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The US gallon is 4 quarts (3.78 liters). The Imperial gallon is 4.55 liters.This puzzled me on my first trip to the US until I realised that a US pint weighs 16 ounces, or one Imperial pound. Why an Imperial pint weighs 20 ounces is a mystery to me, but doubtless someone on this forum knows the answer!
The US gallon is 4 quarts (3.78 liters).
A fluid ounce (unit of volume) is entirely different from the avoidupois ounce used as a unit of weight.
A footAn Imperial gallon also consists of 4 quarts, (or 8 pints) it's just that they're bigger quarts! Anyone know why?
The Imperial system is an illogical one at the best of times (16 ounces to the pound, but only 14 pounds to the stone and 8 stones to the hundredweight, which is actually 112 pounds, and 20 hundredweight to the ton, which is thus 2240 pounds!) but, fortunately, most linear, volume and liquid measurements in the UK are now metric. (Although God help any politician who tampers with the pint for measuring beer.)
My children have no idea what an inch, foot or yard looks like.
Dear Alex,I don't get it: Why don't we have common measurements? While the rest of the world is talking unified units, some places they measure all things outside the metric system.
Can't these countries please start measuring things in proper units (metric system), drive on the right side of the road, and respect the majority of the sane world?
This creates a lot of problems: how far is it from one village to the next, how much water do you need, how hot is it? I do not understand these measures, and I am in the vast majority of the world population. And still I have to translate our logical metric system to those who have no clue.
F.ex. Water freezes at 0 Celsius; 32 F. What is 32?
30F sounds hot to me. But it is 2 below the freezing point of water, so a little chilly... Snow in the air...
One km. is 1000 metres. 1 step is almost 1 metre. What could be difficult with that?
And how long is a foot? what is an inch? 2.54 cm. What does it MEAN? It is certainly within the metric system... What is an Oz???
In most countries, only drunk drivers drive on the left side of the road. In f.ex. England, I need a few pints before I can drive safely.
An expensive satellite was lost in a cooperation between USA and Europe because US course calculations were done in inches (!?) sic) instead of proper centrimetres, and the next course calculation done by the US went pretty wrong...
We have 10 fingers. 10 toes. the basics of the metric system. Please join us.
Please get it right, leftists...
Yes please!After this matter is resolved...we can discuss Esperanto.
For a while Ireland had European style distance signs in kilometres but other signs in miles (speed limits for example). Wending our way back from Belfast to Inniskillin an Irish friend and I crossed the border many times and it was a handy hint as to where you were.Before I start I will apologise to out friends from Southern Ireland.
When we joined the EU there was talk about SI changing the the side of the road they drove on to fit in with the rest of the EU. It was announced that on the week of the change cars wold change sides on the Friday with lorries changing on there Saturday. I'm not sure why but this change never happened.
I had heard that it was second coldest, after Ulan Bator in Mongolia.Ottawa is apparently the coldest “capital” city in the world (only the 3rd or 4th coldest city on earth) .....hence why i only visit a Ottawa for short periods. BTW Ottawa people skate on the 9 km long Rideau Canal in this weather
It's true the British drive (for the most part) on the left hand side of the road but so do the Irish, and the Maltese, and the Australians, and the New Zealanders, and the Japanese and . . . . in fact nearly 1/3 of the countries in the world drive on the leftI don't get it: Why don't we have common measurements? While the rest of the world is talking unified units, some places they measure all things outside the metric system.
Can't these countries please start measuring things in proper units (metric system), drive on the right side of the road, and respect the majority of the sane world?
This creates a lot of problems: how far is it from one village to the next, how much water do you need, how hot is it? I do not understand these measures, and I am in the vast majority of the world population. And still I have to translate our logical metric system to those who have no clue.
F.ex. Water freezes at 0 Celsius; 32 F. What is 32?
30F sounds hot to me. But it is 2 below the freezing point of water, so a little chilly... Snow in the air...
One km. is 1000 metres. 1 step is almost 1 metre. What could be difficult with that?
