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I’m not at all certain what the daily experience will be, which is the most encouraging aspect of this adventure. I’m am curious as to what the average daily expense most hikers engage? I’m thinking once or twice a week I might stop at a nicer hotel, but for the most part I’m looking to the hostels and meals at most cafes.
I'm one of those 'over planners'. I just love the planning process, though my plans tend to go out the window once I start! But planning is fun and gives me ideas.......
Thanks Chrissy, I've done some double checking since your comment, and downloaded the Wise Pilgrim app. It shows many Gites along the way with prices in the 14 to 20 euro range. It also shows they serve food however it's not clear from the app or the individual sites that I've since visited if that's included in that price. Somehow I doubt it! But several went on to talk about dinners in local restaurants around the 18 euro mark. So hopefully it's still possible to remain in the 50 - 60€ range.I spent a minimum of €50/day on the Le Puy, staying in gites with demi pension, and mostly self lunches/snacks on the go, but that was back in 2018. It's hard for me to believe that prices have stayed the same in the last five years though.
It shows many Gites along the way with prices in the 14 to 20 euro range. It also shows they serve food however it's not clear from the app or the individual sites that I've since visited if that's included in that price. Somehow I doubt it!
The pilgrim may bring with him no money at all, except perhaps to distribute it on the road. Those who sell their property before leaving must give every penny of it to the poor, for if they spend it on their own journey they are departing from the path of the Lord. (Matthew 19:21 ?)
In times past the faithful had but one heart and soul, and they held all property in common, owning nothing of their own; just so the pilgrim of today must hold everything in common and travel together with one heart and one soul. To do otherwise would be disgraceful and outrageous...
Thanks! I’m not looking for anything more than a place to lay my head at the end of each day. I may carry a sleeping bag with me and, as time or place dictate, I may sleep on the trail though buying a small tent is not currently “the plan.” As with most things.. I’ll deal with it as it comes up. I was hoping to stay at.. or under €30 a day.In 2015 and again in 2017 on the Frances, staying in 90% albergues at the time, I spent approximately €25-30 per day. I think those days are long gone.
Thanks. The cost isn’t a huge factor .. but planning on at least 2 to 3 months… a €100 a day seems tremendously extravagant and unnecessary… but.. that’s just me.I'm with @Tincatinker - Budget €100-120. If its winds up being less - be pleasantly surprised. Much better than budgeting say €30-40 and find yourself in a bind thus become sad\angry and "ruin" your own Camino.
And the best part of it is that if you do find yourself "waaaaay ahead" - splurge - stay in a much nicer place and get some awesome dinner!
Good luck and Buen Camino!
This is great advice for someone who can afford that budget. If someone can't afford €3,000-3,600 + airfare, I wouldn't want to send the message that a month long Camino is not an option for them.I'm with @Tincatinker - Budget €100-120. If its winds up being less - be pleasantly surprised. Much better than budgeting say €30-40 and find yourself in a bind thus become sad\angry and "ruin" your own Camino.
And the best part of it is that if you do find yourself "waaaaay ahead" - splurge - stay in a much nicer place and get some awesome dinner!
Good luck and Buen Camino!
IMHO to be fair it should be "for EACH breakfast" since we all know only too well that there is more to the walk then just a Dessayno Numero Uno! Some folks will easily have 3 (I've been guilty on a couple of occasions myself)Food is extra. So it might be for example 20€ for the bed, 15€ for dinner and 5€ for breakfast.
You definitely need to consider carrying a sleeping bag! Unless you don’t start until June, perhaps even then. Not everywhere will have blankets.Thanks! I’m not looking for anything more than a place to lay my head at the end of each day. I may carry a sleeping bag with me and, as time or place dictate, I may sleep on the trail though buying a small tent is not currently “the plan.” As with most things.. I’ll deal with it as it comes up. I was hoping to stay at.. or under €30 a day.
I agree, as a budget - well, for that I could stay in a hotel every night!Thanks. The cost isn’t a huge factor .. but planning on at least 2 to 3 months… a €100 a day seems tremendously extravagant and unnecessary… but.. that’s just me.. All I need is a reasonable.. bedbug free bed, a pillow, blanket and a place to shower. The more basic, for me, the more I feel I’ll get out of the days of just walking! Thanks again!
