Lone Peak 5 - Sizing?

[LesBrass]

Those who know me will be aware of my quest for the perfect shoe and my battle with blisters. I felt that over the years I've settled with Lone Peak trail shoes - I get the odd blister but generally these work for me. In real life I buy a ladies shoe - size 41 (eu) - for a Lone Peak I buy a mans shoe in an 44 (eu). I've no idea why shoe sizes vary so much but the Lone Peak in a 44 seems to have been my staple now since 2016.

I'm hoping to go walking again soon and I felt it was high time to buy a new pair... so I ordered the Lone Peak 5 in a 44. As soon as I put them on I knew they would be too big. I compared the insoles and there is at least 0.5 cm or more difference... but worse than this they are also narrower. This is really bad news for my enormously wide feet!

I checked on a few sites and it appears that Altra now offer the Lone Peak in wide and normal widths but guess what... they're not for sale in europe.

Has anyone else managed to try a wide pair? If I buy from the US I have to pay considerable import taxes and I don't want to do this is they are going to be the wrong size?

Feeling rather deflated... I hate buying new shoes

 

[ranthr]

Have you tried Hoka shoes. They are broad/ wide and since I have tried both female and male sizes, they seem to be alike, unlike other brands where size european 42 is unlike for men and woman. I usually buy male shoes but in Hoka I have both kinds.

 

[Isca-camigo]

I was told by Northern Runners in Newcastle that the LP5 wide would not be available in the UK until September at the earliest,which is about a week too late for me. I tried becoming a member on the US company REI and having them shipped to my address, they seemed ok with some parts of my order but not the LP5, as soon as I tried to purchase they said not available for shipping, I could have got the Olympus4 shipped by them but I was only testing to see what orders they were comfortable with sending and not. I have seen some images of the LP5 wide and they look proper wide and deep, perfect for my feet.

 

[BombayBill]

I have had LPs 3-5. I haven’t noticed much difference. This I managed to get some Olympus 4s. IMHO they fit similar to the LP.

 

[Isca-camigo]

I have had LPs 3-5. I haven’t noticed much difference. This I managed to get some Olympus 4s. IMHO they fit similar to the LP.

Is it the standard LP5 or the wide edition? I have LP3 which I managed to get new recently, they are definitely narrower than the Olympus 2.5 and 3.5. I like using the LP3 for normal activities and work but for doing a Camino they would be too narrow in the toe box and too shallow and every day would be a painful reminder of that.

 

[LesBrass]

Have you tried Hoka shoes. They are broad/ wide and since I have tried both female and male sizes, they seem to be alike, unlike other brands where size european 42 is unlike for men and woman. I usually buy male shoes but in Hoka I have both kinds.

I did try a wide fit Challenger and they didn’t feel quite as wide as the LP. My foot is 3 EEE wide... and my poor little toes suffer if the shoe is narrow.

I might try the Speedgoat ... I wish they were wide enough but I think they might be a smidge too narrow.

 

[LesBrass]

I was told by Northern Runners in Newcastle that the LP5 wide would not be available in the UK until September at the earliest,which is about a week too late for me. I tried becoming a member on the US company REI and having them shipped to my address, they seemed ok with some parts of my order but not the LP5, as soon as I tried to purchase they said not available for shipping, I could have got the Olympus4 shipped by them but I was only testing to see what orders they were comfortable with sending and not. I have seen some images of the LP5 wide and they look proper wide and deep, perfect for my feet.

Interesting. I really will need a pair by September ... I’ll search for an older model but I didn’t have much luck earlier. At least after this hiccup the wide will be available for us.

 

[LesBrass]

I have had LPs 3-5. I haven’t noticed much difference. This I managed to get some Olympus 4s. IMHO they fit similar to the LP.

interesting... there was a marked difference in the insole. As soon as I put my foot in I knew they would be too long. I do like the new style so I hope to test out the wide soon!

 

[sugargypsy]

I compared the insoles and there is at least 0.5 cm or more difference... but worse than this they are also narrower. This is really bad news for my enormously wide feet!

I'm sorry that I can't help you with your original question and hope that someone else here can help you / can answer your question or share an experience.

If not, have you tried Meindl shoes? There are distributors in France which sell them and they do have a normal and a wide/comfort edition. I need special insoles which are quite thick and wide - Meindl shoes were the the only ones that fitted perfectly for me. No blisters during my Camino in 2019.

So that's maybe a possibility to try, if there's no chance of getting the Lone Peak Trailers you need here in Europe.

