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thanks so much- yep i will ditch the scrubba and some socks. still deliberating on taking the quilt or not but my apex jacket is of the same material and am thinking with the wool base layer should be ok but will watch the temps. as for skyedogstudio my daughter named my art studio after our dog skye- named after one of my favorite places on the planet! whoops! i told you and didn't even get any wine for it!!!
))thanks- great idea !
I like to bring three pair of socks, that way I can change out of sweaty socks midday if necessary, and I have a backup pair in case one goes missing off the clothesline.thanks so much- yep i will ditch the scrubba and some socks. still deliberating on taking the quilt or not but my apex jacket is of the same material and am thinking with the wool base layer should be ok but will watch the temps. as for skyedogstudio my daughter named my art studio after our dog skye- named after one of my favorite places on the planet! whoops! i told you and didn't even get any wine for it!!!
oh i didn't answer- this list is everything i will have including what i'm wearing. i like all of your suggestions. where do you weigh in on taking a camera and stashing the phone? I have a little canon g7x i love and really hate carrying the phone, but it seems like such a pain to carry both. as for the laundry, the sheets are from amazon "tru earth eco-strips laundry detergent (fragrance free) and yes i thought i'd share them. on the passport- do i keep that in my everyday bag with daily cash to show to alberges or will a copy of the passport suffice? anyway- i don't want to overthink this and the whole point is to go with the flow but some things are nice to know! i appreciate itHey - good list .. I see that you have chosen quality gear ....
thoughts?
I like your little pocket knife ... but you would be amazed how often you are holding a bottle of wine and there is no corkscrew, apparently for miles) so for me I need a corkscrew so carry a Swiss Army knife (also has scissors, toothpick, tweezers, etc.
You have a pair of trousers and a pair of shorts .. if you are going weight conscious you could get some zip-offs then you would have trousers and shorts combined?
You seem to have five pairs of socks .. as you can only wear one pair at a time why not take just two pairs .. one on, one off? - it is a good rule of thumb; wear one, pack one ... wash that day when you change and if not dry in the morning you can use your safety pins to pin clothes to your pack - of which, don't take ordinary safety pins, take nappy pins (diaper pins) as they are stronger and lock shut.
Soo .. hang on! Is this a backpack list with you already dressed for Camino? If so drop one of everything!! Or rather, complete your list and then take out of it what you need to wear!
Wear one - pack one. .. except for cold weather back ups.
Neat on taking extra hiking pole tips!! get more!!
Ear plugs - if possible try to keep the spare ones separate, then when you lose yours you will have a secreted back up.
You already have a torch on your phone so you could lose the headlamp.
Do you need to carry a month's supply of laundry discs (whatever they are, I am English) .. you could take just a few and buy/share the odd container when out there when needed.
Personal thing here, but, chapstick .. my experience, observing many people, is that the moment you start to use a lip balm the body stops producing lubricant and you need more and more .. for me - I never use it.
The hand sanitiser is for what?
Duct tape? Fab - it is like the force; it has a dark side, a light side, and it holds the universe together.
Used up toiler paper centre roll, cut to size, makes a good wrap around holder for gaffer tape (sorry, duct tape).
Don't forget to take a needle and some thread - can go in your first aid kit - you never know when a seam will come apart or a button becomes loose. I usually carry a small tube of superglue as well - once I glued my backpack back together, and also my hiking sandals.
You may want to carry some tissues in a waterproof sandwich bag - handy as tissues, handy as toilet paper.
Take some over the counter painkillers.
You use Imperial measures - ok, I am a Brit and think both ... the French were pretty smart when they introduced the metric system - a litre of water weighs a kilo, exactly - a kilo is 2.2 pounds (UK).
Food? will depend on how you want to provide for yourself .... you may simply buy a large bocadillo in a village shop in the morning to keep for lunch, or buy ingredients and make your own - so glad you are taking a spork - how else does one eat yoghurt!! ... same with cooking in the evenings .... were you to always carry cheese and sausage and a little pasta you can make a meal any evening. I tend to carry sea salt, black pepper, olive oil .... helps, every time!