IMHO to be fair it should be "for EACH breakfast" since we all know only too well that there is more to the walk then just a Dessayno Numero Uno! Some folks will easily have 3 (I've been guilty on a couple of occasions myself)
I exclusively used the guidebook "The Lighthouse Guide to the Via Podiensis" by Angelynn Meya back in 2018; no Gronze no Apps. All the gites listed in the book seemed to come with demi pension, and bk of simple toast, jam and coffee. None were under €35.per person. Apparently now you are seeing cheaper options available if you only want a bed. When I walked was there was often no where else to get a hot meal or buy groceries. Incidentally, I loved the high quality dinners and thought them a good value.Thanks Chrissy, I've done some double checking since your comment, and downloaded the Wise Pilgrim app. It shows many Gites along the way with prices in the 14 to 20 euro range.
I was doing my math at the start of the thread and came to the sums of 35 a day for 2-3 months on the Frances ( from my experience) would be minimum 60 days to 90 days @ 35€ = 2100-3100 ishHmm. I've noticed a couple of "Wows" attached to my earlier post on a budget, on a long walk, of €100/day. Despite my reputation as a Sybarite, Gourmand and Lush I feel I should have expanded a little on that comment. The OP originally said they were planning a trip of 2 - 3 months (I note that notion has been edited out). I've undertaken a few of those. Clothes and boots wear out, gear breaks, other unplanned events lead to unplanned expenditure. Inexpensive food and accommodations are not always available. Indeed, off the amazing pilgrim paths of Spain inexpensive food and accommodation are practically non-existent. The Camino Frances StJ to SdC is, probably still doable on a daily budget of sub €50 for the 30 - 35 days it will take to walk it. 90 days on other less supported and amenable routes? Probably not.
I was doing my math at the start of the thread and came to the sums of 35 a day for 2-3 months on the Frances ( from my experience) would be minimum 60 days to 90 days @ 35€ = 2100-3100 ish
Knowing that outside the CF route or Spain, those numbers could climb sharply
It's good to try and be frugal but people should always try and be realistic also. The outliers might be able to get under 30 on a regular basis but there are no guarantees of a cheap bed or meal. Many on this forum use private accomodation that could easilly double the prices, have their bag transported daily for another 150 a month. It all adds up. Wow away...
Genuine question! Do many poor people walk a Camino. Or is just a myth! I genuinely don’t know. It’s seems a largely middle class thing. I was very very poor as a child ( and it stays with me everyday) and the thought of walking or trekking was for ‘other folks’ bit like skiing and university! We had far more pressing things to worry about and our aspirations were limited! I am sure can all quotes examples but beyond that I am not sure! I am not poor now but I will always be working class in attitude. I still note that things like a Camino are more cherished by the middle classes whereas working class folks like a more ‘fun oriented’ holiday! Most can’t afford a holiday!Great thread. I'm concerned to establish the point that the Camino is accessible to people who don't have deep pockets, because I see it as a important spiritual experience which should be as accessible to all, especially the young, the poor and the working and underclasses.
I like to see the other kinds of pilgrim . . . all of them are in my view welcome, all should be included and facilitated, from the Korean groups jumping on and off the bus to the wealthy in their Arctyrx jackets who stay in Paradors, to the happy young Eurokids who want to keep fit and party. All.
The fact is that as the Camino gets more expensive the poor are being squeezed out. The cheap prices they need are rising due to Covid. The donativos they depend on are closing as the number of volunteers to run them declines. The municipal albergues they can afford are often filled with pilgrims who could easily afford to stay in more expensive accommodation but like the vibe.
That's why I think it's important to maintain the infrastructure that sustains the pilgrimage of the poor, the young and the lower classes (an unpopular but accurate designation, as wealth distribution keeps skewing higher). It's important to make sure that the Camino welcomes and includes them as it has done, explicitly and deliberately, for thousands of years.
Why? A few Caminos ago I met a fine young man, 22, UK working class. He was broke and troubled, as many like him now are. I met him frequently as he walked and I cycled. The Camino inspired him. I heard from him recently and he's working hard, making money, planning his career. It could have gone the other way, so easily.
That's why it's important. For pilgrims like him. Final point: I do it often on 25 euro a day, no bother. I carry a tarp or a bivibag, eat from supermarkets, stay in munis and donativos. It can be done, very easily. So anyone reading this should not be put off by worries about cost. If you want to go or need to go, don't worry, the Camino will provide.
