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Not at all, Raggy. The (real) derelict house is (was) in Calle la Carrera. The house in the film with the garden/toilet is Calle el Sepulcro 21. Surely that is clear from my post #80? The house at Calle el Sepulcro was for sale in September 2012, when Streetview went by. The house at 6 or 8 Calle la Carrera was derelict at the same time.Are you saying that they filmed the scene in the derelict house with the view of the actual garden? It seems unlikely to me, but stranger things happen.
Not so much. Surely that is clear from my request for clarification.Surely that is clear from my post #80?
It was established at post #68 that the derelict house (the real Casa Santa Barbara) was in Calle la Carrera and that the house in the film was in Calle el Sepulcro. My post #80 was only referring to the house that we saw in the film in Calle el Sepulcro, which appeared to be single-storied in the only exterior shot of it in the film, and in the view posted on here from Streetview (post #37). I wondered how they managed to go upstairs in a single-storey house. Aniello mentioned that in august 2019 it [the house in Calle el Sepulcro] was still there with the interior as in the film. It was his mention of the interior "as in the film" (I don't know how he knew – perhaps he gained access to the interior) that prompted me to look around to the side of the house, in Calle los Fueros, and the back of the house in Calle San Andrés, where I saw the gate and the sloping brick wall that matched the view in the film when El Ramón shows Jack the "facilities". I thought it was interesting to know that the interior of the house was not a studio set.Not so much. Surely that is clear from my request for clarification.
Si bert.la casa è in vendita da molti anni.sono passato da torres del rio ben 9 cammini.nel 2019..sono entrato ed incredibilmente tutto rimasto come nel film..sia la.madonna..che l animale imbalsamato...che il tavolo..è stato come essermi proiettato nel film.It was established at post #68 that the derelict house (the real Casa Santa Barbara) was in Calle la Carrera and that the house in the film was in Calle el Sepulcro. My post #80 was only referring to the house that we saw in the film in Calle el Sepulcro, which appeared to be single-storied in the only exterior shot of it in the film, and in the view posted on here from Streetview (post #37). I wondered how they managed to go upstairs in a single-storey house. Aniello mentioned that in august 2019 it [the house in Calle el Sepulcro] was still there with the interior as in the film. It was his mention of the interior "as in the film" (I don't know how he knew – perhaps he gained access to the interior) that prompted me to look around to the side of the house, in Calle los Fueros, and the back of the house in Calle San Andrés, where I saw the gate and the sloping brick wall that matched the view in the film when El Ramón shows Jack the "facilities". I thought it was interesting to know that the interior of the house was not a studio set.
@Aniello, thank you so much for this information. Is this publicly available, i.e. is there a link to it? It is quite useful to have an Italian speaker for this topicQuesta è una testimonianza di pino toniolo che nel suo primo cammino aveva conosciuto ramon...tornando nel secondo cammino 1993 scopre la disgrazia di ramon...ora dobbiamo scoprire dove è sepolto
@Aniello, thank you so much for this information. Is this publicly available, i.e. is there a link to it? It is quite useful to have an Italian speaker for this topic. I google for information in various languages but not in Italian. I see one account of Pino Toniolo's 1993 pilgrimage here but Ramón Sostres is not mentioned. I'm trying to figure out when exactly Jack Hitt walked. He must have been one of the last people to meet Señor Ramón in his Torres del Rio home.
Mi ha mandato una.mail ieri con la sua testimonianza e la foto l hai anche tu publicata e l@Aniello, thank you so much for this information. Is this publicly available, i.e. is there a link to it? It is quite useful to have an Italian speaker for this topic. I google for information in various languages but not in Italian. I see one account of Pino Toniolo's 1993 pilgrimage here but Ramón Sostres is not mentioned. I'm trying to figure out when exactly Jack Hitt walked. He must have been one of the l ast people to meet Señor Ramón in his Torres del Rio home.
