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I am considering wearing a kilt when I walk the Way of St James.
I welcome.advice from experienced kilt wearers. I am especially interested in the benefits and the concerns from the camino family.
Dax
Great idea David. I got my kilt out a few weeks ago only to discover that the moths have been at it. I'm thinking of patenting it as a 'breathable airflow hiking kilt' now. Underwear is recommended.
That is a good idea. I wonder if there is already a Camino or pilgrims' tartan - I'll research it, but I doubt it. What colours should be included and why? (I'll start with red for the spring poppies.)Maybe you could have a word with LTfitt to see if she could get some camino kilts knocked up maybe to match the Buffs she is obtaining for pilgrims on the forum? A kind of forum clan tartan!!!!
That is a good idea. I wonder if there is already a Camino or pilgrims' tartan - I'll research it, but I doubt it. What colours should be included and why? (I'll start with red for the spring poppies.)
Did I hear you right then Jenny, "Very handy for spontaneous snagging on the the Galician Gorse" did you say?Kilt-wearers take note! The sporran is a FABULOUS receptacle for your trail mix! ... Very handy for spontaneous snacking!
Och B! If ye keep yer wee pace sloo and dinnae shoogle aboot ye should be oookeee!Did I hear you right then Jenny, "Very handy for spontaneous snagging on the the Galician Gorse" did you say?
There are no official Camino tartans that I can find, with the only tenuous link being the tartan of the Pilgrim's School in Bedford, England. (???!!!) This leaves the way clear for us to design an official 'Camino de Santiago Forum' tartan. Here's a link to get you started:
http://www.scotweb.co.uk/tartandesign/design/4946
Liking this!! there are a few Spanish Tartans - see here - http://www.scotweb.co.uk/tartan/Espana-Spanish/55917
but if I were going to design one for the Camino? hhmmm ... as background a dark shade of green for Galicia then a yellow stripe - for Camino signs, edged with the red of St James crosses ... tempted to go for the wine red of Riojan wine bordering the sand yellow of the Meseta .. which, funnily enough, is the same.
Just found this site which Insists! that the origin of the kilt is Galician (though they seem pretty short to me!!) http://www.tartan.galician.org/kilts.htm
Hi tyrrek -There are no official Camino tartans that I can find, with the only tenuous link being the tartan of the Pilgrim's School in Bedford, England. (???!!!) This leaves the way clear for us to design an official 'Camino de Santiago Forum' tartan. Here's a link to get you started:
http://www.scotweb.co.uk/tartandesign/design/4946
@Saint Mike II - four strikes on cultural awareness! Fijian traditional dress includes a sulu, while some people from PNG might still wear lap-laps. And the Maasai do wear a red sheet, but the people of Maasi probably don't.Hola David - you may start a trend. I can just see a clan if Fijian Warriors walking the Camino in their "lap-laps"; or a Maasi in his red cloak.
You mention "underwear" - I thought that would have seen you drummed out of your clan!?
Buen Camino!
Ok - I stand corrected on the Fiji/PNG dress naming - although they were referred to by that name last time I was in Fiji - 1982/.@Saint Mike II - four strikes on cultural awareness! Fijian traditional dress includes a sulu, while some people from PNG might still wear lap-laps. And the Maasai do wear a red sheet, but the people of Maasi probably don't.
I am seriously thinking of wearing my kilt next time out, March-ish. Mainly for the practicality .. if you think of the human body design around the groin area and our ... eerrmmm ... protruding parts, you would think that women would wear trousers and men would wear skirts - manly skirts of course, so, the kilt. A dress kilt is wool and is heavy but you can get workaday kilts at a fraction of the cost that are synthetic and lighter and therefore dry really quickly.
You shouldn't need to clean it (wear underwear! - think of the refugios!) but, in France and Spain in the cities, in supermarket malls, you can find 1 hour dry cleaners ... so if you have a pair of trunks with you - no problem.
They are heavier than trousers of course but don't feel so when worn. All that fresh air!, no chafing ... socks up when it is cool and socks down to the ankles when it is hot ... and very easy if using the rest stop behind the bush ... my family are Scots, but I was brought up in England - verr odd at the rare family gatherings as they all had Scottish accents. I cannot get my clan tartan (Horsburgh) in a workaday kilt so use Peebles Royal Burgh Tartan, which is the clan Horsburgh county tartan.
