Trekking poles

[GroveMountain]

Hi there fellow Peregrinos!

I will walk my first Camino in May 2025 and am slowly gathering my equipment. I have my boots that I've been hiking in and this pair seem to be good. I really want a pair of Trek Poles now as I am training on inclines and declines now. I went to REI last weekend and I just wasn't sure with the selection offered if they were the right poles for me, they all had very mixed reviews.

I was wondering if you could give me your reviews on the poles you've used? What you liked, what you didn't. Did they go the distance, did you use them just to climb or descend or to walk with daily.

I plan to walk the whole Frances so I will need poles that will stand the test, so to speak. I really appreciate your time and consideration.

 

[trecile]

I plan to walk the whole Frances so I will need poles that will stand the test, so to speak.

Most poles, even cheap ones will last the entire distance.

Whether you want to pay for extra for particular features - lighter weight, cork handles, etc. is up to you.

I had never used poles before my first Camino so I ended up buying Pacer Poles because they have a unique grip which seemed to be "idiot proof".

Hiking, Walking & Trekking Poles | Pacerpole Walking System

Pacerpole produce ergonomically designed walking and trekking poles. Pacerpoles improve your walking ability and general health. Free worldwide shipping.

pacerpole.com

 

[CWBuff]

Hello and welcome
Poles are one if the hottest topics of this forum so be prepared to see lots of various opinions.
Fir myself I can unequivocally state that I use a very cheap pair of retractable Swissgear poles that costed me whooping $15.00 some 14 years ago and have been with me on various tracks including Camino Inca, Frances, Finisterre and recently TMB.

 

[GroveMountain]

Most poles, even cheap ones will last the entire distance.

Whether you want to pay for extra for particular features - lighter weight, cork handles, etc. is up to you.

I had never used poles before my first Camino so I ended up buying Pacer Poles because they have a unique grip which seemed to be "idiot proof".

Hiking, Walking & Trekking Poles | Pacerpole Walking System

Pacerpole produce ergonomically designed walking and trekking poles. Pacerpoles improve your walking ability and general health. Free worldwide shipping.

pacerpole.com

Thank you Trecile! I borrowed a pair on my last hike and didn't much care for the grips and felt that if used for a day would create blisters between my thumb and forefinger. I was thinking either tape that area or get a pair of fingerless gloves. But what I'd really like is not to have to do either of those things!

 

[GroveMountain]

Hello and welcome
Poles are one if the hottest topics of this forum so be prepared to see lots of various opinions.
Fir myself I can unequivocally state that I use a very cheap pair of retractable Swissgear poles that costed me whooping $15.00 some 14 years ago and have been with me on various tracks including Camino Inca, Frances, Finisterre and recently TMB.

That's good to hear! I didn't know Swissgear made poles, I have 3 of their suitcases! I did like the retractable ones from Diamond(?) that I saw, they were the lightest poles but sadly had the worst reviews! I will look into the Swiss gear too. Thanks again

 

[GroveMountain]

That's good to hear! I didn't know Swissgear made poles, I have 3 of their suitcases! I did like the retractable ones from Diamond(?) that I saw, they were the lightest poles but sadly had the worst reviews! I will look into the Swiss gear too. Thanks again

Wait, I just noticed, you went on TMB? I have a friend who went on that hike in Aug this year with his wife!

 

[CWBuff]

@GroveMountain - one of the problems is that it's quite difficult to get those cheap Swissgear poles. You might have to do some serious homework locating them. I tried and failed when I was trying to get a pair fir my wife in anticipation of TMB (yes we went in July, but had to cut it short as she sustained an injury ).
These are mine: Swiss Gear Adjustable Telescoping... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0019IQ1WS?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share

and these are the ones I wound up getting fir her: Cascade Mountain Tech Trekking... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01055BZDA?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share

Mine are still going strong not through the tracks I've mentioned but also numerous hikes throughout US - parts of AT, Sierra Nevadas, The so called PA Grand Canyon to name a few and tons of local ones...
Never failed.... not once... hopefully will still accompany me on CF return roughly 2 years from now...

Good luck and Buen Camino

 

[Sirage]

Thank you Trecile! I borrowed a pair on my last hike and didn't much care for the grips and felt that if used for a day would create blisters between my thumb and forefinger.

I have walked 000s of kilometres with my Pacer Poles with no blisters.

They do take a few days or maybe more to get used to them, including synchronising the arms with your legs (Pacer Poles provide instructions although they can apply to all poles). Soon enough they feel like a natural extension to your arms.

Sometimes wearing thin gloves maybe useful for comfort (with all poles, personal preference), and gloves also reduce sunburn on your hands which maybe is also of interest.

Possibly your imagined feelings were premature.

 

[NerdGjerd]

Hi Grove, I will also be walking my first Camino, about a month before you. So my advice has zero real Camino experience to back it up. But here goes anyway:

1. The grips that are hurting your hands - are you putting your hands up under the straps? Look up a how-to video for trekking poles. The method of putting your hands up under the straps is odd, but I think for me it helps make my hands not hurt when I’m training. Especially when the straps are cinched to just the right length. That makes it so you don’t really have to hold on tightly to the grip.

2. I am planning to purchase poles when I get to France so I don’t have to deal with taking mine on any planes. I have heard there are cheap ones available. I’m also doing some pre-Camino touring of Hamburg, Paris, Nice, and my cheap Columbia-Outlet poles are not worth lugging around.

 

[C clearly]

didn't much care for the grips

I agree that you should probably consider whether you are holding the poles correctly.

 

[dick bird]

I was wondering if you could give me your reviews on the poles you've used? What you liked, what you didn't. Did they go the distance, did you use them just to climb or descend or to walk with daily.

Poles are poles. Apart from Pacers, which have a special grip, they are pretty much of a muchness so far as walking goes. The differences are in how they fold up, their weight, and strength (and cost). At least, that is my opinion. You can also buy them in France or Spain thus avoiding that perennial favourite ´Can I take my poles on a plane as hand luggage?´

 

[Robo]

Selecting poles is like asking for a choice of boots or packs.
Everyone has their favorites.
They all basically do the same job.
Mine have done about 3,000 kms on Camino so far.
So like me, not really worn it yet!