Hmm. I've noticed a couple of "Wows" attached to my earlier post on a budget, on a long walk, of €100/day. Despite my reputation as a Sybarite, Gourmand and Lush I feel I should have expanded a little on that comment. The OP originally said they were planning a trip of 2 - 3 months (I note that notion has been edited out). I've undertaken a few of those. Clothes and boots wear out, gear breaks, other unplanned events lead to unplanned expenditure. Inexpensive food and accommodations are not always available. Indeed, off the amazing pilgrim paths of Spain inexpensive food and accommodation are practically non-existent. The Camino Frances StJ to SdC is, probably still doable on a daily budget of sub €50 for the 30 - 35 days it will take to walk it. 90 days on other less supported and amenable routes? Probably not.
Easily done. There is a tour company offering a 19 day package along the Camino Frances this May. If you want a single room then you will be paying 1000 euros per day. And it appears that the tour is already sold out.I couldn’t think of any other way of spending €100 a day
Easily done. There is a tour company offering a 19 day package along the Camino Frances this May. If you want a single room then you will be paying 1000 euros per day. And it appears that the tour is already sold out.
The Crux of the Camino | Captain's Choice
Follow the footsteps of pilgrims past on the Camino de Santiago, from Saint-Jean-Pied-de-Port to Santiago de Compostela.www.captainschoice.co.uk
I can't use albergues anymore, between my snoring and my bladder and..... Let's just say that I'd rather not be "that" pilgrim. Also, I can afford to spend a little more in the little Hostales and family run places that I have always loved. And though my favourite Finca in Andalusia charges €100 a night now its no longer for a straw mattress on the floor with a dozen others scattered about the same floor and the Horse Trough to wash in. I kind of expect some price increases for indoor plumbing and clean sheets.Mea culpa …
I really thought you were joking
Before I read your second post, I even posted - and swiftly deleted!! … a cheeky reply asking if you were using donativos. I couldn’t think of any other way of spending €100 a day
Surely You're not saying we have the resourcesGreat thread. I'm concerned to establish the point that the Camino is accessible to people who don't have deep pockets, because I see it as a important spiritual experience which should be as accessible to all, especially the young, the poor and the working and underclasses.
I like to see the other kinds of pilgrim . . . all of them are in my view welcome, all should be included and facilitated, from the Korean groups jumping on and off the bus to the wealthy in their Arctyrx jackets who stay in Paradors, to the happy young Eurokids who want to keep fit and party. All.
The fact is that as the Camino gets more expensive the poor are being squeezed out. The cheap prices they need are rising due to Covid. The donativos they depend on are closing as the number of volunteers to run them declines. The municipal albergues they can afford are often filled with pilgrims who could easily afford to stay in more expensive accommodation but like the vibe.
That's why I think it's important to maintain the infrastructure that sustains the pilgrimage of the poor, the young and the lower classes (an unpopular but accurate designation, as wealth distribution keeps skewing higher). It's important to make sure that the Camino welcomes and includes them as it has done, explicitly and deliberately, for thousands of years.
Why? A few Caminos ago I met a fine young man, 22, UK working class. He was broke and troubled, as many like him now are. I met him frequently as he walked and I cycled. The Camino inspired him. I heard from him recently and he's working hard, making money, planning his career. It could have gone the other way, so easily.
That's why it's important. For pilgrims like him. Final point: I do it often on 25 euro a day, no bother. I carry a tarp or a bivibag, eat from supermarkets, stay in munis and donativos. It can be done, very easily. So anyone reading this should not be put off by worries about cost. If you want to go or need to go, don't worry, the Camino will provide.
I'm setting out for some of this: https://camminomaterano.it/
@Tincatinker, is this the same trip you spoke of this coming spring with your "beloved"?Bari to Matera for a warm up. Then probably train rides to Alberobello and then some of the walking down to Lecce. I’m eyeing some of the walks with a little trepidation. Long days and tough country.