Best wishes,

Karina

 

[LesBrass]

I have a temporary solution... I found a pair of LP3.5's on Amazon Germany... I've ordered these and they'll keep me going until the LP5 wide is available in France.

I think if the LP5 wide works I'm going to buy 3 or 4 pairs to keep me going for a while! I hate having to buy new shoes... it's always such a worry when you have such wide wide feet

 

[Moorwalker]

Have you tried Hoka shoes. They are broad/ wide and since I have tried both female and male sizes, they seem to be alike, unlike other brands where size european 42 is unlike for men and woman. I usually buy male shoes but in Hoka I have both kinds.

Hoka are much too spongy for my taste though, it's like walking on a bouncy castle.

 

[Moorwalker]

Those who know me will be aware of my quest for the perfect shoe and my battle with blisters. I felt that over the years I've settled with Lone Peak trail shoes - I get the odd blister but generally these work for me. In real life I buy a ladies shoe - size 41 (eu) - for a Lone Peak I buy a mans shoe in an 44 (eu). I've no idea why shoe sizes vary so much but the Lone Peak in a 44 seems to have been my staple now since 2016.

I'm hoping to go walking again soon and I felt it was high time to buy a new pair... so I ordered the Lone Peak 5 in a 44. As soon as I put them on I knew they would be too big. I compared the insoles and there is at least 0.5 cm or more difference... but worse than this they are also narrower. This is really bad news for my enormously wide feet!

I checked on a few sites and it appears that Altra now offer the Lone Peak in wide and normal widths but guess what... they're not for sale in europe.

Has anyone else managed to try a wide pair? If I buy from the US I have to pay considerable import taxes and I don't want to do this is they are going to be the wrong size?

Feeling rather deflated... I hate buying new shoes

The narrower fit is a disaster for me too.

 

[kje]

Those who know me will be aware of my quest for the perfect shoe and my battle with blisters. I felt that over the years I've settled with Lone Peak trail shoes - I get the odd blister but generally these work for me. In real life I buy a ladies shoe - size 41 (eu) - for a Lone Peak I buy a mans shoe in an 44 (eu). I've no idea why shoe sizes vary so much but the Lone Peak in a 44 seems to have been my staple now since 2016.

I'm hoping to go walking again soon and I felt it was high time to buy a new pair... so I ordered the Lone Peak 5 in a 44. As soon as I put them on I knew they would be too big. I compared the insoles and there is at least 0.5 cm or more difference... but worse than this they are also narrower. This is really bad news for my enormously wide feet!

I checked on a few sites and it appears that Altra now offer the Lone Peak in wide and normal widths but guess what... they're not for sale in europe.

Has anyone else managed to try a wide pair? If I buy from the US I have to pay considerable import taxes and I don't want to do this is they are going to be the wrong size?

Feeling rather deflated... I hate buying new shoes

I recently moved from Altra Lone Peaks to the Altra Timp. I wanted just a bit more cushion for the mixed trails of dirt and concrete walking. The Timp are still nice and wide. I wear a women’s US 8.5 in everyday shoes and a 9.5 for hiking shoes. As a reference, I have worn Altras since 2009 as my sole hiking shoes with no regrets, and Timp is my new favorite. Also, if the Altra website won’t ship the wide variety to Europe, try Amazon in your home country and that should avoid the duty tax. I have seen Altra there on Amazon. Here in California, I buy my Altra from Zappos for the free shipping and I know that is now an Amazon company as of a couple years ago, so maybe you have that there also.
Best of luck! Great shoes are hard to find!

 

[Moorwalker]

I recently moved from Altra Lone Peaks to the Altra Timp. I wanted just a bit more cushion for the mixed trails of dirt and concrete walking. The Timp are still nice and wide. I wear a women’s US 8.5 in everyday shoes and a 9.5 for hiking shoes. As a reference, I have worn Altras since 2009 as my sole hiking shoes with no regrets, and Timp is my new favorite. Also, if the Altra website won’t ship the wide variety to Europe, try Amazon in your home country and that should avoid the duty tax. I have seen Altra there on Amazon. Here in California, I buy my Altra from Zappos for the free shipping and I know that is now an Amazon company as of a couple years ago, so maybe you have that there also.
Best of luck! Great shoes are hard to find!

It's that extra cushion that I don't want though. And Amazon in the UK haven't had Lone Peaks for several months, even from US sources. useful info about Zappos, although we end up paying import taxes.