I would say:

1. Used incorrectly they are merely dead weight. I'd hesitate to say, probably 60-70% on Camino use them incorrectly........... (I'll now duck). There are plenty of videos on how to use them.
2. My wife and I use them every step of the way, up, down and flat. Used well they take weight off the joints and improve posture. They are not just for 'balance'.
3. They require quite significant downward force to get the most benefit. I tried to measure it and reckon it can be about 5-10 kg. This is what takes the weight off your joints and improves posture. "for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction" Newton's 3rd law. This is the bit most people don't do. You want weight off your joints, put weight (force) down through the poles.
4. The grips almost don't matter. Because you don't actually grip them. The weight is placed on the pole straps, with just 2 or 3 fingers lightly touching the grip to guide the pole. Uphills and downhills require a bit more grip and a slightly different 'grip' with the hands.
5. Used correctly you won't get blisters on fingers / hands. Because you are not 'gripping' anything. We do carry lightweight gloves but they are for sun or cold protection.
6. We use very lightweight poles, only 316 gms per pair. They work well, but need some care to not over tighten the twist locks. I have had to replace a couple of section.

Happy shopping

Of course there is nothing wrong with merely using poles as 'outriggers' for improved balance, like many do. Just that they can provide far more benefit that that.

Note.
Pacer poles are used in a slightly different way I think.
They don't have straps but specially shaped grips.
I'm not into 'gripping' so haven't tried them.

Someone may come along and correct me on the differences........
Lots of Pacer fans here.

 

[woody66]

Like Trecile i buy cheap from Decathlon about thirty euros the pair and donate them when i fly home!
Don't buy the twist to tighten they are a pain.
I brought an expensive pair in SJPP for over 60 euros they broke after three days;i repaired them but bent one like a banana when i fell of the path; so back to Decathlon in Pamplona for cheapies!
My first pair in Porto cost me 12 euros for the pair and they took a bashing but held up fine till Santiago!

 

[Peterexpatkiwi]

@GroveMountain, like @woody66 I have cheap decathlon poles. Whilst I am on to my second pair that is purely because I left my first behind in Santiago due to the old Santiago airport regulations prohibiting poles in carry on luggage (which have now changed).
I'm based in Germany so am able to fly in and out with them, because you're based in the USA beware that the regulations prohibit this from the States. You have to put them in checked luggage.
Yes this will start the old argument that many get them through but that is luck not law.

I have well over two thousand kilometers on my second Pair.

I never used to use poles but now am an absolute convert. If I am walking they are in my hands - they support me, not I them. From the beginning they increased the distance that I could comfortably walk in a day, & reduced the stress on my knees.

Whilst I do not wear gloves I've seen many that do. As both @NerdGjerd and Robo say, holding them properly is all important.

Used incorrectly they are merely dead weight. I'd hesitate to say, probably 60-70% on Camino use them incorrectly...........

I agree completely. And also with points 2, 4 and 5 above.

Whilst old this is still one of the best training videos I've come across, clearly I'm not alone because I've seen others suggest this video.

Just a suggestion: you could buy a cheap pair of poles for training, and learn to use them properly. This will enable you to figure out if they are for you or not; what you like and don't like and whether or not you need gloves. Worst case, you could then donate them. (At the local Goodwill for example).

 

[J Willhaus]

We have had the same Black Diamond collapsible poles for about 10 years now. They fold up in three pieces and fit in a little mesh bag. The tips are interchangeable for either steel or rubber and we carry extras in the special pocket on the mesh bag. The whole thing fits in your backpack so you don't have to leave your poles in the pole bin by the door at the albergue. Easy to transport and less likely to be forgotten or taken by another.

 

[trecile]

Selecting poles is like asking for a choice of boots or packs.
Everyone has their favorites.
They all basically do the same job.
Mine have done about 3,000 kms on Camino so far.
So like me, not really worn it yet!


I would say:

1. Used incorrectly they are merely dead weight. I'd hesitate to say, probably 60-70% on Camino use them incorrectly........... (I'll now duck). There are plenty of videos on how to use them.
2. My wife and I use them every step of the way, up, down and flat. Used well they take weight off the joints and improve posture. They are not just for 'balance'.
3. They require quite significant downward force to get the most benefit. I tried to measure it and reckon it can be about 5-10 kg. This is what takes the weight off your joints and improves posture. "for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction" Newton's 3rd law. This is the bit most people don't do. You want weight off your joints, put weight (force) down through the poles.
4. The grips almost don't matter. Because you don't actually grip them. The weight is placed on the pole straps, with just 2 or 3 fingers lightly touching the grip to guide the pole. Uphills and downhills require a bit more grip and a slightly different 'grip' with the hands.
5. Used correctly you won't get blisters on fingers / hands. Because you are not 'gripping' anything. We do carry lightweight gloves but they are for sun or cold protection.
6. We use very lightweight poles, only 316 gms per pair. They work well, but need some care to not over tighten the twist locks. I have had to replace a couple of section.

Happy shopping

Of course there is nothing wrong with merely using poles as 'outriggers' for improved balance, like many do. Just that they can provide far more benefit that that.

Note.
Pacer poles are used in a slightly different way I think.
They don't have straps but specially shaped grips.
I'm not into 'gripping' so haven't tried them.

Someone may come along and correct me on the differences........
Lots of Pacer fans here.

I'd say that the ergonomically shaped hand "grip" is more of a cradle for your hands. You actually just have to rest your hand on it - no real "gripping" required.

 

[David Tallan]

Most poles, even cheap ones will last the entire distance.

I'm still using the same cheap poles I bought on my 2016 Camino. They show no signs of wearing out (though the rubber or plastic tips have had to be replaced a number of times).

 

[Cecinunley]

Hi there fellow Peregrinos!

I will walk my first Camino in May 2025 and am slowly gathering my equipment. I have my boots that I've been hiking in and this pair seem to be good. I really want a pair of Trek Poles now as I am training on inclines and declines now. I went to REI last weekend and I just wasn't sure with the selection offered if they were the right poles for me, they all had very mixed reviews.

