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My husband & I walked last year mid May. we took our phones(T-Mobile Samsung 2's)just for emergencies. We weren't planning to phone home. T-Mobile hooked us up in our home town before leaving. We had no problems. Oh, wait. There was one day I walked on ahead of the hubs and got lost, doubling back to try and find him. Big mistake. I pulled out my phone to call him. He didn't answer, of course. Couldn't hear it! Then another day my cousin in Los Angeles dialed me by mistake. I picked it up thinking it was an emergency. Not! What wonderful memories. Take your phone. you wont be sorry.Can anyone tell me what is the best and cheapest way to phone home to California? Are there phone cards I can purchase? Should I take my cell? I heard US cell phones don't work very well?
Thanks
I took an old unlocked quad-band GSM phone (not a smartphone) with this: http://www.simsforspain.com/Orange_Mundo.html
Calls back to the US were 1 cent per minute plus a 29 cent connection charge for each call (that's Euro cents, not US cents). Other charges are on the website linked above. I refilled the SIM card as needed in Orange stores in the larger cities. My smartphone at the time was an Android phone from Verizon, which could not be unlocked for use in Spain because it used CDMA technology, but I took it for use as a wifi device since the other phone didn't have that capability.
I posted on FB, but I will repeat it here: I switched to T-Mobile because it has unlimited data and text in Europe and it defaults to Wi-Fi for free calls if it can. Skype is good option also.Can anyone tell me what is the best and cheapest way to phone home to California? Are there phone cards I can purchase? Should I take my cell? I heard US cell phones don't work very well?
Thanks
If you have an unlocked cellphone, it will probably cost about the same to buy a Spanish SIM card as to buy a phone card, and you won't have to deal with the hassle of finding a pay phone (if they even exist anymore). I bought a SIM card from www.simsforspain.com before I left, and was able to make calls to the US for €0.01 per minute plus a €0.19 connection fee per call, although I see on their website the connection fee is now €0.29. The card I bought was http://www.simsforspain.com/Orange_Mundo.html. If you're only going to use the phone for once-a-week calls, you probably won't have to add minutes along the way.I see several posts about the difficulty of finding a phone to use if you choose not to bring a cell phone. Would there ever be a day that I would not be able to find a phone to call home? If so, do you know which regions/stages I should be aware of?
I've told my mother that I would call home once a week with the phone card I bought but that there may be a day or two lapse if I have difficulties finding a phone.
Greetings, I have done seven Camino's without a cell phone and now more than ever realize it is important to have a phone with you. Do you suggest buying an inexpensive cell phone in Spain for this purpose?For the low-tech peregrinos, here's what I have done on multiple occasions.
I bought a cell phone in 2000 for 25 E that came with 25E of phone time. Each year when I go back, I just get a new card, new phone number, and it works fine. I use that as an emergency back-up as well as for calling ahead in Spain to reserve places when that seems like a good idea.
For regular calls to the US, I either use the locutorios (I agree with mlcamino that the rates are usually very good) or buy a prepaid card that requires you to punch in numbers. There is a wide range in cards, the one I found to give the most minutes was Eurocity. (Some of these cards have daily fees, per call fees, etc, and it's hard to read the fine print -- the cards are always available at tabacalera shops, and the people working there usually have an opinion about the best cards for your particular calling destination).
If you use a phone card to call internationally, you will also find that you get a much better rate if you call from a private fixed landline. I have often found that small pension owners will trust me to use their phone and call home with the card. Another good option is the green and blue pay phones you find on the bar in many cafes -- not on the wall, these are regular phone units on the bar itself. That is a pay phone that is really a land line for the bar owner, I think, but whatever the set-up it certainly gives you much better rates.
Laurie
Hi, nathanael,Greetings, I have done seven Camino's without a cell phone and now more than ever realize it is important to have a phone with you. Do you suggest buying an inexpensive cell phone in Spain for this purpose?
Thanks will look into for upcoming Camino in 2016.Hi, nathanael,
The phone that I bought in Spain years ago still works fine. It just needs a new card every year. But I don't use it for wifi. If all you want is a phone that will make calls within Spain, this seems like the cheapest option to me. But I'm not a tech wiz by any means, so others may have better options. Buen camino, Laurie
I am behind you all the way, Lydia! wishing i could still use smoke signals !!Arn,
If I am using an Irish mobile phone would I need to put in 0034 before those two emergency numbers that you have quoted.
