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I already had the 4 port hub as I was using it at home for things like USB microphones, recording equipment, etc, and it seemed like a great substitute for the heavy power bank. I do have a few gadgets, but it’s worth considering. Is this on Amazon? I’ll check into it, thanks!I have one like this. It is not powered. Can plug in my CPAP and also use it to charge my phone, but I don't have an Iphone. Do you need 4 ports? Can you just charge two things at a time?
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Yes, they are available on Amazon.I have one like this. It is not powered. Can plug in my CPAP and also use it to charge my phone, but I don't have an Iphone. Do you need 4 ports? Can you just charge two things at a time?
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Edit: I looked on Amazon and the same company also has a similar adapter with a plug for Iphone chargers.
?WOW - you're talking with yourself
I edit the post - it was to J Willhaus who quoted her own post
Ah, no worries! Thanks for the clarification!I edit the post - it was to J Willhaus who quoted her own post
Argh. I’ve never paid much attention to those CE marks, not understanding what they mean. I don’t know if it makes a difference that this adapter is not a voltage converter. I went to their website and they don’t say either. It’s already ordered, so I’ll look in the packaging to see if there’s any info (I don’t expect to find any). Worst case scenario I suppose I could buy one locally when I get there, since I’m not the only visitor that has needed one…@HBS60, going back to the post that started this, I cannot see the CE mark certifying that it complies with the EU electrical safety requirements. The photo you have shared more recently don't show the compliance markings at all, so it isn't possible to say much about its compliance with any nation's electrical safety requirements.
Actually, it is converting mains voltages to the nominal 5V for the USB ports. If it is configured as a power supply, it might have a slightly higher voltage available on the USB-C port.I don’t know if it makes a difference that this adapter is not a voltage converter.
It might be compatible with different voltages, but it is not a simple adaptor, and it doesn't have electrical safety compliance markings for the EC nor Australia. It only appears to have an FCC compliance marking, indicating it will meet the requirements for use in the US, and can be sold there. It may not meet the requirements elsewhere.Yours says 110-240V which means it's OK with a simple adapter (which is almost certainly what you purchased) anywhere in the world.
I couldn't see the EC compliance marking in any of the images, and there is no statement on the page linked here about the product's electrical safety compliance in any country. The only marking I could easily detect on the product shown in the product listing was the FCC mark, indicating that it could be sold in the USA. I couldn't see an Australian RCM which would indicate that it could be sold in Australia.If you use the adapter/transformer in your pictures, here is a link with information about its compatibility in Europe.
I think this is the most important point.100 to 240 VAC 50 to 60 Hz covers power "normal power" in just about all of the world including Spain. Have you tried using this hub to recharge your phone? You might find that it charges rather slowly or not at all from a device that is deisgned primarily to be a hub, not a charger.
FYI, the US Federal Communications Commission (FCC) logo on a product does not certify that a product meets any safety requirements. It means that the product will produce minimal electromagnetic interference.It only appears to have an FCC compliance marking, indicating it will meet the requirements for use in the US, and can be sold there.
No , you need a CE marking on it.Does this setup look ok for both Spain and France?
So - buy a plug adapter that can take your home plug and that has USB ports but only if guaranteed to be properly made, a good brand, complete with kite and/or CE marks and with USB ports that output the modern 3amps.
No , you need a CE marking on it.
By them in Europe and not from China and Taiwan.
Just sayin.
Thanks to all. I saw the Tessan page but it says nothing (that I can find) about meeting CE standards. If the reviews are to be believed, it should be OK, but that’s just an if, who knows whom/what to trust?Hi HBS60
If you use the adapter/transformer in your pictures, here is a link with information about its compatibility in Europe.
US To European Travel Adapter With 3 USB Ports (Fast Charging PD 15W)
European Travel Adapter USB C: Dual USB A ports can charge up to 2.4A, and the USB C port can charge up to 3A; Ideal for cell phone, tablet, power bank, laptop, earphone, etctessan.com
Thanks to all. I saw the Tessan page but it says nothing (that I can find) about meeting CE standards. If the reviews are to be believed, it should be OK, but that’s just an if, who knows whom/what to trust?
If I must buy one when I get to Spain, where can I buy one? I don’t expect to find a Best Buy, Target, Walmart, etc, I’m not familiar with Spain stores. I’ll be spending my first night at Albergue Plaza Catedral in Pamplona en route to SJPDP, anything within walking distance?
Thanks for all the help!
Any small retail store will have them. Lots of members referred to chino shops. The store owners do understand "travel adaptor". I got one in Puente la Reina when mine got accidentally wet and all USB ports shortened out (the only thing i was able to use after it dried out was the actual plug - i.e. if i plugged something into it). In Burgos I spent some time in the Mall (for the lack of better description); was on the outskirts of the city and we were waiting for the Decathlon to open.... anyways there was a European adapter with no plug but 2 USBs on sale for like €4.00 and for that price I snatched it (probably should've gotten 2). So the opportunities abound. No worries
13 amps at European voltage is more like 3,000 watts. When I worked in UK theatres we used 10 amp lighting circuits, which amounts to about 2,500 watts, but it depends on the exact voltage. It used to be 250v at one time in the UK but now 240v, I think.Any plug, whether it is a simple plug that attaches to a device cable (think table lamp) or one that can be plugged into a foreign socket and then allows your own plug to be plugged in is a simple thing.
Take it apart and you will see that it is merely some pieces of solid copper or brass, which allows the circuit/s to be made.
There is only one thing to be aware of that can cause a problem - the load that goes through it - how much power is drawn off from the power supply because if it is too much it will cause heat in the adapter and possibly then fire.