I was wondering if you could give me your reviews on the poles you've used? What you liked, what you didn't. Did they go the distance, did you use them just to climb or descend or to walk with daily.

I plan to walk the whole Frances so I will need poles that will stand the test, so to speak. I really appreciate your time and consideration.

Hi there fellow Peregrinos!

I will walk my first Camino in May 2025 and am slowly gathering my equipment. I have my boots that I've been hiking in and this pair seem to be good. I really want a pair of Trek Poles now as I am training on inclines and declines now. I went to REI last weekend and I just wasn't sure with the selection offered if they were the right poles for me, they all had very mixed reviews.

I was wondering if you could give me your reviews on the poles you've used? What you liked, what you didn't. Did they go the distance, did you use them just to climb or descend or to walk with daily.

I plan to walk the whole Frances so I will need poles that will stand the test, so to speak. I really appreciate your time and consideration.

I used poles from Costco that were just fine and lasted the entire way from SFPP to Santiago. Advice I heard was you don’t need the fancy stuff and it worked in my case. Used them every day for 42 days.

 

[J Walking]

gloves also reduce sunburn on your hands which maybe is also of interest.

I agreed. I started the CF with walking poles but without gloves. With the correct grip, your hands get full sunshine (and sunburn). The gloves were an easy choice over sunscreen and prevented blisters.

 

[Yankee]

I bought a cheap metal pair of poles when I was training for the Camino France. While walking on concrete sidewalk my back started hurting after each training walk. The poles improve my posture and the back aches went away. I used the poles during my whole Camino. I left them in a Santiago hotel because one pole would not retrack back into itself.

My only warning is the poles should not be left unattended while taking photographs. My friend David of Ireland lost one while taking a photograph of a fountain. From that point on, David carried on with one pole.

I truly believe Spanish citizens respect us and feel it is unlucky to mess with a pilgrim. Dave could not identify the finder of the lost and mislaid property but hiking poles instead of canes are used by elderly worldwide.

 

[Getwood]

When I walked a portion of the CF in September, I used these poles:

   https://genuineguidegear.com/products/pivot-trek-poles

They're Z-style (collapsible into 3 sections) poles that pack well, snapping together via high-powered magnets for stowing. I should've made better use of them, but they were quite good and sturdy. That being said, if you're doing the Frances and starting at SJPdP, there are two stores on the same street as the Pilgrim office that sell a variety of poles at different price points, assuming you don't want to pack yours.

 

[Charles Ross]

Re: transporting your poles on the plane as part of carry on. Have your doctor provide you with a note saying that the poles are necessary for proper balance. It doesn't have to be complicated. My note says simply 'to whom it may concern' and is printed on the clinic's stationary. Have I ever actually presented this note to a TSA screener? No. But it serves as back-up documentation if I am challenged. I just tell TSA that I have balance problems and the 'sticks' are a medical necessity. It is a rule: no walking sticks as carry on as they are considered to be 'sporting equipment', but it is a soft rule that allows discretion.

 

[Antonius Vaessen]

On my first Camino (VdlP) I used Leki poles. Somehow I did not get used to the proper use of them. I read some reviews of Pacer Poles and the idea of the way the handles are shaped "spoke to me " immediately. I bought them and used them on 7 caminos and all my trainingwalks at home. Like Trecile said they are really "idiotproof" , the proper use of them comes naturally as the poles indeed feel like an extension of your arms. There is no strap and you dont have to grip the pole.
There are two disadvantages of Pacer Poles : they are expensive and you van only buy them on line,they will be send from the UK. ( the reason for this I don't know or understand)

 

[Philip Nelson]

Hi there fellow Peregrinos!

I will walk my first Camino in May 2025 and am slowly gathering my equipment. I have my boots that I've been hiking in and this pair seem to be good. I really want a pair of Trek Poles now as I am training on inclines and declines now. I went to REI last weekend and I just wasn't sure with the selection offered if they were the right poles for me, they all had very mixed reviews.

I was wondering if you could give me your reviews on the poles you've used? What you liked, what you didn't. Did they go the distance, did you use them just to climb or descend or to walk with daily.

I plan to walk the whole Frances so I will need poles that will stand the test, so to speak. I really appreciate your time and consideration.

I had never used trekking poles. I purchased some beforehand. Glad we did, very helpful. Got the collapsible kind. Worked great, just strapped them to side of pack when not needed. Be sure to get the rubber tips you can put on and maybe an extra set. The clicking of metal tips on cobblestone is awful. Drove me nuts as well as others. And some people just click away.

 

[Dawsie]

Hi GroveMountain, I strongly recommend use of trekking poles on the Camino, but above don't bother with expensive poles, save weight elsewhere - eg fewer clothes.
Please take the sand/mud baskets off, so you don't look like a newbie.
Take a spare pair of rubber tips, they wear through quickly.
I reckon on 10% faster or further using poles.
Gripping the poles is good on a cold morning to get fingers warmed up, but otherwise the force should go through the "sling" and side of your hand and only using your fingers to guide the poles.
They are also good for probing the depth of puddles and checking the stability of steep bits.

 

[CTLawGal]

I have used Leki for years and took mine on my first Camino - I have come to prefer the ones that fold like tent poles with a cable rather than the telescoping poles, because they are easier to fold and easier to assemble at the right height. I reach back to pull the folded pair out of the pocket in my pack and assemble while walking without having to check the measurement. The telescoping ones you have to set at your height each time. I also found that with time, the telescoping ones would loosen up and one pole would start to be shorter than the other, I'd have to pause to tighten, then proceed only to have it happen again, super annoying (maybe this is just a Leki problem?). I couldn't find a way to make them retain the grip, so I bought the folding kind, way happier with them on all accounts.

Some of the Leki poles come with a strap that's a little like a glove without fingers, with a quick release. I find I blister less with that style but with the velcro close, it's harder to take off than just a loop. A loop used properly shouldn't blister either if used properly.