And I’m looking forward to great local food and wine (within budget)
I think the infrastructure needed to support all kinds of pilgrims is important to maintain. That's why I'll be volunteering as a hospitalero at a donativo albergue later this year. But I haven't come across any stories to validate your assertion that needy pilgrims are being pushed out of the lower priced municipal and donativo albergues. On the other hand, the last time this concern was raised, hospitaleros with on the ground experience were saying the opposite. In the high season last year, when we were seeing lots of stories of "no room at the inn", with people complaining that everything was full, all the people sharing those stories seemed to be people trying to book ahead and finding nothing that wasn't completely booked. As we know, most of the cheaper municipal and donativo albergues generally do not take reservations. At the same time as those scary stories were being shared, other stories were being shared of empty beds in the albergues that don't take reservations. And, at the same time we were hearing that it is the donations from those who can afford to make them (and can afford to stay in more expensive accommodations) that enable donativos to remain in operation.The fact is that as the Camino gets more expensive the poor are being squeezed out. The cheap prices they need are rising due to Covid. The donativos they depend on are closing as the number of volunteers to run them declines. The municipal albergues they can afford are often filled with pilgrims who could easily afford to stay in more expensive accommodation but like the vibe.
Easily done. There is a tour company offering a 19 day package along the Camino Frances this May. If you want a single room then you will be paying 1000 euros per day. And it appears that the tour is already sold out.
The Crux of the Camino | Captain's Choice
Follow the footsteps of pilgrims past on the Camino de Santiago, from Saint-Jean-Pied-de-Port to Santiago de Compostela.www.captainschoice.co.uk
And even more ‘nuts’ is that checking the link out - one of the ‘tour’ dates is already SOLD OUT ….That’s just nuts
Hmm. I've noticed a couple of "Wows" attached to my earlier post on a budget, on a long walk, of €100/day. Despite my reputation as a Sybarite, Gourmand and Lush I feel I should have expanded a little on that comment. The OP originally said they were planning a trip of 2 - 3 months (I note that notion has been edited out). I've undertaken a few of those. Clothes and boots wear out, gear breaks, other unplanned events lead to unplanned expenditure. Inexpensive food and accommodations are not always available. Indeed, off the amazing pilgrim paths of Spain inexpensive food and accommodation are practically non-existent. The Camino Frances StJ to SdC is, probably still doable on a daily budget of sub €50 for the 30 - 35 days it will take to walk it. 90 days on other less supported and amenable routes? Probably not.
Great thread. I'm concerned to establish the point that the Camino is accessible to people who don't have deep pockets, because I see it as a important spiritual experience which should be as accessible to all, especially the young, the poor and the working and underclasses.
I like to see the other kinds of pilgrim . . . all of them are in my view welcome, all should be included and facilitated, from the Korean groups jumping on and off the bus to the wealthy in their Arctyrx jackets who stay in Paradors, to the happy young Eurokids who want to keep fit and party. All.
The fact is that as the Camino gets more expensive the poor are being squeezed out. The cheap prices they need are rising due to Covid. The donativos they depend on are closing as the number of volunteers to run them declines. The municipal albergues they can afford are often filled with pilgrims who could easily afford to stay in more expensive accommodation but like the vibe.
That's why I think it's important to maintain the infrastructure that sustains the pilgrimage of the poor, the young and the lower classes (an unpopular but accurate designation, as wealth distribution keeps skewing higher). It's important to make sure that the Camino welcomes and includes them as it has done, explicitly and deliberately, for thousands of years.
Why? A few Caminos ago I met a fine young man, 22, UK working class. He was broke and troubled, as many like him now are. I met him frequently as he walked and I cycled. The Camino inspired him. I heard from him recently and he's working hard, making money, planning his career. It could have gone the other way, so easily.
That's why it's important. For pilgrims like him. Final point: I do it often on 25 euro a day, no bother. I carry a tarp or a bivibag, eat from supermarkets, stay in munis and donativos. It can be done, very easily. So anyone reading this should not be put off by worries about cost. If you want to go or need to go, don't worry, the Camino will provide.
Genuine question! Do many poor people walk a Camino. Or is just a myth! I genuinely don’t know. It’s seems a largely middle class thing. I was very very poor as a child ( and it stays with me everyday) and the thought of walking or trekking was for ‘other folks’ bit like skiing and university! We had far more pressing things to worry about and our aspirations were limited! I am sure can all quotes examples but beyond that I am not sure! I am not poor now but I will always be working class in attitude. I still note that things like a Camino are more cherished by the middle classes whereas working class folks like a more ‘fun oriented’ holiday! Most can’t afford a holiday!
