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Manny D

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Camino Frances (2009), Via Podiensis (2011), Via de la Plata/Sanabres (2014), Camino Frances (2019)
Hello Everyone,

Greetings of Peace! I did the Camino last year from June 25, 2009 (St. Jean-Pied-de-Port) to July 31, 2009 (Santiago de Compostela). To celebrate the Feast of St. James (this year being a Holy Year in Santiago de Compostela), I had a photo exhibit on the Camino here in Makati City/Manila, Philippines. Mrs. Maria Elena Aquino Cruz, the sister of our President and Mr. Luis Arias Romero, the Ambassador of Spain to the Philippines were the Guests of Honor at the Opening of the Exhibit last July 24, the Eve of the Feast of St. James (July 25).

Here are 2 articles about the Camino Photo Exhibit published in our national newspaper:

http://www.philstar.com/Article.aspx?articleId=600626
http://lifestyle.inquirer.net/artsandbo ... 726-283126

Through this Forum, I do hope to gather Filipinos/Asians who have done the Camino or plan to do it and form a group like "Friends of the Camino" in Asia.

Buen Camino,
Manny D
 
The one from Galicia (the round) and the one from Castilla & Leon. Individually numbered and made by the same people that make the ones you see on your walk.
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Hi Manny D..I am from Cebu City,Philippines..I plan to do the Camino de Santiago around the 15th May 2013..As it is, I am now in the process of doing my itinerary..I plan to start from St Jean Pied de Port...onwards till Santiago de Compostela...I would appreciate any information and/or resource websites/guide books regarding hotel listings in the towns along the way especially those that are possible to make a reservation in advance...single rooms with ensuite toilets..Thank you..Lotus F.
 
The one from Galicia (the round) and the one from Castilla & Leon. Individually numbered and made by the same people that make the ones you see on your walk.
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Hi Manny D...I walked the Camino Frances from Sep 11 to Oct 9, 2011. I am planning to walk again next year (2013) in Sep. I am attaching 2 pictures - my backpack with the Philippine flag and when I reached the highest point of the Camino (La Cruz de Hierro) which is between Foncebadon and Manjarin. I live in Alabang, Muntinlupa. Looking forward to hearing from you.....Mackie
 

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Lotus, I am from Rizal but currently working here in Singapore. I am also planning to do a pilgrimage in May 2013. I plan to start-out earlier though, possibly first week of May. I'm a slow walker so I am allotting about 3-40 days to complete the walk and as much as possible, I would like to be done before the heat of the summer kicks-in. :)

I hope to see you in the Camino!
 
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there's also peskywabbit (bunny) and her brother vincent, both from manila. not sure if they are still active here, as they completed their camino from sarria to santiago in 2006/07. we had dinner at podium pre- and post-camino (theirs).

and also yours truly, who had been lurking for half a decade. :D i'm thinking of doing part of the camino frances again in may 2013.

mabuhay!

mark
 
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Peskywabbit has not been around since March of 2008. Mark might be able to put you in contact with them.
 
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JohnnieWalker said:
Hola Mackie

The forum has several members from the Philipines - also check out Amado who lives in Davao City:

member8036.html

Hi JohnnieWalker,
I'll check him out. I'm familiar with the place (Davao City). Thanks for the tip.
Mackie
 
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Mackie said:
JohnnieWalker said:
Hola Mackie

The forum has several members from the Philipines - also check out Amado who lives in Davao City:

member8036.html

Hi JohnnieWalker,
I'll check him out. I'm familiar with the place (Davao City). Thanks for the tip.
Mackie

Mackie -

Fr. Amado is now based in Cainta, Rizal. He's on facebook, do look him up.

Lea_R -

Hi. I am based in Singapore as well. Planning to do it again 2013 (I hope)

Jan
 
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Dear Friends,

Thank you for all your posts. We have formed a Confraternity of Saint James here in the Philippines and we're inviting you to please join us (past, present and future pilgrims). Please check also the Facebook page of the Camino de Santiago Philippines or Confraternity of Saint James - Philippines.

If you find yourself in Cebu, please visit my Photo Exhibit on the Camino de Santiago at Casino Espanol de Cebu. It opened last March 13, 2013. I believe it will be there up to the end of the month.

Buen Camino,
Manny D
 
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lea_r said:
Lotus, I am from Rizal but currently working here in Singapore. I am also planning to do a pilgrimage in May 2013. I plan to start-out earlier though, possibly first week of May. I'm a slow walker so I am allotting about 3-40 days to complete the walk and as much as possible, I would like to be done before the heat of the summer kicks-in. :)

I hope to see you in the Camino!

Hi Rizal,
My friend Ian & I are from HK and we are starting on May 1st 2013, starting from SJPP. I'm a slow walker, and plan to take it easy, with rest days along the way. Plan to complete in about 40 days. Hope to see some other Asians along the way.

Eddie
 
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Eddie, I admire that you are also doing this for charity. I am also a supporter of Room to Read, having attended John Wood's book launch at a company event.

I hope to see you along the way (you are starting earlier than me so maybe not). In any case, good luck and Buen Camino!
 
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I am planning to do the Camino in September. But due to time constraints I can only do the last 100km. If I am coming from Barcelona, where would be the best place to start and how do I get there?
 
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Happy to help a fellow Pinoy pilgrim. To walk the last 100KM, most people start from Sarria. It is a few KM more than a 100. If you have two more days to spare (or 1 depending on how far you are planning to walk in a day), I've met people starting from O'Cebreiro. The hike going down is worth it.

Sorry I don't know the exact details to get there from Barcelona. You can fly to Santiago then take a bus to Sarria.
 
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cesarjeffrey said:
I am planning to do the Camino in September. But due to time constraints I can only do the last 100km. If I am coming from Barcelona, where would be the best place to start and how do I get there?
lea_r said:
Happy to help a fellow Pinoy pilgrim. To walk the last 100KM, most people start from Sarria. It is a few KM more than a 100. If you have two more days to spare (or 1 depending on how far you are planning to walk in a day), I've met people starting from O'Cebreiro. The hike going down is worth it.