I don't like to use the poles for the entire day, usually starting without them until I get to a big incline or decline, then put them away again after a few hours, maybe using them 70%-80% of the time, but always on the downhill. It is easier to take pictures if one is not attached to a pole or constantly having to take your hand out of the loop, but better for your knees to use them!

The most important thing about using trekking poles on your Camino (aside from using them correctly!), whichever kind you get, is to make sure you always attach them to your pack when not using them, whether you've taken them off to stop for a cafe con leche, to tie your shoes, or to remove your jacket. It is super easy to leave them behind, especially in your tired state of walking and new surroundings. You'd think it would be hard to walk off without them, believe me it's not!!

 

[henrythedog]

Well, poles are poles are poles - except when they are not.

Collapsable poles - one section slides into the other. Much of a muchness. You might as well buy cheap on arrival and discard on leaving. Even decathlon’s €12 pair will survive the Frances - although some (which I use and cherish) can be found in 4-section as opposed to 3 and this are more packable in checked luggage.

A special mention for pacer poles which have a patented hand-grip. The inventors and sole sellers live only a few miles from me in the UK. Once you’re converted, you’re there for life, they’re amazing if you’re a convert.

Folding, z-poles and such. Pack small, sometimes fixed-length or with minimal adjustment. I’m not a physicist and don’t like the minimalist versions.

In every case (apart from pacers) the single most important feature is nothing to do with the poles, it’s knowing how to use them. It’s not obvious, yet important. You don’t grip the handles, you use the strap to take the weight - there are various videos on YouTube showing how. Please look at this, it’s transformational.

Finally there’s the question as to ‘how many’.

There is a formula (A+L)/2 where A is your number of arms and L your number of legs which calculates the optimum number of poles to use.

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[el-pe]

Using poles and straps correctly results in no blisters, incorrectly will. Watch videos or ask someone at REI. Also buying poles only works if you check your bag. Like others I buy the 39euro poles at Decathlon and they have worked well.

 

[Getwood]

[snip]

There is a formula (A+L)/2 where A is your number of arms and L your number of legs which calculates the optimum number of poles to use.

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I keep coming up with '3,' rounded up. Am I doing something wrong?

. . .

Oh, waitasec . . . that's not a "leg" . . .

 

[JWB]

When I start a Camino I always buy cheap poles, preferrably at Decathlon, costs €13 a pair. If no Decathlon is around I buy poles at a Chinese store, they always have these in stock. After the Camino I donate the poles in the last albergue. No hassle with flights with only hand luggage.

 

[henrythedog]

I keep coming up with '3,' rounded up. Am I doing something wrong?

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Oh, waitasec . . . that's not a "leg" . . .

, allegedly.

I know nothing about emojis.

 

[KiwiMike]

I'm going to throw a wild card in here. I finished the del Norte a month ago and, like many, was obsessive about weight before I left. I found some poles on Temu that are 130 grams and fold five ways, so tuck down to very small. They are fixed length and luckily one length is the same as my standard poles which are carbon fibre and weigh around 600g. Price around $30 US.
So I bought them and they performed beautifully. I wore out a set of end rubbers, so they got a lot of use.
The handgrips are quite small in diameter. I use a pole "properly" and I found the straps to be excellent and the smaller grip size was unusual but I quickly adapted. I'm about to do a four day mountain walk and will use these poles in preference to my old ones.

The pole description and a link you can copy and paste included below. Has a weird security validation but links to the correct goods.

1/2pcs 110/120/130cm 100 % Full Carbon Hiking Poles, Fish Pattern Folding Ultralight Five-Section Trekking Pole, Portable Travel Walking Stick https://share.temu.com/5iYcNyqI7yA

 

[Trekker One]

I bought a pair of Komperdell carbon fibre poles back in 2013. They have lasted seven Camino's and many, many mountain hikes in Alberta and BC.
Very light weight and strong.
Buy quality and it will last a long time.
I usually wear fingerless biking gloves with my poles. My poles are out and in use 100% of the time except in larger centers where they might be a trip hazard for others.
I've never understood seeing people carrying their poles on their back pack. How exactly do they know the day they might stumble and need their poles from doing a face plant on the trail?

 

[Anna Cameron]

My opinion: "poles ain't poles."
There ARE differences because different types are used for different activities. I use Nordic walking poles and walk with a group started by a physiotherapist who is also a Nordic walking instructor., She fitted me and supplied me with my first pair of Leki poles back in 2017 and trained me and others in the technique. It isn't rocket science, but it is a technique, which you can probably learn by watching an instructional video, but is so much more easily mastered by a lesson or two (ie, hands-on with someone who knows the method). I also saw people who had no idea how to use them, fumbling and flailing and falling, for the lack of an hour's training and practice beforehand.
I like the Leki Nordic Walking poles because they are lightweight and collapsible, but primarily because they feature a "glove" type strap, which means you don't grip the poles but lightly hold them as you walk. (This is important for me because I have Raynaud's syndrome which is exacerbated by strong gripping or vibration). I ALWAYS wear gloves (currently Montane Grippy gloves) no matter the temperature, to prevent sweaty hands and for sun protection. My first pair of Leki poles lasted me through my CF in 2018, my Chemin in 2022 and all my regular walks at home and about. I'm on my second pair now and I wouldn't leave home without them!

 

[Optimistic Traveler]

We have used hiking poles for at least 20 years - would not do without them! At home, we use good quality Leki poles.
But for the camino, we bought less expensive poles when we got to Spain. This way, we could carry on our packs and not have to worry about TSA. They worked just fine for us.

 

[dougfitz]

My take on this is that you get what you pay for, particularly if you are going to be using your poles continually and are serious about either reducing the weight being carried through your hips and knees, or improving your walking speed.

My own experience with cheaper poles was on the CF, where one of a set of poles in the mid-price range at the time had lost the metal tip, and the rest of the tip was being destroyed as the plastic was no longer protected when it was hitting the ground. I bought a cheap pair in Villafranca. They were sprung poles, but only for a few days when the spring in one pole collapsed completely. The other lasted a couple more day. I bought a more expensive, still mid-price range, pair in Melide. These lasted the rest of the camino, but failed within about six months of regular use back home when the twist lock failed on one pole.