 

[jalluisi]

Those who know me will be aware of my quest for the perfect shoe and my battle with blisters. I felt that over the years I've settled with Lone Peak trail shoes - I get the odd blister but generally these work for me. In real life I buy a ladies shoe - size 41 (eu) - for a Lone Peak I buy a mans shoe in an 44 (eu). I've no idea why shoe sizes vary so much but the Lone Peak in a 44 seems to have been my staple now since 2016.

I'm hoping to go walking again soon and I felt it was high time to buy a new pair... so I ordered the Lone Peak 5 in a 44. As soon as I put them on I knew they would be too big. I compared the insoles and there is at least 0.5 cm or more difference... but worse than this they are also narrower. This is really bad news for my enormously wide feet!

I checked on a few sites and it appears that Altra now offer the Lone Peak in wide and normal widths but guess what... they're not for sale in europe.

Has anyone else managed to try a wide pair? If I buy from the US I have to pay considerable import taxes and I don't want to do this is they are going to be the wrong size?

Feeling rather deflated... I hate buying new shoes

I was at REI yesterday and I was going to try on the Altra Lone Peak, but the person there did not recommend it if you are wearing a backpack. She said the cushion would decrease (that is what happened to her). The person at REI did not recommend the HOKA either for the same reason. She ask me how heavy my pack would be and I told her 15 lbs with water. I tried on the Keen Terradora II Waterproof (they were comfortable) and I ordered today the non waterproof to try on. I am currently trying out the Merrell Zion. They are comfortable so far (the toe box is not huge, but wider than the others) I have been trying different shoes and taking shoes back if I don't like them. I am also trying out the Oboz Arete. It's hard picking out shoes!!! I was thinking boot style but now I am going for low shoes. The sizes are all over the place. I have been ordering 9.5 and 10. I typically wear a 9. The person at REI recommended I try the Salomon Outline too. The person at REI recommended to order half size to a size up in hiking shoes.

 

[Walkerooni]

With hiking boots as with running shoes, I find as soon as you find a model you like, they tweak it in some way such that it does not fit like the one you previously liked. Couple that with the fact people’s’ feet constantly change, and I cannot even fathom this concept of ordering footwear without trying them on. I recall a poster on another thread who said their “boots arrived 2 days ago. I’m all ready to go!” Recipe for disaster.

 

[Thomas Christensen]

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I have the MTN Racer 2 (Men’s), which are great shoes (will wear them this summer on the Camino probably). The Ultraventure 2 and Runventure I’ve tried as well, and they seem to be really good shoes too).

In generel Topos are similar to Altra in terms of the wide toebox, but Altra is maybe a little more sloppy around the heel and midfoot and less durable. The drop on Topo trail shoes range from 0 to 5 mm (MTN Racer 2 has 5 mm drop for example, whereas all Altra shorts are zero drop).

I can also really recommend Altra Olympus 4, which are great too and with so much cushion and ‘soft feel’ to it.

In Altra you also have Timp (more cushion than Altra, less cushion than Olympus), which I had in the previous version.

Salomon also make the Speedcross in a wide version and so does Hoka in the
Speedgoat (at least in the men’s versions - not sure about women’s though), and Speedcross I can recommend too.

All the shoes I mention, I think you should be able to find for sale in Europe

Hope you find the right shoes for you!

 

[deborahbennett]

I have very wide feet, and I am currently switching off during training between Altra Lone Peak 5's in a Men's 10 1/2 wide, and the Hoka Speedgoats in a Men's 11 wide. The Hoka Speedgoat wides are a LOT more narrow than the Lone Peak wides even though they are a 1/2 size larger. In fact, when lacing up the Speedgoats, I have skipped the first two sets of holes as I've seen advised to give a roomier feel in the toe box. I can only wear lightweight socks with the Speedgoats, and I can wear medium-weight socks with the Lone Peaks.

I am using Currex Hike Pro insoles in the Lone Peaks to provide extra cushion, and this is very comfortable. I also will be trying Sole brand moldable insoles in them to see which works best on long walks. Many people bring an extra pair of after-market insoles like these along on their Camino to maintain cushioning in their shoes throughout the trip.

I will definitely try on the Altra Olympus 4's even though they don't come in wide sizes to see if they fit as well as the Lone Peaks because the additional cushioning and traction would be a big plus. The MTN Racer 2's and the Topos also sound very good, and I will also try on to see if these might work better than the relatively narrow Hoka Speedgoat wides.