Sorry I don't know the exact details to get there from Barcelona. You can fly to Santiago then take a bus to Sarria.

Here are some further details.

From Barcelona fly to Santiago de Compostela on Vueling >> http://www.vueling.com/EN/, Ryanair >> http://www.ryanair.com/en or Iberia >> http://www.iberia.com/?language=en, then bus from Santiago de Compostela to Monforte de Lemos connecting with a train to Sarria. Or from Santiago train to A Coruna connecting with another train to Sarria. For buses see >> http://www.alsa.es/en/ and for trains see >> http://www.renfe.com/EN/viajeros/

Buen Camino,

Margaret Meredith
 
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cesarjeffrey said:
I am planning to do the Camino in September. But due to time constraints I can only do the last 100km. If I am coming from Barcelona, where would be the best place to start and how do I get there?

You can take Renfe at Barcelona train station to A Coruna then Sarria.

I remember hearing Sarria over the PA on my way back to Barcelona
 
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Manny D said:
Dear Friends,

Thank you for all your posts. We have formed a Confraternity of Saint James here in the Philippines and we're inviting you to please join us (past, present and future pilgrims). Please check also the Facebook page of the Camino de Santiago Philippines or Confraternity of Saint James - Philippines.

If you find yourself in Cebu, please visit my Photo Exhibit on the Camino de Santiago at Casino Espanol de Cebu. It opened last March 13, 2013. I believe it will be there up to the end of the month.

Buen Camino,
Manny D

Hi Fr. Manny
Your photo exhibit in Cebu was impressive..I should see myself walking the Camino around the second week of september till 10 october2013.
Thank you for your feedback on this forum..it has greatly supported me to surpass my fears and anxieties of what has yet to be my personal journey along the Camino..
Lotusflower
 
Mabuhay All! So excited to find this thread. Another fellow pinay here! I'll be walking the Camino with my mom and sister. We are from California but my mom has dual citizenship and spends half the year between both places. My sister and I are just "Balikbayans".

Lotusflower where will you start your walk? We will begin our walk Aug 28 from Pamplona and have given ourselves 30 days to arrive in Santiago. We'd like spend a day in Finnestere then back to Madrid for 2 days before flying back to California.

Hope our paths cross as it would be nice to brush up on some Cebuano!

Do you have to be a Filipino citizen to join the Confraternity in the PI? It may give me a reason to go home more often.

Buen Camino!
 
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Hey TabyJ,

Pilipino rin ako :D
Kamsta na?
I grew up in Manila Philippines and moved to California 20+ years ago. I currently reside in Boston, Massachusetts. I have a daughter that also lives in Redondo Beach, CA. My friend and I started the Camino last year and we are doing sections of it one week each year. This September 1st we will be starting from Estella ending hopefully in Burgos on the 6th. Depending on the distance you plan to walk each day, we may bump into each other. Pamplona is a beautiful place and we enjoyed our time there last year. I'd recommend spending a couple of days. Make sure you try their pinchos (don't call them tapas or they'll correct you) and their wine from the Navarra Region, you'll enjoy it.

Last year We met pilgrims from many countries but not one Filipino, so I'm hoping we cross paths.
My friend and I will be hard to miss. Just look for the bearded Filipino guy walking with a tall Irish brunette. Hope to see you and your mom on the trail... :arrow:

Buen Camino!
 
Mabuhay All! So excited to find this thread. Another fellow pinay here! I'll be walking the Camino with my mom and sister. We are from California but my mom has dual citizenship and spends half the year between both places. My sister and I are just "Balikbayans".

Lotusflower where will you start your walk? We will begin our walk Aug 28 from Pamplona and have given ourselves 30 days to arrive in Santiago. We'd like spend a day in Finnestere then back to Madrid for 2 days before flying back to California.

Hope our paths cross as it would be nice to brush up on some Cebuano!

Do you have to be a Filipino citizen to join the Confraternity in the PI? It may give me a reason to go home more often.

Buen Camino!

Hi, Taby J!

The Confraternity of Saint James in the Philippines is open to all. We would be very happy to have you as member. Please like us at Facebook, Confraternity of St. James/Camino de Santiago Philippines. Have you arrived in Santiago de Compostela? Congratulations!

Blessings,
Manny D.
 
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Hi Manny D...I walked the Camino Frances from Sep 11 to Oct 9, 2011. I am planning to walk again next year (2013) in Sep. I am attaching 2 pictures - my backpack with the Philippine flag and when I reached the highest point of the Camino (La Cruz de Hierro) which is between Foncebadon and Manjarin. I live in Alabang, Muntinlupa. Looking forward to hearing from you.....Mackie

Hi, Mackie!

A good number of Filipinos are doing the Camino from Sarria to Santiago de Compostela these months of September and October, starting at different dates. Perhaps you'll meet some of them along the way. I have met Chicho and Rissa, Camino pilgrims from Ayala Alabang and am in contact with them. I reside in Don Bosco Makati. Please visit our Facebook page, Confraternity of Saint James/Camino de Santiago Philippines.

Blessings,
Manny D
 
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while working as a volunteer at the peregrino office issuing compostelas i have met quite a few filipino peregrinos from makati, quezon city, alabang and a few from the states during the last 10 days of september. i certainly see more filipino peregrinos and also tourists in group tours recently.

buen camino to all and god bless.
 
It is great to know that there are more Filipinos walking the camino for the past years. I have done the camino and would like to connect with fellow pilgrims. Ultreia!!
 
Hi, Taby J!

The Confraternity of Saint James in the Philippines is open to all. We would be very happy to have you as member. Please like us at Facebook, Confraternity of St. James/Camino de Santiago Philippines. Have you arrived in Santiago de Compostela? Congratulations!