Sorry to sound a little cynical and happy to hear that there are loads of people walking who are very poor and being supported, but I have yet to see it on 3 Caminos!
It was really a question like "How long is a piece of string".
No doubt the botafumeiro will swing in Santiago if they are paying this exorbitant amount
There was a good thread about the costs on the Le Puy last year, I think most people were talking of around 40 euros for a gite, demi pension. Presumably that would also put them in the 50 euros per day bracket with lunch and a coffee or two.
I'm going to be seriously addressing the idea of camping, but as that would mean buying a new pack, a tent - or perhaps a bivvy bag - a sleeping mat and a new sleeping bag I'm not sure if the cost is going to make it worth it.
Just an example of one gite, and I know this owner is committed to the spirit of The Way and aims to keep prices down. But there are others with the same approach.Thanks for some updated pricing, @Pelerina, at least from this establishment, and probably others, too. It looks like there are more options to save some euros for those who need to budget then when I walked it in 2018.
It looks like there are more options to save some euros for those who need to budget then when I walked it in 2018.
A little early, but happy anniversary !a completely irrelevant aside, my husband and I will be staying at the gite in late April - marking 10 years since we met there as pilgrims.
I am a bit late to this thread - but some information for those who were asking about costs on the Le Puy Way, including camping. As an example, below is some current information from our friend's gite in Condom. Gites in France tend to have fewer beds in a dormitory and bunk beds are uncommon. The gite has changed in room configurations since we were first there in 2014. It now has one dormitory and 3 private rooms - increasingly common due to changing demands. The dinner and breakfasts provided here are delicious and generous, as is often the case on the French paths. So, in 2024 for one person in a 5 bed room - dinner, bed and breakfast will be 40 euros. A private room with you as the sole occupant will be 60 euros for dinner, bed and breakfast. If you are two, 100 euros all up. This particular gite benefits from a large garden area. Guests are welcome to pitch their tents and to eat breakfast and/ or dinner- or neither as per info below. For those who want to prepare their own meals, there is an outdoor kitchen and tables and chairs as well. There is also an outdoor shower - and from memory, the indoor shower is available for donation. Of course not too many gites have these camping facilities and prices vary - but it is a reasonable indication of current costs at gites (chambre d'hotes will usually cost more). As a completely irrelevant aside, my husband and I will be staying at the gite in late April - marking 10 years since we met there as pilgrims. 1 Shared room (5 single beds) 20 € Overnight €26 with Breakfast €40 with Half-board 3 Bedrooms 2 P (1 double + 2 twins) 1P 40 € Overnight €46 with Breakfast 60 € with Half-board 2P 60 € Overnight 72 € with Breakfast 100 € with Half-board Tent pitch 10 € Overnight 14 € with Breakfast €26 with Half-board Services Donativo Washing machine or dryer Donativo Kitchen free access Donativo Welcoming animals (Dogs, Donkeys) Free Secure bike room (electric battery charging = €2) / Lock Cycle park Free Wifi & Library Tourist tax included in each rate above Deposit payment only for groups of 4 or more (50% of the total reservation amount)
As it's our friend's gite I didn't want to be seen to be 'advertising' on his behalf. And there are many other wondeful gites on the Le Puy Way. It's the Gite Le Champ d'Etoiles in Condom. The name means 'Field of Stars'; the word 'Compostela' has the same meaning. It is also listed on Gronze, but I don't think Florian (the owner) has updated the information or photos for some time. This is their website. You can Google for reviews.A little early, but happy anniversary !
Only one thing missing from the wonderful information you have given :
their contact details? Please?
I will be walking the French route starting mid August and am planning on 50 days including 5 days travel. My budget is 65.00 per day excluding travel and 100.00 per day including travel. I love my coffee, food, beer, etc.I’m not at all certain what the daily experience will be, which is the most encouraging aspect of this adventure. I’m am curious as to what the average daily expense most hikers engage? I’m thinking once or twice a week I might stop at a nicer hotel, but for the most part I’m looking to the hostels and meals at most cafes.
Thank You for your hard workOne of those really tough questions as there are so many varaibles and preferences to take into account.
It could be anythhing from 25-100+ Euros/day....
I'm one of those 'over planners'. I just love the planning process, though my plans tend to go out the window once I start! But planning is fun and gives me ideas.......