And how long is a foot? what is an inch? 2.54 cm. What does it MEAN? It is certainly within the metric system... What is an Oz???
In most countries, only drunk drivers drive on the left side of the road. In f.ex. England, I need a few pints before I can drive safely.
An expensive satellite was lost in a cooperation between USA and Europe because US course calculations were done in inches (!?) sic) instead of proper centrimetres, and the next course calculation done by the US went pretty wrong...
We have 10 fingers. 10 toes. the basics of the metric system. Please join us.
Please get it right, leftists...
As one who espouses the correct spelling of kilometre as, well, kilometre, if the distance counter on a British car is a mileometer is one on a French car a kilometer?Kilométrage
Some of us have gone metric and still kept their pounds and inches, in German/Germany for example inches (Zoll) for the diameter of screens and smartphone displays, and in particular for pipe threads, wrenches and all sorts of mechanical stuff. On markets and at the butcher's you can still ask for a pound (Pfund) of apples or for half a pound of meat and nobody bats an eyelid.Let's go metric, please. Forget about yards, inches, miles, pounds, stones, and all other irrelevant and stonage measures. Go metric.!
it’s called an odomètreAs one who espouses the correct spelling of kilometre as, well, kilometre, if the distance counter on a British car is a mileometer is one on a French car a kilometer?
Education, 'tis truly a wonderful thingit’s called an odomètreor more commonly un compteur kilométrique
Surely you meant to say kilometer-meter?As one who espouses the correct spelling of kilometre as, well, kilometre, if the distance counter on a British car is a mileometer is one on a French car a kilometer?
@Jeff Crawley: You thought kilometer-meter wasn't meant to tease you?(It was just a jest for @domigee)
Better to buy your apples in Nürnberg than in Berlin!Some of us have gone metric and still kept their pounds and inches, in German/Germany for example inches (Zoll) for the diameter of screens and smartphone displays, and in particular for pipe threads, wrenches and all sorts of mechanical stuff. On markets and at the butcher's you can still ask for a pound (Pfund) of apples or for half a pound of meat and nobody bats an eyelid.
Like everywhere throughout the ages, a pound was often not standardised: under Charlemagne, it was 406,5 g and later it could vary from region to region, 510 g in Nürnberg, 480 g in Würzburg or 467 g in Berlin (Wikipedia, didn't check it elsewhere). A bit over a hundred years ago, the newly created German Customs Union (yep, that's what it was called) decided that a pound meant 500 g from now on and it's been like this ever since.
History seems to teach us that one can either adopt a pragmatic approach or create metric martyrs.
In the early days of automobiles a lot of high-end French cars had the steering wheel on the right even though they drove on the right hand side of the street for the simple reason that, when they parked, the chauffeur could step out of the car onto the pavement more easily and open the door for Monsieur/Madame to descend.According to a Papal bull many centuries ago all people in Christian lands should ride on the left hand side of the road. In France aristocrats had priority on the left hand side of the road, all peasants had to get out of the way! This caused some resentment. After the French revolution the French government chose to make all traffic stick to the Right hand side of the road. Wherever Frances conquering armies went they imposed the "Code Napoleon" which included riding on the right. Some countries retained this system after the Russians and the British defeated Napoleon. A century and a bit later a certain Adolph Hitler imposed the right hand rule on the bits of Europe stll driving on the left. After WWII only the UK,Ireland and Sweden retained driving on the left since they had not been successfully invaded. Sweden changed over in the 1960's with advent of direct road connections to the rest of Europe.
North America changed from left to right because of technical reason. In North America there were no restrictions on the size of roads/carriages. They developed larger carriages with a longer train of driving horses. This also required an additional driver controlling the horses as well as the guy sitting on the buckboard. This guy sat on a horse on the left hand side. To avoid crashing into other large carriages it was easier to pass each other on the right so Congress adopted driving on the right sometime in the 19th Century.
Much of Asia still drives on the left.