Oh - take a universal sink plug!! You can use it in the shower to fill the shower tray enough to soak your feet whilst you shower, and you will be surprised at how many refugio sinks do not have plugs!!
You could photograph all your documents, travel ins, passport, etc then you will have them on your phone (and backed up online) in case of need - also .. think about how you will be caqrrying cash. The Camino is mainly a cash economy and the safest way is to carry a few days supply in a go-to place and your main stash elsewhere, such as a flat body belt.
Looking forward to reading other responses - I like the way you are working on this.
Buen Camino - oh, was out there last April and I was really cold all the time .. then got ill ... other years it is warm, so do check the forecasts before you go - Accuweather is pretty good - https://www.accuweather.com/
p.s. I would like to meet you out there .. sit you down, pour some Rioja into you ... and then casually ask why Skyedogstudio
oh i didn't answer- this list is everything i will have including what i'm wearing. i like all of your suggestions. where do you weigh in on taking a camera and stashing the phone? I have a little canon g7x i love and really hate carrying the phone, but it seems like such a pain to carry both. as for the laundry, the sheets are from amazon "tru earth eco-strips laundry detergent (fragrance free) and yes i thought i'd share them. on the passport- do i keep that in my everyday bag with daily cash to show to alberges or will a copy of the passport suffice? anyway- i don't want to overthink this and the whole point is to go with the flow but some things are nice to know! i appreciate it
I use a similar product, and use half a sheet each time I was my clothes. I bring enough to use a half a sheet every day, and they only weigh about 1.5 ounces total
also i like two buffs one for a wrist sweat-wipe the other for neck, head whatever...thanks so much i sm taking all into consideration!!! btw i have used the gorilla 40 a lot but just thought the sit pad might be a waste and to replace it with items to store. - havent gone out with it like that yet it was just an idea- i am going to rethink the midweight baselayer but was thinking of sleeping in that with the liner instead of bringing the quilt, but your idea on s couple thinner shirts is good too. plenty of time to test all! thanks a million
btw i am bringing poncho snd rain skirt not raincoat. the skirt has a bunch of other uses. otherwise i have the synthetic EE apex jacket for warmth for sleeping w/o the quilt. anyway i am considering all your commentsThe Gossamer Gear Gorilla is a great choice, but I am wondering how much hiking you have done, with the poncho-stuff in place of the sit-pad back pad it comes with? Or the newer airflow mesh sit-pad?
For consistency, do not count as backpack weight things that you are not actually in your backpack while walking. For example, your trekking poles. Also. . how clothes are carried on the body is quite different than how weight in a backpack is carried.
Raincoat AND poncho? I'd choose one or the other. I know that you are thinking of using the poncho as the GG Gorilla back pad, but for ease of use, and quick deployment to take on and off for sprinkles and rain, I'd keep it in a side pocket.
The guide book: what I did was use the Maps only Brierley version, after cutting out anything that WASN'T a map, so I could jot notes on it referencing stuff I wanted to recall at locations I was at. I used a phone app for anything information based. . .I found the Wisely app to be useful.
The EE quilt, at that weight, is probably rated (depending on the model) in the 20 to 30F range. EE rates their temps based on someone who sleeps nekkid in the quilt, outside, and without a tent. For me, that is too warm for that time of year on Camino.
I only take two, long sleeved shirts - one to wear (which is my baselayer) and one in the backpack as a second layer and as my clean shirt to change into after a day's hike. Long sleeves can be rolled up if I want bare skin, but for sun and heat protection, or chill, they stay down.
I would think of combining functions and choose either the Sea to Summit pack (which is what I carry) and the GG fanny pack. Choose to take only one.
The dry bags are heavier than an equivalent - and equally effective - silnylon stuff sack.
