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We've given up the on idea that we will be able to take our Osprey 36 packs onboard as hand luggage on a long haul flight from Australia. That leaves us with having to check them in and hoping they arrive in Lyon at the same time as us, some 30 odd hours and three changes later. (Via Podiensis).
We'll be taking anything of value out of the packs and in hand luggage, but any suggestions on how to secure against any theft from the packs that will be in the hold would be appreciated.
Yes, I have also been alarmed at times in albergues when packs are just left unattended in a big pile awaiting transport while the hospitalero if off cleaning somewhere. In the past you put the money in an envelope attached to the bag and I always wondered if there was ever theft involved before the JacoTrans guy came by to get it? It would be easy to take the money by just removing the envelope without even pilfering the bag. I know with the Correos system you can pay online. I have only shipped my bag one time and worried sick about it all day. I arrived at my destination two hours before it did and I was SURE it was lost. (FYI, from another thread, this was how one of my shells got broken. In bag transport.)Interesting thread. Nobody talks about your backpacks in busses in Spain or Portugal.
Traveling e.g.to Ferrol on the Caminho Ingles or from or to Porto or any airport.
Busses have enormous luggage compartments underneath with big horizontal lifting doors at both sides of the bus.
you sit like a king waiting in the bus to go ,meanwhile your precious luggage is unattented underneath you. The driver is checking tickets or covid related documents .
Nobody takes care about the wide opened compartment especially at the left side of the bus .
There are many stories on this forum about this matter.
I noticed it myself taken the bus from Santiago to Ferrol. It stopped nearby a market.
Doors wide open ,people placing prams, bags full of vegetables etc , queing up to get it the bus and the luggage compartment was open for over 5 minutes just in a normal street. We coupled our packs together with two musketon hooks so a thief in a hurry does not expect a double pack .
And when the bus stopped I went out the bus to keep an eye on our belongings which by the way always are packed in a fluorescent yellow transportbag/raincover.
sort of looks like the one i will be using! Didnt know IKEA had those....oh well....No one has mentioned the tried and true IKEA blue zip bag. It’s so light you can tuck it in your pack and is so sturdy. Fits poles and pack.
Yes, that's the one I mentioned above.No one has mentioned the tried and true IKEA blue zip bag. It’s so light you can tuck it in your pack and is so sturdy. Fits poles and pack.
With those restrictions I would offload the most easily replaceable gear into one duffel between the two of you to check in, and carry your now lighter weight backpacks into the cabin.A couple of reasons, mainly the Singapore air baggage regulations, which states
- Up to 7kg each
- Sum of length, width and height of each piece should not exceed 115cm. We aim at carrying around 8 or so kg in our packs, so they're overweight to start with, also we have poles, which we could check in or purchase new ones in Europe when we arrive but without going into too much detail, after the Via Podiensis and the Del Norte we fly to Scotland for a walk, then Croatia for a walk then Turkey for a walk, we'd have to either check them in or throw them away, so we were hoping to get some system in place to use over and over.
These are the sort of packs you use together with a strong padlock. You'll find something similar locally.
I've done this and it worked fine. Agree that unwrapping can be a bit tedious!Have it wrapped in clingfilm at the airport.
Unwrapping these things is time consuming
I put my pack and poles in a box, taped it up, and put it on the belt. Got a funny look from some as i waited in line: an international traveler with no luggage, but a cardboard box.We've given up the on idea that we will be able to take our Osprey 36 packs onboard as hand luggage on a long haul flight from Australia. That leaves us with having to check them in and hoping they arrive in Lyon at the same time as us, some 30 odd hours and three changes later. (Via Podiensis).
We'll be taking anything of value out of the packs and in hand luggage, but any suggestions on how to secure against any theft from the packs that will be in the hold would be appreciated.
Yes, there was another previous mention, below, before no one mentioned it!!Yes, that's the one I mentioned above.
... I put mine in an Ikea Fraktal duffle (~$13USD for a 2-pack in 2019) since I had a pen knife and trekking poles ...
If you're taking the checked in route. Perhaps the Osprey Airporter would give additional piece of mind?We've given up the on idea that we will be able to take our Osprey 36 packs onboard as hand luggage on a long haul flight from Australia. That leaves us with having to check them in and hoping they arrive in Lyon at the same time as us, some 30 odd hours and three changes later. (Via Podiensis).