I read a post on the Facebook Camino group that the Lone Peak Timps only held up for 100 miles. Someone at REI told me that even Salomons in a wide are not very wide. I have also read that often the salespeople at REI are not familiar with Camino backpacking, and are making recommendations for backpacking shoes based more on carrying a backpack with a tent, plus food for several days that weighs a whole lot more, and carrying it over very rugged terrain. As has often been said, you need to find what works for you personally rather than base your decision on what works best for someone else.

 

[Moorwalker]

I was at REI yesterday and I was going to try on the Altra Lone Peak, but the person there did not recommend it if you are wearing a backpack. She said the cushion would decrease (that is what happened to her). The person at REI did not recommend the HOKA either for the same reason. She ask me how heavy my pack would be and I told her 15 lbs with water. I tried on the Keen Terradora II Waterproof (they were comfortable) and I ordered today the non waterproof to try on. I am currently trying out the Merrell Zion. They are comfortable so far (the toe box is not huge, but wider than the others) I have been trying different shoes and taking shoes back if I don't like them. I am also trying out the Oboz Arete. It's hard picking out shoes!!! I was thinking boot style but now I am going for low shoes. The sizes are all over the place. I have been ordering 9.5 and 10. I typically wear a 9. The person at REI recommended I try the Salomon Outline too. The person at REI recommended to order half size to a size up in hiking shoes.

There is currently a fashion for having extremely thick, padded shoes and it sounds as if your store person has fallen for the hype. It's very much a personal thing, some people's feet really appreciate the padding, other people have no problem with very little padding. It also makes a big difference the type of ground you are walking on. Pepl on the Portuguese routes often find that the cobbles are hard on their feet, for example, and more padded soles would be an advantage there. Only you will know how your feet deal with it. I dislike a lot of padding which is one reason I love my older Lone Peaks and strongly dislike Hoka.

 

[davebugg]

I was at REI yesterday and I was going to try on the Altra Lone Peak, but the person there did not recommend it if you are wearing a backpack. She said the cushion would decrease (that is what happened to her). The person at REI did not recommend the HOKA either for the same reason. She ask me how heavy my pack would be and I told her 15 lbs with water. I tried on the Keen Terradora II Waterproof (they were comfortable) and I ordered today the non waterproof to try on. I am currently trying out the Merrell Zion. They are comfortable so far (the toe box is not huge, but wider than the others) I have been trying different shoes and taking shoes back if I don't like them. I am also trying out the Oboz Arete. It's hard picking out shoes!!! I was thinking boot style but now I am going for low shoes. The sizes are all over the place. I have been ordering 9.5 and 10. I typically wear a 9. The person at REI recommended I try the Salomon Outline too. The person at REI recommended to order half size to a size up in hiking shoes.

As a preface to my remarks below, they are not meant to direct you to do anything different with regard to your decision in whatever choice of shoe your decide to select.

Based on what you are relating, it underscores the reason why I continually point out how unreliable the 'help' at REI - and many outdoor shops - can be. The issue isn't with what you ordered and find comfortable, it is the absolutely ignorance of that salesperson's knowledge of what the mechanics of shoe construction is designed to do, and how it does it, and interjecting HER subjective experiences - which aren't worth anything meaningful as an objective measure of performance- of what anyone else will experience.

The fact that the shoes the salesperson did not recommend, happen to receive some of the highest recommendations amongst thru hikers and backpackers in general, should give pause at the contradictory advice. They are also a frequent favorite here on the Forum.

I also do not agree with the advice to automatically order increased sizes, either in the length or the width. An increased size may very well be needed, but that increase could be as much as two sizes up when properly evaluating size based on how the shoe fits and feels when actually worn, and while wearing the same socks/ sock combos, the weighted backpack, the orthotics, insoles, devices, etc inside the store at the end of a day or at the end of a long walking session.

The Solomon Outline? Nothing outstanding about it and no huge issues, either. It is lighter than the Solomon Pro 3d, though I did not feel that it was as 'competent' transitioning to various walking/trail conditions.

There are two things which bothered me (men's sizing). The low cut felt weird and was more prone to allowing trail debris to enter the shoe, though this was not a huge issue by itself. Some folks find that the way this cutout is done creates a friction point near the knobby bulges at the ankle.