Properly wired domestic electrical circuits in a building are built to take multiple loads of 13 amps - but only up to 13 amps from each socket. 13 amps in EU voltage is 1560 Watts (1.56 KiloWatts!) - unless someone takes their own large kettle or two bar electric heater I would be amazed if any pilgrim could carry anything that can draw anywhere near that power so none of us should have any concerns - it is the power drawn through, not how many things are connected.
With adapter plugs that contain USB ports the situation is slightly different in that there is a separated internal device that reduces the 240v to 5v and at certain ampages. Old models at maybe just 1amp output, newer models (from companies aware of fast charging and so on) at 3amps.
So - buy a plug adapter that can take your home plug and that has USB ports but only if guaranteed to be properly made, a good brand, complete with kite and/or CE marks and with USB ports that output the modern 3amps.
13 amps at 240 volts is indeed 3120w - my only defense here is I must have been tired when I wrote mine!! Will edit it.13 amps at European voltage is more like 3,000 watts. When I worked in UK theatres we used 10 amp lighting circuits, which amounts to about 2,500 watts, but it depends on the exact voltage. It used to be 250v at one time in the UK but now 240v, I think.
The power output of the unit is 5 volts* 2.5 amps, giving 12.5 watts.
The charging power for new iPhones is 20 watts.
Along with your CPAP etc your power required exceeds the unit.
I have a good worldwide mains adapter and the original charger for the phone. You should do that for your new phone.
I assume the CPAP comes with it's own charger. I would also take that.
Wait till you get to Spain and seek out the fereteria or Chinese shop and get the adapters that they recommend.
An often overlooked problem can be the lack of mains outlets, or overcrowded by other users. In this case a multi mains adapter allows more users to plug in their chargers. That may be useful for you.
That is powered, but it is not a “hub.” A hub supports data transfer; your device provides only power. I see that it provides a USA style outlet, but (warning) it does not look big enough to contain a voltage transformer! If my suspicion is correct, plugging a north American appliance into it will damage the appliance and probably the adapter. Someone else posted a picture of a similar device that acxtually had that warning on the front of it.I have one like this. It is not powered. Can plug in my CPAP and also use it to charge my phone, but I don't have an Iphone. Do you need 4 ports? Can you just charge two things at a time?
I’ve seen converters and adapters of that type ()and all others!) in almost every airport in two dozen countries.I didn't find that at all, not for a EU plug adapter with a foreign socket to plug into. In those shops there were plenty of adapters to use outside Spain but none for foreign use inside Spain - eventually I found one in a huge Al Campo hypermarket.
I only use it for my CPAP which is set for the voltage difference. I never take appliances requiring a transformer.That is powered, but it is not a “hub.” A hub supports data transfer; your device provides only power. I see that it provides a USA style outlet, but (warning) it does not look big enough to contain a voltage transformer! If my suspicion is correct, plugging a north American appliance into it will damage the appliance and probably the adapter. Someone else posted a picture of a similar device that acxtually had that warning on the front of it.
This looks like a good solution. You will be able to plug your CPAP power supply directly into the Tessan adaptor, and to charge your phone, etc from one of the USB ports. The voltage difference that the different devices can accommodate is not an issue here.I’m getting a bit confused here, so I want to make sure i get this right.
I’ll forget about the hub of my original question, and if I understand correctly, the Tessan adapter should be sufficient as it has a 3 prong socket for my cPAP machine (whose brick voltage states 100-240V, meaning I just need an adapter so I can plug it into a Spain plug). It also has two USB-A and one USB-C ports, so I can plug my iPhone to it since their outputs are 5V, correct? No voltage conversion is needed with either the cPAP or the USB devices like iPhones. I think I would need a voltage converter if I was plugging some other single voltage (ie, 110 V) device, which is not the case. I hope I got this right, if not, let me know.
Thanks!
ETA: I just noticed my cPAP brick reads 100-240V, but the Tessan rating is 100-250V, is this difference a big deal?
Thanks!
Thanks! Much appreciated!This looks like a good solution. You will be able to plug your CPAP power supply directly into the Tessan adaptor, and to charge your phone, etc from one of the USB ports. The voltage difference that the different devices can accommodate is not an issue here.
A minor point, but this appears to reflect UK practice. In Spain, the Type F outlet is rated to 16A. Some sources suggest a Type C might be as little as 2.5A, others suggest that it can be used up to 16A. UK practice also includes installing a ring main in domestic buildings, which drives the use of individually fuzed plugs. I have only ever seen these in the UK. Certainly the Type C and Type F plugs used in Europe, US and Australian plugs are not individually fuzed. Circuits in these countries are protected at the consumer control unit (aka fuze box).Properly wired domestic electrical circuits in a building are built to take multiple loads of 13 amps - but only up to 13 amps from each socket.
A minor point, but this appears to reflect UK practice. In Spain, the Type F outlet is rated to 16A. Some sources suggest a Type C might be as little as 2.5A, others suggest that it can be used up to 16A. UK practice also includes installing a ring main in domestic buildings, which drives the use of individually fuzed plugs. I have only ever seen these in the UK. Certainly the Type C and Type F plugs used in Europe, US and Australian plugs are not individually fuzed. Circuits in these countries are protected at the consumer control unit (aka fuze box).
I don't think any of this actually affects the advice @David has offered, I am merely clarifying that the Spanish system differs in some respects from the UK.
I am more familiar with topologies that have several outlets on the one radial, but I don't know which approach is used in Spain.So each socket has their own cable and own fuse.
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