Losing the spring is not an uncommon failure mechanism, and I have had such failures on other poles. The major difference is that poles from reputable makers like Komperdell, Black Diamond and Leki have always given a much longer life than mid-range brands like Fizan. Some years ago Black Diamond made poles with a 'rubber' ring between the handgrip and top pole section as the spring. The one I have has lasted in regular use for over a decade. This approach doesn't seem to have been continued. My lesson from this is that I avoid buying anti-shock poles.

Another area where cheaper pole brands appear to cut costs is in the strap design. The first way they do this is by reducing the width of the strap. This will make the strap less comfortable as it will reduce the surface area of strap around the wrist, increasing the pressure on the skin for any particular downward pressure on the pole. Leki and Black Diamond have straps about 3cm wide. I find anything much less than 2.5cm wide noticeably less comfortable.

The next area of strap design is the materials used. This starts with simple, relatively hard, webbing straps with plastic buckles. Some makers use a softer strap, trim the edges with a softer material, or line the strap where it fits around the wrist, all to make the strap more comfortable to use. The other approach that has emerged over recent years is a very thin, wide strap made of a slightly softer but still strong material. I have had a couple of pairs of Leki poles with this arrangement. They have been improving this system, and on the most recent Leki poles I purchased this year, it has been improved significantly. With the earlier poles, the strap had a tendency to twist and not sit flat around my wrist under some usage conditions.

Then there is a wide variety of strap adjustment mechanisms, even with poles from the same maker there can be variations. Some simpler mechanisms will reduce the weight, but have other design compromises that make them more difficult to adjust easily. I find the current Leki mechanism one of the best for ease of use, followed by any mechanism that uses a small wedge in the handle to tighten the strap. I don't particularly like those with simple plastic buckles that sit at the back of the wrist or along the side of the hand. In between are those, like Fizan, that use a velcro adjustment that works reasonably well.

Collapsing vs folding poles. I don't think there is much in this for a lot of people, and on the Camino, I don't think it makes much difference. I use collapsing poles because I walk in conditions where there are regularly steep downhill slopes, and I want to extend my poles far more than the relatively limited range provided by the foldable poles I have seen. Suffice to say for the camino, either approach should work.

Carbon vs aluminium. I have used both, and I do like the lightness of good carbon poles, but I don't really think that the extra cost is worth it.

Flick lock vs twist locks. I prefer a flick lock for the ease of making adjustments to my pole length as I transition from flat and uphill to steeper downhill. Twist locks take a little more time to adjust, and are better suited to flatter terrain or places where one setting will suffice for most of the walk. Flick locks will need to be kept tight in order to work, an adjustment that is a matter of moments once you know how to do it. I see some comments earlier that indicate this wasn't done, and the pole kept collapsing. That is entirely preventable.

Rubber tips, baskets, and other fittings. I leave the mud basket on all my poles. This is not a matter of aesthetics, but as a practical matter I do use my poles walking on wet tracks and over soft soil where the mud basket prevents the pole sinking too far. Perhaps not a bit issue for most camino routes. Rubber tips on the other hand are a no brainer. Use good ones - Black Diamond or Forclaz (Decathalon) are my current choices for good, long lasting 'conical' tips, and Swix for good walking tips*. My recent experience with other makers tips has not been great. I did find a really good solid tip when I did the S:t Olavsleden a few years ago, but haven't found it here in Australia.

Pacer poles. My view is that the one significant advantage these have over conventional poles with straps is that they are going to be impossible to use incorrectly. While it doesn't take much time to learn to use a conventional pole correctly, my observation is that many don't and use the strap in a way that (a) doesn't get the best from the pole in terms of weight reduction, stability control, or increased walking speed, and (b) would be more dangerous were they to slip and fall, not be able to release the pole, and then have their hands, wrists and lower arms entangled with the pole as they hit the ground. Pacer poles is one way of overcoming that for those who don't have the time, or won't make the time, to learn to use conventional poles correctly. And if you like them for other reasons, that's okay too, I suppose.

Nordic poles. I am not a Nordic walker, and don't have any experience here that might help. The poles themselves have specialised features to help with the Nordic walking technique, but those don't seem to me to stop them being used for other walking and trekking. I also note that they have some interesting specialised pole tips that people might find useful when bushwalking or trekking.

I clearly don't think poles are just poles, and I am no longer prepared to buy really cheap poles. That said, on my recent visits to Europe when I have visited a Decathalon, I have looked at their poles, and see no reason why their poles, even the cheapest, wouldn't be suitable for the camino.

* these are the boot shaped tip with a curved contact surface that allows the pole to maintain contact with the track surface as the pole moves further away from the vertical. They are great on concrete and asphalt surfaces, less so otherwise. I use them regularly when walking in towns and suburbs.

 

[Beeman]

Hi there fellow Peregrinos!

I will walk my first Camino in May 2025 and am slowly gathering my equipment. I have my boots that I've been hiking in and this pair seem to be good. I really want a pair of Trek Poles now as I am training on inclines and declines now. I went to REI last weekend and I just wasn't sure with the selection offered if they were the right poles for me, they all had very mixed reviews.

I was wondering if you could give me your reviews on the poles you've used? What you liked, what you didn't. Did they go the distance, did you use them just to climb or descend or to walk with daily.

I plan to walk the whole Frances so I will need poles that will stand the test, so to speak. I really appreciate your time and consideration.

I have pacerpoles and love them. 4 pair of black diamond poles lay around unused. I tried liking poles and found them wanting. Leki poles

 

[Joynz]

Re: transporting your poles on the plane as part of carry on. Have your doctor provide you with a note saying that the poles are necessary for proper balance. It doesn't have to be complicated. My note says simply 'to whom it may concern' and is printed on the clinic's stationary. Have I ever actually presented this note to a TSA screener? No. But it serves as back-up documentation if I am challenged. I just tell TSA that I have balance problems and the 'sticks' are a medical necessity. It is a rule: no walking sticks as carry on as they are considered to be 'sporting equipment', but it is a soft rule that allows discretion.