I know that to many this may seem a stupid question and indicates my lack of technology. I feel like a dinosaur reading this thread. I know you are all speaking English but I understand so little of it.
Lydia
What does the "unlocked" mean as to the phonesLast year I bought an unlocked non smart phone from Walmart, bought the SIM card at the Chamartin station Orange / phone store , got lots of free minutes , charged it up a couple of times and would call my hubby twice daily. VERY cheaply and I have loaned my phone a couple of times to other pilgrims going on their Caminos and no problems. I will take it again in Oct for the Ingles. I paid $25 for the Jenny phone from Walmart
I also switched to T-mobile for this reason. I haven't walked the Camino yet, but I've used it last year while on a Rhine river cruise through four countries, and also for a few weeks in Barcelona and Madrid.I posted on FB, but I will repeat it here: I switched to T-Mobile because it has unlimited data and text in Europe and it defaults to Wi-Fi for free calls if it can. Skype is good option also.
I am in Canada and I have bought plans to my provider, Freedom, that give me service from AT&T. I used a plan for calls and data in the US and another one called "go south" that gave me service in Mexico for calls and data. They worked great. It is the reverse of what you are asking but gives me the idea that AT&T plan for overseas will work for you.I plan to get an international plan through my local AT&T store here in Texas. I think it is about $35.00 a month. Does anyone have experience with just going through AT&T having then add an international plan for a few months to you normal account? Hope there is not a got ya since that is my plan.
From what I can see at the reference, it's good only if you have a spanish cell phone (SIM).
Landing in Spain with a North American cell phone, you would still be required to make a ''roaming call'', at a high cost, to piggy back on the proposed system.
In order to use the proposed card at a decent cost, the only option is to buy a Spanigh SIM card, if your phone is unlocked. That would increasing the cost of the operation, but never the less it remains a good option to consider.
Jean-Marc
Fine! thanks anyway. Notice my post is 7 years old. Things have evolved since. I have indeed used the Vodaphone option numerous times since and it works fine.Take your iPhone and buy a Spanish SIM card. I use Vodaphone. Rather than phone out, I get family to phone me, say after 6PM (9AM in Vancouver) when I have finished my walking day. That way there is not cost to me. This keeps use of the Spanish plan allowance for local calls.
Laurie, greetings your advice on cell phones, I have never walked with one in my 10 Caminos and think it's wise to get one. I just require it for emergency and to reserve. I will be in Madrid for three days before venturing on Camino de la Plata. what do you suggest in a simple cell phone? thanksFor the low-tech peregrinos, here's what I have done on multiple occasions.
I bought a cell phone in 2000 for 25 E that came with 25E of phone time. Each year when I go back, I just get a new card, new phone number, and it works fine. I use that as an emergency back-up as well as for calling ahead in Spain to reserve places when that seems like a good idea.
For regular calls to the US, I either use the locutorios (I agree with mlcamino that the rates are usually very good) or buy a prepaid card that requires you to punch in numbers. There is a wide range in cards, the one I found to give the most minutes was Eurocity. (Some of these cards have daily fees, per call fees, etc, and it's hard to read the fine print -- the cards are always available at tabacalera shops, and the people working there usually have an opinion about the best cards for your particular calling destination).
If you use a phone card to call internationally, you will also find that you get a much better rate if you call from a private fixed landline. I have often found that small pension owners will trust me to use their phone and call home with the card. Another good option is the green and blue pay phones you find on the bar in many cafes -- not on the wall, these are regular phone units on the bar itself. That is a pay phone that is really a land line for the bar owner, I think, but whatever the set-up it certainly gives you much better rates.
Laurie
It does not matter where you are calling if you have a decent connection, last year on the Frances I used my UK O2 phone on roaming and had a perfect 4 G signal almost everywhere along the route. As I was walking into Astorga I had an hour long video call with my wife just to show her the scenery, it was a particularly nice day and I felt a bit lonely as there were no other pilgrims, everyone seemed to vanish over the Easter weekend, the video was perfect over a 4km swalk in the hills.What's the latest in getting cell phone coverage for calls fromSpain/Portugal to North America? Actually, I'd be calling Hawaii.