This one?According to a Papal bull many centuries ago all people in Christian lands should ride on the left hand side of the road. In France aristocrats had priority on the left hand side of the road, all peasants had to get out of the way! This caused some resentment. After the French revolution the French government chose to make all traffic stick to the Right hand side of the road. Wherever Frances conquering armies went they imposed the "Code Napoleon" which included riding on the right. Some countries retained this system after the Russians and the British defeated Napoleon. A century and a bit later a certain Adolph Hitler imposed the right hand rule on the bits of Europe stll driving on the left. After WWII only the UK,Ireland and Sweden retained driving on the left since they had not been successfully invaded. Sweden changed over in the 1960's with advent of direct road connections to the rest of Europe.
North America changed from left to right because of technical reason. In North America there were no restrictions on the size of roads/carriages. They developed larger carriages with a longer train of driving horses. This also required an additional driver controlling the horses as well as the guy sitting on the buckboard. This guy sat on a horse on the left hand side. To avoid crashing into other large carriages it was easier to pass each other on the right so Congress adopted driving on the right sometime in the 19th Century.
Much of Asia still drives on the left.
My question: Is it right that walkers should walk on the left side in Spain?
Maybe different countries have different walking rules.
I don't think it is a Spanish thing in any way. It is widely recognized as the general rule on roads where there is regular traffic. Walking on the side facing traffic is generally the safest - then the walker can see what is coming and step aside if necessary.My question: Is it right that walkers should walk on the left side in Spain?
Part of the trouble is likely that in their home countries, many people have never become experienced in walking on roads where there is no pedestrian sidewalk/pavement. I remember being drilled in this rule as a child walking 2 km (it was 1.3 miles in those days) home from school. Another thing is that pilgrims on the camino are often not considerate enough (usually through obliviousness) to recognize the problem of having walkers on both sides, so they don't even change when reminded. I have sometimes crossed the road to walk on the wrong side, if there are walkers ahead who insist on doing so. I figure better safe than right.Maybe different countries have different walking rules. Pilgrims from all over the world walk based on their home country customs which results a mess on the camino.
But at least it is metric!And then I go and marry a guy who loves to quote temperature in Kelvin.
How about every one having the same power plugs while we're at it?I don't get it: Why don't we have common measurements? While the rest of the world is talking unified units, some places they measure all things outside the metric system.
Can't these countries please start measuring things in proper units (metric system), drive on the right side of the road, and respect the majority of the sane world?
This creates a lot of problems: how far is it from one village to the next, how much water do you need, how hot is it? I do not understand these measures, and I am in the vast majority of the world population. And still I have to translate our logical metric system to those who have no clue.
F.ex. Water freezes at 0 Celsius; 32 F. What is 32?
30F sounds hot to me. But it is 2 below the freezing point of water, so a little chilly... Snow in the air...
One km. is 1000 metres. 1 step is almost 1 metre. What could be difficult with that?
And how long is a foot? what is an inch? 2.54 cm. What does it MEAN? It is certainly within the metric system... What is an Oz???
In most countries, only drunk drivers drive on the left side of the road. In f.ex. England, I need a few pints before I can drive safely.
An expensive satellite was lost in a cooperation between USA and Europe because US course calculations were done in inches (!?) sic) instead of proper centrimetres, and the next course calculation done by the US went pretty wrong...
We have 10 fingers. 10 toes. the basics of the metric system. Please join us.
Please get it right, leftists...
Personally, I would like standardization on the sound you hear in the phone when it is ringing vs when the line is busy vs when there is a problem with the line.How about every one having the same power plugs while we're at it?
Unless you live in Tassie...we start carking it when the temp hits 23 degrees...!Thats because in Aus we know 38’s not really hot we all know it has to be over 40 to be “really hot”.
Yes please! I'll be carrying 3 adapters for the Via Francigena...& I'm still not sure if I've got it covered; bit of confusion with plug types in Switzerland & Italy. Oh...while we're all at standardising the world...what about the different voltages?How about every one having the same power plugs while we're at it?
My fingers aren't the youngest anymore and started already to hurt when I had counted to 8. In fact, I needed my other hand to keep my binary 0s and 1s in place.As a simple example, using one hand as a binary counter one can count from zero to 31, with two hands, to 1023. and with all one's fingers and toes to over one million. Why would you want to limit people to counting to five, 10 and 20?