Do you really need the poles for mobility because you have a medically diagnosed balance problem so you can’t even get on/off the plane without them - or is this just an attempt to avoid having to check them?

 

[dick bird]

Can I suggest we keep away from the thorny topic of carrying poles on planes, at least on this thread?

 

[Robo]

My take on this is ...........

A good summary I think @dougfitz .

I use the 'mid range. Fizan twist lock poles. They work well and are light.
But I have split 3 or 4 mid sections over the years through overtightening.
Easily fixed with Gaffer tape whilst on Camino, but annoying.
I have since found a spare parts stockist in the US and have a fresh supply of mid sections!
Google 'Kavisio' if anyone needs them.
There seemed to be a global shortage of mid section spares for Fizan Compact 3 poles!

The poles are not 'that' strong, and I did bend one falling on it last year.
It just meant it would no longer collapse.
(no injury as I was holding them correctly!)

Just on the rubber tips. There are tips and there are tips!
Some seem to last about 20 kms and others 500 kms Plus.
I always carry spares.

Simplistically, I have found the 'harder' rubber last much longer.

Our Fizan Compact poles are 10 years old now and going strong.
They have quite narrow but comfortable straps.

But as with a lot of gear.......the 'new and improved' versions seem to use lower quality materials, noticeably in the handles and straps. One of the reasons I keep fixing them with spare parts rather than buy new poles. They now look so old and grubby, (see below) with painted stripes, reflective strips, and gaffer tape that hopefully no one takes them by mistake.........


PS,
I have another pair of Fizan with 'shock absorbers'.
I never use them.
They are much heavier and I'm not sure the shock absorbers really do much.

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• Robo
• Oct 16, 2024

Now 10 years old. Customised coloured bands for Pat and I. (Yellow and Pink) Reflective...

 

[LexKatherine]

Most poles, even cheap ones will last the entire distance.

Whether you want to pay for extra for particular features - lighter weight, cork handles, etc. is up to you.

I had never used poles before my first Camino so I ended up buying Pacer Poles because they have a unique grip which seemed to be "idiot proof".

Hiking, Walking & Trekking Poles | Pacerpole Walking System

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Pacer Poles are game changers, worth ever euro, dollar! Ask me how we know! We have used poles for years. It’s like driving a car without power steering and power brakes … yes that was a thing… and then driving a car with power both . Plus as you mature, get older, whatever , we found they save you and give you longevity and the ability to keep going ! IOHO

 

[LexKatherine]

I have walked 000s of kilometres with my Pacer Poles with no blisters.

They do take a few days or maybe more to get used to them, including synchronising the arms with your legs (Pacer Poles provide instructions although they can apply to all poles). Soon enough they feel like a natural extension to your arms.

Sometimes wearing thin gloves maybe useful for comfort (with all poles, personal preference), and gloves also reduce sunburn on your hands which maybe is also of interest.

Possibly your imagined feelings were premature.

Pacer poles are a game changer! We won’t go back to our Leki or Black Diamond. Check them out https://www.pacerpole.com/

 

[Joynz]

Pacer Poles are game changers, worth ever euro, dollar! Ask me how we know! We have used poles for years. It’s like driving a car without power steering and power brakes … yes that was a thing… and then driving a car with power both . Plus as you mature, get older, whatever , we found they save you and give you longevity and the ability to keep going ! IOHO

And they give you so much extra power when walking because the hand grips have little kick off ledges!

 

[Camino Chrissy]

I have posted this info on another thread...
"I have just returned from my 8th flight to Spain from the US and have walked 11 caminos. I only bring the "carry on" allowed size and never send anything below. I had over half of my telescoping style hiking poles taken away at security, so I eventually just bought cheap ones at Decathlon or a China Bazaar on arrival, and then left them before flying home. I know of forum members with expensive Black Diamond Z-poles, a "bungee style" who always bring them in their packs and never have had them confiscated to my knowledge.
I recently purchased a pair of an off brand similar style to "try" from Amazon for $40. They are lightweight, sturdy, come in a sturdy little bag and served me well with daily use in over 3+ weeks on my recent Camino. I stored them in one of my water bottle holders on the flights. No problems and no questions asked at security."
If interested, here is the information.

 

[dougfitz]

And they give you so much extra power when walking because the hand grips have little kick off ledges!

I'm trying to figure out where this extra power comes from. Are you comparing walking without poles or walking with conventional poles? What is about Pacer poles that generates this extra power?

 

[Joynz]

I'm trying to figure out where this extra power comes from. Are you comparing walking without poles or walking with conventional poles? What is about Pacer poles that generates this extra power?

I believe both. Definitely more power than no poles. But I think more power than standard poles with straps. The hand grips are moulded (and there is a left hand and right hand side). Where the heel/edge of the hand sits is a little ledge. When you walk with them, you walk a bit like a power walker or Nordic walker - you use your arms to push yourself forward by pushing back and against the ledge. It’s really hard to explain. They were designed by a physio and act as a very good extension of the arms.

 

[PiesIrlandeses]

The first thing I did after my Camino this year was to replace my disappointing Decathlon walking poles.

The Fizan Compact-3 poles that I now have, and have used on trails in Greece and Ireland, are a revelation. Highly recommended.

 

[Pilgrim9]

I was wondering if you could give me your reviews on the poles you've used...

I have used the same pair of collapsable Expedition Poles made by Pacemaker Stix on three long and two shorter foot pilgrimages. They are fine and still have many thousands of km of trekking left in them.

Usually (~98% of the time) I keep them collapsed and lashed together, and just carry them in one hand like a baton. They are very light so I hardly notice them. But when I need poles, I absolutely need them and there are no natural sticks or tree branches around. Examples: Wide, long, deep muddy pools the full width of the trail, with dense shrubbery on both sides, and a ~10 cm wide sloping not-really-dry edge on one side that can gingerly be walked on - if one has poles for balance. Or crossing a wide stream via a series of slippery stepping stones. Or encountering an aggressive dog. I have also used them to rig up a window covering in the ground floor room of a hostel that had no curtains.