You can download the Viber app either before you leave home, or once you are in Spain. You can choose to purchase the credits anytime and anywhere. I also use it to phone albergues, hostales, etc.Thanks, @trecile
I have been looking through the Viber website to see whether this might work for me to make calls to Canadian landline numbers from Spain. I do not know whether I could sign up for this service at these conditions (cost, etc.) after I arrive in Spain and have purchased a local sim card. I cannot find this information on the web site. As things are at present, I would only need to make these calls to sort out a problem with my Mastercard or to get approval for medical care in Spain from my insurance provider. Neither of these things has yet occurred, so it seems like an unnecessary expense and bother to set up and pay for something that I might never need. I have just been thinking about how I could make such a call from Spain using my Spanish sim card and phone plan, if the need arose. But I do not know how it could be possible to do so. I would appreciate it if anyone could inform me.
I shall think further about this. I think that Viber Out could be usable in the situations which I have described. The other uses of Viber seem to involve communication where both parties have the app, while I am thinking only of calls to Canadian land lines for particular purposes. Thanks again.You can download the Viber app either before you leave home, or once you are in Spain. You can choose to purchase the credits anytime and anywhere. I also use it to phone albergues, hostales, etc.
Another option is to make calls with Skype app and credits.
Neither option has nothing to do with whichever SIM card you have in your phone.
If you do have a Spanish SIM card in your phone you could use cellular data rather than wifi to make Viber or Skype calls.
Those are the kinds of situations that I use it.I think that Viber Out could be usable in the situations which I have described.
I always get a Spanish SIM card with a plan suitable for a month. I have used several providers - Vodafone, Lebara, etc. It is usually a plan designed for tourists. In each case, there has been a good allowance for calls (free, included in the plan) to many countries including Canada. For example, 60 minutes world wide. That serves me for the occasional call in Spain related to reservations, and the occasional call to landlines in Canada. Of course, if you end up needing to call your credit card company or bank or insurance provider and you are put on hold, those minutes disappear quite fast. But that 60 minutes was just an example - sometimes it is even more time. You just need to dial +1-Canada-number.I have no idea how to make a call to North America.
So now I see that I still do not understand this. When I have purchased phone service in Spain it included so many gigs of data and so much telephone time, but there was nothing that I could see in the contract about international calls. Perhaps I need to inquire about this when I make my next purchase. One hour of worldwide calls should be sufficient as insurance against problems which necessitate calling Canada. I understand the system of calling on my phone which starts with +1, but I have always seen a number as the next part of the code, not the name of the country. Am I missing something? I am determined to be able to do this, as it seems really stupid for me to be needing services and unable to access them because of ignorance as to how to make a phone call. My only defence is that both these companies (bank and insurer) tell me to call them collect, and give numbers to do so, but I don't know whether collect calling, in its traditional sense, still exists, or how I might access it in Spain.I always get a Spanish SIM card with a plan suitable for a month. I have used several providers - Vodafone, Lebara, etc. It is usually a plan designed for tourists. In each case, there has been a good allowance for calls (free, included in the plan) to many countries including Canada. For example, 60 minutes world wide. That serves me for the occasional call in Spain related to reservations, and the occasional call to landlines in Canada. Of course, if you end up needing to call your credit card company or bank or insurance provider and you are put on hold, those minutes disappear quite fast. But that 60 minutes was just an example - sometimes it is even more time. You just need to dial +1-Canada-number.
