Wanderwoman2
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Thats a good idea, i do tend to push through to the destination as though i have a dealine to get there. Idk why! I think its pre-programming.It sounds as if you may be very tired. Have you considered booking a night in a private room somewhere? A chance to catch up on your sleep. I don't like to take a whole day off walking myself but perhaps a rest day somewhere? By now you should have a clearer idea of the distance you are comfortable walking each day. I do not like stopping at lunchtime which seems to be the norm these days. On average I walk about 30km per day and I prefer to stop walking in late afternoon. If you book a bed for the night the previous day or early in the morning you can reduce the "bored until bedtime" experience by walking for longer without the fear of finding yourself without a bed.
You might even try to ship your backpack a day or two so you have another experience of the Camino.Hello,
I am currently about 12 days into my journey on the Camino Frances. The begining week was amazing, full of adrenaline, adventure, new people, beautiful places and i thought, this is the best thing I've ever done. Week 2 has been a struggle for me to even answer why am I doing this? I don't sleep well in the Albergues, then everyday feels like a push to the next destination only to get there and be bored until bedtime and then a poor night's sleep only to do it all again. Everyone says this is the most amazing experience and I just feel like I'm struggling or missing something. It feels more like work. Has anyone had a similar experience that can offer any guidance, suggestions or insight? Thank you.
This can hapoen, and it may simply be a matter of walking through the low patch.
only to get there and be bored until bedtime
It's not a race. Treating it as some kind of performance challenge is bound to make you miserable.Thats a good idea, i do tend to push through to the destination as though i have a dealine to get there. Idk why! I think its pre-programming.
Ugh, yes! It hit me in Logroño! I have taken 2 days in Burgos to have private rooms and do all that you suggested. It felt really nice to do nothing for a day.Hey Ww2, this can happen. It seems to hit quite often around Logrono.
How much time do you have - is there a flight in 25 days you have to make, or can you kick back a bit?
If you can, take a day or two off - wash everything, have a big meal in the middle of the day, chat with whoever is running the place you are staying at, talk to some folks back home, do some stretching.
And when you get going again, as others above have suggested, you could mix it up a bit: book a couple of nights of private rooms to catch up on sleep. A booking ahead will allow you to start naughtily late, meander around at half pace, taking macro pics of the flowers, arranging heart shapes of pebbles on the path, or whatever takes your fancy, knowing you don't have to hurry on to arrive in time for a bed. Good luck.
Thanks, I'm an introvert too and have had all this uninterrupted time with myself which isn't always good for me. I will take your suggestion and try to approach others. I did this in the beginning and found it such an important lesson that I need other people and others can ease the burden of hard times by a huge amount! But then when i get back inside my head, it becomes harder again to reach out to new people.Hi @Wanderwoman2 You are not alone with these feelings, for sure. I had plenty of ups and downs on my first camino - solo. And later caminos for that matter. Lot of good suggestions above, but in particular I can relate to this from @VNwalking ...
and this from @LTfit 'give yourself a few more days and see where it leads you. You may decide to stop, but then again you may also find a reason to continue that rings true to you. Give yourself that time. See it as a gift to yourself'
Also, in relation to times when you are feeling bored, maybe you are going through a patch where you don't have company and would like some.
I'm more an introvert than otherwise, but there were times when I felt a little too 'alone' (this happened sometimes at the end of a day's walking when I saw other small groups of 2 or 3 having an afternoon apero or eating dinner together). After a few occasions feeling like this, I summoned all my courage and approached a group - 'would you mind if I joined you?'. I was never turned down and often enjoyed great company for that evening, and sometimes in the days that followed.
Wishing you bon courage and buen camino.
So now you are ready to hit the Meseta. Now you will have 10 easy days of walking in peace to Leon, well rested!Ugh, yes! It hit me in Logroño! I have taken 2 days in Burgos to have private rooms and do all that you suggested. It felt really nice to do nothing for a day.
I know exactly what you mean! I loved my solo Caminos. I don’t need or want people around me all of the time, but too much alone time is also not good for me. Deep breaths and bon courageothers can ease the burden of hard times by a huge amount! But then when i get back inside my head, it becomes harder again to reach out to new people.
I agree. But the concept seems to have taken on a life of its own. Some years ago I read a post - it might have been on Facebook - from someone who asked if you were allowed to choose your own Camino family or if you were assigned one in SJPDP...The "Camino Family" bit is a little overhyped IMO.
This is like the questions about the "infrastructure" of the Camino and why there are not public toilet facilities and about systems of albergues etc. It is hard when people don't have any experience and when we don't have clear understanding, we all try to fill in the gaps with things that are familiar. It is why we on the forum are here to help clarify as much as possible even when the questions are repetitive. I remember being that newbie and having the same fears and questions...I agree. But the concept seems to have taken on a life of its own. Some years ago I read a post - it might have been on Facebook - from someone who asked if you were allowed to choose your own Camino family or if you were assigned one in SJPDP...
A day or two in private accomodations can do a lot for the spirit.Ugh, yes! It hit me in Logroño! I have taken 2 days in Burgos to have private rooms and do all that you suggested. It felt really nice to do nothing for a day.