Blessings,
Manny D.

hello greetings from santiago and london,

i will be visiting my family in pasig city villa verde compound this coming 18th of october. just wondering do you have a csf chapter in greater manila.

que tengan un buen camino para todos los peregrinos y dios os bendiga.
 
The one from Galicia (the round) and the one from Castilla & Leon. Individually numbered and made by the same people that make the ones you see on your walk.
Hi Piogaw,

Yes, we have our Confraternity of Saint James in the Philippines. We are currently based at Saint John Bosco Parish, A. Arnaiz Avenue, Makati City. You may contact me at mannydomingo@yahoo.com.

Blessings,
Manny D
 
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Hi Fr. Manny
Your photo exhibit in Cebu was impressive..I should see myself walking the Camino around the second week of september till 10 october2013.
Thank you for your feedback on this forum..it has greatly supported me to surpass my fears and anxieties of what has yet to be my personal journey along the Camino..
Lotusflower
 
Hi, Lotusflower!

Thank you for seeing my photo exhibit in Cebu! Congratulations! I believe you've reached Santiago de Compostela and have felt so blessed to be able to do the Camino. May the experience and memory of the Camino with all its blessings, inconveniences, aches and pains, prayers, encounters, food, friends and surprises always be a source of strength and joy for you.

Blessings,
Manny D.
 
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Hello. I plan to do the Camino on April 15, starting from Sarria. Is there a travel agency here or in Spain who can assist me?
 
Hello. I plan to do the Camino on April 15, starting from Sarria. Is there a travel agency here or in Spain who can assist me?
It's a train stop/destination. You can easily buy tickets on the fly from the station. Where are you de-planing?Buen Camino
 
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might be anti-climactic and more expensive, but that's just me thinking out loud. better to see the prize at the end as you will literally catch your breath when you first get a glimpse of the spires from Mount Joy.

from Madrid you can buy na the tickets, I forget if its A Coruna-Sarria or just straight Sarria. There's a Sarria stop I recall when I took the train back to Barcelona.
 
Hello, hello, this is peskywabbit, still alive and well and lurking every so often. Hi, Mark, if you are still around. Hello, Fr Manny D, how have you been? I was off boards for a long while, but now back to visiting the forum.

might be anti-climactic and more expensive, but that's just me thinking out loud. better to see the prize at the end as you will literally catch your breath when you first get a glimpse of the spires from Mount Joy.

from Madrid you can buy na the tickets, I forget if its A Coruna-Sarria or just straight Sarria. There's a Sarria stop I recall when I took the train back to Barcelona.

jcatienza, When I walked Sarria to Santiago in 2006, it was a flight to Lavacolla, then a bus to Lugo and a bus to Sarria. Actually the most efficient route from Madrid then. And you never saw the spires :)

I hope to de-plane at Madrid then take the train to Santiago.

januz, I am again going on the Camino in May, accompanying a tour group from Manila led by a friend of mine. If you de-plane in Madrid, just take the flight to Lavacolla and the bus connections to Lugo and Sarria. Doesn't take that long and the flight avoids the old city, so you don't see the cathedral at all. We will be in Sarria on May 3, so we will just miss you :) Buen Camino!
 
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Hi Piogaw,

Yes, we have our Confraternity of Saint James in the Philippines. We are currently based at Saint John Bosco Parish, A. Arnaiz Avenue, Makati City. You may contact me at mannydomingo@yahoo.com.

Blessings,
Manny D

Hi, Fr Manny,

What is the latest on the Confraternity in Manila?

Bunny
 
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there's also peskywabbit (bunny) and her brother vincent, both from manila. not sure if they are still active here, as they completed their camino from sarria to santiago in 2006/07. we had dinner at podium pre- and post-camino (theirs).

and also yours truly, who had been lurking for half a decade. :D i'm thinking of doing part of the camino frances again in may 2013.

mabuhay!

mark

Hey, Mark, I'm still here :)
 
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Peskywabbit has not been around since March of 2008. Mark might be able to put you in contact with them.

LOL, hello, falcon269… I am still around, but have been away from the boards for a long, long time. Now back on and catching up with everything….
 
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Wassup everybody!
It's interesting. I didn't realize there were many Filipino's that walk The Way.
I'm Will and I will be doing my first Camino in August of this year.
I'm leaving from Washington and flying to paris, then a short flight to bayonne and train to Sjpdp. Are there any other Filipino ' s walking Camino France this Summer?
 
I met one Filipino when I walked last summer, he was a teacher in Barcelona, and another Filipina who was married to a Spanish bar/cafe owner before Santiago. I'm planning on walking the Primitivo and the Ingles this summer.
 
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Ola, Manny D and Pinoys in this forum. Great to know that more and more Filipinos are discovering the Camino. I was inspired by 4 friends who walked from Sarria last year. Before their camino, I could not imagine the do-ability of a 25 km walk for at least 30 days even after I'd read Joyce Rupp's book on the Camino. Now my husband, a daughter, and I are preparing for our Schengen visa application and we hope to begin our camino in St. Jean, after a few days in Paris and in Lourdes.
 
There a quite a number of Pinoy peregrinos now, from Manila and elsewhere :)
 
Ola, Manny D and Pinoys in this forum. Great to know that more and more Filipinos are discovering the Camino. I was inspired by 4 friends who walked from Sarria last year. Before their camino, I could not imagine the do-ability of a 25 km walk for at least 30 days even after I'd read Joyce Rupp's book on the Camino. Now my husband, a daughter, and I are preparing for our Schengen visa application and we hope to begin our camino in St. Jean, after a few days in Paris and in Lourdes.

Dear lizaresandrea,

In my first Camino, I also spent some days in Paris and Lourdes. These days allowed me acclimatize myself to the weather and a good preparation (spiritual, physical, emotional, psychological) before crossing the Pyrenees. Please visit our Confraternity of St. James/Camino de Santiago Philippines Facebook page and you might like to post your planned Camino.