We'll be taking anything of value out of the packs and in hand luggage, but any suggestions on how to secure against any theft from the packs that will be in the hold would be appreciated.
I don't know that thieves know what you have packed or brought onboard. There are many stories of people stashing valuables in their luggage (including medications they need to take during the flight), and I imagine thieves count on human error.If you have your wallet, etc. with you, what in the world would be in your pack that would be of interest to a thief?
First I will say I never check luggage. As mentioned in the past, many years ago I heard a travel expert say there are 2 kinds of luggage: Carry on and lost.We've given up the on idea that we will be able to take our Osprey 36 packs onboard as hand luggage on a long haul flight from Australia. That leaves us with having to check them in and hoping they arrive in Lyon at the same time as us, some 30 odd hours and three changes later. (Via Podiensis).
We'll be taking anything of value out of the packs and in hand luggage, but any suggestions on how to secure against any theft from the packs that will be in the hold would be appreciated.
Don’t unwrap it just take the little scissors on your Swiss Army knife and cut top to bottomI've done this and it worked fine. Agree that unwrapping can be a bit tedious!
What could they possibly want to steal from your packs? Underwear? Towels? Clothes? Toothbrush?We've given up the on idea that we will be able to take our Osprey 36 packs onboard as hand luggage on a long haul flight from Australia. That leaves us with having to check them in and hoping they arrive in Lyon at the same time as us, some 30 odd hours and three changes later. (Via Podiensis).
We'll be taking anything of value out of the packs and in hand luggage, but any suggestions on how to secure against any theft from the packs that will be in the hold would be appreciated.
But isn't the Swiss Army knife with the little scissors inside the plastic-wrapped backpack?Don’t unwrap it just take the little scissors on your Swiss Army knife and cut top to bottom
Exactly!But isn't the Swiss Army knife with the little scissors inside the plastic-wrapped backpack?
Loved this idea. Bought one from the local IKEA and my ATMOS 50 easily fit inside loaded.No one has mentioned the tried and true IKEA blue zip bag. It’s so light you can tuck it in your pack and is so sturdy. Fits poles and pack.
No.Has anyone on the forum ever had anything stolen from a backpack? Just wondering.
After I posted this post about I week ago I was ready to go to Santiago for doing voluntairy work at the Pilgrims Office , where I am now.Interesting thread. Nobody talks about your backpacks in busses in Spain or Portugal.
Traveling e.g.to Ferrol on the Caminho Ingles or from or to Porto or any airport.
Busses have enormous luggage compartments underneath with big horizontal lifting doors at both sides of the bus.
you sit like a king waiting in the bus to go ,meanwhile your precious luggage is unattented underneath you. The driver is checking tickets or covid related documents .
Nobody takes care about the wide opened compartment especially at the left side of the bus .
There are many stories on this forum about this matter.
I noticed it myself taken the bus from Santiago to Ferrol. It stopped nearby a market.
Doors wide open ,people placing prams, bags full of vegetables etc , queing up to get it the bus and the luggage compartment was open for over 5 minutes just in a normal street. We coupled our packs together with two musketon hooks so a thief in a hurry does not expect a double pack .
And when the bus stopped I went out the bus to keep an eye on our belongings which by the way always are packed in a fluorescent yellow transportbag/raincover.
We do the same, and once on camino hang our packs in them from the frame of the bunks to keep bedbugs out. The bag makes life a lot easier for the baggage-handling staff and prevents it getting snagged in the machinery, as well keeping the pack clean and dry. Thieves are like the rest of us, they expect a high reward for their risk so are much more likely to go for Louis Vuitton suitcases than Decathlon (or Osprey for that matter) backpacks.No.
I've checked my pack in a lightweight bag, mostly to protect it from snagging equipment and to keep the straps contained. I can't imagine anyone stealing anything from it. Used socks or a 7 year-old Altus anyone?
Yes, my daughter traveling with me in South America had an MP3 player stolen from a pouch in a backpack. We figured it was highly visible on x-ray, and easy to remove.Has anyone on the forum ever had anything stolen from a backpack? Just wondering.
I would go further and say to take all cash attached to your body. It is too easy to set something down for a moment and have it disappear. Or it has even happened that I might lose something without assistance!take all valuables in a small bag into the plane.