To me the issue was more about how far I could walk before my feet got 'tired'. In my mind this is a 'short day' shoe. If you are going to walk more than 10 miles, 6.2 k, you may find that it causes more than usual fatigue-soreness to the bottoms of the feet. I tried to look at comments of others posting consumer reviews, and noticed that similar areas of feedback have occurred. For those using this shoe, a more cushioned insole might be of help.

Again, this is not directed at you or your choices. You will find the shoe you need and are comfortable with.

 

[Suzanne H]

I just want to give a second vote on the Topos. I also transitioned from the LPs (having worn them on 3 Caminhos) to Topos. The toe box and amount of cushion feel nice, and the 5 mm drop should help keep my Achilles from overworking with a pack on (a problem I found with the LPs). So far, I like the shoe a lot. Good luck!

 

[Chris RJ]

Those who know me will be aware of my quest for the perfect shoe and my battle with blisters. I felt that over the years I've settled with Lone Peak trail shoes - I get the odd blister but generally these work for me. In real life I buy a ladies shoe - size 41 (eu) - for a Lone Peak I buy a mans shoe in an 44 (eu). I've no idea why shoe sizes vary so much but the Lone Peak in a 44 seems to have been my staple now since 2016.

I'm hoping to go walking again soon and I felt it was high time to buy a new pair... so I ordered the Lone Peak 5 in a 44. As soon as I put them on I knew they would be too big. I compared the insoles and there is at least 0.5 cm or more difference... but worse than this they are also narrower. This is really bad news for my enormously wide feet!

I checked on a few sites and it appears that Altra now offer the Lone Peak in wide and normal widths but guess what... they're not for sale in europe.

Has anyone else managed to try a wide pair? If I buy from the US I have to pay considerable import taxes and I don't want to do this is they are going to be the wrong size?

Feeling rather deflated... I hate buying new shoes

It’s very upsetting when your favourite shoes aren’t available. I bought a few spare pairs of the Lone Peak 4s which I bought through Run & Become in Victoria. Perhaps they can import what you need

I wear them very loose to start and find that by Pamplona they fit quite well.

I use injinji 5 toe sock liners inside a darn tough or smartwool mid thickness sock. Luckily I didn’t get a blister. Just something you might like to try

Buen Camino

 

[Keith H]

I have very wide feet, and I am currently switching off during training between Altra Lone Peak 5's in a Men's 10 1/2 wide, and the Hoka Speedgoats in a Men's 11 wide. The Hoka Speedgoat wides are a LOT more narrow than the Lone Peak wides even though they are a 1/2 size larger. In fact, when lacing up the Speedgoats, I have skipped the first two sets of holes as I've seen advised to give a roomier feel in the toe box. I can only wear lightweight socks with the Speedgoats, and I can wear medium-weight socks with the Lone Peaks.

I am using Currex Hike Pro insoles in the Lone Peaks to provide extra cushion, and this is very comfortable. I also will be trying Sole brand moldable insoles in them to see which works best on long walks. Many people bring an extra pair of after-market insoles like these along on their Camino to maintain cushioning in their shoes throughout the trip.

I will definitely try on the Altra Olympus 4's even though they don't come in wide sizes to see if they fit as well as the Lone Peaks because the additional cushioning and traction would be a big plus. The MTN Racer 2's and the Topos also sound very good, and I will also try on to see if these might work better than the relatively narrow Hoka Speedgoat wides.

I read a post on the Facebook Camino group that the Lone Peak Timps only held up for 100 miles. Someone at REI told me that even Salomons in a wide are not very wide. I have also read that often the salespeople at REI are not familiar with Camino backpacking, and are making recommendations for backpacking shoes based more on carrying a backpack with a tent, plus food for several days that weighs a whole lot more, and carrying it over very rugged terrain. As has often been said, you need to find what works for you personally rather than base your decision on what works best for someone else.

I have had the Timp 3s for a couple months now and I walk about 50km a week. They are holding up pretty well so far. I generally wear 11 1/2 in US sizing and bought these in a 12. They fit quite snuggly at first but loosened up within a day to be very comfortable. I use pretty thin socks so factor that into your shoe sizing. They do benefit from using lace locking as that prevented my heel from riding up and also created more support in the mid-foot.

 

[MartaM]

I just want to give a second vote on the Topos. I also transitioned from the LPs (having worn them on 3 Caminhos) to Topos. The toe box and amount of cushion feel nice, and the 5 mm drop should help keep my Achilles from overworking with a pack on (a problem I found with the LPs). So far, I like the shoe a lot. Good luck!