Buen Camino,
Manny D
 
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I posted my plans a while ago, Manny. I did receive a reply from Jan Atienza. Otherwise, no one seems to be using the Confraternity of St. James page. Before I go, I might have time to visit the Confraternity's office near/in Don Bosco in Makati. Will there be any benefit to doing so, like is your exhibit there, will you be there, will there be volunteers familiar with the camino there?
 
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Hello Everyone,

Greetings of Peace! I did the Camino last year from June 25, 2009 (St. Jean-Pied-de-Port) to July 31, 2009 (Santiago de Compostela). To celebrate the Feast of St. James (this year being a Holy Year in Santiago de Compostela), I had a photo exhibit on the Camino here in Makati City/Manila, Philippines. Mrs. Maria Elena Aquino Cruz, the sister of our President and Mr. Luis Arias Romero, the Ambassador of Spain to the Philippines were the Guests of Honor at the Opening of the Exhibit last July 24, the Eve of the Feast of St. James (July 25).

Here are 2 articles about the Camino Photo Exhibit published in our national newspaper:

http://www.philstar.com/Article.aspx?articleId=600626
http://lifestyle.inquirer.net/artsandbo ... 726-283126

Through this Forum, I do hope to gather Filipinos/Asians who have done the Camino or plan to do it and form a group like "Friends of the Camino" in Asia.

Buen Camino,
Manny D
Hi Manny D,
It's nice to see that some Filipinos are very active in walking the Camino. I am a resident of US but still holds a Philippine passport. My husband who is a US citizen and I are planning to walk the Camino in October 2015. I am in the process of applying for a visa Schengen visa, but one of the requirements is to have an invitation from Spain. Did you guys have this problem as well? Can someone help me how to go about this? I know that I have to fly to San Francisco (I live in Portland OR) to apply in person. Any info will be very much appreciated.

Zaida B
 
Hi Manny D,
It's nice to see that some Filipinos are very active in walking the Camino. I am a resident of US but still holds a Philippine passport. My husband who is a US citizen and I are planning to walk the Camino in October 2015. I am in the process of applying for a visa Schengen visa, but one of the requirements is to have an invitation from Spain. Did you guys have this problem as well? Can someone help me how to go about this? I know that I have to fly to San Francisco (I live in Portland OR) to apply in person. Any info will be very much appreciated.

Zaida B
 
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Hello, kapwa peregrino!

I just recently completed the CF (SJPDP - SdC) last June 20. It took me 32 days with a rest day in Leon. I met my first Filipino on the second day of my camino (we stayed in the same albergue). She was the only other Pinoy I encountered until I reached Sarria where I met a group of Filipino pilgrims on the camino. I had a conversation with them in one of the bars and they were a bit surprised that I was walking alone from St Jean. I had to remind them that you are never alone in the camino - physically and/or spiritually and that their camino is as good as mine albeit shorter. I carried my backpack and theirs were transported to the next town.

In Santiago, I again met three Filipinos who would begin their camino two (2) days later. They would take the bus to Sarria and begin there.

It was great to meet fellow Filipino pilgrims during my camino and I wish that more Filipinos will do so in the future. I have inspired several of my friends (Filipinos and others) to consider doing the Camino.

I will visit the Don Bosco Pilgrim's Office when I am in Makati next time. Do I have to call first?

Regards and buen camino!


Carlos H
Arlington, VA and Bohol
 
Hi.. I would like to ask how much money do i need to walk the camino de santiago from st. jean pied de port.. Plane ticket, food, gears, etc.
Im from angeles city pampanga.

Best Regards
Jude
 
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Hello, kapwa peregrino!

I just recently completed the CF (SJPDP - SdC) last June 20. It took me 32 days with a rest day in Leon. I met my first Filipino on the second day of my camino (we stayed in the same albergue). She was the only other Pinoy I encountered until I reached Sarria where I met a group of Filipino pilgrims on the camino. I had a conversation with them in one of the bars and they were a bit surprised that I was walking alone from St Jean. I had to remind them that you are never alone in the camino - physically and/or spiritually and that their camino is as good as mine albeit shorter. I carried my backpack and theirs were transported to the next town.

In Santiago, I again met three Filipinos who would begin their camino two (2) days later. They would take the bus to Sarria and begin there.

It was great to meet fellow Filipino pilgrims during my camino and I wish that more Filipinos will do so in the future. I have inspired several of my friends (Filipinos and others) to consider doing the Camino.

I will visit the Don Bosco Pilgrim's Office when I am in Makati next time. Do I have to call first?

Regards and buen camino!


Carlos H
Arlington, VA and Bohol

Dear Carlos,

Congratulations!

You're fortunate to meet Filipinos during your Camino. There is now a great interest in the Camino de Santiago among Filipinos.

You are most welcome to visit us when you are in Makati. Please e-mail me first at mannydomingo@yahoo.com or text me at 09195010374. Or if you find yourself in the Makati area either on the 1st or 3rd Sunday of the month, I usually celebrate the Holy Mass at 9am at the Legaspi Market. A number of Filipino pilgrims attend the Mass before they leave for the Camino with Pilgrim's Blessing just before the end of Mass. Some of those attending that Mass were also Camino pilgrims. We usually have breakfast after Mass.

Blessings,
Manny D.
 
Dear Fellow Pilgrims and Fellow Filipinos,

The Confraternity of St. James in the Philippines is now a member of the Camino Associations and Confraternity of St. James worldwide (http://camino.xacobeo.es/asociaciones-jacobeas?page=2&region=3). During the First Global Conference in Galicia of the Friends of the Camino Associations held in Santiago de Compostela, last June 4-6, 2015, the Philippines was represented for the very first time in a global meeting on the Camino de Santiago.

Mabuhay Pilipinas! Viva Filipinas!

Buen Camino,
Manny D.
 
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Hi.. I would like to ask how much money do i need to walk the camino de santiago from st. jean pied de port.. Plane ticket, food, gears, etc.
Im from angeles city pampanga.

Best Regards
Jude

Here’s a real rough budget for CF (St Jean Pied de Port (SJPdP) start) for prospective pilgrim outside Europe with Madrid as gateway city.