We measure distances in miles. Petrol/Diesel in Litres. Do that in your head when the car lot salesman is talking mpg (miles per gallon).
We drink our beer in pints though we buy our Malt in Tonnes and our Hops in Kilos and brew using Bushels and Quarts.
We buy our 4/4 (4 inch by 4 inch) timber in metre length and our suiting fabric by the yard.
We weigh ourselves in Stones and Pounds, assess our rucksack capacity in Litres and get out the pocket conversion tables to work out 10% of overload.
I've never found any of this confusing.
And, as anyone who has consumed 10% more good English beer than they should have will know, it may be a mile to the pub but its a mile-and-a-half back
0 C is melting/freezing point. 100 is vapor point. Pretty metric.
because freezing is set for zero doesn’t necessarily mean it’s metric does it? Come to think of it, does metric even apply to temperature? Other things I’ve wondered about is why don’t we have a metric time system? If you’ve ever had to do time-based math you’ll know how frustrating it can be. Why is the globe divided up into 360 degrees? These are things I wonder about.
Yes. They switched to right for private cars on a Saturday and trucks on the following Sunday, I have been told. It was a mess.It's true the British drive (for the most part) on the left hand side of the road but so do the Irish, and the Maltese, and the Australians, and the New Zealanders, and the Japanese and . . . . in fact nearly 1/3 of the countries in the world drive on the lefter - didn't your neighbour Sweden do so at one time?
Neither science nor logic. Which seems even more clear today...And by the way, the reason the US did not convert to metric in 1976 was that commercial interests prevailed upon politicians to squash the change, which proves that science doesn't have a chance against politics--especially when there are re-tooling costs to consider.
Yes, it's all a mixed bag for sure, probably more than you bargained for!Neither science nor logic. Which seems even more clear today...
A good show while it lasts!Yes, it's all a mixed bag for sure, probably more than you bargained for!
Yes, but I thought you were hoping for some communal enthusiasm and cheers for the one size fits all metric system. I've had a blast being informed of "this, that and the other". The most entertaining thread of the day!A good show while it lasts!
I had a colleague once, who as a laugh at his science teachers in high school, calculated the acceleration due to gravity in rods per week per week (or rods per square week as he put it).Hehe. My mathematics teacher did that too ...
What travels at 1.8026 megafurlongs per microfortnight?
Unless you live in Tassie...we start carking it when the temp hits 23 degrees...!🌡
When I went through Kirkby Stephens while hiking Wainwright's Coast to Coast, I saw a road sign that measured distances to the surrounding towns not in kilometres or miles, but in furlongs!I don't want to meet the person who has an arm span of 5 and half yards. A rod pole and perch is 5.5 yds or 1/4 of a chain, as everyone knows a cricket wicket is 22 yds longs or a chain, which is 1 tenth 0f a furlong. There you have it decimal amounts in the imperial system. There are 20 hundredweight in a ton obviously a hundredweight is not 100 of anything but actually 112 Pound or 8 stone. This means a UK ton is 2240lbs where as a metric tonne is 100Kg or 2204 lbs the US ton is only 2000 lbs. That seems like an easy number so they tend to use 40 000 lbs 8nstead of 20.tons. odd. Don't get me started on using cups for cooking. How can you use a volume measurement for some thing like cheese. The recipe called for 1 cup of cheddar grated. Does that I measure the cheese in a solid block is 300g and then grate it or do I grate some cheese to fill the cup about 50 g. Why are US pints only 80% of a normal pint. 8 pints in a gallon a gallon of water weighs 10 lbs therefore a pint weighs 1.25 lbs or 20 OZ.
That means metric 100 degrees will not hold true during a hurricane when the atmospheric pressure drops below "standard". Nor, with global warming and rising sea levels, will it hold true a few years from now.
When I went through Kirkby Stephens while hiking Wainwright's Coast to Coast, I saw a road sign that measured distances to the surrounding towns not in kilometres or miles, but in furlongs!