Ok, so, after doing some processing, I've realized that I THOUGHT I liked to stop and smell roses, but it turns out in practice I actually don't, I'm very driven to get to the goal and get that sense of accomplishment, but this journey thwarts me because there really isn't a reward at the end of the day, just an albergue and another day's walk. And being driven day after day just wears you down. I love hiking, but i realized that I usually go hard and fast to the top of the mountain then feel that sense of accomplishment when i get down and I'm worn out. I'm actually finding it hard to...chill? Lol. And stay in the moment. Even when i stop for a break, 5 minutes and I'm up and let's go. So that's one thing this journey is showing me and I'd like to learn to let go of.A day or two in private accomodations can do a lot for the spirit.
Also, if you can make a friend or two, you often can book a private room for 2 or 3 people for the same price each of you would pay for an albergue. Sleeping with 2-3 people in a room is much more restful. Apartments are another choice if you can make some friends to share with.
I have to say that after last spring, I thought I'd never walk again. It's taken me a full year to even begin to consider going back to Spain and if I do, probably not until NEXT season. So yeah, I understand. When I got to Santiago last trip I was so disheartened, I gave away my ALTUS poncho and a lot of my other gear because I was "done!"
Be gentle with yourself. Go slower. Stop and smell the roses!
Buen Camino!
Week 2 has been a struggle for me to even answer why am I doing this?
Thank you! That is encouraging! I feel like what I've really encountered on the Camino is myself and not the "happy me on vacation" self (which i fully expected), but the real self I live with everyday. I know there will be so much I learn from this experience if I stick with it and make adjustments and find accomodations that suit me. Thanks for the encouragement and understanding.Sometimes the "amazing experience" feeling doesn't show up until after.
Camino can be boring, dull, and uneventful. Hopefully not for long (multi-day) stretches. There were moments when I was very bored, and I love walking. I found cool flowers, too many gross worms and flies on the Meseta, too many neat rocks that if I wasn't already carrying a heavy pack I would have collected, weird trees, random birds to occupy my little monkey brain and keep me walking if I was having a bad day.
I'd recommend staying in private accommodation if you can, sleeping relatively well is incredibly important. I personally found that if I didn't sleep, I couldn't eat and if I couldn't eat or sleep I could not walk. And all the minor annoyances, like pointy rocks on the path, annoyed me more than they should. I don't sleep well at the best of times, so I stayed in private rooms to minimize the stresses of other people.
I'm prepping for my next Camino (where I am sure I will be mostly alone most days) and I am reminding myself daily that sometimes boredom is inevitable. It is work, in that your daily schedule is walk, eat, sleep, day after day until you get to Santiago. Sometimes it's tedious.
I have missed Camino every. single. day. since I finished. I long for it. I need to see a tiny church tower pop up in the distance, far ahead of me, and a town coming into view with the promise of a cold beverage and a chair. The joy of finding out the room I have booked for the evening has a bathtub for me to soak in. The Buen Caminos, nods and smiles from the beautiful people as I walk. I miss it all.
Take a day or two off and reevaluate it all. You've already walked further than many people who walk Camino from Sarria or Tui (I am not denigrating anyone for doing that, we don't all have the luxury of weeks to walk), soyou have accomplished something. You wanted to walk Camino and you have walked Camino.
I hope you find peace in whatever you decide. Spain is gorgeous and there are tons of interesting things to see and experience. Buen Camino, Peregrino!
After the high comes the dip eh! Adrenaline highs not good long term anyway, your body is readjusting to these... Remember the excitement at the beginning, remember your goal, stick with it as this low too will pass. If boredom a thing waiting for bedtime, go to bed early to get better sleep, write your memoir, talk with other pilgrims, these strategies, as an elder, worked miracles for me...been CaminoHello,
I am currently about 12 days into my journey on the Camino Frances. The begining week was amazing, full of adrenaline, adventure, new people, beautiful places and i thought, this is the best thing I've ever done. Week 2 has been a struggle for me to even answer why am I doing this? I don't sleep well in the Albergues, then everyday feels like a push to the next destination only to get there and be bored until bedtime and then a poor night's sleep only to do it all again. Everyone says this is the most amazing experience and I just feel like I'm struggling or missing something. It feels more like work. Has anyone had a similar experience that can offer any guidance, suggestions or insight? Thank you.
Perfectly normal experience. Some days can seem like a totally unrewarding slog and ‘Remind my why I’m doing this?’ has passed my lips more than once.Hello,
I am currently about 12 days into my journey on the Camino Frances. The begining week was amazing, full of adrenaline, adventure, new people, beautiful places and i thought, this is the best thing I've ever done. Week 2 has been a struggle for me to even answer why am I doing this? I don't sleep well in the Albergues, then everyday feels like a push to the next destination only to get there and be bored until bedtime and then a poor night's sleep only to do it all again. Everyone says this is the most amazing experience and I just feel like I'm struggling or missing something. It feels more like work. Has anyone had a similar experience that can offer any guidance, suggestions or insight? Thank you.
Thanks! Thats a very kind offer. I'll look you up when I'm in the areaIf you like, stop in at Peaceable Kingdom when you get to Moratinos. You can hang out here and talk about it all, or not. And you can sleep in our high-gravity pilgrim room, which might just put you right. No charge.