I. Roundtrip airfare (Madrid)

II. Bus/train to Pamplona from Madrid
(Train to Pamplona: http://www.renfe.com/EN/viajeros/index.html)
(Bus to Pamplona: https://www.busbud.com/en/bus-company/alsa)

III. Bus from Pamplona to St Jean Pied de Port: http://www.conda.es/eventos.php?tipo=3&id=438

IV. Daily expenses (Euro): (Figure out your itinerary/route from SJPdP to Santiago de Compostela – number of days)
Albergue (Donativo (what you can afford 0 to ?); Municipal – 8 – 12; Private – 8 - ?)
Meals (Peregrino Menu – ( 10 -12)
Prepare your own (food from supermercado/tienda: 5 - ?)
Miscellaneous (5 - ?)

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Regards and buen camino!

Carlos H
 
Dear Carlos,

Congratulations!

You're fortunate to meet Filipinos during your Camino. There is now a great interest in the Camino de Santiago among Filipinos.

You are most welcome to visit us when you are in Makati. Please e-mail me first at mannydomingo@yahoo.com or text me at 09195010374. Or if you find yourself in the Makati area either on the 1st or 3rd Sunday of the month, I usually celebrate the Holy Mass at 9am at the Legaspi Market. A number of Filipino pilgrims attend the Mass before they leave for the Camino with Pilgrim's Blessing just before the end of Mass. Some of those attending that Mass were also Camino pilgrims. We usually have breakfast after Mass.

Blessings,
Manny D.

Maraming salamat, Father! Will definitely visit when I am in the area.

Regards!

Carlos H
 
Dear Fellow Pilgrims,

In celebration of the Feast of the Apostle St. James the Great, The Confraternity of Saint James (Camino de Santiago - Philippines) will have a Movie Premiere of "WALKING THE CAMINO: Six ways to Santiago on July 28, 2015 at MyCinema, Greenbelt 3, Ayala Center, Makati City. The Confraternity has obtained the Public Viewing Rights from Miss Lydia Smith, the film's director and producer. This premiere is by invitation only. The Confraternity plans to have other screening dates for the film.

Buen Camino,
Manny D
 
The one from Galicia (the round) and the one from Castilla & Leon. Individually numbered and made by the same people that make the ones you see on your walk.
Hi, Fr. Manny,

Where is the office of CSJ-Philippines? I recall some time ago you said you would let me know once the confraternity was formed but I never heard back from you. Anyway, I would like to drop by and see it :)

Do you plan to walk again soon?
 
Hello, kapwa peregrino!

I just recently completed the CF (SJPDP - SdC) last June 20. It took me 32 days with a rest day in Leon. I met my first Filipino on the second day of my camino (we stayed in the same albergue). She was the only other Pinoy I encountered until I reached Sarria where I met a group of Filipino pilgrims on the camino. I had a conversation with them in one of the bars and they were a bit surprised that I was walking alone from St Jean. I had to remind them that you are never alone in the camino - physically and/or spiritually and that their camino is as good as mine albeit shorter. I carried my backpack and theirs were transported to the next town.

In Santiago, I again met three Filipinos who would begin their camino two (2) days later. They would take the bus to Sarria and begin there.

It was great to meet fellow Filipino pilgrims during my camino and I wish that more Filipinos will do so in the future. I have inspired several of my friends (Filipinos and others) to consider doing the Camino.

I will visit the Don Bosco Pilgrim's Office when I am in Makati next time. Do I have to call first?

Regards and buen camino!


Carlos H
Arlington, VA and Bohol

Hi Carlos H! I finished my camino (via Camino Frances) last June 23. Sad that we did not bump into each other. It was unfortunate for me not to meet a single Filipino along the way. I am surprised that a bunch of you guys are just ahead of me a few days since all (with an exception of 1) peregrinos I met said that I am the only Filipino they encountered along the way. The hospitaleras in Granon also mentioned that it has been 2 months since they last hosted a Filipino.
 
Dear Carlos,

Congratulations!

You're fortunate to meet Filipinos during your Camino. There is now a great interest in the Camino de Santiago among Filipinos.

You are most welcome to visit us when you are in Makati. Please e-mail me first at mannydomingo@yahoo.com or text me at 09195010374. Or if you find yourself in the Makati area either on the 1st or 3rd Sunday of the month, I usually celebrate the Holy Mass at 9am at the Legaspi Market. A number of Filipino pilgrims attend the Mass before they leave for the Camino with Pilgrim's Blessing just before the end of Mass. Some of those attending that Mass were also Camino pilgrims. We usually have breakfast after Mass.

Blessings,
Manny D.

Hi Fr. Manny! Is the camino mass in Legaspi Market still on going up to now? It happens that I currently live nearby and would love to meet and trade stories with my kapwa peregrinos.
 
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Hi Carlos H! I finished my camino (via Camino Frances) last June 23. Sad that we did not bump into each other. It was unfortunate for me not to meet a single Filipino along the way. I am surprised that a bunch of you guys are just ahead of me a few days since all (with an exception of 1) peregrinos I met said that I am the only Filipino they encountered along the way. The hospitaleras in Granon also mentioned that it has been 2 months since they last hosted a Filipino.

Hello, Joseph!

I did not stay in Grañon. I was at Santo Domingo de la Calzada. I missed out on the albergue experience over there based on my conversation with other pilgrims. In one of the albergues, an Italian co-pilgrim wanted to see my RP passport as he has never seen one.

As my Castellano is decent, I sometimes acted as interpreter to the non speakers. I really hope that more Filipinos do the Camino and I, for one, encourage my friends to do, at least, part of the Camino.

I, too, am interested if the Fr Manny still offers the Camino mass.

¡Buen camino!