I’m debating betweven wearing my Topo Terraventures vs. a brand new pair of Timp 2 that I got on sale when the 3’s came out. Wore out the soles on a pair of Timp 2s that I bought for my cancelled 2020 Camino. Topo has a sturdier Vibram sole, toe box seems slightly narrower. Lone Peaks bunch up across my foot- too much volume in the front for me.

 

[tjb1013]

I have men’s 10.5
* Hoka Bondi 6 wide (not ultra wide)
* Hoka Speedgoat 4 wide (not waterproof)
* Altra Lone Peak 5 wide (not waterproof)

The Bondis are not wide enough (but my favorite for asphalt walking, will be buying ultra wide in the 7s).

The Speedgoats are just right with a light or medium sock.

The Lone Peak is a barge and might be too wide; I’ve not put serious miles on them yet. (I put heel lifts in them because I’m not a huge fan of zero drop and to add a little more volume displacement ).

That’s my experience with the relative widths.

 

[Isca-camigo]

The Lone Peak is a barge and might be too wide;

Yes please.

 

[deborahbennett]

I had no idea that HOKA’s came in an ultra wide, so thanks very much for posting this! I just returned my HOKA Speedgoat men’s size 10.5 “wides” because they were too narrow… which is the same complaint others had about them on the Zappos.com website reviews, a valuable source for unbiased opinions.

So today I will order the HOKA Bondi 7s in ultra wide. Fingers crossed!

I have also ordered New Balance More Foam Trail v1 from Zappos, similar to Speedgoats but they come in a men’s EE and EEEE width (free 2 day shipping and returns), and a pair of wide fit Meindls from England (they charge only $17.95 for shipping to the US, and there are free returns via PayPal).

There is no guarantee one will 100% avoid blisters and foot pain, but I am doing my very best to make sure that shoes which are too narrow for me will not be the cause.

 

[deborahbennett]

I have men’s 10.5
* Hoka Bondi 6 wide (not ultra wide)
* Hoka Speedgoat 4 wide (not waterproof)
* Altra Lone Peak 5 wide (not waterproof)

The Bondis are not wide enough (but my favorite for asphalt walking, will be buying ultra wide in the 7s).

The Speedgoats are just right with a light or medium sock.

The Lone Peak is a barge and might be too wide; I’ve not put serious miles on them yet. (I put heel lifts in them because I’m not a huge fan of zero drop and to add a little more volume displacement ).

That’s my experience with the relative widths.

Yes, the Altra Lone Peak 10.5 wides are a bit barge-like. I feel a bit like I am wearing those oversized shoes Hobbits wear. But they are the only shoes I have found so far that will allow me to comfortably wear medium weight hiking socks with liner socks underneath to prevent blisters.

I will try the Bondi 7 ultra wides, the Meindl wide fits, and the New Balance More Foam Trail v1 EE or EEEE and decide which is the best to switch off with my Altra LP wides for training and the Camino.

 

[LesBrass]

Wow thanks for all the great replies. I really need the EEEE wide... so a barge like shoe might be just right for me

I’ll look forward to them being available in the autumn but feel happy that I have a backup with the older model.

it’s really hard work for us folks with ultra wide feet... blisters are just the worst and finding a wide shoe is like seeking the holy grail

many thanks again

 

[Isca-camigo]

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It looks like the LP5 wide is available in the UK from the 6th July.

 

[deborahbennett]

Hurray! This is great news. I absolutely love my Altra Lone Peak 5 wides, and I am so very grateful that these will be more WIDELY (pun intended) available!

I read on the Topo website that they hope to expand their offering in the future to include wide widths. Double hurray!

 

[tjb1013]

Update:

Bought Hoka Bondi ultra wide (4E).

The good news is that it is very wide - as wide as the Altras in the forefoot, maybe a little snugger in the heel (which is better for my particular foot).

The not-so-good news is they feel like they've changed the midsole and sole a bit. The "ride" is not as plush, and the sole makes a plastic 'plocking' sound when it strikes the pavement (my feet don't work, so I flop along).

 

[tjb1013]

Wide shoe update:

New Balance Fresh Foam More Trail 10.5, 4E. Wider than the Bondi 7 ultra wide, comparable to the Altra LP 5 wide but with a Hoka-like spongy midsole and a drop that I was more comfortable with than the zero-drop Altras.

