ChrisMayou
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- del Norte planned for Sept 1, 2024
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I appreciate specific tips. Thanks.Just walk slowly past them without making much noise and avoid sudden movements or big gestures. Same advice for cattle anywhere.
Anecdotal evidence works too!I say ‘moo camino’ and ‘I don’t eat you’ but the success of these phrases may not be scientifically proven.
And upon arriving at the end of the day you go to a restaurant and order a big lumb of beef ? Pois não?I say ‘moo camino’ and ‘I don’t eat you’ but the success of these phrases may not be scientifically proven.
I say ‘moo camino’ and ‘I don’t eat you’ but the success of these phrases may not be scientifically proven.
Spanish regulary have a big red rag in their backpack as standard equipment .Are there Spanish* phrases used when walking near cows? In America, you might hear "hey Bessie," or at least I think that's a thing! What soothing, friendly things might this practically city-slicker say while trying not to convey nervousness to the much larger animals? *And, on the Norte, I suppose there are languages besides Spanish that the local farmers might use.
I never met a bull, cow or goat on my entire 5 caminhos others than behind a fence.
On the Primitivo, the Inglès and the Norte last year I met cows. Once completely unattended on a quiet, narrow country lane, the other two occasions being herded towards me.never met a bull, cow or goat on my entire 5 caminhos others than behind a fence.
I only saw toro's in the arena of Sevilla once but they already were dead .Try the VdlP.
here in the Netherlands where I live are millions of black and white cows .On the Primitivo, the Inglès and the Norte last year I met cows. Once completely unattended on a quiet country lane, the other two occasions being herded towards me.
As a New Zealander I'm not exactly a stranger to cows - I spent 10 years working with farmers - but ours don't have those fabulous horns that the Spanish cows do.
Two of the occasions I just stood to one side of the road and they calmly passed by. The third occasion (P) however was somewhat more difficult, calm words and a little judicious pole work involved.
I don't say anything, pass calmly and beware not to walk between a caĺf and mother. Where cows walk in the open country along the camino they will be used to passing people
Holstein-Friesian, they’re a common milk cow internationally and they originated in your neck of the woods. As you say, a very calm, even good natured beast.I only saw toro's in the arena of Sevilla once but they already were dead .
here in the Netherlands where I live are millions of black and white cows .
Owned by farmers who know them all by name .
We once walked the Pieter pad, a long distance path from the north to the south of the country, about 500 kms and in the northern province of Groningen,sometimes we had to climb over fences to continue the waymarked path and were surrounded by our black and white milk supplyers but they are as tame as a new born lamb.
Beware for longhorns !
Wow !
Well, I have one exception. Long, long time ago I met a New Zealand woman who told me she was given the same name as her father's favorite cow.Unfortunately many of our herds are huge (800 - 1000 is not uncommon), the average herd size is over 400. They’re not named, just numbered.
Yes, I remember wading through cattle several times on that route in particular..Try the VdlP.
Sounds like good advice. Thanks.I read once ( and did once) that, if you can, approach the cows slowly from their midsections, not directly towards or directly behind ( don't come up on any animal from its rear...).
Worked well enough, but I wasn't traveling in calving season...
Is it best to don a cape before waving the red rag? I plan to practice at home, and I want to get it right.Spanish regulary have a big red rag in their backpack as standard equipment .
And once approached by a “toro “ they wave the red rag and call out loud “ olé “
Reassuring, thanks.I don't say anything, pass calmly and beware not to walk between a caĺf and mother. Where cows walk in the open country along the camino they will be used to passing people
He left out sheep and pigs. You see one or two of those on the VDLP alsoTry the VdlP.
1990s. British Army exercise in a forest in Poland. A family of wild boar came wandering through the medical unit camp in the middle of the night causing uproar amongst the sentries. Who fortunately only had blank ammunition. In the morning a few of the soldiers were sharpening long sticks for use as spears. I asked them how much they knew about wild boar anatomy and if they were 100% certain of killing one with a single blow. And if not what their plan was for having several hundred pounds of very angry injured pork with huge teeth on the other end of a six-foot stick...Had my pocket knife out and a walking pole (OH yea big help they would have been)
Exactly!Just walk slowly past them without making much noise and avoid sudden movements or big gestures. Same advice for cattle anywhere.
Edit- I grew up on a farm - with cattle!
Just keep a respectful distance if possible and don't pet them. One of my favorite memories from my Camino Frances last year was walking in the middle of a herd of large gentle cattle on the road out of Sarria. There were about 20 pilgrim walking in the road with the cattle. With exception of a couple of ignorant people who wanted to pet and take selfies with the cattle, it was an awesome experience.Are there Spanish* phrases used when walking near cows? In America, you might hear "hey Bessie," or at least I think that's a thing! What soothing, friendly things might this practically city-slicker say while trying not to convey nervousness to the much larger animals? *And, on the Norte, I suppose there are languages besides Spanish that the local farmers might use.