Two Buffs?
The mid-weight baselayers are too heavy for that time of year. I would switch to the lightweight versions and save the weight. Keep in mind that it is the thinner layers of two long-sleeved shirts that provide a much better thermo-regulation over a broad temperature range.
If you are taking a long-sleeved button down shirt, ditch one of the other long sleeved shirts.
I have not encountered a situation on Camino where I regretted NOT carrying eating utensils.
Headlamp. . . IF you are going to do walking in the black of night, maybe. But I bet it will never be used. Next to snoring - which can't be helped, using a headlamp in an albergue is exceedingly aggravating to others - which can be helped.
After arriving on Camino, purchase a travel-sized bottle of hand sanitizer in liquid form and skip the spray.
The towel. . . . wow. A bit too big and heavy, and I wonder how effective it will be as a one-sided dorm-bed barrier
HikeGoo can be decanted into a ziplock bag to make it more packable and to save some weight.
Duct tape, wrapped around a trekking pole shaft will have usability, but I would also include something that sticks better to synthetics, like Tenacious Tape.
I do not dangle stuff outside the pack, so the Freshette might be better served stored in the outside mesh pocket of the Gorilla backpack. Just a thought.
lol!!!Three socks ok. I have a tradition: every time I loose one pair of socks on the first day of camino. One pair left in Madrid hostel bed, another in train... So, with three socks I'll still have two pairs left. That's enough. Otherwise, if you can carry it, take what you need. I'll have a pink hairdryer, so can't give much of advice
thanks so much i sm taking all into consideration!!! btw i have used the gorilla 40 a lot but just thought the sit pad might be a waste and to replace it with items to store. - havent gone out with it like that yet it was just an idea- i am going to rethink the midweight baselayer but was thinking of sleeping in that with the liner instead of bringing the quilt, but your idea on s couple thinner shirts is good too. plenty of time to test all! thanks a million
btw i am bringing poncho snd rain skirt not raincoat. the skirt has a bunch of other uses. otherwise i have the synthetic EE apex jacket for warmth for sleeping w/o the quilt. anyway i am considering all your comments
it's a ULA rain kilt. I only backpack and walk in running shorts, and most of the time my legs stay dry. If they get wet, no biggie, they dry just fine But if the weather is cool and the rain cold, I'll sometimes pull the rain kilt out of the side pocket that I also keep the poncho in.I use a rain kilt, too.
thanks! i don't know how to PM on here!! - i have asked GG to please let me know when a small size new pad is available as my pack is a small. sometimes i fold up a thermarest pad and stick that in the sit pad slot on my gorilla - which i love - but i understand we don't need to bring a sleeping pad on the camino, right? i only think i hope i don't end up having to sleep outside!!The newer air mesh sitpad is definitely a benefit, and it does add some additional support to the main bag. When I was gear testing the Mariposa for Gossamer Gear, my final report strongly advocated for a pad to increase circulation. I think a lot of consumers also gave a similar feedback. So I was thrilled that GG sent me a production prodotype of the airflow pad, and I really like how it works with all of my larger GG backpacks.
Also, it does work well as an actual pad for sitting on, too.
If I can be of any help, feel free to send me a PM.