 

[deborahbennett]

I agree! After two months wearing my New Balance Fresh Foam More Trail 4E's, I would say that they are almost as wide as my Altra Lone Peak wides, and the Fresh Foams provide a lot more cushioning than the Lone Peaks on pavement or rocks/cobblestones (though the Lone Peaks are good on dirt paths).

I had purchased Hoka Speedgoats in what they said was a 6E extra wide, but as many reviewers have said on Zappos.com, the Hoka wides are actually not all that wide for we people with wide feet, The New Balance Fresh Foam 4E's and the Altra Lone Peak wides are wider than the Hoka 6E extra wides.

 

[klimmo]

Altra fan here, do my trailrunning in LP. Has anyone got experience with the waterproof-winter version? Considering them for a late autumn CP-coastal and keep feet dryer in the rain.

 

[Malachiuri]

Heya,

I just did a test hike in driving rain in my LP/WP a couple of weeks ago. Very waterproof. In fact, so waterproof that after taking in water over the tops fording a small stream they stayed wet for about 4 days. I had insoles pulled out and had them stuffed with newspaper.

They are fine for walking through dew and light rain but I won't be taking them on my Jan 2022 CF. I will be taking the summer mesh version and my gore-tex oversocks instead.

M

 

[klimmo]

Hi, thank you. that's the conundrum, isnt it. the lp's get wet when walking in grass/snow, but stay suprisingly comfortable and dry quickly, though not necessarily in one night. but the wp's def won't dry in a night when wet. gaitors may be the solution for rainy days, but are another thing to bring.

Mud, rain and cold made a november Mozarabe miserable for the feet and am trying to do better!

Thanks again and enjoy prepping for your camino.

 

[Keith H]

Hi, thank you. that's the conundrum, isnt it. the lp's get wet when walking in grass/snow, but stay suprisingly comfortable and dry quickly, though not necessarily in one night. but the wp's def won't dry in a night when wet. gaitors may be the solution for rainy days, but are another thing to bring.

Mud, rain and cold made a november Mozarabe miserable for the feet and am trying to do better!

Thanks again and enjoy prepping for your camino.

I think gaiters might be a decent solution. My issue with water proof shoes was that they turned into boats as the rain ran off my legs and straight in. I’m using a hiking kilt now which does seem to let the water shed further out so that might help The standard LPs have great drainage so socks could also be part of the answer?

 

[tjb1013]

Lots of good info here and in other threads about the trade-offs involved with waterproof shoes.

One thing I’m interested in is whether the waterproofing makes, say, a 10.5 EE waterproofed Lone Peak snugger than a 10.5 EE non-waterproofed Lone Peak.

As has been pointed out here endlessly, the fit and comfort of your shoes and your pack are the two most important factors (and after two Caminos, I completely agree), but I’ve only figured out what does and doesn’t work after a very thorough trial period - too long to feel comfortable returning anything that doesn’t work *for me*, even at places with liberal return policies like REI.

This is very expensive R&D.

 

[Keith H]

Lots of good info here and in other threads about the trade-offs involved with waterproof shoes.

One thing I’m interested in is whether the waterproofing makes, say, a 10.5 EE waterproofed Lone Peak snugger than a 10.5 EE non-waterproofed Lone Peak.

As has been pointed out here endlessly, the fit and comfort of your shoes and your pack are the two most important factors (and after two Caminos, I completely agree), but I’ve only figured out what does and doesn’t work after a very thorough trial period - too long to feel comfortable returning anything that doesn’t work *for me*, even at places with liberal return policies like REI.

This is very expensive R&D.

I definitely found the WP ones to stay more ‘snug’ whereas the uppers on the standard ones relaxed a bit. I had a dramatic change in the fit of my Timp 3s (My most recent shoe) after wearing them for a day. I was concerned they were too tight at first and then they fit perfectly.

 

[LesBrass]

I noticed some activity on this thread and realised that I never updated on the LP wide. Thankfully I was in the UK in August so was able to buy a pair. Previously I bought a man's EU 44... that was way too big. So I bought a man's 43 and again too big... I bought a man's 42 in a wide and bingo... fits great.

I walked 300km in those shoes in September right out of the box with no blisters... Yeah!!

The LP 5 wide felt good, the sizing is different than the last few versions but once I'd found the size I was happy... so I recommend you play around to get the right shoe. I still have to buy a man's shoe as the ladies version is too narrow.

