.
I recently rewatched a video that seems to show how to use OSMand to do what you want. I think this is the one. My cellular data is expensive so I'm giving you this one without checking it out. I will do that when I get home. Anyway, it was one of the OSMand videos by Bart Eisenberg.
Creating and Using GPXs
YouTube video id: H5EEQYC0WLg
I agree. For Peter's use though it is probably not more complex than the alternatives he is testing and he can do what he wants with OSMand on a phone (if I understand his needs correctly).OsmAnd is a great mapping / navigation app though perhaps to some extent it's for the cognoscenti. As an offshore surveyor, navigator, with 40 years experience I found it too complex
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