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Hi pilgr,
Perhaps your route could be Tembleque, Mora, Toledo, in 2014 I went that route and spent the night at Hosta Agripano in Mora, which left about 30 Kim's into Toledo.
Regards
George
Hi pilgr,
Perhaps your route could be Tembleque, Mora, Toledo, in 2014 I went that route and spent the night at Hosta Agripano in Mora, which left about 30 Kim's into Toledo.
Regards
George
Hi pilgr,
Just shows you how inaccurate various sources can be in regard to distance, ie mundicamino 31kms, viewranger gpx 33kms, google maps 36 kms, wikiloc gpx 39kms, amigos 40kms, which is right ??
In Toledo I stayed in the hostel in the castle in the outskirts of the city, not the best location but good facilities.
Regards
George
where did u stay in Timblinky?Hi pilgr,
Just shows you how inaccurate various sources can be in regard to distance, ie mundicamino 31kms, viewranger gpx 33kms, google maps 36 kms, wikiloc gpx 39kms, amigos 40kms, which is right ??
In Toledo I stayed in the hostel in the castle in the outskirts of the city, not the best location but good facilities.
Regards
George
Hi pilger,
I stayed at Hotel A Posada, its on booking.com at £30 with breakfast, when I arrived in the village, I had a quick look round and decided I deserved a bit of luxury.(its on the main road)
You will find an arrow on a post at the begining of Calle Hospital, and a tile on the wall of the shop opposite called "El Capricho Manchego" next to the church.
Regards
George.
Hi pilgr,
Just shows you how inaccurate various sources can be in regard to distance, ie mundicamino 31kms, viewranger gpx 33kms, google maps 36 kms, wikiloc gpx 39kms, amigos 40kms, which is right ??
In Toledo I stayed in the hostel in the castle in the outskirts of the city, not the best location but good facilities.
Regards
George
Hi all Levante veterans, I’m trying to get my head around the options for the last few stages into Toledo. Can anyone clarify distances for these optional stages please (and identify if I’ve misunderstood routes). I have various figures in my notes (oops)
Opt A: Tembleque-Villa de Bogas-Almonacid de Toledo (? km) then next day Almonacid de Toledo-Nambroca-Burguillos-Toledo (? km)
Opt B: Tembleque-Villa de Bogas-Mora (?km) then next day Mora-Macaraque-Almonacid de Toledo-Nambroca-Burguillos-Toledo (?km)
I guess there is inflation in Spain, because it was 35€ for me. Unfortunatly, the casa rural was sold out. There is a "cheese" hotel 2km back toward Villacaña on the carraterra for 28€. The hotel I am staying has a bathtub which my bones were dearly grateful!
Where do you guys recommend staying in Mora???
In Toledo? (Peregrina2000, does albergue have sheets and blankets? I am not sure I have the energy to walk to the plaza today. Google 'translator' says 'Cheese Hotel')
Thanks!
VERY basic is right, although there was a bit of cardboard that I put over a bench and slept on with my sleeping sack (key from the caretaker of the poli next door). A Valencian pilgrim who was there a day or two earlier claimed there were cockroaches, but I didn't see any.Almonacid de Toledo's Albergue is in the changing rooms of the municipal swimming pool, 4 loos, 6 showers w hot water, VERY basic Free
Hi Laurie,Hi, grace, this is one of those Levante questions whose answer seems to change all the time. …..Mora to Toledo is LONG. …...there are few moments more magical as when you come upon the view across the river of Old Toledo. It is just amazing. So that magical view made up for all the pain -- kind of like childbirth, as soon as the baby is born you forget all the suffering you went through.