In the words of those famous philosophers Wallace and Gromit "It's just a bit of harmless brain alteration, thats all...". The Camino has a way of showing you to yourself, sometimes in a seemingly ruthless way. The medicine doesn't always taste good, but it is definitely good for you.Ok, so, after doing some processing, I've realized that I THOUGHT I liked to stop and smell roses, but it turns out in practice I actually don't, I'm very driven to get to the goal and get that sense of accomplishment, but this journey thwarts me because there really isn't a reward at the end of the day, just an albergue and another day's walk. And being driven day after day just wears you down. I love hiking, but i realized that I usually go hard and fast to the top of the mountain then feel that sense of accomplishment when i get down and I'm worn out. I'm actually finding it hard to...chill? Lol. And stay in the moment. Even when i stop for a break, 5 minutes and I'm up and let's go. So that's one thing this journey is showing me and I'd like to learn to let go of.
I'm an observer and a sympathizer but not a walker myself, with an interest in psychology, and a traveller...here's something that came to mind when I read about your reactions to the camino:After the high comes the dip eh! Adrenaline highs not good long term anyway, your body is readjusting to these... Remember the excitement at the beginning, remember your goal, stick with it as this low too will pass.
The Camino is fine but you have travelled a long way to be here but there’s a million better things to do in Europe snd 50+ different countries to enjoy. Great food, wine, sport, music. If I was from a other continent I would ask myself why I was confining myself to this activity and not branching out and doing something more interesting!Hello,
I am currently about 12 days into my journey on the Camino Frances. The begining week was amazing, full of adrenaline, adventure, new people, beautiful places and i thought, this is the best thing I've ever done. Week 2 has been a struggle for me to even answer why am I doing this? I don't sleep well in the Albergues, then everyday feels like a push to the next destination only to get there and be bored until bedtime and then a poor night's sleep only to do it all again. Everyone says this is the most amazing experience and I just feel like I'm struggling or missing something. It feels more like work. Has anyone had a similar experience that can offer any guidance, suggestions or insight? Thank you.
I shall give you a story: I have walked many Caminos and met many struggling firsttimers. I remember one in particular. A mid aged Australian, on his first day out from Burgos (I had walked from Pamplona). He asked a lot of questions about the Camino, and, from what he told me about his background, I told him:Thank you! That is encouraging! I feel like what I've really encountered on the Camino is myself and not the "happy me on vacation" self (which i fully expected), but the real self I live with everyday. I know there will be so much I learn from this experience if I stick with it and make adjustments and find accomodations that suit me. Thanks for the encouragement and understanding.
I always get a private room every 7to10 days.Hello,
I am currently about 12 days into my journey on the Camino Frances. The begining week was amazing, full of adrenaline, adventure, new people, beautiful places and i thought, this is the best thing I've ever done. Week 2 has been a struggle for me to even answer why am I doing this? I don't sleep well in the Albergues, then everyday feels like a push to the next destination only to get there and be bored until bedtime and then a poor night's sleep only to do it all again. Everyone says this is the most amazing experience and I just feel like I'm struggling or missing something. It feels more like work. Has anyone had a similar experience that can offer any guidance, suggestions or insight? Thank you.
Hi Wanderwoman2, I hope you have enjoyed your time in Burgos and that your days there have given you what you need right now. In May '22, I connected a few times with a peregrina who shared she was having a difficult time. She expressed similar sentiments to yours. "This is not what I thought it would be." We sat next to each other one evening at Mass and when Mass was over, she turned to me with tears in her eyes and a huge smile on her face as she joyfully told me "I'm going home!"Hello,
I am currently about 12 days into my journey on the Camino Frances. The begining week was amazing, full of adrenaline, adventure, new people, beautiful places and i thought, this is the best thing I've ever done. Week 2 has been a struggle for me to even answer why am I doing this? I don't sleep well in the Albergues, then everyday feels like a push to the next destination only to get there and be bored until bedtime and then a poor night's sleep only to do it all again. Everyone says this is the most amazing experience and I just feel like I'm struggling or missing something. It feels more like work. Has anyone had a similar experience that can offer any guidance, suggestions or insight? Thank you.
I am so happy I did not know about the Camino family concept when I walked the FrancésI agree. But the concept seems to have taken on a life of its own. Some years ago I read a post - it might have been on Facebook - from someone who asked if you were allowed to choose your own Camino family or if you were assigned one in SJPDP...
Yes, I think you are way over tired. Maybe you need to just have a bit of fun. On my 10th day in 2016 I slept in and just goofed off eating pulpo and having vino blanco which is very mild. BUEN Camino. You got this.Hello,
I am currently about 12 days into my journey on the Camino Frances. The begining week was amazing, full of adrenaline, adventure, new people, beautiful places and i thought, this is the best thing I've ever done. Week 2 has been a struggle for me to even answer why am I doing this? I don't sleep well in the Albergues, then everyday feels like a push to the next destination only to get there and be bored until bedtime and then a poor night's sleep only to do it all again. Everyone says this is the most amazing experience and I just feel like I'm struggling or missing something. It feels more like work. Has anyone had a similar experience that can offer any guidance, suggestions or insight? Thank you.
"When you arrive in Santiago you will be crying". He didn't answer, but he sticked to me the whole way into Santiago. Impossible to get rid of him
I agree. But the concept seems to have taken on a life of its own. Some years ago I read a post - it might have been on Facebook - from someone who asked if you were allowed to choose your own Camino family or if you were assigned one in SJPDP...