For air transport I lash the pair of collapsed poles against the my-body-facing side of my external frame backpack, and tie the shoulder straps across them, then have the entire pack stretch-wrapped at the airport. The lashings are just long bootlaces that I keep tied to the poles permanently.

Bonus tip: I wrap a quite-long length of duct tape around each shaft just user the grips. When I need some tape to cover a hot spot on a foot, the tape is immediately available without needing to fuss with my pack. I just unwind what I need, tear it off, and apply to hot spot.

Expedition Poles

These classic trekking poles telescope from 27 - 54 inches, using patented flip-lock, fail safe, locking technology, so that they will accommodate people of all sizes. As is the case with all PaceMaker Expedition Poles, only the best materials are used, including superior 7075 "aircraft grade"...

www.pacemakerstix.com

 

[Tacey]

Hello,
On three previous Camino trips, I used Komperdell and put them into my backpack for transport. However, now I can't carry a backpack anymore, so am shopping for a pair that can collapse into about 40 cm for transport diagonally in a 21.5" carry-on. So far, I've found a set at MEC here in Canada.

 

[vasque]

Hi there fellow Peregrinos!

I will walk my first Camino in May 2025 and am slowly gathering my equipment. I have my boots that I've been hiking in and this pair seem to be good. I really want a pair of Trek Poles now as I am training on inclines and declines now. I went to REI last weekend and I just wasn't sure with the selection offered if they were the right poles for me, they all had very mixed reviews.

I was wondering if you could give me your reviews on the poles you've used? What you liked, what you didn't. Did they go the distance, did you use them just to climb or descend or to walk with daily.

I plan to walk the whole Frances so I will need poles that will stand the test, so to speak. I really appreciate your time and consideration.

Leki poles. Used them for 12 years. Four Caminos. Excellent.

 

[CTLawGal]

Hello,
On three previous Camino trips, I used Komperdell and put them into my backpack for transport. However, now I can't carry a backpack anymore, so am shopping for a pair that can collapse into about 40 cm for transport diagonally in a 21.5" carry-on. So far, I've found a set at MEC here in Canada.

I have two pairs of Leki, both fold into about 15" length

 

[Camino Chrissy]

It seems the key word, no matter the brand, for carrying them with you on the plane, is "folding" poles. The "telescoping" poles are always longer in my experience. No problem if you don't mind sending them below in the hold, otherwise it is a game of "maybe, maybe not" in bringing them in the cabin with you.

 

[dougfitz]

I believe both. Definitely more power than no poles. But I think more power than standard poles with straps. The hand grips are moulded (and there is a left hand and right hand side). Where the heel/edge of the hand sits is a little ledge. When you walk with them, you walk a bit like a power walker or Nordic walker - you use your arms to push yourself forward by pushing back and against the ledge. It’s really hard to explain. They were designed by a physio and act as a very good extension of the arms.

I don't think this explains this any more than your earlier explanation did. I agree with your observation that poles, pacer or otherwise, simply extend any force generated by your upper body (arms and shoulders) to the ground through the length of the pole. The ledge on the pacer pole handle seems to act in the same way as the strap on a conventional pole, if that is being used correctly, to stop one having to grip the handle to generate any downward force. More, it seems to me that poles are not normally used as levers to increase the force being applied to the ground. Any leverage is provided by the mechanics of your. shoulders and arms.

Sprung poles may initially absorb some of the force in compressing the spring, and restore most of that stored energy* as the spring expands, but won't generate any additional power not provided by your upper body.

Unless pacer poles are able to generate some efficiency in the way that your upper body generates the forces applied through the pole to the ground, not an argument that is made for them so far as I can tell, it seems that there wouldn't be any difference between conventional and pacer poles.

* edit to reflect remarks by @Pilgrim9 below.

 

[tomjane40]

Hi there fellow Peregrinos!

I will walk my first Camino in May 2025 and am slowly gathering my equipment. I have my boots that I've been hiking in and this pair seem to be good. I really want a pair of Trek Poles now as I am training on inclines and declines now. I went to REI last weekend and I just wasn't sure with the selection offered if they were the right poles for me, they all had very mixed reviews.

I was wondering if you could give me your reviews on the poles you've used? What you liked, what you didn't. Did they go the distance, did you use them just to climb or descend or to walk with daily.

I plan to walk the whole Frances so I will need poles that will stand the test, so to speak. I really appreciate your time and consideration.

I am a firm believer in Pacer Poles. https://pacerpole.com/ They have a very different hand grip than any I have seen, and are so comfortable to use. I have used them on every hike plus 2 Camino's and they simply don't wear out and make the hiking so much better.

 

[GroveMountain]

Thank you all for your input! So excited to be on this adventure

 

[Pilgrim9]

Sprung poles may initially absorb some of the force in compressing the spring, and restore it as the spring expands, but won't generate any additional power not provided by your upper body.

Retired Mechanical Engineering Technologist here. You have made excellent points and I certainly won't argue with someone who is correct.

One refinement: Ideally, sprung devices restore much of the potential energy that is stored within the spring, but generally cannot restore all of it. There are almost always unavoidable losses caused by dynamic friction between moving parts, and hysteresis losses within the [metal or rubber] spring itself. These losses convert kinetic energy into thermal energy (heat) which gets radiated away.

If the spring material is a compressed gas in a cylinder with a piston (common in e.g. hatchback lifts and bicycle shocks, etc.), the hysteresis losses in the gas might or might not be less than in a metal or rubber spring, but either way, there will be substantial friction between the seals and the cylinder. As above, dynamic friction converts kinetic energy into heat.

Another consideration is this: complexity is the enemy of reliability.

For those reasons, plus weight, I avoid sprung poles.

 

[Adie]

I cast my vote to add another for PacerPoles - 3 Caminos and other walks thus far, I’ve previously tried Leki’s, Black Diamonds, and sprung poles but have only used Pacerpoles on any walk/hime since initial purchase 8 years ago.