I have met them numerous times. Sometimes accompanied by a nowhere. Sometimes not.Spanish regulary have a big red rag in their backpack as standard equipment .
And once approached by a “toro “ they wave the red rag and call out loud “ olé “
If you walk the Portuguese , call out “ obá “ and then run for your life .
I never met a bull, cow or goat on my entire 5 caminhos others than behind a fence.
At the Portuguese , beware of lovely small barking doggies. They attack you from behind by biting your calves.
And once ( compare it to the Caminho do Norte) we played golf on Iceland
In Iceland are no trees so birds breed on the ground in nests
Trying to hit the hole in one,we were attacked by Northern Stern birds and aggressive seagulls , protecting their eggs and chickens.
That can happen too at the northern Coasts of Spain in the breeding season.
Buen camino
If you move through them without quick moves that could be mistaken for aggression they will generally accept you as part of the herd. And, watch where you step.Are there Spanish* phrases used when walking near cows? In America, you might hear "hey Bessie," or at least I think that's a thing! What soothing, friendly things might this practically city-slicker say while trying not to convey nervousness to the much larger animals? *And, on the Norte, I suppose there are languages besides Spanish that the local farmers might use.
Thank you.Yes, I remember wading through cattle several times on that route in particular..
As with all animals, a soothing voice in whatever language. Pass gently without sudden movements, dont flail about the place and never pass between a mother and calf.
Herd mentality pays off at last!If you move through them without quick moves that could be mistaken for aggression they will generally accept you as part of the herd. And, watch where you step.
What Camino did you walk when you werw alone wirh only animals to talk to?I find talking to all the Animals I met in 'soft' child like English worked well
It's more about the tone I think.
On my last Camino, the animals along the way were often the only living things to talk to
Oh and trees of course. Trees are great 'listeners'!
I never had a problem with that. On the Via Podiensis in France you have to pass through the fenced areas where the cows were grazing together with their calves and big daddy Bull. But really BIG!Are there Spanish* phrases used when walking near cows? In America, you might hear "hey Bessie," or at least I think that's a thing! What soothing, friendly things might this practically city-slicker say while trying not to convey nervousness to the much larger animals? *And, on the Norte, I suppose there are languages besides Spanish that the local farmers might use.
Não. I don’t eat meat.And upon arriving at the end of the day you go to a restaurant and order a big lumb of beef ? Pois não?
We have walked many Camino routes, including the Norte, and only occasionally seen cows on the trail (luckily none have been threatening). Here is the advice given by our regional park district. (I also have seen signs showing cow's blind spots (mostly their back end) -so avoid frightening them by coming up quickly from behind.Are there Spanish* phrases used when walking near cows? In America, you might hear "hey Bessie," or at least I think that's a thing! What soothing, friendly things might this practically city-slicker say while trying not to convey nervousness to the much larger animals? *And, on the Norte, I suppose there are languages besides Spanish that the local farmers might use.
I have never felt cows scary, but recommend having a strong whistle. I had mine ready in my mouth when a group of large barking dogs (herding a crowd of cattle) came after me and I had to go into the bush to get away before the (huge!) herd of cattle came and passed on the trail I had been walking on. Fortunately, the dogs didn't come close enough that I had to use it
There were plenty on the Frances in 2018Try the VdlP.
It’s the horns!I met herds a couple of times in the hills while walking the San Salvador earlier this year. I didn’t dare walk through as there were calves among them. Fortunately each time I was able to climb above them left and right to pass.
I also grew up on a farm with cattle and was surprised how wary ( or rather scared) I was of them. Then ours didn’t have those weapons of horns and would have been way more used to people.
The last interaction I had with cattle back home a few years ago was heading for the nearest fence to escape an enraged cow with a newborn calf. Luckily there was three of us, fleeing in three different directions , which confused the cow and slowed her down. If one of us had a backpack she would have had them !
There were plenty on the Frances in 2018
I lived and hiked in lots of places with lots of cows (and accidents). My best recommendation is to stay far from them, specially if they have "babies". If the little ones are near, walk very far from them (even if that means you need to go off the trail). If there are no babies and they are on your way (standing), wait to see if they go away while you walk slowly. Take your time and be patient. Do not stress them. If they are laying down, just pass slowly and follow your path.Are there Spanish* phrases used when walking near cows? In America, you might hear "hey Bessie," or at least I think that's a thing! What soothing, friendly things might this practically city-slicker say while trying not to convey nervousness to the much larger animals? *And, on the Norte, I suppose there are languages besides Spanish that the local farmers might use.
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