Kilts are worn by men from all over the world and many countries have their own national tartan so it isn't necessary to try for a Scottish accent! - fellas, if you haven't tried one - DO! - kilt hem to mid knee now .. shorter and it looks like a skirt, longer and it rubs like mad and doesn't show off your knees! and! a low slung sporran is the perfect protection from a butting sheep or sharp-fanged hound. You need to buy an 8 yard kilt for the weight and swing, anything less doesn't do the job.
You can get a workaday 8 yard kilt from online shops such as this http://www.thescotlandkiltcompany.co.uk/ (No, Dougfitz, I am not advertising, just passing on information) -
and there is this site in support of men in kilts - http://www.kiltmen.com/index.htm - so if you feel that urge (talking to men here) then visit this site. They open with
"We are an international band of men who enjoy the freedom, comfort, pleasure, and masculine appearance of kilts or other male unbifurcated (skirt-like) garments, and who reject the absurd notion that males must always be confined to trousers. We are men in kilts, Utilikilts, and other kilt-like clothing. Our purpose is to liberate men from the "tyranny of trousers" that has been imposed upon us by Western society. We encourage and promote the wearing, acceptance, and availability of kilts and other unbifurcated garments for men.
Unbifurcated garments - including kilts, robes, caftans, sarongs, tunics, and other skirt-like garments - are traditionally male clothing that have been worn by men throughout history. They have been worn by all the men in the Bible, by Roman gladiators, Vikings, and Scottish Highlanders. They are still worn frequently by men in Scotland, throughout Africa, the Middle East, parts of Asia, and the Pacific islands, to name just a few examples. Unbifurcated garments are far more comfortable and suitable to the male anatomy than trousers, because they don't confine the legs or cramp the male genitals the way that trousers do."
After all, if it is ok for Sean Connery - well! need I say more? (p.s. you don't need the silly shoes).
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you can check kiltsHi Dax
It's certainly been done, and would be a good conversation starter. I think the kilt is recognisable enough to the Spanish that the locals would enjoy the novelty of it and perhaps have a bit of a smile, but I doubt there would be any disapproval!
Depending upon the length of the Camino and the season, cleaning it would be one of the biggest issues. I wouldn't fancy walking in a sweaty kilt for a month or more in high summer. Nor would I fancy carrying it if it was only to be used from time to time. You may struggle to find professional cleaners regularly enough who could do it quickly enough. You could try to get hold of a cheap second hand one that you don't mind damaging through hand washing. When I got mine there was a rail of second hand kilts in the outfitters. It might dry overnight or on a rest day if it was warm weather, but I don't know what it would look like by the end.
If you know someone who is good with a sewing machine they might be able to knock up a bespoke 'Camino kilt' out of a cooler and lighter fabric. OK, it wouldn't have the same shape or movement to it, but to the untrained eye it might be passable as a kilt.
As you're male a sporran would be fine for cash/pilgrim passport etc, but I'm unsure about the legality of sgian-dubhs in Spain.
Good luck and Buen Camino from a Hunting MacKay wearer.
Sleep in it? You slept under the old ones.I’ll wear [the kilt] in by sleeping and walking in it fir the two weeks before I leave
I'm not sure that a piece of clothing needs a break in period.
I've never thought about anything close to this before ever but now I've seen this - https://www.mountainhardwear.com/mens-elkommando-utility-kilt-OM3417.html - I want one more than I want to do the camino!
I wouldn't if I was you. I walked with an American and he wore one and got a lot of eyebrows over it and questions and whys. PLus the fact of washing it was a chore and it was of no comfort. Why he wore it was a puzzlement to us, his Scotish ancestry was as far removed as my Roman ancestry is to me .I am considering wearing a kilt when I walk the Way of St James.
I welcome.advice from experienced kilt wearers. I am especially interested in the benefits and the concerns from the camino family.
Dax
Why he wore it was a puzzlement to us, his Scotish ancestry was as far removed as my Roman ancestry is to me .
I doubt to both nevertheless he ended up with a heat rash.Was his Scottish ancestry his sole reason for wearing a kilt? Perhaps he simply felt it would be a comfortable practical option? We Scots do not have sole rights to the kilt.
I would think that the extra air flow would help to prevent heat rash.I doubt to both nevertheless he ended up with a heat rash.