Sounds like overtraining is causing stress levels to go through the roof. Once your sleep after a long day of hiking does not last even 7 hours, then you know that the issue is getting out of hand.Hello,
I am currently about 12 days into my journey on the Camino Frances. The begining week was amazing, full of adrenaline, adventure, new people, beautiful places and i thought, this is the best thing I've ever done. Week 2 has been a struggle for me to even answer why am I doing this? I don't sleep well in the Albergues, then everyday feels like a push to the next destination only to get there and be bored until bedtime and then a poor night's sleep only to do it all again. Everyone says this is the most amazing experience and I just feel like I'm struggling or missing something. It feels more like work. Has anyone had a similar experience that can offer any guidance, suggestions or insight? Thank you.
Pretty much all of us.Has anyone had a similar experience
This a great insight.Ok, so, after doing some processing, I've realized that I THOUGHT I liked to stop and smell roses, but it turns out in practice I actually don't, I'm very driven to get to the goal and get that sense of accomplishment, but this journey thwarts me because there really isn't a reward at the end of the day, just an albergue and another day's walk. And being driven day after day just wears you down. I love hiking, but i realized that I usually go hard and fast to the top of the mountain then feel that sense of accomplishment when i get down and I'm worn out. I'm actually finding it hard to...chill? Lol. And stay in the moment. Even when i stop for a break, 5 minutes and I'm up and let's go. So that's one thing this journey is showing me and I'd like to learn to let go of.
Ok, so, after doing some processing, I've realized that I THOUGHT I liked to stop and smell roses, but it turns out in practice I actually don't, I'm very driven to get to the goal and get that sense of accomplishment, but this journey thwarts me because there really isn't a reward at the end of the day, just an albergue and another day's walk. And being driven day after day just wears you down. I love hiking, but i realized that I usually go hard and fast to the top of the mountain then feel that sense of accomplishment when i get down and I'm worn out. I'm actually finding it hard to...chill? Lol. And stay in the moment. Even when i stop for a break, 5 minutes and I'm up and let's go. So that's one thing this journey is showing me and I'd like to learn to let go of.
You'll have your ups and downs. I remember times feeling terrible, trudging through the rain and mud for instance. Then I met some pilgrims who offered me some chocolate- 'manna from heaven'.Hello,
I am currently about 12 days into my journey on the Camino Frances. The begining week was amazing, full of adrenaline, adventure, new people, beautiful places and i thought, this is the best thing I've ever done. Week 2 has been a struggle for me to even answer why am I doing this? I don't sleep well in the Albergues, then everyday feels like a push to the next destination only to get there and be bored until bedtime and then a poor night's sleep only to do it all again. Everyone says this is the most amazing experience and I just feel like I'm struggling or missing something. It feels more like work. Has anyone had a similar experience that can offer any guidance, suggestions or insight? Thank you.
Would you consider NOT letting go of your driven-ness and instead wondering about how you might harness it? Maybe it's something to hold on to and even augment. Maybe it would help if one day you set a bigger-than-usual goal that you need to strive for...perhaps walk a marathon day or until close to sundown.Ok, so, after doing some processing, I've realized that I THOUGHT I liked to stop and smell roses, but it turns out in practice I actually don't, I'm very driven to get to the goal and get that sense of accomplishment, but this journey thwarts me because there really isn't a reward at the end of the day, just an albergue and another day's walk. And being driven day after day just wears you down. I love hiking, but i realized that I usually go hard and fast to the top of the mountain then feel that sense of accomplishment when i get down and I'm worn out. I'm actually finding it hard to...chill? Lol. And stay in the moment. Even when i stop for a break, 5 minutes and I'm up and let's go. So that's one thing this journey is showing me and I'd like to learn to let go of.
This is a good point. I know that after my 2016 Camino with my son, I would like to remind him of the high points but I didn't tall much about the low points, not wanting to bring back painful memories. Quite the opposite, he told me. He liked to remember the low points because he was also remembering how he overcame them.Lots of great advice listed here, and thanks to the OP for posting this, as clearly it has resonated with lots of people.
My own personal suggestion is to "embrace the suck". I know from many years of travel that the low periods are often the most memorable, and in retrospect you appreciate how that low period was actually necessary in order to reach the high points. Sometimes the contrast is required.
Embrace the good and the bad, because oftentimes the "bad" is just well-disguised good, which becomes clear in hindsight.
It is said that the second week the mind can takeover and makes walking a struggle then the third week you move past that... Possibly a few nights in private accommodation may help. No need to rush for a bed, some good sleep, and time to rest with no-one around you. Buen Camino don't give up, remember why you went. Take your time.Hello,
I am currently about 12 days into my journey on the Camino Frances. The begining week was amazing, full of adrenaline, adventure, new people, beautiful places and i thought, this is the best thing I've ever done. Week 2 has been a struggle for me to even answer why am I doing this? I don't sleep well in the Albergues, then everyday feels like a push to the next destination only to get there and be bored until bedtime and then a poor night's sleep only to do it all again. Everyone says this is the most amazing experience and I just feel like I'm struggling or missing something. It feels more like work. Has anyone had a similar experience that can offer any guidance, suggestions or insight? Thank you.