The last Camino I did (2018), the SIM card I got, alongside the data, texts and local calls, also included international calls. I was using Vodaphone and picked up my SIM in the Lisbon airport. For 20 euros it included: 5 GB data, 500 minutes or texts locally, 30 minutes or texts internationally (including Canada). You can see the details here: https://www.vodafone.pt/en/products-services/visiting-portugal.htmlSo now I see that I still do not understand this. When I have purchased phone service in Spain it included so many gigs of data and so much telephone time, but there was nothing that I could see in the contract about international calls. Perhaps I need to inquire about this when I make my next purchase. One hour of worldwide calls should be sufficient as insurance against problems which necessitate calling Canada. I understand the system of calling on my phone which starts with +1, but I have always seen a number as the next part of the code, not the name of the country. Am I missing something? I am determined to be able to do this, as it seems really stupid for me to be needing services and unable to access them because of ignorance as to how to make a phone call. My only defence is that both these companies (bank and insurer) tell me to call them collect, and give numbers to do so, but I don't know whether collect calling, in its traditional sense, still exists, or how I might access it in Spain.
@Albertagirl perhaps this is a question for your bank and insurer? I'm sure that the root of the problem is the blase assumption that all travellers are installed in Resort Hotels with flunkeys who will deliver a land-line telephone to your pool-side lounger - this despite the fact that everyone in the company from the MD to the call-centre operator will have a mobile phone. And, I'll assume they've insured you in full knowledge that you are actually hiking across rural Spain with not much more than two changes of undies in a back-pack. They should be providing you with a toll-free number that you can utilise from a mobile or a text number that you can use to alert them and receive a return call.My only defence is that both these companies (bank and insurer) tell me to call them collect, and give numbers to do so, but I don't know whether collect calling, in its traditional sense, still exists, or how I might access it in Spain.
I share in the confusion and uncertainty. I find that cell phone plans are confusing enough in my own country in my native language, so I don't expect more clarity in Spain!I still do not understand this.
The problem is that sometimes different toll-free numbers must be used to call from different countries. The banks probably decided that it was simpler all round, to accept collect calls, than to manage, update and communicate all the different numbers from every country.They should be providing you with a toll-free number
Yes it does. If you search on the internet you can find instructions, which I won't quote because I can't verify the details. I suspect that if you dialed 0, you would get an operator who could help. I believe I did it once a couple of years ago for a credit card problem.I don't know whether collect calling, in its traditional sense, still exists
Yes, that is what I meant. Just dial+1, followed by the Canadian number.I understand the system of calling on my phone which starts with +1, but I have always seen a number as the next part of the code
Yes. For example see this website for Vodafone Traveller. The basic plan for 20 Euros doesn't seem to have international calls, but if you scroll down, you can see a 5 Euro additional package "Europe + Morocco + USA Bundle" with 300 minutes of calling to many countries including Canada. Other phone companies often have similar plans. I think I used Movistar last time and it was cheaper.I expect Vodaphone in other European countries offers similar cards, as likely do their large competitors.
One other point... people in Europe don't use the phone text messaging as much as we do in Canada. I found that a few international texts used up my call credits very fast and unpredictably. Now I use only WhatsApp, phone or email when in Spaintexts internationally (including Canada)
I have certainly asked them and shall try to consult the bank again, if I can find adequate time before I leave for Mexico to fit in the half an hour or more wait before they answer the phone. I told the insurance agent yesterday that I don't believe that collect calls (to consult the insurer before getting medical care) still exist in most places. She expressed total indifference. I apologize for wasting the time of forum members with this issue, but it seems unwise to me to ignore it, so I have done what I can to sort it out. I am done with this.perhaps this is a question for your bank and insurer?
Not at all a waste. It is something that most of us have, or will, need to figure out - and the situation keeps changing.I apologize for wasting the time of forum members with this issue
In the 'old days' an internet cafe or locutorio would always be available. Not so much nowadays. If you have an unlocked phone you can always purchase a 'pay-as-you-go' chip from Orange or another service provider. As for calls home to panicking spouse....FB Messenger has worked well provided the WiFi is not too iffy...Can anyone tell me what is the best and cheapest way to phone home to California? Are there phone cards I can purchase? Should I take my cell? I heard US cell phones don't work very well?
Thanks
I have had no problem with Orange Mundo with my unlocked phone...albeit it takes a week...or two or three for my phone to stop thinking in Spanish once I get home. To add...I walked on the Camino Torres into Portugal....no problem.I have used various local sim cards over the years, and am still looking for a pre-paid service that (a) does not expire after 28 days and (b) is cross border.
On the promise that it would do both, on my last camino in Portugal I bought a Vodaphone sim. It practice it proved to be neither.