Let us know what you decide! Laurie
Wow, pilgr, that suggests that things have changed. My notes say it was a "marvellous walk" and that is certainly not what you described. Did you go through Villanova de Bogas? Maybe that's the difference, but it certainly sounds like you did not have a lot of fun today. Where are you staying? Hang in there, pilgr!The Camino de Levante from Tremblinque to Mora, you MUST have the kml files. The waymarking is sparse to non-existent, especially after 3 hours walking. There is semi-mountainous terrain starting half-way in. Plus there is walking on the highway where large trucks are going in excess of 100kmh only feet away. I would call this definitely dangerous. In fact, I would advise pilgrims NOT to take this route due to the poor waymarking and stretches on the freeway. Instead do the flat Surestre route from Tremblique through Almonacid.
Wow, pilgr, that suggests that things have changed. My notes say it was a "marvellous walk" and that is certainly not what you described. Did you go through Villanova de Bogas? Maybe that's the difference, but it certainly sounds like you did not have a lot of fun today. Where are you staying? Hang in there, pilgr!
Los Consejos "The Rabbitts" hostalThanks for the detail @pilgr. Something for me to be aware of in June (if I get that far and if the wonderful Vieirigrinos haven’t been out with their yellow paint).
I hope you’ve rested up in Mora.Are you staying in Hostal Agripano or Pension Toledano ?
I am trying to collect a credencial in Valencia today (24 March) but I don't know the address of the amigos. I have seen a number of references to their opening hours, but I cannot see the address in the various posts.
Can anyone help me, please?
Try contacting the Valencia Amigos --
Dr. Gil y Morte, 24-1º-3ª
46007 Valencia
Tel.: 96 385 99 82
Fax: 96 313 01 79
info@vieiragrino.com
I think they are only open on Friday evenings though.
Here is a thread that says no credenciales are available in the cathedral. That was my impression as well. https://www.caminodesantiago.me/community/threads/recent-camino.26572/
Near the train stationCalle Gil y Morte, n 24
Just where this streey croises The San Vicente streey, on The way
Wr open in one hour
Ser you soon
Thanks everyone for helping me find the Amigos' address so speedily + an extra special thank-you for @JLWV who provided a really great service (as did his very friendly colleagues) when I arrived at the Amigo office.
Sorry I was not online, but you can always count on mspath to help out!
But, wait a minute, this is really going to make forum history, @Sheffield James, if we have THREE "live from the Camino" posts going at once with Levante pilgrims!!! You have to start your own thread now, and let us know how it goes for you. Buen camino!!! Laurie
Sounds like 'total gridlock' ahead !!James will not walk alone, after him we received a couple from Alaska who starts to morrow, slowly at the beginning, and other couple of northamericans, bikers, with three children!
That's exactly the situation about "albergue" in Almonacid de Toledo. If still needed I can provide mobile phone number of the caretaker there.Good idea pilgr. We’re waiting to see what you come up with
By the way, I have the following albergue in my notes but no reference as to where I read it or the dateIt probably won’t suit if you don’t have a sleeping bag.
Almonacid de Toledo's Albergue is in the changing rooms of the municipal swimming pool, 4 loos, 6 showers w hot water, VERY basic Free
Good to catch up with all this - and Buen Camino to those walking. I walked in 2009 and met no pilgrims until Zamora. A great Camino.
Could I respectfully suggest people buy and carry the Guide? As well as supporting the Amigos, it has lots of useful information on accomodation.
Andy
That's exactly the situation about "albergue" in Almonacid de Toledo. If still needed I can provide mobile phone number of the caretaker there.
I am all about co-locating useful info such as a guidebook. However, I am viscerally against having to carry a heavy guidebook. Perhaps if there is an electronic version, that would make sense to me.
As to supporting the Amigos (assuming it means supporting the efficacy of the Camino de Levante), I like the idea of an individual peregrino sponsoring a signpost on the camino. That would be a great way of raising funds if that what is needed. My sponsored signpost would be located halfway between Trimblique and Mora, a replacement for this one (see pic).View attachment 32741
I'm heading to Almansa tomorrow @JLWV, so thanks for the update about the flooding. I'll check out Pilgr's advice after I've done some snorkel shopping here in La Fonte de Figuera.To all people who will begin this way soon: some of the Amigos were yesterday checking the flooded área near Almansa, and it looks like it will stay flooded more time, so read again what told Pilgr about how to pass it.