And the questions back at home: "what size group do you usually go with?" "2"This is like the questions about the "infrastructure" of the Camino and why there are not public toilet facilities and about systems of albergues etc. It is hard when people don't have any experience and when we don't have clear understanding, we all try to fill in the gaps with things that are familiar. It is why we on the forum are here to help clarify as much as possible even when the questions are repetitive. I remember being that newbie and having the same fears and questions...
I walked my first Camino alone. Over the 800km I probably met no more than 30 other pilgrims. On many days I saw no others and had the refugios to myself. When I got home a friend asked if I was lonely during my walk. At first I could not even understand the question. The idea of being lonely had never once crossed my mind. Some things are hard to explain to others who do not have an experience in common.And the questions back at home: "what size group do you usually go with?" "2"
our friend is boggled at this.
I still remember, on our first camino (Frances) when we got to, um that nice vegetarian albergue just before Sarria, and DH looked at the map in the guidebook, and thought for a bit, and said "about a week left." I had adapted to the life of wake, pack the bag and roll out, eat around 9:30 or so, walk walk walk, and then stop for the night. I was in shock when he said we weren't going to keep doing this FOREVER. We kept going, we got to Santiago, we visited Salamanca and then stopped in Madrid waiting for the date on our return ticket...This a great insight.
I think for many the Camino is a lesson in finding fulfillment in the task, rather than the achievement, in the moments along the way. Because it is hard to find that sense of accomplishment along the way. Unless you are doing a really short Camino, progress is just so gradual. It's just day after day and you just find yourself in the next village, seemingly not much closer to Santiago. (The sense of this is even greater on the meseta.)
And then one day you wake up and find yourself a day or two out of Santiago. And then you are there. And that is when the real sense of accomplishment may hit. And it can be even stronger because of the long buildup. Or maybe you are walking on to the coast and you don't feel the sense of accomplishment yet until you are looking out over the Atlantic and there is no more west to walk. That was where my son found his accomplishment. I can't count the number of times he asked during the tough journey "Why dio people do this? And who would possibly want to do it again?" Yet a few months after we came back he was nostalgic and saying he'd like to do it again.
But you don't get that validation really until the end. Until you get there, you need to find something to sustain yourself. It could be establishing routines. It could be community. It could be in continuing to see the beauty around you. Navarre doesn't have a monopoly on beauty in Spain. It is there throughout the journey if you are ready to appreciate it.
If you persevere, I am confident that you can walk past this, as many other have. Just keep putting one foot in front of the other. Eventually you will get there. Literally and figuratively.
Hi I walked the camino in 2016 and will leave in a week to do it again. I feel like I did it like you and it was a chore then I decided to slow down and enjoy instead of rushing to the next stop, it made it more amazing and I really enjoyed it. Can’t wait to start again in a week.Hello,
I am currently about 12 days into my journey on the Camino Frances. The begining week was amazing, full of adrenaline, adventure, new people, beautiful places and i thought, this is the best thing I've ever done. Week 2 has been a struggle for me to even answer why am I doing this? I don't sleep well in the Albergues, then everyday feels like a push to the next destination only to get there and be bored until bedtime and then a poor night's sleep only to do it all again. Everyone says this is the most amazing experience and I just feel like I'm struggling or missing something. It feels more like work. Has anyone had a similar experience that can offer any guidance, suggestions or insight? Thank you.
Hello! Thanks for checking in. So I've been really practicing mindfulness in my walking, trying to take in the sensory experience and stay in the moment. C Mindfulness is wild! You can completely transcend time and kms for little stretches. I have sent my pack ahead and tried to book more private rooms and remote hostels (like san bol). I like that with the reservation I can tell myself that i have time to rest, detour, slow down to walk with a companion. The first day I had to tell myself that I was stopping for an hour for lunch and couldn't get up until 2! The full rest periods really help. And with a reservation I can walk farther and leave later knowing that I have til 4 or whenever to get there. Previously, i'd be up at 5:30 (couldn't sleep) and on the move before sunrise, if I stopped, I'd see 20 people pass me and jump up to keep booking it to get to the next spot by 1 or 2 to get a spot. It's a real practice to not let myself look at how much farther I have to go and just walk through each moment and landscape, but it's going good and I feel much better! Grateful for all the suggestions and commiserationHi Wanderwoman, How are you holding up? Thinking of you, hope you are well.
So its funny, but all the signs have little graffiti tags that seem to have statements for exactly where I'm at when I pass them, from "Walk baby" to "Why?" to "The camino gives you what you need, not what you're looking for" to "Who am I really?" to "Present. Here. Now." I feel like I'm going through phases and stages that have been travelled before!I had a bit of similar struggles on my first camino, maybe not so strong.
Afterwards, i stumbled across a theory called the "3 stages of the camino". Body phase, mental phase, spiritual phase.
