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If i had to choose my favorite part I'd start in Irun and walk to Bilbao it's basically the start of the north route and is very beautiful as you're walking by the beautiful coastline mostly it should take 6/7 days if you stick with the stages depending on how many km you can do. Then its easy to fly from Bilbao to wherever
Those with flabbier thighs might want Santandar to Gijon
Could be cellulitis get the suction out.Note to self. Check thighs.
Thanks Vacajoe, good questions, I have walked Frances 7 times over the years, need a 7 day next May.Perhaps a bit more info would help us answer:
- what month do you plan to walk?
- do you want ocean scenery, mountain scenery, or ???
- public vs private Albergues or doesn’t matter?
- how do you feel about mountains?
That eliminates quite a bit of the Norte! In particular Irun to Bilbao.I hate mountains. Hates a bad word, "detest" would be better.
Agree!If i had to choose my favorite part I'd start in Irun and walk to Bilbao it's basically the start of the north route and is very beautiful as you're walking by the beautiful coastline mostly it should take 6/7 days if you stick with the stages depending on how many km you can do. Then its easy to fly from Bilbao to wherever
Correct!That eliminates quite a bit of the Norte! In particular Irun to Bilbao.
Thanks for the heads up.That eliminates quite a bit of the Norte! In particular Irun to Bilbao.
Looking at Tui to Santiago? Any thoughts?Yeah, mountains galore at the start of the Norte. Portuguese has climbs, too, so don’t be fooled. I think Bayonne to Irun may meet your needs - some climbs, but nothing like Irun-Bilbao. Plus lovely coastal views and swimming at St Jean de Luz! Or make it a bit longer by going SJPdP to Bayonne to Irun
I would think a different camino would be much more to this person's liking.That eliminates quite a bit of the Norte! In particular Irun to Bilbao.
I'd have to agree having recently completed Bilbao to Llanes. It's not just the hills, it's the grade and the rough paths. It took me a long time to navigate some long stretches. On top of that, often the towns are all hills as well. The brakes on the cars must be amazing and the people must have legs like mountain goars. (I didn't check thighs.)That eliminates quite a bit of the Norte! In particular Irun to Bilbao.
I think that way is alot easier than the Norte and it is very nice. If you want to stay on the coast and not walk the hills than maybe starting in Porto could be a good idea and walk the coastal route.Looking at Tui to Santiago? Any thoughts?
Certainly less hilly and challenging than the Norte, though the first stage of the Spiritual Variant is a nice climb - not difficult, just seemingly endless. I found the CP pleasant enough, but not nearly as beautiful as the Norte or as moving as the CF. However, it’s thoroughly enjoyable and full of nice folks and delicious food. Definitely doable for someone with creaky knees.Looking at Tui to Santiago? Any thoughts?
Oh I was going to switch to Frances after reading the dont do Norte post. That said the route was mostly roadside and Im taking a dog so I thought I couldnt. Id originally thought wed get more gust coastal from the sea. Should I reconsider? Was it roadside?If i had to choose my favorite part I'd start in Irun and walk to Bilbao it's basically the start of the north route and is very beautiful as you're walking by the beautiful coastline mostly it should take 6/7 days if you stick with the stages depending on how many km you can do. Then its easy to fly from Bilbao to wherever
There were parts of road walking on and off but the scenery made up for it, I stopped the north route at Villaviciosa because after that town I think the road walking was more frequent went on to walk the Primitivo route which was mostly softer paths in the mountains which was fantastic. You could possibly take that route if you're going all the way to Santiago.Oh I was going to switch to Frances after reading the dont do Norte post. That said the route was mostly roadside and Im taking a dog so I thought I couldnt. Id originally thought wed get more gust coastal from the sea. Should I reconsider? Was it roadside?
Kat, you've no doubt found lots of other threads about walking with dogs, to which I'd add....Oh I was going to switch to Frances after reading the dont do Norte post. That said the route was mostly roadside and Im taking a dog so I thought I couldnt. Id originally thought wed get more gust coastal from the sea. Should I reconsider? Was it roadside?
Frances it is then I think... pity I dont like crowds but it sounds like the right thing to doKat, you've no doubt found lots of other threads about walking with dogs, to which I'd add....
On balance I'd say go for the Frances because it's just that much better set up to accommodate dogs - I remember seeing private albergues with signs outside saying 'pet-friendly!' and I don't think you'll get much of that on the Norte. We walked for a while with one guy who had quite a lot of rude responses at albergues - they treated him as a vagrant for walking with a dog. At Soto de Luina he was eventually, after much pleading, allowed to sleep outside on the veranda with his dog. But that was a few years ago and maybe attitudes have improved..
Also in hot weather, what you might gain in coastal breezes you lose from the heat in the extra pavements and tarmac, which could be very uncomfortable for paws!
I wouldn't change your itinerary based just on my opinion! Maybe ask the question directly on the forum?Frances it is then I think... pity I dont like crowds but it sounds like the right thing to do
Ribadeo is on the Norte, but Oviedo is on the Primitivo--did you do a different route or detour there?This is easily the most extraordinary part of the del Norte, but it is the most strenuous, particularly the day into Markina/Marquina. Those with flabbier thighs might want Santandar to Gijon, or Oviedo to Ribadeo.
There is a variant of the del Norte which goes from Villaviciosa to Pola de Siero to Oviedo to Avilés.Ribadeo is on the Norte, but Oviedo is on the Primitivo--did you do a different route or detour there?
I walked a good bit of the Norte last year with a guy who did it with his dog. He was camping outside of albergues, and never had a problem. Eventually the dog got tired of walking so far every day, so he had his parents come pick up the dog (he lived in Pamplona). On the other hand, I met a guy who had walked all the way from Belgium with his dog, and that dog only got fed up a day or so before they reached Santiago.Kat, you've no doubt found lots of other threads about walking with dogs, to which I'd add....
On balance I'd say go for the Frances because it's just that much better set up to accommodate dogs - I remember seeing private albergues with signs outside saying 'pet-friendly!' and I don't think you'll get much of that on the Norte. We walked for a while with one guy who had quite a lot of rude responses at albergues - they treated him as a vagrant for walking with a dog. At Soto de Luina he was eventually, after much pleading, allowed to sleep outside on the veranda with his dog. But that was a few years ago and maybe attitudes have improved..
Also in hot weather, what you might gain in coastal breezes you lose from the heat in the extra pavements and tarmac, which could be very uncomfortable for paws!
Today I walked the E9 coastal path from Valdepeñas to Tapia de Casariego. In the rain but this only made it more special. The scenery was so spectacular. If you have the time, take this route! There’s no better way to say goodbye to the coast.Hi Mick
A couple more ideas for the Norte:
- Bilbao to Santander, only about 4.5 days, unless you walk around the bay to Santander, which I've been told is very nice and will add another day. Has the advantage of starting and finishing at cities with good transport connections, which might be important if you only have a week. Lots of great beaches. And you can stay at the famous Guemes albergue.
- Aviles to Ribadeo. This one is a bit of a mixed bag, but the second half you can extend (and go slower than standard stages) by detouring off the standard camino route and meandering along the E9 path around the coast, especially the stages before and after Tapia. Also first/second day, possible detour off to Cudillero, famously cute fishing village on the coast. Luarca reminded me of a Cornish fishing village too.
EDIT - I don't know why I wrote Porto - duh! Now amended to Bilbao