I put together a budget planner that covers all the cost elements, and allows me to select the degree of 'comfort' for my Camino.It's interestiing to see how the overall budget can vary.
It's a large spreadsheet, so I'll paste in sections with an explanation before each bit.
Note that there are costs that won't apply to some Pilgrims.
I need medical help along the way such as Fisio. And also use a lot of phone data.
These are the rough cost categories for last year. On the VdlP. So Spain.
Others will have opinions on the unit costs I'm sureAll opinions are valid!
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Then I have three variations of budget that apply these costs in different proportions.
And I can play around with the figures.
So the First Pass, is my Preferred Budget. 74 euros / day
The yellow boxes are numbers that can be altered.
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Next is what I have called a Mid Level budget. 60 Euros/day.
More DIY meals, more nights in Albergues etc.
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Then there is a lower level Budget. 35 Euros/day
About as low as I can get it.
I could go a bit lower using only Municipal / Donativo Albergues of course.
Maybe 8-10 euros / night. (not 14)
No meds or phone data though.
Lots of DIY meals and using Albergues all bar one night.
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So your budget is likely to lay somewhere between 35-75 Euros per day.
Unless you want to use private accomodation all the time and eat well.
Then it might look like this......... 100 / Euros/day
Higher if you want to use nice Hotels.
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30euros including accommodationThank You for your hard work
I'm assuming that if you are asking, you are looking for reasonable but budget friendly accommodation. Not sure what month you are going but assuming you will go during the main season, municipal albergues range from about 8 - 12 euros, so figure an average of 10 per night. You can usually find a decent hotel room for about 50 euros for a single person, though they usually have 2 twin beds. You could also choose a private room in an albergue with a single being about 25 - 30 euros or a double for about 35 euros.I’m not at all certain what the daily experience will be, which is the most encouraging aspect of this adventure. I’m am curious as to what the average daily expense most hikers engage? I’m thinking once or twice a week I might stop at a nicer hotel, but for the most part I’m looking to the hostels and meals at most cafes.
Depends on the level of accommodation obviously. But assume you are asking for a reasonable budget. For myself I stay in bunkbeds about half the time for €10-€12, though the municipal ones are as low as seven euros. But if you figure an average of 10, you will be close. A private room in an albergue for a single is about €25-€35. The €35 room usually has two twin beds. If you want to split the cost with someone. For meals, I figure about five euros for breakfast, which includes coffee and tortilla (basically eggs and potatoes baked into a pie.) And I will usually buy a baguette from the bakery to snack on while I walk for about one euro. Usually that's what I will have for lunch with some cheese or deli meat at about two euros for a package from the store. Dinner is usually about €10-€15, depending on the restaurant you eat at. Usually the pilgrim dinners are about €10-€12 and include wine, bread and the meal. If you want something light and simple you can eat at one of the bars where they usually serve patatas bravas and other light foods for about €5-€7. Another option is to cook for yourself in hostels that include a kitchen. You can buy a box of pasta at the store for about one euro and a jar of pesto sauce for about two euros. This would feed several people, so, as you make friends, you could split something like this.I’m not at all certain what the daily experience will be, which is the most encouraging aspect of this adventure. I’m am curious as to what the average daily expense most hikers engage? I’m thinking once or twice a week I might stop at a nicer hotel, but for the most part I’m looking to the hostels and meals at most cafes.
Is that $USD or euros?I will be walking the French route starting mid August and am planning on 50 days including 5 days travel. My budget is 65.00 per day excluding travel and 100.00 per day including travel. I love my coffee, food, beer, etc.
Good catch! Euros!Is that $USD or euros?
I do try not to use profane language without good cause; but £16,900 for a single room booking. Unbelievable.And even more ‘nuts’ is that checking the link out - one of the ‘tour’ dates is already SOLD OUT ….
No doubt the botafumeiro will swing in Santiago if they are paying this exorbitant amount …. Surely it will guaranteed at that price.
Crazy $$$
I had to google the definition of craic. I like it!he was doing it again, this time in munis and donativos-- because that's where the craic was to be found.
It made me think of the Leonard Cohen song refrain: "There is a craic, a craic in everything. That's how the light gets in." Though I might possibly have misheard the line....I had to google the definition of craic. I like it!
A new word for me to use on my friends and family at home in the US.