Guess, if you want to follow this theory, you are in the mental phase. You've proven yourself that you are able to do it and now sometimes you doubting the "why". At least that's what it was to me. In the end i walked all the way and to this day i am happy i did it. You may come to a different conclusion, or to the same. I wish you all the best
Example explaining the "3 stage theory" (but google will find more): https://medium.com/@gideonnielsen/t...s-of-the-camino-de-santiago-life-e13845a58123
Success! Well done. On my first Caminos I found I was rushing to each destination and then being very antsy over the long afternoons. I solved that by booking ahead and taking long lunches. On one afternoon, as I bounced around restlessly, I noticed another pilgrim in the same state. However she sought out the owners and offered to help them clean etc. I soon did the same and got to know the host. I have since returned to the same Albergue and have been welcomed as a live in volunteer. Sometimes boredom leads to good things.Hello! Thanks for checking in. So I've been really practicing mindfulness in my walking, trying to take in the sensory experience and stay in the moment. C Mindfulness is wild! You can completely transcend time and kms for little stretches. I have sent my pack ahead and tried to book more private rooms and remote hostels (like san bol). I like that with the reservation I can tell myself that i have time to rest, detour, slow down to walk with a companion. The first day I had to tell myself that I was stopping for an hour for lunch and couldn't get up until 2! The full rest periods really help. And with a reservation I can walk farther and leave later knowing that I have til 4 or whenever to get there. Previously, i'd be up at 5:30 (couldn't sleep) and on the move before sunrise, if I stopped, I'd see 20 people pass me and jump up to keep booking it to get to the next spot by 1 or 2 to get a spot. It's a real practice to not let myself look at how much farther I have to go and just walk through each moment and landscape, but it's going good and I feel much better! Grateful for all the suggestions and commiseration
Ahhh so happy you are doing better. Buen camino (for the body and the soul).Hello! Thanks for checking in. So I've been really practicing mindfulness in my walking, trying to take in the sensory experience and stay in the moment. C Mindfulness is wild! You can completely transcend time and kms for little stretches. I have sent my pack ahead and tried to book more private rooms and remote hostels (like san bol). I like that with the reservation I can tell myself that i have time to rest, detour, slow down to walk with a companion. The first day I had to tell myself that I was stopping for an hour for lunch and couldn't get up until 2! The full rest periods really help. And with a reservation I can walk farther and leave later knowing that I have til 4 or whenever to get there. Previously, i'd be up at 5:30 (couldn't sleep) and on the move before sunrise, if I stopped, I'd see 20 people pass me and jump up to keep booking it to get to the next spot by 1 or 2 to get a spot. It's a real practice to not let myself look at how much farther I have to go and just walk through each moment and landscape, but it's going good and I feel much better! Grateful for all the suggestions and commiseration
I spent about every 5th night in a hostale,No, it doesn't sound like you're missing anything.
This can hapoen, and it may simply be a matter of our own room and bathroom. Very refreshing. walking through the low patch.
And. If you're feeling rushed, and pressured to stop before you feel ready to...that's not the point of wslking a camino.
In order to stay flexible without having empty afternoins, try stopping in pueblos between the ones that are mentioned in guidebooks as stage ending: you can often find restful accommodation just a few kms one side or the other of the bigger towns.
And see how you feel after a night in a single room. Many private albergues have these, a huge blessing.
Thanks for the suggestions! Walking later into the day has been a good idea that i've been implementing.So march to your own drummer. That would be my advice. I, like you am an introvert. I prefer my own company, but do talk to others when I want to. I walk my own camino, my own way. After all it's your camino. I like you tried to keep up with people on my first time, then I realised that most of those people were carrying a day sack and i was rocking a full pack, plus they were all stick thin and I am well, not. So the second time I walked, I did it my way and ignored what others were doing.
My typical walking day is get up at 6am, start out at 7am, walk until lunchtime at 1pm. Then have an hour or so for lunch, which normally involves me finding a local shop, buying some cheese and green veg, then finding a bench and chilling out. Then I walk until 7-8pm and find somewhere to sleep for the night. Have a couple of beers, catch up on anything internet wise / emails / etc. Go to bed at 10pm and start over 8 hours later. Once I get into my routine, it is pretty much automatic. Half of the camino is finding your own routine and pace. Some days are just not good at all, some days are train wreck level. On those days walk 10km. Noisy albergues are another reason i prefer to camp.
One of my pet peeves was if you had windows open, people would shut them, even if you were on the second storey of an apartment building. So the dorms were always too hot at night (another reason for a tent).
As others have mentioned, getting a single room or similar once in a while should help, or earplugs and a eye mask. if you walk long everyday, you will sleep well, for a good 6-8 hours.
On a side note of sorts, look out for Playa Fluvial signs or on google maps (a beach or swimming pool, somewhere to take a dip). There are a few littered along the path. One I've used can be found at Molinaseca but it can be a bit cold off season. If you have time when you get to Santiago, take a bus down to Ourense for a day or two and hit the hot springs for some R&R before you head home.
I recall seeing some pilgrims walking until quite late and wondered why. Did you have problems finding a place to stay if you turned up at 8pm and aren't some places already full and or staff finished for the day?So march to your own drummer. That would be my advice. I, like you am an introvert. I prefer my own company, but do talk to others when I want to. I walk my own camino, my own way. After all it's your camino. I like you tried to keep up with people on my first time, then I realised that most of those people were carrying a day sack and i was rocking a full pack, plus they were all stick thin and I am well, not. So the second time I walked, I did it my way and ignored what others were doing.