 

[GroveMountain]

@GroveMountain - one of the problems is that it's quite difficult to get those cheap Swissgear poles. You might have to do some serious homework locating them. I tried and failed when I was trying to get a pair fir my wife in anticipation of TMB (yes we went in July, but had to cut it short as she sustained an injury ).
These are mine: Swiss Gear Adjustable Telescoping... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0019IQ1WS?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share

and these are the ones I wound up getting fir her: Cascade Mountain Tech Trekking... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01055BZDA?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share

Mine are still going strong not through the tracks I've mentioned but also numerous hikes throughout US - parts of AT, Sierra Nevadas, The so called PA Grand Canyon to name a few and tons of local ones...
Never failed.... not once... hopefully will still accompany me on CF return roughly 2 years from now...

Good luck and Buen Camino

Hi CW, I've had an impossible time finding these, well, finding when searched for but always unavailable or out of stock when trying to buy. I wound up getting a pair of Lexi aluminum, telescoping poles. 5x what you paid but better than what most were going for and the reviews were stellar.

 

[GroveMountain]

I couldn't find pacer poles at the local REI's between where I live and 2 hours north....I went with a pair of Lexi Aluminum Telescoping poles. Under $100 with the smooth cork grips, which I liked better than the rough cork or that other squishy material. I didn't like the way either of the latter two felt.
Thank you all for your input.

 

[LexKatherine]

I cast my vote to add another for PacerPoles - 3 Caminos and other walks thus far, I’ve previously tried Leki’s, Black Diamonds, and sprung poles but have only used Pacerpoles on any walk/hime since initial purchase 8 years ago.

www.pacerpole.com for future reference. They are a game changer for us.

 

[dougfitz]

I couldn't find pacer poles at the local REI's between where I live and 2 hours north.

My recollection is that they are only sold through the online shop on the Pacer pole website.

 

[LexKatherine]

My recollection is that they are only sold through the online shop on the Pacer pole website.

True. www.pacerpole.com

 

[Camino Chrissy]

True. www.pacerpole.com

I saw imitation Pacer poles at a China Bazaar last spring in Salamanca, but still decided on the regular style poles I am so familiar with as I have no problem with my hands and wrists.

 

[trecile]

I saw imitation Pacer poles at a China Bazaar last spring in Salamanca, but still decided on the regular style poles I am so familiar with as I have no problem with my hands and wrists.

If the poles had handles that look like this, they are nothing like the ergonomic handles of Pacer Poles.

 

[Camino Chrissy]

If the poles had handles that look like this, they are nothing like the ergonomic handles of Pacer Poles.

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I have no idea either way because I've personally never seen a real Pacer pole.

 

[dick bird]

I couldn't find pacer poles at the local REI's between where I live and 2 hours north....I went with a pair of Lexi Aluminum Telescoping poles. Under $100 with the smooth cork grips, which I liked better than the rough cork or that other squishy material. I didn't like the way either of the latter two felt.
Thank you all for your input.

Buen camino! Now about those boots ... just kidding.

 

[bestfootforward]

I couldn't find pacer poles at the local REI's between where I live and 2 hours north....I went with a pair of Lexi Aluminum Telescoping poles. Under $100 with the smooth cork grips, which I liked better than the rough cork or that other squishy material. I didn't like the way either of the latter two felt.
Thank you all for your input.

Power on GroveMountain! Enjoy your Lexi poles and if you find they're not for you, you've got plenty of time to test drive other brands/types. Have fun preparing and Buen Camino!

 

[trecile]

I have no idea either way because I've personally never seen a real Pacer pole.

I just mentioned it because I wouldn't want people to think that they could buy poles that work like Pacer Poles at a China shop. While I love almost everything about my Pacer Poles I do wish that I could put the handles on poles that folded down smaller. Believe me, I have searched far and wide for such an item.

People have mentioned these poles from Decathlon as being similar because they have an angled handle, but again, it's nothing like the way that the Pacer Pole handgrips cradle your hand.

 

[GroveMountain]

Buen camino! Now about those boots ... just kidding.

LOL! I have been using a pair of Merrills, Moab3, mid, waterproof, in a men's size as they are made wider naturally and have room in the toe box for swelling. I haven't had any issues with hot spots but they are heavy and wondering if they might be too much boot for the time of year. I plan to start my hike from St Jean around May 18th. I have some research to do regarding weather patterns so the date may get pushed a week. Anyway..... any experiences around this time of year's weather would be greatly appreciated.

 

[GroveMountain]

A good summary I think @dougfitz .

I use the 'mid range. Fizan twist lock poles. They work well and are light.
But I have split 3 or 4 mid sections over the years through overtightening.
Easily fixed with Gaffer tape whilst on Camino, but annoying.
I have since found a spare parts stockist in the US and have a fresh supply of mid sections!
Google 'Kavisio' if anyone needs them.
There seemed to be a global shortage of mid section spares for Fizan Compact 3 poles!

The poles are not 'that' strong, and I did bend one falling on it last year.
It just meant it would no longer collapse.
(no injury as I was holding them correctly!)

Just on the rubber tips. There are tips and there are tips!
Some seem to last about 20 kms and others 500 kms Plus.
I always carry spares.

Simplistically, I have found the 'harder' rubber last much longer.

Our Fizan Compact poles are 10 years old now and going strong.
They have quite narrow but comfortable straps.

But as with a lot of gear.......the 'new and improved' versions seem to use lower quality materials, noticeably in the handles and straps. One of the reasons I keep fixing them with spare parts rather than buy new poles. They now look so old and grubby, (see below) with painted stripes, reflective strips, and gaffer tape that hopefully no one takes them by mistake.........


PS,
I have another pair of Fizan with 'shock absorbers'.
I never use them.
They are much heavier and I'm not sure the shock absorbers really do much.

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• Robo
• Oct 16, 2024

Now 10 years old. Customised coloured bands for Pat and I. (Yellow and Pink) Reflective...

Thank you Rob! I love this site, so many great stories and very useful information. Like "bring extra rubber tips" never occurred to me .... well, I did just buy my poles so no experience yet with them. I am taking them out this weekend to give them a go.