Anything valuable is either on my person or in a carry-on day pack.We've given up the on idea that we will be able to take our Osprey 36 packs onboard as hand luggage on a long haul flight from Australia. That leaves us with having to check them in and hoping they arrive in Lyon at the same time as us, some 30 odd hours and three changes later. (Via Podiensis).
We'll be taking anything of value out of the packs and in hand luggage, but any suggestions on how to secure against any theft from the packs that will be in the hold would be appreciated.
This is what I'm worried about. I'm almost not at all worried about theft because it seems like a lower chance of that happening than getting a bag lost. I've had bags delayed multiple times and one time I arrived back in Madrid from Morocco and didn't see my bag again until a month after I returned home to the U.S.Personally, I never check my bag. I carry it on. I've seen too many pilgrims end up in Madrid minus their packs and have to re-stock everything before walking. One fellow in my group didn't get his pack until 2 weeks after returning home.
It's been years but in 2013 I put our packs in duffel bags or large laundry bags with straps mainly to protect the packs and possibility of straps snagging on something in baggage. Still not a guarantee against theft but a laundry bag is a lot less interesting and tempting than a backpack and cheaper than a suitcase.We've given up the on idea that we will be able to take our Osprey 36 packs onboard as hand luggage on a long haul flight from Australia. That leaves us with having to check them in and hoping they arrive in Lyon at the same time as us, some 30 odd hours and three changes later. (Via Podiensis).
We'll be taking anything of value out of the packs and in hand luggage, but any suggestions on how to secure against any theft from the packs that will be in the hold would be appreciated.
What airline?I have always taken my 48L Osprey on board with me. Never an issue. Dimentions and weight are within requirements. Buy poles upon arrival. Easy peasy.
These are handy bags.Get two of these bags, put your pack in one, zip, and put that in the second bag with the zipper at the bottom of the second bag. You can find them at Chinese shops. The cost of two bag are usually cheaper than having your pack wrapped at the airport. No one want to unzip two bags just to get to your pack. Some can use the bags at your destination when you dispose of them.
Yes the CPAP is the one bulky item I can't go without so my pack is also inevitably a bit bigger. But that makes it easier on all the people in the dorm! There is also the other factor that not everyone can hop on a plane, walk a camino, and fly straight back home. Some have to go on to other destinations, so luggage is a bit more, and has to be checked in.I have always checked my bag, and will continue to do so. It is outside the carry-on dimensions for most airlines, and I carry things that are not permitted as carry-on. Sure if it is too big to carry as luggage, ie over 32 kg, I would agree with you that probably is a bit heavy!! Other than the issue of linear dimensions, I face a 7kg carry-on weight limit for most flights getting out of my home town. I haven't been down to that weight for any of my pilgrimage walks, nor am I tempted to try by doing any more weight reduction than I already do.
This comment puts you in the same category as all those of average size or under who loudly proclaim that no-one needs to carry anything larger than a 35 li pack. They clearly don't understand the relationship between body size and clothing dimensions that make this impossible for those of us who are taller and heavier. This is aside from age and some associated medical conditions requiring additional equipment and medications. Although I guess I could leave my CPAP at home and return to being the loudest snorer in a dormitory.
Incidentally, I've just ordered one of these bags, and then found your post. I've always had to check my bag, and have wrapped them in the past. These bags appeal to me because they don't have zippers that can break, they may double as a pack liner (although probably a bit heavy), and for me there's another reason: I'm going to join some friends for a spot of "slack packing". These bags looked ideal for transfers between overnight stops. I'm quite excited to go walking in Denmark for the first time, although I'll be back on the Camino in Spain asap!These are the sort of packs you use together with a strong padlock. You'll find something similar locally.
Depending on the quality they can last for only a few trips as the airport handling can be unforgiving. They are particularly good for multiple packs as you can combine and save on the airline cost.
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we used collapsible airline duffel bags that zip (and fold up real small in their own pouch) for our packs, they worked beautifully for travel & flights, then packed away once we arrived. Later we used them again to ship ahead all the stuff we packed but weren't using... double duty! bom Camino! R&M~These are handy bags.