Why?that is a good argument for retaining Farenhiet
They are really just jealous of your locks.or pick on me because I am a Ginger.
It had defined points that could be easily stabilised, unlike the earlier defining points for the Celcius system that used the melting and boiling points of water. But I did not realize that I had posted this earlier reply, and went off for a walk instead. My post has been changed to point out that the discussion about the melting and boiling points of water is interesting but irrelevant, as these are no longer defining points for calibration. The relevant standard (ITS-90) , has 14 defining points using different materials, only one of which is water.Why?
Good decision!went off for a walk instead.
I agree, one of my better onesGood decision!
I'm sorry, but that is just not true. The physical constants that define temperature are known and can be applied anywhere, and temperature itself will remain constant. The mere fact that physical properties of some substance, water in this case, varies does not mean that temperature itself has varied.
The other problem with @kirkie's and @jmcarp's arguments is that the melting and boiling points of water under a standard atmosphere have not been the defining points for the Kelvin and Celcius since 1948 when other measures were adopted.
Your home would be hell for Brits, Kiwis, Aussies and many Asian people! You need water to be at least 95 Celcius before you can make a decent strong cup of tea. Oh I do not mean Liptons (US version).I live at 5560 feet (1695m) above sea level. Water freezes here at approximately 28 deg F (-2 deg C), and boils at approximately 202 deg F (94 deg C), varying slightly depending on atmospheric pressure when I boil my eggs. All this proves is that whichever method we choose to define the measurement of temperature is not absolute.
Yes please! I'll be carrying 3 adapters for the Via Francigena...& I'm still not sure if I've got it covered; bit of confusion with plug types in Switzerland & Italy. Oh...while we're all at standardising the world...what about the different voltages?
Count your blessings. My engineering class had to do calculations in furlongs per fortnight. "Stone" is a unit not used in the US.
An inch was three barleycorns. A yard was the length of an arm. A rod was the length from fingertip to fingertip. (All very natural units.) Mile comes from Roman usage. Did you know there were two different kinds of ounces?
The metric system is a gift from the French, who also tried to impose a metric week (the day off coming once every ten days rather than every seven). Fortunately that innovation failed to take hold.
Well, I guess you learn something new every day. I yield my argument to the collective knowledge of the scientists who defined the International Temperature Scale. The chart below explains it all very clearlyI'm sorry, but that is just not true. The physical constants that define temperature are known and can be applied anywhere, and temperature itself will remain constant. The mere fact that physical properties of some substance, water in this case, varies does not mean that temperature itself has varied.
The other problem with @jmcarp's arguments is that the melting and boiling points of water under a standard atmosphere have not been the defining points for the Kelvin and Celcius since 1948 when other measures were adopted.
And the one riding the leftmost rear horse did so because, as most usually right handed, he could control the most horses most easily with reins or a whip.North America changed from left to right because of technical reason. In North America there were no restrictions on the size of roads/carriages. They developed larger carriages with a longer train of driving horses. This also required an additional driver controlling the horses as well as the guy sitting on the buckboard. This guy sat on a horse on the left hand side. To avoid crashing into other large carriages it was easier to pass each other on the right so Congress adopted driving on the right sometime in the 19th Century.
I haven't been able to take any of this discussion seriously!P.S. @dougfitz, I hope you recognize my tongue in cheek throughout this discussion.
Really? I accept it's important for some communities like scientists and engineers to have standards, but I really don't see a how having a standardized world is going to make it any better. In truth, I think it would be horrible.I do agree with @alexwalker that the world would be a better place if we could all agree on basic matters such as a common system of measurements.
Wouldn’t it be rods per week squared?I had a colleague once, who as a laugh at his science teachers in high school, calculated the acceleration due to gravity in rods per week per week (or rods per square week as he put it).
What word do those who measure distance in kilometres use when they talk ‘mileage’?
I guess lefties had a short life span as warriors in those days.In the past everybody rode their horses on the left because it was easier to hit the other side with the right hand in case of conflict.