Carlos H
 
Hi, Bunny, Carlos and Joseph,

Although I am assigned at the National Shrine of Mary Help of Christians in Better Living, Bicutan, Paranaque, I still celebrate Mass at the Legaspi Market every First and Third Sundays of the month. If I am informed beforehand, I offer the Mass for those doing the Camino and pray the Pilgrim's Blessings before the end of the Mass. Breakfast and a sharing of experiences follow after Mass. You are most welcome to e-mail me at mannydomingo@yahoo.com or text or call me at 09195010374. The Confraternity of St. James maintains its postal address at St. John Bosco Parish, A. Arnaiz Avenue, Makati City. Since the Camino materials are my own collection, they go wherever I am assigned. Anybody can visit me since my office in Paranaque has actually become a Camino office with posters, maps, brochures and a few books on the Camino.

Buen Camino,
Manny D.
 
Hi, Bunny, Carlos and Joseph,

Although I am assigned at the National Shrine of Mary Help of Christians in Better Living, Bicutan, Paranaque, I still celebrate Mass at the Legaspi Market every First and Third Sundays of the month. If I am informed beforehand, I offer the Mass for those doing the Camino and pray the Pilgrim's Blessings before the end of the Mass. Breakfast and a sharing of experiences follow after Mass. You are most welcome to e-mail me at mannydomingo@yahoo.com or text or call me at 09195010374. The Confraternity of St. James maintains its postal address at St. John Bosco Parish, A. Arnaiz Avenue, Makati City. Since the Camino materials are my own collection, they go wherever I am assigned. Anybody can visit me since my office in Paranaque has actually become a Camino office with posters, maps, brochures and a few books on the Camino.

Buen Camino,
Manny D.

Hello, Fr Manny,

I am staying just across the Legaspi market site (Senta Condo). I will attend the service on the 17th of January and introduce myself.

Regards!

Carlos H
 
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Hi, Carlos,

See you then on the 17th of January!

God bless!
Manny D.
 
Any pinoy/pinay doing the Camino around April 7/8, 2016?
BTW, don't mind my name here, I'm actually very nice. It was my nickname the military and my trail name as well.
 
Hello, is this thread still active?

Hi, Fr. Manny, are you still celebrating mass in Makati?
 
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Hi, Alegria!

By June 2016, another priest from St. John Bosco Parish will take my place and celebrate Mass. But if there are some past, present and future pilgrims who would like to gather, I can still meet them after Mass (on either 1st or 3rd Sundays).

Buen Camino,
Manny D
 
hello

Me and my friend will start the 5 days (100 km) sarria-santiago 11 Sept 2016 hope to meet some filipinos on the way
 
hello

Me and my friend will start the 5 days (100 km) sarria-santiago 11 Sept 2016 hope to meet some filipinos on the way
¡Buen camino, Meliza! Although there were only a few Filipinos (compared to other nationalities), I was fortunate to meet a Filipina in Zubiri and a group (see attached) near Sarria. Fr Manny recognized a pilgrim from his parish. This was May-June 2015.
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Carlos H
 
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Peregrino Pinoy , Pinay, Filipino, from the Philippines ...

I am helping manage the Camino de Santiago Philippines Confraternity of Saint James (Face Book page). If you can share pictures or details of your Camino please PM (private message) us on the page. If you can also help comment and reply to inquiries and post you are most welcome. Please like share the page...

Mabuhay & Buen Camino!!!
 
Hello! I am planning to walk the Camino in September next year but due to leaving work for more than a month I have to make my preparations this early. Also, it will help me with my Visa application. Do we have a page or group for Filipinos who walked and/or planning to walk the Camino? I have a lot of questions though I am already a member of different Camino groups on Facebook, I think it will be easier to get info from Filipinos as well for tips and recommendations.

Thank you and Mabuhay!
 
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Good day kababayans!
I have a question regarding Schengen visa application in the Philippines. Based on the embassy's website detailed itinerary and accommodation bookings are requirements for application.
Question:
How does one go about showing proof of accommodation since as pilgrims of the camino one stays in auberges and does not have confirmed bookings for stay in Spain?
 
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Dear Friends,

I am now in Santiago de Compostela. From being a pilgrim being welcomed, I am now assigned to welcoming pilgrims especially Filipino and English speaking pilgrims at the Cathedral of Santiago de Compostela. I will always consider myself a pilgrim priest. Once a peregrino, always a peregrino.

I hear confessions (Confessional #4) during the 12 noon Pilgrims' Mass (12:00 noon - 1:30 pm) and in the afternoon (Confessional #14) from 6:30 pm - 7:30 pm. I also celebrate the Mass in English at the Chapel of Nuestra Senora de la Soledad (beside the Corticela) at 10 am on Mondays, Tuesdays, Thursdays and Fridays and at 9am on Saturdays. Fr. Juan Carlos celebrates the English Mass on Wednesdays.

You may contact me at mannydomingo@yahoo.com or 09195010374.

Buen Camino,
Fr. Manny C. Domingo, Jr., SDB
 
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Hello everyone, I am from Vietnam. I am also planning for Camino de Santiago next year. And I am looking for a group of Vietnamese people. Is any group of Vietnamese people available here..
 
Hello.
My wife and i are in our late 40s and we plan to walk Sarria or Lugo to Santiago in June 2019. How long would the walk take? We originally saw the 6 day tours. But they were tours. We decided to walk the camino ourselves. If we had an average pace of about 4 km per hour, could we finish the last 100 km in 5 days?

Btw, we are from Paranaque (as if that info is of any use haha)
Toby
 
Hello.
My wife and i are in our late 40s and we plan to walk Sarria or Lugo to Santiago in June 2019. How long would the walk take? We originally saw the 6 day tours. But they were tours. We decided to walk the camino ourselves. If we had an average pace of about 4 km per hour, could we finish the last 100 km in 5 days?