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One little mention about your mention about the 5 pairs of socks. You may be right about the socks that she wears under the socks that she wears. I mean maybe they are socks too but with so many of her items I have no idea what the brands are, and whether they are good or not, or worth bringing. I take 3 pairs of socks with me. I know I could get by with 2 but I always somehow manage to lose a sock or two on every camino. I was advised by the owner of the running store in the town that I used to live in to buy as he put it, "your grandmothers synthetic socks that are really thin and will absorb sweat and help prevent blisters from walking" He is also the man, along with his 3 employees who all pointed to Cascadia Trail Runners after I went in and told them I had been wearing some Merrill shoes and was getting bad blisters blisters training for the Camino. I took his advice based on the fact that my friend who brought me in the store back in 2012 told me that the owner was at the time the #2 Ultra Marathoner in the world and that Ashland, Oregon which was my home was a top training area for these people. I had no idea what an Ultra Marathoner was at the time. But he sure knew his stuff and I listened to all his foot advice and I have only had 4 blisters in 5 Caminos and I walk full caminos all the time. I would love to hear a foot conversation between this guy and Señor @davebugg I bet it would be an interesting conversation for all us camino addicts. I would recommend those grandma socks to everyone to check out. I have no idea what they are called but you can find them in REI (or at least you could a few years ago). I also love the Wigwam socks. They are a little cheaper (I think) then the Smartwool socks. Don't smell too bad when I don't wash them too well. They never itch my feet as am a delicate lad with delicate skin, and I think they last a really long time and dry pretty darn quick too.Hey - good list .. I see that you have chosen quality gear ....
thoughts?
I like your little pocket knife ... but you would be amazed how often you are holding a bottle of wine and there is no corkscrew, apparently for miles) so for me I need a corkscrew so carry a Swiss Army knife (also has scissors, toothpick, tweezers, etc.
You have a pair of trousers and a pair of shorts .. if you are going weight conscious you could get some zip-offs then you would have trousers and shorts combined?
You seem to have five pairs of socks .. as you can only wear one pair at a time why not take just two pairs .. one on, one off? - it is a good rule of thumb; wear one, pack one ... wash that day when you change and if not dry in the morning you can use your safety pins to pin clothes to your pack - of which, don't take ordinary safety pins, take nappy pins (diaper pins) as they are stronger and lock shut.
Soo .. hang on! Is this a backpack list with you already dressed for Camino? If so drop one of everything!! Or rather, complete your list and then take out of it what you need to wear!
Wear one - pack one. .. except for cold weather back ups.
Neat on taking extra hiking pole tips!! get more!!
Ear plugs - if possible try to keep the spare ones separate, then when you lose yours you will have a secreted back up.
You already have a torch on your phone so you could lose the headlamp.
Do you need to carry a month's supply of laundry discs (whatever they are, I am English) .. you could take just a few and buy/share the odd container when out there when needed.
Personal thing here, but, chapstick .. my experience, observing many people, is that the moment you start to use a lip balm the body stops producing lubricant and you need more and more .. for me - I never use it.
The hand sanitiser is for what?
Duct tape? Fab - it is like the force; it has a dark side, a light side, and it holds the universe together.
Used up toiler paper centre roll, cut to size, makes a good wrap around holder for gaffer tape (sorry, duct tape).
Don't forget to take a needle and some thread - can go in your first aid kit - you never know when a seam will come apart or a button becomes loose. I usually carry a small tube of superglue as well - once I glued my backpack back together, and also my hiking sandals. (and, yes, once my fingers).
You may want to carry some tissues in a waterproof sandwich bag - handy as tissues, handy as toilet paper.
Take some over the counter painkillers.
You use Imperial measures - ok, I am a Brit and think both ... the French were pretty smart when they introduced the metric system - a litre of water weighs a kilo, exactly - a kilo is 2.2 pounds (UK).
Food? will depend on how you want to provide for yourself .... you may simply buy a large bocadillo in a village shop in the morning to keep for lunch, or buy ingredients and make your own - so glad you are taking a spork - how else does one eat yoghurt!! ... same with cooking in the evenings .... were you to always carry cheese and sausage and a little pasta you can make a meal any evening. I tend to carry sea salt, black pepper, olive oil .... helps, every time!
Oh - take a universal sink plug!! You can use it in the shower to fill the shower tray enough to soak your feet whilst you shower, and you will be surprised at how many refugio sinks do not have plugs!!
You could photograph all your documents, travel ins, passport, etc then you will have them on your phone (and backed up online) in case of need - also .. think about how you will be caqrrying cash. The Camino is mainly a cash economy and the safest way is to carry a few days supply in a go-to place and your main stash elsewhere, such as a flat body belt.