I haven't been able to take any of this discussion seriously!
Really? I accept it's important for some communities like scientists and engineers to have standards, but I really don't see a how having a standardized world is going to make it any better. In truth, I think it would be horrible.
Not necessarily, as their opponent would be expecting to be attacked from a different direction.I guess lefties had a short life span as warriors in those days.
I suspect that the same guys who decreed the road rules were the same ones that rode rather than walked and who wore swords. The riding on the left would then have no advantage between two oncoming right-handed knights but the ease of clearing the road of uppity peasants would go to the horseman.In the past everybody rode their horses on the left because it was easier to hit the other side with the right hand in case of conflict.
Not only that, but an ambidextrous or sinister fighter would have been a real asset. Defenses were typically built to disadvantage a right handed attacker in hand to hand combat, and give the advantage to a right handed defender. Having someone who could fight left handed would have been quite handy.Not necessarily, as their opponent would be expecting to be attacked from a different direction.
In Canada, I now use Celsius for the temperature outside but I still use Farenheit for the temperature in my oven. In fact, I also use teaspoons and tablespoons and cups as measures in cooking and baking, but will buy the ingredients in metric units. Most measurement outside the kitchen is done in metric but I measure myself in feet and inches and pounds.I agree with @dougfitz.In Canada we are used to being confused about metric and imperial measurements so I have been happy to read other countries also have the same problems. And I use Celsius in the winter but Farenheit once the temperature is above 60.
Pretty much the same here in Australia.In the US we buy soda in 2 liter bottles, and wine in 750 ml bottles.
Us Britishers are right it's the rest of the world that's wrong.We're so clever we use both the metric and the imperial system and conversions are worked out in the head.
Also it would be very difficult to drive on the right hand side of the road because that's the side of the steering wheel.
Thanks for the info Rick; you're right, I wasn't 'watching'...I bet you only need the plug adapters for your smartphone charger. If so look at the charger you have. It probably has a printed range of input voltages, amps and frequencies that it will work with and that probably matches the standards used in most countries. So the problem then becomes how to connect your charger to the host country's electrical grid. Well, your charger probably doesn't need a third prong/slot for grounding to earth and it probably doesn't care if the two pins are plugged in one way or the other. That makes everything easier. If your charger does not work as easily as I have described then see below. If everything is OK to this point you will want a plug converter to have a female end to accept the NZ/Australian type i connector and a European type c two prong male connector. While Italy (type l) and Switzerland (type j) use different connections from each other and different from Spain's outdated type c sockets, that is for grounded connections, good for plugging in vacuum cleaners but overkill for USB chargers. The two prong type c plug has been designed to fit into the holes of other type's receptacles.
So I think you only need one two prong type c plug adapter for your trip. You may wish to tape your charger to the adapter so you won't leave the adapter behind still plugged into the outlet (the voice of experience is speaking here.)
Oh, and if your charger doesn't meet the standard configuration I described, buy a charger when you are in Europe; they will be two prong. They are a commodity.
The page below says for type c plugs: "The 19 mm separation of the pins and the pins' 4 mm length allow for its safe insertion in most Type C, Type E, Type F, Type H, and some Type L outlets." It forgot about Switzerland's type J but I've got a page for that listed too.
The main type used in Europe:
Here you can find out more about other types used in non-British influenced Europe:
- https://electricaloutlet.org/type-e
- https://electricaloutlet.org/type-f
- https://electricaloutlet.org/type-h
- https://electricaloutlet.org/type-j
- https://electricaloutlet.org/type-l
NZ/Australian connector type:
And this page has more to say about type c and Switzerland:
Also see:
Blimey Cobber. In NZ we only changed officially to the metric system in 1976.
It's just that a few of us are a bit slow in learning and we ain't up to speed yet. It takes a while you know.
An inch/foot/yard/mile doesn't cease to exist just because some twat says it does.
Further to this, in some places the left-hand side of the road is the right side. In others the right-hand side is the right side.
It's all very confusing.
I wish some smart galoot would straighten this out for us.