My typical walking day is get up at 6am, start out at 7am, walk until lunchtime at 1pm. Then have an hour or so for lunch, which normally involves me finding a local shop, buying some cheese and green veg, then finding a bench and chilling out. Then I walk until 7-8pm and find somewhere to sleep for the night. Have a couple of beers, catch up on anything internet wise / emails / etc. Go to bed at 10pm and start over 8 hours later. Once I get into my routine, it is pretty much automatic. Half of the camino is finding your own routine and pace. Some days are just not good at all, some days are train wreck level. On those days walk 10km. Noisy albergues are another reason i prefer to camp.
One of my pet peeves was if you had windows open, people would shut them, even if you were on the second storey of an apartment building. So the dorms were always too hot at night (another reason for a tent).
As others have mentioned, getting a single room or similar once in a while should help, or earplugs and a eye mask. if you walk long everyday, you will sleep well, for a good 6-8 hours.
On a side note of sorts, look out for Playa Fluvial signs or on google maps (a beach or swimming pool, somewhere to take a dip). There are a few littered along the path. One I've used can be found at Molinaseca but it can be a bit cold off season. If you have time when you get to Santiago, take a bus down to Ourense for a day or two and hit the hot springs for some R&R before you head home.
Sometimes it just feels hard. There is some really good advice in the thread above. I’ve benefited from a combination of lots of the things advised- in particular, taking a night in a room by myself to recharge, walking shorter days, and / or seeking out some company when I’ve had too much time alone. I found the camino to be a bit like life at times- sometimes it seems harder than it should, for no apparent reason, and sometimes there are reasons it feels hard. For me it helped to just keep going (albeit whilst taking some extra measures to care for myself a bit more), and then enjoy the sense of the difficulty having passed, when it does (which it always seemed to do).Hello,
I am currently about 12 days into my journey on the Camino Frances. The begining week was amazing, full of adrenaline, adventure, new people, beautiful places and i thought, this is the best thing I've ever done. Week 2 has been a struggle for me to even answer why am I doing this? I don't sleep well in the Albergues, then everyday feels like a push to the next destination only to get there and be bored until bedtime and then a poor night's sleep only to do it all again. Everyone says this is the most amazing experience and I just feel like I'm struggling or missing something. It feels more like work. Has anyone had a similar experience that can offer any guidance, suggestions or insight? Thank you.
When I walked with my family, one of my sister question the whole journey why she was doing it and sobbed at the end that it was over. If you can afford it get private rooms so that you can rest properly. You can book ahead. That way you don't have to worry about missing out on a bed or hot water or whatever. It will mean though that you miss some of the comradery, so maybe mix it up.Hello,
I am currently about 12 days into my journey on the Camino Frances. The begining week was amazing, full of adrenaline, adventure, new people, beautiful places and i thought, this is the best thing I've ever done. Week 2 has been a struggle for me to even answer why am I doing this? I don't sleep well in the Albergues, then everyday feels like a push to the next destination only to get there and be bored until bedtime and then a poor night's sleep only to do it all again. Everyone says this is the most amazing experience and I just feel like I'm struggling or missing something. It feels more like work. Has anyone had a similar experience that can offer any guidance, suggestions or insight? Thank you.
how do you find a 5 star menu del dia? I will drop my pack for one of those. what is the trick to finding them?my thing is finding great places along the Way with 5 star menu del dia, it is hard to find anyone who shares that passion and is willing to drop their backpack just any ol' where to stay the night in some random village just because they found a fine meal in the middle of the day, but that's me.
My trick is to hike fast, hard and long each day, so then every meal feels like 5 starshow do you find a 5 star menu del dia? I will drop my pack for one of those. what is the trick to finding them?
Hey - I’m an introverted/extrovert (if that makes any sense?). I’m a bit shy but crave company. I found the experience of opening up to people to be difficult for me on in the beginning of my first Camino because of fear of being rejected and getting out of my comfort zone.Thanks, I'm an introvert too and have had all this uninterrupted time with myself which isn't always good for me. I will take your suggestion and try to approach others. I did this in the beginning and found it such an important lesson that I need other people and others can ease the burden of hard times by a huge amount! But then when i get back inside my head, it becomes harder again to reach out to new people.
I rather enjoyed your initial post so honestly describing your stress and boredom. You took the advice of others and found your rhythm and, YOUR camino.Hello! Thanks for checking in. So I've been really practicing mindfulness in my walking, trying to take in the sensory experience and stay in the moment. C Mindfulness is wild! You can completely transcend time and kms for little stretches. I have sent my pack ahead and tried to book more private rooms and remote hostels (like san bol). I like that with the reservation I can tell myself that i have time to rest, detour, slow down to walk with a companion. The first day I had to tell myself that I was stopping for an hour for lunch and couldn't get up until 2! The full rest periods really help. And with a reservation I can walk farther and leave later knowing that I have til 4 or whenever to get there. Previously, i'd be up at 5:30 (couldn't sleep) and on the move before sunrise, if I stopped, I'd see 20 people pass me and jump up to keep booking it to get to the next spot by 1 or 2 to get a spot. It's a real practice to not let myself look at how much farther I have to go and just walk through each moment and landscape, but it's going good and I feel much better! Grateful for all the suggestions and commiseration
I had a couple 20 mile days, but it was actually a 12 mile that had me in doubts. As someone else added, get a private room, and for me, journal. It helped me clear my head and see my thoughts. It is work and I cussed out each rise on the path. I have a reason to be here and that pushes me. Remember, it’s one step at a time, take breaks, and it’s ok to yell. Buen CaminoHello,
I am currently about 12 days into my journey on the Camino Frances. The begining week was amazing, full of adrenaline, adventure, new people, beautiful places and i thought, this is the best thing I've ever done. Week 2 has been a struggle for me to even answer why am I doing this? I don't sleep well in the Albergues, then everyday feels like a push to the next destination only to get there and be bored until bedtime and then a poor night's sleep only to do it all again. Everyone says this is the most amazing experience and I just feel like I'm struggling or missing something. It feels more like work. Has anyone had a similar experience that can offer any guidance, suggestions or insight? Thank you.