Looking forward to reading other responses - I like the way you are working on this.
Buen Camino - oh, was out there last April and I was really cold all the time .. then got ill ... other years it is warm, so do check the forecasts before you go - Accuweather is pretty good - https://www.accuweather.com/
p.s. I would like to meet you out there .. sit you down, pour some Rioja into you ... and then casually ask why Skyedogstudio
oh i didn't answer- this list is everything i will have including what i'm wearing. i like all of your suggestions. where do you weigh in on taking a camera and stashing the phone? I have a little canon g7x i love and really hate carrying the phone, but it seems like such a pain to carry both. as for the laundry, the sheets are from amazon "tru earth eco-strips laundry detergent (fragrance free) and yes i thought i'd share them. on the passport- do i keep that in my everyday bag with daily cash to show to alberges or will a copy of the passport suffice? anyway- i don't want to overthink this and the whole point is to go with the flow but some things are nice to know! i appreciate it
In read your post with envy— I walked the Camino last year, starting in SJPP in April and the walk was a wonderful and transformative experience. The Camino forum was a great, encouraging help. Your packing list is well organized and thought out. I skimmed your list and have a few random thoughts. First, many pilgrims I encountered seemed to be carrying way more weight than they needed. The general advice to carry no more than 10% of your body weight seems to me to be excessive and perhaps to encourage people to carry too much “stuff” (just in case), often duplicates. You can get by with two pairs of socks, but three is better so that you can rotate them and always have a dry pair to put on when you want to change. I wore toe sock liners covered by Darn Tough Marino wool socks. I didn’t notice if you had a foot care kit of stuff to use to prevent or attend to blisters— you’ll definitely want/need that. You should ask for advice on what to include and use. Dave Bugg is one expert many. BTW— trail runners proved to be a good choice for foot ware for me— you will see pairs of heavy hiking boots abandoned all along the Camino.
Three socks is still three pairs
. . . Let's call them Sock A, Sock B and Sock C:
Great list! We never carry guide book or maps - there are super aps and websites which you can download on your phone. That cuts out a bit of weight. I also don’t carry much food. Most days there is plenty available along the way. Finally, I would consider taking water-resistant shoes. It can rain lots and I mean LOTS especially once you are in Galicia.
I have always gone barefoot in the shower and haven't had an issue.
You will need the quilt or a sleeping bag as the albergues don't always have sufficient heat and personally I do not like using the blankets provided, some do not provide blankets. I use a 40 degree bag.thanks so much- yep i will ditch the scrubba and some socks. still deliberating on taking the quilt or not but my apex jacket is of the same material and am thinking with the wool base layer should be ok but will watch the temps. as for skyedogstudio my daughter named my art studio after our dog skye- named after one of my favorite places on the planet! whoops! i told you and didn't even get any wine for it!!!
yes now thinking will probably end up tsking the quilt- can always send ahead if unnecessary. appreciate your help and the other suggestions-
thanks - i really like that idea. will look into it but i don't belong to costco. i don't want the bulk of a full size quilt or bag but agree the added warmth of some sort of inside-the-liner blanket would be good.
ok i see you have one of those travel bowls that folds-worth it too? (doesn't weigh much)
The Orikaso ones like these?:
I settled on putting my down blanket inside when it kept slipping off when it was outside.
Unless one pair is still damp.Three socks is still three pairs
Sock A + Sock B = pair 1
Sock A + Sock C = pair 2
Sock C + Sock B = pair 3
No?
Just keep a goodly supply of "feet heat" - damp socks soon dry out!
But much bulkier than a flat sheet of plastic! Oddly enough my daughter was down for the weekend and fancied a seaside picnic (it was sunny and we were mourning no longer being Europeans so we sat atop the White Cliffs of Dover gazing at France) - guess who didn't have a single plate in the car? Baguette crumbs all over the place!