As mentioned above, I've just ordered a Pro-Tector Rucksack Cover from this website:we used collapsible airline duffel bags that zip (and fold up real small in their own pouch) for our packs, they worked beautifully for travel & flights, then packed away once we arrived. Later we used them again to ship ahead all the stuff we packed but weren't using... double duty! bom Camino! R&M~
My favorite is still the easiest and cheapest, buy a box of kitchen plastic wrap( Saran?) and wrap it tight around the entire pack and straps, use the whole roll , used to be $1.29 .make sure to cover all straps and pockets . Keeps it clean in the belly of the plane , no one can go thru the contents and the straps don’t get caught on a conveyer. Cut it off carefully and go , buy another roll where you leave , nothing to carry on the trail. Works for meReturning to the original question - you don't secure your backpack against theft. You may do your best to make access difficult, or to protect the pack, but the very best way to protect anything against theft.. complete sentence in less than ten words!!!Wishing you, OP, and all, trouble free journeys with your luggage, on board or in the hold.
A couple of reasons, mainly the Singapore air baggage regulations, which states
- Up to 7kg each
- Sum of length, width and height of each piece should not exceed 115cm. We aim at carrying around 8 or so kg in our packs, so they're overweight to start with, also we have poles, which we could check in or purchase new ones in Europe when we arrive but without going into too much detail, after the Via Podiensis and the Del Norte we fly to Scotland for a walk, then Croatia for a walk then Turkey for a walk, we'd have to either check them in or throw them away, so we were hoping to get some system in place to use over and over.
we used collapsible airline duffel bags that zip (and fold up real small in their own pouch) for our packs, they worked beautifully for travel & flights, then packed away once we arrived. Later we used them again to ship ahead all the stuff we packed but weren't using... double duty! bom Camino! R&M~
Updated may 2022. KLM nor Schiphol (Amsterdam Airport ) do not feel any reponsability. Travel insurance have the “small “ letters and does not feel any responsibility neither. At the end a very sad ending and my conclusion is never again fly KLM or start or end up in Amsterdam. Fortunately Brussels Airport in Belgium is as far as Schiphol and as an alternative for flights to Spain or Portugal there is Eindhoven airport so I don’t need this criminal and losers airport and flight company.After I posted this post about I week ago I was ready to go to Santiago for doing voluntairy work at the Pilgrims Office , where I am now.
I had an unpleasant experience checking in last Saturday at Amsterdam airport
I took a small suitcase which fitts in the overhead compartment in the plane.
I checked in and at the very last moment I was told by the grondstaff to put my suitcase on the belt
The suitcase had only a zipper so I refused placing it on the belt but she insisted
So there went my suitcase into the luggage collecting cellar
Long story short. Arriving in Porto Portugal my money was disappeared out of my suitcase .260€.
Send a reclamation to KLM but no reply and asked the police for a protocol for robbing by the groundstaff. To be continued
So keep your pack locked up and if not possible to do that, take all valuables in a small bag into the plane.
So in my case , handluggage does not guarantee to get it on board with you .
I have a REI trail 40 pack and was hoping this will fit as a carryon? Seems to be ok as far as measurements for United, however do you check yours because of "fitting issues" for carryon or just personal choice?Along these same lines, I bought a 60L stuff sack at REI that fits my REI Trail 40 pack with room to spare, is durable/lightweight/reusable, and packs down to practically nothing (it fits nicely in the rain cover compartment of my pack along with the rain cover). I plan on having it handy if I have to check my bag during my travels for whatever reason (securing the drawcords will be the only problem, but one easily solved with a bit of duct tape) - and it will also come in useful for bedbug-proofing my pack in accommodations along the way.
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(I'm also curious why OP is so worried about baggage theft in general, but we all have our particular concerns about things so I'm in no position to criticize or question.)
I stuffed my back in a box and taped it up. It arrived safely. I did, however, get some strange looks from other passengers being the only passenger with no luggage but a cardboard box.We've given up the on idea that we will be able to take our Osprey 36 packs onboard as hand luggage on a long haul flight from Australia. That leaves us with having to check them in and hoping they arrive in Lyon at the same time as us, some 30 odd hours and three changes later. (Via Podiensis).
We'll be taking anything of value out of the packs and in hand luggage, but any suggestions on how to secure against any theft from the packs that will be in the hold would be appreciated.
we carried on, no questions asked, not a problem. we flew Lufstanza, they were very nice.I have a REI trail 40 pack and was hoping this will fit as a carryon? Seems to be ok as far as measurements for United, however do you check yours because of "fitting issues" for carryon or just personal choice?
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