And a little consideration in understanding how long the assimilation of this new knowledge takes wouldn't go astray either.
Regards
Gerard.
And Gas in 7 pint Gallons (?) Or was that a long time ago?
This event was already mentioned in the first post of the thread where it was centimetres vs inches and now it’s kilometres vs miles. Neither of the two stories is the real story ...one smart man (yes a man) used 50 mile (or 80 km) above the Martian surface; but when it was imputed into the craft computers it was converted to 50 km. Result the satellite crash into the Martian surface. It took a few months to work out what had happened!!
(I understand they have now standardised on metres/kilometres etc).
Britain had a number of versions of gallons used for various items. America kept the most common one for liquids. After separation Britain decided to go with one type of liquid gallon and went with one that sort of averaged the old ones.The measurement of liquids in the US is (to my way of thinking) totally stuffed up. They use a pint of 20 fluid ounces. The trouble is that their Fl.O. is smaller than those used in Britain (and previously in Aust/NZ). Why I have not the slightest idea - all I know is that an Imperial Gal is around 4.546 litres and a US Gal is about 3.96 litres.
Don't forget that a pound of feathers is heavier than a pound of gold...
The measurement of liquids in the US is (to my way of thinking) totally stuffed up. They use a pint of 20 fluid ounces. The trouble is that their Fl.O. is smaller than those used in Britain (and previously in Aust/NZ). Why I have not the slightest idea - all I know is that an Imperial Gal is around 4.546 litres and a US Gal is about 3.96 litres.
Almost 4 liters - 3.78541 liters in a gallon, but close enough government work.Living on the US/Canadian border we worked it out that a US gallon was 4 litres
Alas, @Paladina , I LOVE walking the paths in the UK, but when the guide books give distance (sorry, I don't know what else to call it) in TIME not miles or kilometers, I get put off a bit. I wonder who is it that determines the time. Is it someone who is 25 years old, in very fit condition and 6ft, 5in (almost 2m)? If it is, I will never be able to make the time given in the guide, since I'm 74, in reasonable condition for my age, and 5ft, 2in (1.6m). Please help me understand so next time I notice time as a measurement of distance, I can try to make an adjustment in my thinking. Or maybe I've been misunderstanding the time aspect? Thanks!!The distance between villages, whether given in kilometers or miles, is no indication of the actual time of arrival. There are too many variables (terrain, weather, fitness, tiredness, etc.) to make an authoritative pronouncement. Perhaps the pied-de-roi measurement that was abolished during the French Revolution could be reintroduced as pied-de-saint for the guidance of weary pilgrims. In the meantime I’ll continue to measure my progress by time not distance, and measurements of time have not gone metric.
This is great news for you then. Since velocity is distance divided by time (V=D/T} rearrange and T=D/V and this shows you that the greater the distance the more time you have to do it.I'm 74, in reasonable condition for my age, and 5ft, 2in (1.6m). Please help me understand so next time I notice time as a measurement of distance, I can try to make an adjustment in my thinking.
Thanks @Rick of Rick and Peg! But now I'm REALLY confused. I think I'll just do as I've done, and go my own speed for as long as I want and forget about distance and time!This is great news for you then. Since velocity is distance divided by time (V=D/T} rearrange and T=D/V and this shows you that the greater the distance the more time you have to do it.
There is a castle in the UK where the spiral staircase is biased for the left-handed. Apparently the family were predominantly left handed. Interestingly the tower on the castle at Ponferrada is built to favour the left-handed too. Had any-one else noticed it spirals that way?Not only that, but an ambidextrous or sinister fighter would have been a real asset. Defenses were typically built to disadvantage a right handed attacker in hand to hand combat, and give the advantage to a right handed defender. Having someone who could fight left handed would have been quite handy.
Pure speculation, but I can see the training regime for advanced hand to hand combat skills in the middle ages paying as much attention to fighting left handed as modern football training paying to kicking equally well with one's non-dominant foot.
