- Time of past OR future Camino
- Various routes 2016 - 2024
Thank you. I think that I misunderstood the point of your post.
Yes, many more of us will survive if we all do what's necessary to slow the spread of this virus.
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Thank you. I think that I misunderstood the point of your post.And many won't survive this one either. But also many more won't if we don't use some common sense.
I remember many times groups of let's say four people sitting at the same table in the bar all staring at their smart phones (are there any non-smart ones anymore?) dropping a line here or there. They could've done that easy with face masks I think. But suddenly there's a problem and a lot of folks complaining. Really? That's why I'm mentioning all those tragedies.
This is my point really...a lot of this is avoidable and capable of being reduced.And many won't survive this one either. But also many more won't if we don't use some common sense.
I remember many times groups of let's say four people sitting at the same table in the bar all staring at their smart phones (are there any non-smart ones anymore?) dropping a line here or there. They could've done that easy with face masks I think. But suddenly there's a problem and a lot of folks complaining. Really? That's why I'm mentioning all those tragedies.
Exactly!
People in Leningrad survived, Stalingrad, Sarajevo, WW1&2, Spanish Flu, you name it. And all of mentioned lasted quite longer than recent virus spread.
It ain't over yet.
Despair or carry on?...I think a pause is a better option. Time to be reflective and think...and when the time is right to carry on and enjoy.Sadly, I think you are right. But what do we do, despair? Or carry on, like mankind has always done?
Sadly, I think you are right. But what do we do, despair? Or carry on, like mankind has always done?
I like that...a "pause", hope so!Despair or carry on?...I think a pause is a better option. Time to be reflective and think...and when the time is right to carry on and enjoy.
I'm with you on that....who knows, when this is all over it may turn out better.Patience. Pandemics have lifespans and this one will either peter out on its own or we will learn how to treat it or find an effective vaccine. In the meantime, I plan to avoid getting it! If that means postponing my next Camino, so be it. And, at 65, I'm not getting any younger.
I live in hope it isn't...but, in a way, that depends on us.The ‘pause’ could be a long one...
I know, but a pause suggests there will be an end, where as despair can sometimes have no end...and in the mean time it's too soon to carry on as before.The ‘pause’ could be a long one...
You’re right and ... sadly today I have not much faith in ‘us’. I visited my son in Oxford this week-end and everywhere we walked..... really... there were discarded masks on the ground. Our youngest grandchild was with us and I felt shame.I live in hope it isn't...but, in a way, that depends on us.
I'm sorry. A lot of my faith in human behaviour is being tested on a daily basis as well.You’re right and ... sadly today I have not much faith in ‘us’. I visited my son in Oxford this week-end and everywhere we walked..... really... there were discarded masks on the ground. Our youngest grandchild was with us and I felt shame.
Yes, but will humankind pass this test or fail...it takes all of us to participate and pass this particular test in order for it to have a successful outcome.This could be the test we all needed.
So far some of us are...and some of us aren't.Yes, but will humankind pass this test or fail...it takes all of us to pass this particular test in order for it to have a successful outcome.
I'm with you on that....who knows, when this is all over it may turn out better.
At the moment I am delaying...going to bed.(
While, I, as a senior, know it is hard for us retirees to delay walking, thinking our time to walk On the camino is limited, I am so grateful for having been able to journey for many years. I am retired, have a home and am comfortable. I keep thinking and, yes, praying for so many hospitalized people here in my own country who have children who are home, parents who have no income and are going to food banks, refugees all over the world with no clean water to prevent the spread of the virus. Let us look forward to walking again while balancing all the blessing most of us enjoy.
On our short time scale, yes. Ths flu in 1918 took a few years to burn out. But people survived, as we will; how long it takes depends on what we do.The ‘pause’ could be a long one...
Thank you @VNwalking .On our short time scale, yes. Ths flu in 1918 took a few years to burn out. But people survived, as we will; how long it takes depends on what we do.
A few years is actually nothing much in the sweep of human history. We need a little patience, which is no small task to cultivate - it's in particularly short supply thanks to our instant gratification culture. Four short months of restraint and people are going a little nuts - https://www.theguardian.com/music/2020/jun/30/off-their-heads-the-shocking-return-of-the-rave
I relate to this and could have just as well written it myself!"Reports that say something hasn't happened are always interesting to me because as we know there are known unknowns, there are things we know we know.... but there are also unknown unknowns - the ones we don't know we don't know."
Oh yes it can, sadly . Hospitals struggling to cope with current numbers of ill people in summer. Add people needing care because of the yearly flu. One set will crowd out the other, resulting in more fatalities for both.The virus is a respiratory virus and by nature more virulent in winter? It's blowing through the USA in the heat of the summer when many felt confident it would die out in the heat. Not sure it can get much worse in winter.
Of that I have no doubt. I would hope for a cleaner, kinder and more responsible world. It is a thoughtless minority which have given me doubts.The sun will rise again tomorrow
It's not the end of the world
The minority is the weakest link you have spoken of often...unfortunately there are quite a few of those weak links about.Of that I have no doubt. I would hope for a cleaner, kinder and more responsible world. It is a thoughtless minority which have given me doubts.
I am a Nurse-Midwife trying to take care of the age group (18-40) that seems to be spreading this virus the most with "Covid parties" and refusals to wear masks and social distance "because Covid is a hoax and I wont be told what to do". I had a patient refuse to wear a mask at her office appointment last week as our Covid numbers soared, despite multiple requests to do so and it being the law in California. She wrote me up because I was curtly polite to her at that visit. I am working really hard to stay healthy so I CAN take care of Covid Karen and Kens like her. But... I have no children, my husband died this past March from cancer, so if I get sick I am truly alone. And unfortunately, I do not have a choice about taking care of her or anyone else who thinks they can be irresponsible regarding this. PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE help us take care of you!!! ( Well I do have a choice, but it would require quitting my job and losing my healthcare, so sort of a choice)
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