Btw, we are from Paranaque (as if that info is of any use haha)
Toby
Kamusta....
In five days you would only be walking approximately 20 kilometres a day and assuming you are both healthy and fit, it would be very doable.
Assuming you leave the albergue at approximately 7:00 am, you would probably want to reach your destination for the day by 2:00 pm. That is seven hours to walk 20 kilometres. That would be less than a 3 kilometre per hour day. In reality you will probably be reaching your destination by 12:00-1:00 pm, which can be a good thing sometimes. Or you may choose to walk longer distances and cover the distance in four days instead and spend an extra day in Santiago. Either way, 20-25 kilometres a day is what most pilgrims walk.
 
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Thank you RJM.
My plan is to fly to Barcelona then take a train to Madrid and stay there a few days. Then take a Eurail from Madrid to Santiago then hop on a bus or cab to Sarria and sleep there for the night. Next day we begin our camino. Is that a good plan?

I originally wanted to take a train or bus straight to Sarria but the wife suggested we get a Eurail pass
 
Thank you RJM.
My plan is to fly to Barcelona then take a train to Madrid and stay there a few days. Then take a Eurail from Madrid to Santiago then hop on a bus or cab to Sarria and sleep there for the night. Next day we begin our camino. Is that a good plan?

I originally wanted to take a train or bus straight to Sarria but the wife suggested we get a Eurail pass
Eurail passes may be a thing of the past. Single tickets on train are inexpensive, relatively, and there are special offers all the time.

There are trains to Sarria, so you may be able to get there without going to Santiago first. There are buses from Santiago to Lugo, connecting to Sarria, a half-dozen times per day; you just have to get from the train station to the bus station, and there are city buses every few minutes.
 
Thank you RJM.
My plan is to fly to Barcelona then take a train to Madrid and stay there a few days. Then take a Eurail from Madrid to Santiago then hop on a bus or cab to Sarria and sleep there for the night. Next day we begin our camino. Is that a good plan?

I originally wanted to take a train or bus straight to Sarria but the wife suggested we get a Eurail pass
As said in falcon's comment, simply buying single tickets from Madrid to Sarria without going to Santiago first would be a better idea.
 
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Hello.
My wife and i are in our late 40s and we plan to walk Sarria or Lugo to Santiago in June 2019. How long would the walk take? We originally saw the 6 day tours. But they were tours. We decided to walk the camino ourselves. If we had an average pace of about 4 km per hour, could we finish the last 100 km in 5 days?

Btw, we are from Paranaque (as if that info is of any use haha)
Toby
The common stages between Sarria to Santiago is:
- Sarria to Portomarín ~ 21km
- Portomarín to Palas de Rei ~ 25km
- Palas de Rei to Arzúa ~ 30km
- Arzúa to O Pedrouzo ~ 20km
- O Pedrouzo to Santiago ~ 20km

Or you can choose to split the 3rd day to 2 if 30km is too much for 1 day.

Very doable at 3-4 km per hour and if there's only 2 of you walking you can probably pace yourself better and have shorter food/toilet stops in between. If you book accommodation in advance, the good thing is that you don't have to hurry to get to the next stop. And June is heading into peak season so it might be a good idea to pre-book. The advantage with not booking is you can stop whenever you feel like stopping for the day. Provided there are rooms or beds available.
 
Hi Toby, my husband and I walked the Camino Frances , SARRIA TO SANTIAGO in MARCH of this year 2018 for the Holy Week. We are both in our late 40s and we did the planning ourselves too. From booking our international flights, to booking the train ride on RENFE, to booking the hostels/ Albergues, to flight back to MADRID thru RYYAN AIR and the flight back home. We did gave ourselves enough time, so we can really enjoy the journey. We walked in the trail for 6 days, started on Palm Sunday and arriving in Santiago on Good Friday. We did have extra days for rest and sight seeing before and after the Camino. Our journey began by flying to MADRID BARAJAS AIRPORT, then catching the local train on Terminal 1, the local train is called CERCANIA. taking the local train is free if you can show a ticket at the ticketing office on the train station that you have a connecting ticket to CHAMARTIN TRAIN STATION going to SARRIA. Before all these, we. watched a lot of you tube videos and bought the book by JOHN BRIERLEY. We used it immensely as guide and the you tube video of a fellow pilgrim. EFREN, CAMINO SANTIAGO. If you wanted to watch Efrens video in you tube, just type in on the search engine the name above. We also practiced walking with our backpack, with the actual weight of 15lbs and the actual shoes we were going to use in the trail, one day every weekend at the most for 5 months, walking about 5 hours covering 12 KM at least. This is good muscle training and conditioning so your feet and your body will start having muscle memory of the long stretch of kilometers you will be walking per day. We were fortunate not to have any blister at all when we did our Camino, though the weather in Spain during the Holy Week was brutal. We got snowed, rain, sunshine and hailstorm along the trail all in one day. And the whole week was raining. It was reported that it was a very unusual weather in Spain especially in the Trail this year. It was very good that we came prepared. we made sure our gears are totally waterproof, the shoes, the pants, the rain jackets, and we bought water proof cover for our backpack as well. Anyways, There are a lot of things to plan and bits and pieces of details in our journey. Ill try to remember and log in again on this forum sometime. Happy planning. Right now, you are on your journey, Buen Camino!
 
Hello.
My wife and i are in our late 40s and we plan to walk Sarria or Lugo to Santiago in June 2019. How long would the walk take? We originally saw the 6 day tours. But they were tours. We decided to walk the camino ourselves. If we had an average pace of about 4 km per hour, could we finish the last 100 km in 5 days?

Btw, we are from Paranaque (as if that info is of any use haha)
Toby

Hi Toby,
Me, my sister and brother did the Camino Frances from SJPP to Santiago in 2015, Once you get to SDC, one of the recommended place to stay is San Martin Pinario. They have rooms for pilgrims at a discounted price. Here is their contact info, "eservas H.S.Martin Pinario <reservas@sanmartinpinario.eu>", the place is very close to the cathedral and breakfast is included. Make sure you tell them that you are a pilgrim so you can get the pilgrim rate. In 2015, I think we paid 28E per night.