I know what you mean. But on the Via Francigena, I am kinda comparing it with the Camino and thinking I’d rather be on my way to Santiago, not here in Northern France heading to Italy. Here’s the musings from a week ago: https://readingtheroad.com/2023/04/17/on-french-soil-assailed-by-doubts/Hello,
I am currently about 12 days into my journey on the Camino Frances. The begining week was amazing, full of adrenaline, adventure, new people, beautiful places and i thought, this is the best thing I've ever done. Week 2 has been a struggle for me to even answer why am I doing this? I don't sleep well in the Albergues, then everyday feels like a push to the next destination only to get there and be bored until bedtime and then a poor night's sleep only to do it all again. Everyone says this is the most amazing experience and I just feel like I'm struggling or missing something. It feels more like work. Has anyone had a similar experience that can offer any guidance, suggestions or insight? Thank you.
It sounds like you have enjoyed your Caminos in spite of being a shy guy.Hey - I’m an introverted/extrovert (if that makes any sense?). I’m a bit shy but crave company. I found the experience of opening up to people to be difficult for me on in the beginning of my first Camino
Everyone has tough days when they question what they’re doing! Mine came in Pamplona when the pain from my blisters became unbearable. I balanced albergue dorm rooms with a private room every 4th day, took “rest days” in the main centres where I spent the day being a tourist. Hang in there..Hello,
I am currently about 12 days into my journey on the Camino Frances. The begining week was amazing, full of adrenaline, adventure, new people, beautiful places and i thought, this is the best thing I've ever done. Week 2 has been a struggle for me to even answer why am I doing this? I don't sleep well in the Albergues, then everyday feels like a push to the next destination only to get there and be bored until bedtime and then a poor night's sleep only to do it all again. Everyone says this is the most amazing experience and I just feel like I'm struggling or missing something. It feels more like work. Has anyone had a similar experience that can offer any guidance, suggestions or insight? Thank you.
Nope, but I don't walk in the busy season either. Generally i walk September/October. I have never come to an albergue that was full so far. In fact, probably a good 20% of them were empty, as in I was the only pilgrim there. This was especially so on the second year when I attempted to walk from Ourense. The only albergues that had pilgrims in were the Ourense and Dozon municipals. The night after Dozon, I stayed in Lalin and was the only one there. Then the night after I stayed at Bandeira Municipal and was once again the only one there, except for the lady working the desk that night. I'm sure this wouldn't be the case if you walked in high summer.I recall seeing some pilgrims walking until quite late and wondered why. Did you have problems finding a place to stay if you turned up at 8pm and aren't some places already full and or staff finished for the day?
listen to what Bradypus says book a room and possibly take a day or two of rest days and after the rest days see ho it goes.It sounds as if you may be very tired. Have you considered booking a night in a private room somewhere? A chance to catch up on your sleep. I don't like to take a whole day off walking myself but perhaps a rest day somewhere? By now you should have a clearer idea of the distance you are comfortable walking each day. I do not like stopping at lunchtime which seems to be the norm these days. On average I walk about 30km per day and I prefer to stop walking in late afternoon. If you book a bed for the night the previous day or early in the morning you can reduce the "bored until bedtime" experience by walking for longer without the fear of finding yourself without a bed.
Thank you for your honesty - I will embark in SJPDP on 4-26…I’m taking pictures of my US Midwest yard this morning & am filed with wonder and excitement. Your post touched my heart and tells me I need to prepare for this too. Thank you for sharing - i think for me I’ll need to keep in mind why I am doing this Camino, and why now, and refer to my list of gratitude for God bringing me safely to this point. Peace and Buen CaminoHello,
I am currently about 12 days into my journey on the Camino Frances. The begining week was amazing, full of adrenaline, adventure, new people, beautiful places and i thought, this is the best thing I've ever done. Week 2 has been a struggle for me to even answer why am I doing this? I don't sleep well in the Albergues, then everyday feels like a push to the next destination only to get there and be bored until bedtime and then a poor night's sleep only to do it all again. Everyone says this is the most amazing experience and I just feel like I'm struggling or missing something. It feels more like work. Has anyone had a similar experience that can offer any guidance, suggestions or insight? Thank you.
The Camino helped me get to that point. Now I’m taking improv and storytelling classes and performing both. I owe something to the Camino for this!It sounds like you have enjoyed your Caminos in spite of being a shy guy.
By the look of your Avatar picture, you seem very much like an exrovert who is at ease and comfortable speaking in front of people.
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