The one thing I felt that was different was the shoe felt a little harder underfoot? My feet ached more at the end of the day? I don't know if that's just me or if for some reason they are less padded or spongy? But... I'll take that because the shoe fits me so well and the traction is so good. I'm off for another 300km in a few days in the same shoe... I hope the no blisters continue for me

 

[Keith H]

I noticed some activity on this thread and realised that I never updated on the LP wide. Thankfully I was in the UK in August so was able to buy a pair. Previously I bought a man's EU 44... that was way too big. So I bought a man's 43 and again too big... I bought a man's 42 in a wide and bingo... fits great.

I walked 300km in those shoes in September right out of the box with no blisters... Yeah!!

The LP 5 wide felt good, the sizing is different than the last few versions but once I'd found the size I was happy... so I recommend you play around to get the right shoe. I still have to buy a man's shoe as the ladies version is too narrow.

The one thing I felt that was different was the shoe felt a little harder underfoot? My feet ached more at the end of the day? I don't know if that's just me or if for some reason they are less padded or spongy? But... I'll take that because the shoe fits me so well and the traction is so good. I'm off for another 300km in a few days in the same shoe... I hope the no blisters continue for me

You can change the insole to Superfeet Greens (as one example) and that should help a lot! I’m trying the Timps because they have thicker soles and are wide enough for me. I still might put Superfeet in them though

 

[klimmo]

Lots of good info here and in other threads about the trade-offs involved with waterproof shoes.

One thing I’m interested in is whether the waterproofing makes, say, a 10.5 EE waterproofed Lone Peak snugger than a 10.5 EE non-waterproofed Lone Peak.

As has been pointed out here endlessly, the fit and comfort of your shoes and your pack are the two most important factors (and after two Caminos, I completely agree), but I’ve only figured out what does and doesn’t work after a very thorough trial period - too long to feel comfortable returning anything that doesn’t work *for me*, even at places with liberal return policies like REI.

This is very expensive R&D.

thank you, good question, I hadn't thought about that.
def expensive R&D, no stores in a 100km radius sell Altra so relying on return policies as well. All the more reason for appreciating your experiences.

 

[klimmo]

I definitely found the WP ones to stay more ‘snug’ whereas the uppers on the standard ones relaxed a bit. I had a dramatic change in the fit of my Timp 3s (My most recent shoe) after wearing them for a day. I was concerned they were too tight at first and then they fit perfectly.

Thank you.

From LP to Timp, what are your ideas? big difference in support, traction, size?

 

[klimmo]

I noticed some activity on this thread and realised that I never updated on the LP wide. Thankfully I was in the UK in August so was able to buy a pair. Previously I bought a man's EU 44... that was way too big. So I bought a man's 43 and again too big... I bought a man's 42 in a wide and bingo... fits great.

I walked 300km in those shoes in September right out of the box with no blisters... Yeah!!

The LP 5 wide felt good, the sizing is different than the last few versions but once I'd found the size I was happy... so I recommend you play around to get the right shoe. I still have to buy a man's shoe as the ladies version is too narrow.

The one thing I felt that was different was the shoe felt a little harder underfoot? My feet ached more at the end of the day? I don't know if that's just me or if for some reason they are less padded or spongy? But... I'll take that because the shoe fits me so well and the traction is so good. I'm off for another 300km in a few days in the same shoe... I hope the no blisters continue for me

Thank you, and also for starting this thread. sizing def changed with LP5, for the next ones i'll go down half a size. I feel they have more support on the side (compared to 4.5). I use them for trailrunning here in the alps and love the traction and the direct feel of them.
Am now also looking at the Timp to have a bit more padding for the cobble stones. Do you have any experience with them?

 

[LesBrass]

Thank you, and also for starting this thread. sizing def changed with LP5, for the next ones i'll go down half a size. I feel they have more support on the side (compared to 4.5). I use them for trailrunning here in the alps and love the traction and the direct feel of them.
Am now also looking at the Timp to have a bit more padding for the cobble stones. Do you have any experience with them?

Yes I agree they do feel more secure in the mid foot. Overall I think the LP 5 is great... and maybe the sizing issues are just correcting problems in previous models?

I haven't tried the Timp but so many people say they're great I think I might have to try. Because my feet are so wide I'm always nervous trying new shoes... especially here in France as once I've walked 20km I can't return them but a little more padding sounds perfect for hiking with a pack I'm hoping to go walking in Washington State next summer and I might drop into REI and try a few xtra wide options... I love that if they aren't suitable you can return them.

I would though be very interested in Timp reviews from others who also have such wide wide feet... I wonder how they compare to the LP5 Wide?