Buen Camino,
Butch
 
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Hello Toby, I tried to look for my folder that contain details of our past Camino but couldn't find it at the moment, so ill just try to remember it as best I could. Anyways, id mentioned before we flew to MADRID and arrived around 8-9am and then took the local train located at the airport Terminal 4, they are called Cercania over there. We then got off at CHAMARTIN train station to catch our train straight to SARRIA that is leaving at 1pm. Its a 5 hr train ride to SARRIA, no changing of trains or connections. I booked the train ride thru RENFE, exactly two 2 months before our exact date of travel. Thats when it opens anyway on their website and you get the cheapest fare as possible. of course, You can buy from other websites/vendor, its just going to be more. Since I have copies of our ticket for the train ride to SARRIA, we just have to show it to the train office and they gave us free ticket for the local ride. Booking on RENFE for your ticket to SARRIA, you can choose the cheapest one, first class, the ride is very comfortable and its a FAST TRAIN. When we arrived in Sarria around 7pm. we stayed in 2 hostels, for the first night, we walked out of the train station in a pouring rain with other pilgrims, turned right and started walking to find LA CASONA DE SARRIA, our very first hostel. its near the train station, about 8-10 minutes walk. We didn't know the place so we wanted to get to hostel right away to rest. The second day, we stayed at HOTEL ALFONSO X. We did site seeing that day, visited the church Iglesia Santa Marina de Sarria and got our first stamp on our pilgrims book. There are nice restaurants around church, we ate dinner at Meson O Tapas. First day on the trail, its uphill climb. We booked our lodging ahead of time, being that its Holy Week, more people were on the trail and we didn't want to take chances, but looking back, I would say if you are traveling in June, you actually don't have to book ahead. You just walk and when you are feeling like you are nearly done for the day, you rest and look for the ALBERGUE. We stayed in hostels and hotels by the way. But again looking back, staying in ALBERGUES would have been more enriching and meaningful, you meet more pilgrims that way and interact with them, not only on the trail. Now, SARRIA TO PORTOMARIN is the usual route on the first day, but some people may find it too much. Theres a place you can stop, either in CASA MORGADE OR IN MERCADOIRO. WE stayed in MERCADOIRO, thats exactly the name of the hostel and the next day walked 5K TO PORTOMARIN. We just past by Portomarin because it was still too early and stayed in a small rural area called CASTROMAIOR, From there, on to PALAIS DEL REI, there are lots of albergue in Palais del Res but we walked further and stayed in CASA DE LOS SOMOZA in MELIDE. Then from MELIDE we walked to ARZUA, the next day to O PEDROUZO then arrived in SANTIAGO DE COMPOSTELA on Good Friday. We stayed in HOSPEDERIA DE San Martin PINARIO, used to be a monastery, great place to stay. Its in front of the COMPOSTELA CATHEDRAL, perfect location for your stay. We stayed there for 3 glorious days just soaking in the place, the activities all round it and since it was Holy Week,the multiple processions . It was quite a unique remarkable experience for us. We were lucky to experience the BOTAFUMEIRO swing in the Cathedral on Easter Sunday mass as well. Other things, we only brought our backpack, 15lbs weight. no check in. if in case you find it hard or for some reasons your backpack is weighing you down so much, theres a service called PAQ MONCHILA, they offer service to carry your rucksack from one place to the next. This is quite long, but I hope it helps you with your planning. BUEN CAMINO.
 
hi all pilgrims,

been reading the posts here, and very informative, i'm new here and need your advise..
i only have 2 weeks to do my Camino walk.. would it be possible to start in Ponferrada to SDC and finish it in 10 day?
lot of thanks in advance..
 
hi all pilgrims,

been reading the posts here, and very informative, i'm new here and need your advise..
i only have 2 weeks to do my Camino walk.. would it be possible to start in Ponferrada to SDC and finish it in 10 day?
lot of thanks in advance..

Hello!
I am also a newbie here and planning to do my first Camino either 2020 /2021.
As i was researching, i came across this website. It helps a lot in planning your route (how many kms you need to walk per stop/village), especially in finding an accomodation per village.


i hope you could find the link. The main page is in spanish but somehow other parts are in English.
Buen Camino po! :)
 
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Hello!
I am also a newbie here and planning to do my first Camino either 2020 /2021.
As i was researching, i came across this website. It helps a lot in planning your route (how many kms you need to walk per stop/village), especially in finding an accomodation per village.


i hope you could find the link. The main page is in spanish but somehow other parts are in English.
Buen Camino po! :)



yeah great...found it!!
thank you so much po..this would be a great help..
 
Hello,

Theres a few of us who are Filipino-Americans who does caminos regularly. We’ve done 3 caminos - frances, portuges and fatima and God-willing Del Norte next year. We met an ex-PBA player and his Spanish-Filipino wife whose family is from Asturias i believe last 2017 in La Meseta. Ultreya!
 
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Re: Camino Pilgrim from the Philipines

Dear Friends,

Thank you for all your posts. We have formed a Confraternity of Saint James here in the Philippines and we're inviting you to please join us (past, present and future pilgrims). Please check also the Facebook page of the Camino de Santiago Philippines or Confraternity of Saint James - Philippines.

If you find yourself in Cebu, please visit my Photo Exhibit on the Camino de Santiago at Casino Espanol de Cebu. It opened last March 13, 2013. I believe it will be there up to the end of the month.

Buen Camino,
Manny D
Hi Manny.

Do we need to get a visa to do the camino? Thank you.

Stephanie
 
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Hi Fr. Manny, this Eric(Pinoy Peregrinos). I am still at a lost in all my search if Portugal is open for Non Essential Travel for us Filipinos. My Flight is already on the 30th and my travel agent is still in doubt. Would you be able to help us?
 
Hi Fr. Manny, this Eric(Pinoy Peregrinos). I am still at a lost in all my search if Portugal is open for Non Essential Travel for us Filipinos. My Flight is already on the 30th and my travel agent is still in doubt. Would you be able to help us?
I think they are open already. Most of Europe is open na din naman.
Are you doing the Camino Portuguese?
 
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