Buen camino
James, looking forward to your ‘live from’ posts. Will you start a new thread?I'm heading to Almansa tomorrow @JLWV, so thanks for the update about the flooding. I'll check out Pilgr's advice after I've done some snorkel shopping here in La Fonte de Figuera.
@gracethepilgrim, I hope to post something on a new thread over the weekend. It makes no sense to disrupt the flow of pilgr's excellent 'live' reports.James, looking forward to your ‘live from’ posts. Will you start a new thread?
Thanks for the good information, Pilg. I'm in Valencia now. Two rest-tourism days and off I go.
Grace, I am a dog-phobe but I don't remember any loose dogs at all on the Levante.Thanks Matt. You commented on loose dogs - were there many on the Levante? I’m debating whether to take my walking pole with me (I only use 1) Cheers Grace
Comments: San Martin to Cebreros
I ended up walking an additional 6k today as a result. I tried cutting back onto the Camino from the carreterra but got turned back by loose dogs. Finally I found Camino Real which I took from the carreterra back onto the Camino!
Thanks Matt. You commented on loose dogs - were there many on the Levante? I’m debating whether to take my walking pole with me (I only use 1) Cheers Grace
I came across a large beast of a dog on the road not long after leaving Almansa. As quickly as I could I scrambled over a concrete wall, only to find it sauntered past without a care in the world. Seconds after I'd scrambled back over the wall, an Alsation and a cross-breed came running from the same direction. There was absolutely no way I could do it a second time, so I stood my ground and prepared for the worst. Thankfully, they had as little interest in me as the first dog and they simply ran past and off down the lane. I always carry one pole with me to fight off the perros + am just relieved it wasn't called into action on this occasion. Apart from this, all other dogs seen during my first week have been on leads or behind chain link fencing, or similar.Thanks Matt. You commented on loose dogs - were there many on the Levante? I’m debating whether to take my walking pole with me (I only use 1) Cheers Grace
This areas was very muddy when I walked at the beginning of March and it has rained and snowed since. At one point I had to climb over a wall with a fence on top as the whole camino was awash but after I climbed back, about 50 metres further on, the whole walk improved, the worst part is the first 3-4 kms after crossing the N403. Not long after that the path becomes semi-paved and is completely dry.Comments: San Martin to Cebreros
This estapa is only 17.2km according to Amigos. The first 5km is next to the carreterra. Then it goes onto a trail.
I had serious mud problems along the beginning of the trail stretch. There are periodic streams of water coming out of the mountainside where the trail is. I don't know if the water is there all the time, if there are natural occuring springs, as it has been almost a week since it rained. In addition, motorcycle tracks have torn up the earth to make a swamp like effect to walk through. I tried navigating through multiple areas of this thinking it might be short lived. The mud was deep and thick enough I didnt want to tackle it after about 1-2km.
Finally, I back tracked to another carreterra thinking I would walk on this to Cebrerros. This is where the carreterra brushes the camino at about 6km. Initially I got on the carreterra to cross one of the streams going over the camino but under a bridge for the carreterra. I was to discover there is no shoulder to walk on and many blind curves. Even so, I walked for about 3-4km on the carreterra with no other option I could think.
I ended up walking an additional 6k today as a result. I tried cutting back onto the Camino from the carreterra but got turned back by loose dogs. Finally I found Camino Real which I took from the carreterra back onto the Camino!
Oh, wow, pilgr, are you in the albergue in Avila? Going to spend a rest day there? The best views of the walls are actually very close to the albergue. Just cross the bridge and turn right. Can't believe you are already in Avila. Glad you had good mountain walking days.
Hola MattCebrerros to Avila: Absolutely breath taking views of mountain ranges etc. Very peaceful pasture walking while also walking through evergreen forest. Definitely a physical challenge as you are climbing over 1000meters in total, as you climb two mountains. The net gain is 400m.