Let me translate this (and I think there is a typo, it's 1989 instead of 1998, right?). So, with the help of DeepL.com, I understand this:Pino toniolo in una mail ieri mi ha detto che nel 1993 al secondo suo cammino voleva salutare il sign ramon in quanto nel 1998 lo aveva conosciuto vedi foto postata da hathar nel 1993 ha incontrato un sign. Anziano che le ha detto che ramon sostres aveva avuto una paralisi ed era stato in seguito trasferito in uno ospizio a logrogno
Giusto 1989 in quella occasione conobbe il sign. Ramon sostres e fece la foto da te publicata..nel 1993 al suo secondo cammino ha scoperto parlando con un anziano di torres del rio che ramon aveva avuto un ictus e che si trovava a logrogno...Let me translate this (and I think there is a typo, it's 1989 instead of 1998, right?). So, with the help of DeepL.com, I understand this:
Pino Toniolo told me in an email yesterday that, on his second Camino in 1993, he wanted to say hello to Señor Ramón because in 1989 he had met him - see the photo posted by Kathar1na. In 1993, Pino Toniolo met an old man in Torres del Rio who told him that Ramón Sostres had a stroke and was later transferred to a hospice in Logroño.I see from Pino Toniolo's online report that he passed through Torres del Rio on 4 August 1993. The American author Jack Hitt, I think, walked a little earlier in the same year so it is entirely possible that he could still have met Ramón Sostres in Torres del Rio. Although a small doubt is now creeping up in my mind. Perhaps he just thought he had met him because he had read earlier vivid reports? And just seen the house? Oh, it's terrible to have such a sceptical nature as I have.
I checked Jack Hitt's book. According to which he started in June 1993 in SJPP and arrived in Santiago on the day before 25 July 1993. So he could have. Small doubts linger ...I see from Pino Toniolo's online report that he passed through Torres del Rio on 4 August 1993. The American author Jack Hitt, I think, walked a little earlier in the same year so it is entirely possible that he could still have met Ramón Sostres in Torres del Rio.
Bene..allora ora dobbiamo scoprire quando il sign ramon si è ammalato...in che mese...I checked Jack Hitt's book. According to which he started in June 1993 in SJPP and arrived in Santiago on the day before 25 July 1993. So he could have. Small doubts linger ....
Bert volevo mandartele in.privato ma non mi da l allegato..cmq alcuni scatti sulle scene..Si bert.la casa è in vendita da molti anni.sono passato da torres del rio ben 9 cammini.nel 2019..sono entrato ed incredibilmente tutto rimasto come nel film..sia la.madonna..che l animale imbalsamato...che il tavolo..è stato come essermi proiettato nel film.
Great photos, @Aniello. Thank you for sharing. So you went on Camino every year for ten years in a row, from 2009 to 2019? Great outfits that you are wearingcmq alcuni scatti sulle scene..
Find out in which month Señor Ramón got ill and left Torres del Rio in 1993 for good? Uff, I thought yesterday I am finished with researchingallora ora dobbiamo scoprire quando il sign ramon si è ammalato...in che mese...
Ciao kathar si ho iniziato con il cammino francese 2009 2010 2011 2013 2014 2015 nel 2016 la via delle plata. nel 2018 l ho fatto due volte il francese sia giugno che agosto..nel 2019 aprile cammino portoghese ad agosto cammino. Francese..sempre in mountain bike.Great photos, @Aniello. Thank you for sharing. So you went on Camino every year for ten years in a row, from 2009 to 2019? Great outfits that you are wearing.
This is marvellous, thank you so much and also thank you to Pino Toniolo! So this is the Famiglia Cristiana magazine from June 1989 with a photo of Ramón Sostres in it. He is standing in front of his house. I reproduce the photo below, together with a screenshot from Google Earth from 2012 to convince any potential doubters that it's really his house and his door[Translated] Pino Toniolo, a pilgrim who met Ramón in 1989, told me also that Señor Ramón Sostres was a special person who was good-natured and friendly with the pilgrims ... NOT AT ALL like what the film director shows in the movie ... I enclose you some material.
If Estevez was aware of Stanton's book, I feel more assured of my impression that he gave this scene the Psycho treatment. I thought it was a thought worth sharing. I respect that you disagree.Estevez paid homage to Hitchcock in The Way? It looks more like he pinched the idea from Stanton's book.
OK, I will go as far as to say that the upstairs scene is a nod to Hitchcock. But he didn't come up with the idea himself, he got it from the book.If Estevez was aware of Stanton's book, I feel more assured of my impression that he gave this scene the Psycho treatment. I thought it was a thought worth sharing. I respect that you disagree.
The full name of James Nesbitt's character in The Way is "Jack Emerson Stanton".
Well, Stanton could be derived from Estevez's older co-star in the movie Repo Man, Harry Dean Stanton. Emerson could come from the American author and philosopher Ralph Waldo Emerson, a walking companion of Henry David Thoreau. Emerson and Stanton are English names, not Irish.Any significance in the full names of the other pilgrims and of Daniel?
The part of Jack was originally written as an English person.Emerson and Stanton are English names, not Irish.
Kathar questo è materiale che mi ha inviato il segno Pino toniolo pellegrino che ha conosciuto ramon nel 1989 oltre ad avermi detto che il segno. Sostres Ramon Era Una persona speciale ed affabile con i pellegrini..nulla un Che VEDERE con Quello che ha descritto il regista nel film..ti allego del Materiale
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