Oh you can be cruel, just to enlighten you I’ve never seen a sign the mentions KM, we still buy food in pounds of kilos, is oldies still use the imperial system. And as for making up our minds, we know what we want, it’s the idiots in charge that are confused and methinks that’s the same in every country.Clever??????? This from a country that cannot decide what it wants to do tomorrow or next week; next year.
But seriously you use a decimal currency (100 new pence to a Pound, the 1972 change!); your road speed signs are in both Miles & KM per hour. Most of your meat; chicken; fruit & veg are sold in grams & kilos. I think its just your rugby footballers who are described as being XXX Stones (but XXXX CM tall). Still you do speak English - most of the time!!!
Here! Here! Me!Interestingly the tower on the castle at Ponferrada is built to favour the left-handed too. Had any-one else noticed it spirals that way?
Yep, take Sweden for example. A non-binding referendum on the introduction of right hand traffic was held in Sweden on 16 October 1955. The voter turnout was 53.2%. 15 % voted in favour and 83 % voted against it. A clear Vote of The People. Despite this, the Swedish Parliament voted in favour of the change eight years later in 1963 and look at the mess the country and their traffic is in now. Or is it not?And as for making up our minds, we know what we want, it’s the idiots in charge that are confused and methinks that’s the same in every country.
Couldn’t agree more!! Signs still in miles and we travel on the left because of the sword/right issue....a right handed swordsman was considered “dexterous” and a leftie “sinister”.Oh you can be cruel, just to enlighten you I’ve never seen a sign the mentions KM, we still buy food in pounds of kilos, is oldies still use the imperial system. And as for making up our minds, we know what we want, it’s the idiots in charge that are confused and methinks that’s the same in every country.
When I drive a car, I remember that the driver (me) should be toward the center of the road. That thought keeps me on the correct side.
Don’t you just democracyYep, take Sweden for example. A non-binding referendum on the introduction of right hand traffic was held in Sweden on 16 October 1955. The voter turnout was 53.2%. 15 % voted in favour and 83 % voted against it. A clear Vote of The People. Despite this, the Swedish Parliament voted in favour of the change eight years later in 1963 and look at the mess the country and their traffic is in now. Or is it not?
Source: EN Wikipedia
Unfortunately not an infallible rule. While serving with the British Army in Germany I drove two cars on a more or less daily basis. An Army car for work - a German-registered left-hand drive Opel Corsa. And my own car which was a British-registered right-hand-drive Volvo. After moving from one to the other I more than once found myself reaching the wrong way for the gear lever and accidentally thumping the door in the process
These days, while following developments in countries starting with U quite closely, I am more than ever convinced that representative democracy and proportional representation are a good thing. I wouldn't want to have it any other way. Ok, promise, that's as far as I go as to comments on contemporary issues.Don’t you just [love] democracy
Alex, I went through 200,000 Indonesian Rupiah (currency values are worse than measurements) in beer one night explaining the entire English system to a Norwegian. He appreciates quaint old customs and found it very entertaining.
Fahrenheit, however is a perfect hiker's metric scale: Below zero is just too freaking cold. Above 100 is simply too hot. 50 is perfect walking weather.
This event was already mentioned in the first post of the thread where it was centimetres vs inches and now it’s kilometres vs miles. Neither of the two stories is the real story ...
It was a little bit more complicated. It's all over the internet, including NASA's initial report by the Mars Climate Orbiter Mishap Investigation Board, so easy to read up on. Yes, it was a problem of data that were used in English units (as they term it) instead of metric units in one particular software application. So also a story of garbage in, garbage out, of Lockheed and NASA, of quite complicated stuff. The units in questions were pound force seconds (lbs-s) vs Newton seconds (N-s), btw.If not correct then how do you account for the satellite slamming into Mars at a speed nearly twice what those loverly NASA people were expecting. Oh and yes they did do the correction for the follow-up mission.
Nice. But they forgot one of the common mistakes. The use of metre instead of meter.Did somebody mention use of capitals and plurals in metric units
A style guide for English (not intended for the American market) that I sometimes consult has this: Write metre for the unit of length, meter for measuring instruments.Nice. But they forgot one of the common mistakes. The use of metre instead of meter.
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