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Thank you, Paul. That will be me in late August '25.I arrived at lunchtime and immediately went out to check on the local geology. I have to say that I found it mind-boggling.
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That’s the local beach on the left. And behold! The flysch. This is the stuff that you walk over on the descent to Zubiri.
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That’s the Ermita San Telmo perched on near-vertical sheets of limestone.
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And again. I walked along the cliffs to the point at far right.
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Looking back towards San Telmo. The stripes are the truncated limestone layers. The diagonal line is the edge of the cliff. I had crossed over the safety line in the interests of science!
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This is looking towards the point.
In that case I strongly urge you to arrive Zumaia early in the day allowing time for the walk along the cliff top which the Camino obviously misses.Thank you, Paul. That will be me in late August '25.
Buen Camino
It’s easy to incorporate the Ruta del Flysch into your camino stage into Deba. Lots of discussion here.I strongly urge you to arrive Zumaia early in the day allowing time for the walk along the cliff top which the Camino obviously misses.
That was my question when I saw your thread title. You DID see it!K/T boundary
My only disappointment was that I couldn’t get down there and touch it because I missed the low tide.That was my question when I saw your thread title. You DID see it!
Oooooooooooo.
You'll just have to go back. A good excuse!My only disappointment was that I couldn’t get down there and touch it because I missed the low tide.
My friend tells me Zumaia has three Golden Nails for the geological treasures it holds.
I'm so pleased it is common knowledge locally. I wonder what we can do as pilgrims to encourage a signboard so that outsiders walking down there (all of us, IOW) know why it's so special. And why it's not paved.I told you in a pm that the Navarra people will not desecrate the descent to Zubiri. My contact is fairly high up in rank, and I believe him.
it's a beautiful place. indeed, the whole coast from hondarribia to deba is beautifulI arrived at lunchtime and immediately went out to check on the local geology. I have to say that I found it mind-boggling.
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That’s the local beach on the left. And behold! The flysch. This is the stuff that you walk over on the descent to Zubiri.
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That’s the Ermita San Telmo perched on near-vertical sheets of limestone.
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And again. I walked along the cliffs to the point at far right.
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Looking back towards San Telmo. The stripes are the truncated limestone layers. The diagonal line is the edge of the cliff. I had crossed over the safety line in the interests of science!
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This is looking towards the point.
Perhaps, write to the Oficina de Turismo in Pamplona, asking for a signpost? My contact is very aware of the geological value of the terrain, but also of the logistics of dealing with the solution to the problem of over-footing, and there is also the element of ownership of the land... it is in private hands, as I understand the situation.That is sooooo gorgeous. Thanks, Paul.
You'll just have to go back. A good excuse!
I'm so pleased it is common knowledge locally. I wonder what we can do as pilgrims to encourage a signboard so that outsiders walking down there (all of us, IOW) know why it's so special. And why it's not paved.
I’m going to get onto this when I get back. It’s likely that the Geoparkea might take it up. After all it’s the same stuff at Zubiri and they might see it as valuable publicity. They have really informative boards all over the place here.Perhaps, write to the Oficina de Turismo in Pamplona, asking for a signpost? My contact is very aware of the geological value of the terrain, but also of the logistics of dealing with the solution to the problem of over-footing, and there is also the element of ownership of the land... it is in private hands, as I understand the situation.
Nothing is as simple as it seems it might be. I can only repeat that I am assured that concrete will not be the solution.
Now, I think I have said what I can on the situation, and we can count on the excellent sense of savoire faire of the Navarra people with influence!
Chrissy, you’re not wrong making the comparison. It’s the same structural situation geologically. But the rocks are hundreds of millions of years older, and don’t alternate in hard/soft couplets like here. They’re all hard!Paul, I have enjoyed your research and all of the many photos you have posted on the flysches. I know this isn't a photo along the coast of the Norte nor the descent down to Zubiri, but I took this one lone photo on the way down to Molinaseca from El Acebo and thought it fascinating with its many ridges all lined up.
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So are Zubiri's flysches all "hard as rocks"? I don't remember although I've walked it twice.Chrissy, you’re not wrong making the comparison. It’s the same structural situation geologically. But the rocks are hundreds of millions of years older, and don’t alternate in hard/soft couplets like here. They’re all hard!
Excellent to hear. Don't mess with the path to Zubiri!!I know very little! Careful! My friend tells me Zumaia has three Golden Nails for the geological treasures it holds.
Paul, you will open treasure chests with your research. I told you in a pm that the Navarra people will not desecrate the descent to Zubiri. My contact is fairly high up in rank, and I believe him.
Ahhhh. That's the kind of deposit where the alabaster windows in churches (like Grañon) come from.They are beds of gypsum and alabaster
I wasn’t aware, but you are surely right. Just checked Wikipedia which says alabaster windows are common in medieval churches throughout northern Spain.Ahhhh. That's the kind of deposit where the alabaster windows in churches (like Grañon) come from.
WOW, that is sobering.This weekend a woman was rescued by police after the high tide blocked her in the rocks...
If you really want to do a walk in the Flysch you should be careful with the tides, think about doing it when the low tide is arriving at his maximum, can be a dangerous experience if you don't pay attention.
I'd do it from Zumaia, walking in the Flysch is not easy and will take you time. When arriving at Aitzuriko Punta where Mirador Mendatagaina is, is better to walk up and follow the Camino de Santiago trail until Deba.
https://www.noticiasdegipuzkoa.eus/...ata-mujer-atrapada-flysch-zumaia-8392572.html
... and thank you, @Rebekah Scott , for your English translation of that book!Zumaia has a long Camino history, too. You can read a local boy's take in "The Great Westward Walk," the book begins in Zumaia, the author's home town.
Thank you for such a beautiful pics, when I passed by last May, it was pouring rainI arrived at lunchtime and immediately went out to check on the local geology. I have to say that I found it mind-boggling.
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That’s the local beach on the left. And behold! The flysch. This is the stuff that you walk over on the descent to Zubiri.
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That’s the Ermita San Telmo perched on near-vertical sheets of limestone.
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And again. I walked along the cliffs to the point at far right.
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Looking back towards San Telmo. The stripes are the truncated limestone layers. The diagonal line is the edge of the cliff. I had crossed over the safety line in the interests of science!
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This is looking towards the point.
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