When I'm on a Camino, my travel costs tend to be zero. (I'm walking.Good catch! Euros!
One of those really tough questions as there are so many variables and preferences to take into account.
It could be anything from 25-100+ Euros/day....
I'm one of those 'over planners'. I just love the planning process, though my plans tend to go out the window once I start! But planning is fun and gives me ideas.......
I put together a budget planner that covers all the cost elements, and allows me to select the degree of 'comfort' for my Camino.It's interesting to see how the overall budget can vary.
It's a large spreadsheet, so I'll paste in sections with an explanation before each bit.
Note that there are costs that won't apply to some Pilgrims.
I need medical help along the way such as Fisio. And also use a lot of phone data.
These are the rough cost categories for last year. On the VdlP. (So Spain)
Others will have opinions on the unit costs I'm sureAll opinions are valid!
View attachment 164544
Then I have three variations of budget that apply these costs in different proportions.
And I can play around with the figures.
So the First Pass, is my Preferred Budget. 74 euros / day
The yellow boxes are numbers that can be altered.
View attachment 164545
Next is what I have called a Mid Level budget. 60 Euros/day.
More DIY meals, more nights in Albergues etc.
View attachment 164549
Then there is a lower level Budget. 35 Euros/day
About as low as I can get it.
I could go a bit lower using only Municipal / Donativo Albergues of course.
Maybe 8-10 euros / night. (not 14)
No meds or phone data though.
Lots of DIY meals and using Albergues all bar one night.
View attachment 164550
So your budget is likely to lay somewhere between 35-75 Euros per day.
Unless you want to use private accommodation all the time and eat well.
Then it might look like this......... 100 / Euros/day
Higher if you want to use nice Hotels.
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Oh shit, how did I miss this one? Donativo €5? You tight fisted $*&*%^%£$)* Please don't tell me you can't afford the €15-25 that would be more appropriateDonativo 5 euro,
Might I represent all the other Davids on here and protest that it wasn’t us! (Unless it was one of the several I have ‘ignored’)I can understand your shock at my remarks, David, but I wish you'd read what I wrote and the context around it a bit more carefully before responding in such terms, which I'm sure you wouldn't use if we were to meet in person.
My contributions to this thread have been intended to support the view that people with very little money can do the Camino if they wish. That's what donativos are for ... volunteers give up their time and richer pilgrims pay as much as they wish in order to make it possible for the poor to do this pilgrimage. People do it on 5 a day, or on nothing, and the Camino provides; it's been so for a thousand years. I'm sure you've seen the conation box in Granon with the notice "take what you need, leave what you can".
So I wrote as I did in order to reassure the poorer pilgrim that it can be done on 25 a day.
You know nothing about my means,or what I can afford, and you know nothing about how much I give in donativos. So I'll let it go. But permit me to advise you not to address me or anyone else in such terms again, David.
I’m not at all certain what the daily experience will be, which is the most encouraging aspect of this adventure. I’m am curious as to what the average daily expense most hikers engage? I’m thinking once or twice a week I might stop at a nicer hotel, but for the most part I’m looking to the hostels and meals at most cafes.
I can understand why Tincatinker might think a 5 euro donation was your standard practice. The post is written in the first person, as what you do, rather than as what someone else might do.I can understand your shock at my remarks, David, but I wish you'd read what I wrote and the context around it a bit more carefully before responding in such terms, which I'm sure you wouldn't use if we were to meet in person.
My contributions to this thread have been intended to support the view that people with very little money can do the Camino if they wish. That's what donativos are for ... volunteers give up their time and richer pilgrims pay as much as they wish in order to make it possible for the poor to do this pilgrimage. People do it on 5 a day, or on nothing, and the Camino provides; it's been so for a thousand years. I'm sure you've seen the conation box in Granon with the notice "take what you need, leave what you can".
So I wrote as I did in order to reassure the poorer pilgrim that it can be done on 25 a day.
You know nothing about my means,or what I can afford, and you know nothing about how much I give in donativos. So I'll let it go. But permit me to advise you not to address me or anyone else in such terms again, David.
I try to keep it at 25 per day, less if I camp. Rock bottom is 15 ... [ellipsis in original] Donativo 5 euro, Caretilla microwave mean 4, bread 1, fruit 1.50, 3.50 coffee. ... [ellipsis added by me]
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