Waymarking was excellent!
If you are going to walk the total 38k, I would definitely suggest packing a good lunch as there are just a few bars on the way and no telling if they will be open.
Do you know of any towns before Gotarendura to stock up at a store or restaurant? Thank you!Hola Matt
In a former message about this area I used the word "prairie" where you speak about "pasturage" . I understand yours is the right word. Thank you for improving my English and by the way correcting the information.
This was my preferred area in the way, nicest one, but it is only my opinion.
About Avila, I got there the same day as an other Spanish pilgrim, but I didn't see him in the albergue "las tenarias", at the exit of the city. Later when I saw him again he told me he didn't know this albergue and stayed in a youth albergue at the entry of the city. So, for general information, there are two albergues in Avila.
Next step use to be Gotarrendura. Be aware there are no shop in this village, and when I passed the only bar closed at 7PM, which is very unusual in Spain. Buy food before arriving. The albergue is nice.
Buen camino
Yes, the lady in charge of the bar, as other inhabitants in Gotarrendura, was very polite with us, but there was a problema of horary. She made a meal for mi at 6PM, and for the other pilgrim who used to eat much later she prepared ''bocadillos''.
Yes Cardeñosa is a village on the way with 500 inhabitants. Must have some shop.
Later Peñalva de Avila is smaller, only 100 inhabitants,
When Don and I passed through G town in '14 the drill was to 'phone the town hall on the morning of arrival, arrive, check in at the town hall and collect key, cross the road to the bar and arrange a time and menu for dinner.
The albergue was close by in a "cultural" centre with kitchen and washing machine.
Regards
George
PS See posts in this section re directions and photos for sports hall albergue in Arevalo
going from Gotarendura to Arévalo, I meet in the Wood this "cow boy". Not exactly a St James pilgrim, but crossing Spain from Asturias to Malaga by horse.
I didn't ask. I suppose his luggage, may be some camping gear. I don't know how he manages for accomodations. Buen caminoI feel bad for the horse. That guy is about the size of me! His horse should get the compestella. What was his other horse carrying?
Well, you are headed to one of the nicest cities in Spain, whether or not you are preserving the Sureste. I think you will love the Sanabres, it's terrific! I bet Kinky also encouraged you to avoid the Benavente-Astorga leg and turn left at Granja de Moreruela.I am in Medina del Campo tonite. After consulting with @KinkyOne , I am headed to Zamora. He suggested something about maintaining the integrity of the Levante by finishing it. His suggestion about doing this in order to perserve the Sureste for some later camino didn't really resonate with me.
Well, you are headed to one of the nicest cities in Spain, whether or not you are preserving the Sureste. I think you will love the Sanabres, it's terrific! I bet Kinky also encouraged you to avoid the Benavente-Astorga leg and turn left at Granja de Moreruela.Buen camino, pilgr, hard to believe how far you've come while I've been sitting at home looking at my computer! Buen camino, Laurie
I had a very hearty meal in Bar Brillante next door to Ayuntamiento. Nice owners too. The lady owner even stopped her car by the curb in Nava del Rey and offered me a ride. I turn down the offer but promised to pay a visit later on in their bar. Very pleasant evening talking to them. Extremely friendly prices for the quality of food also!I made it today to the Six Churches town from Medina del Campo. The phone number to the mayor/albergue located at the Ayutimiento is 605 792 807 and it is 3€. The room has heat!
I stayed at the Convent in Medina del Campo. No heat . 10€ Suggested "donation."
Thanks! After thinking I would crash and burn, I was able to make it. Yes, I am taking Sunday descansar!Congratulations Matt - enjoy a day off in Zamora. Lovely albergue and delightful town.
Exactly on that stretchCould it have been between Villalbo and Villalazan? That is the only stretch I chose to stick to the carreterra to knock off a few minutes.
Congratulations Matt - enjoy a day off in Zamora. Lovely albergue and delightful town.
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