Advice on skipping Meseta

[mary_mh]

Hi everyone, I will set out on my Camino journey next week, but a knee injury has forced me to reconsider my plans. I have shortened my daily distances from St Jean to Burgos and then I have a few days in Santo Domingo de Silos. I had originally planned to walk the Meseta , but I am now considering leaving that section for another time (while I would love to walk it, the Camino is already teaching me to listen to my body).
I am seeking advice about a place to stay for about 10-14 days somewhere between Burgos and Leon or Astorga. I could happily use this time to work on a writing project. I would also be happy to volunteer somewhere for a couple of weeks. (Incidentally, the knee injury is not insignificant - three meniscal tears, a separated lateral ligament and lateral and posterior fluid collections).
I would really value any advice you have. Thanks

 

[alexwalker]

I vwill never give advice on skipping the Meseta...

 

[Davey Boyd]

If I had to lay up for a while in the area Burgos-Leon-Astorga it would be at the wonderful albergue La Finca in Poblacion de Campos a few km from Fromista. Wonderful place, private sleeping places, great food, nice family. Many would choose cities, but I don't like them much. It is a private albergue so no problem staying a while. They might like a little help too if you ask.

Get well soon, wherever you go enjoy your rest

Davey

 

[mary_mh]

I vwill never give advice on skipping the Meseta...

I wish...but another time

 

[mary_mh]

If I had to lay up for a while in the area Burgos-Leon-Astorga it would be at the wonderful albergue La Finca in Poblacion de Campos a few km from Fromista. Wonderful place, private sleeping places, great food, nice family. Many would choose cities, but I don't like them much. It is a private albergue so no problem staying a while. They might like a little help too if you ask.

Get well soon, wherever you go enjoy your rest

Davey

Thanks Davey - I will look into it!

 

[Sho]

I found Astorga delightful. It's also reasonably compact, which could help you stay off your feet. I holed up in Burgos for 3 nights to rest my feet, but I think Astorga would be better.

 

[Davey Boyd]

I vwill never give advice on skipping the Meseta...

Nor me usually. Its my favorite part! But sometimes needs must. Most people with an injury just go home not hole up for 10-14 days and carry on, so kudos there.

Davey

 

[hel&scott]

When I see questions about skipping the "boring" or tough bits of a Camino it makes me feel sad. Sure, if you want to be a tourist then skip ahead and cherry pick the Camino, you'll have a lovely holiday. But if you want to get the most out of the Camino pick a start point that fits your fitness and time constraints and you will get the satisfaction of finishing what you started.

@mary_mh if you are worried about your knee then don't start at SJPP, crossing over the Pyrenees is going to give you far more problems then the Meseta. You don't have to start the French Route at the border. Why not take few days and visit Le Puy and St Jean before starting walking at Burgos, or wherever you feel you can manage. Then take shorter days and do your writing in the afternoon. You'll put less stress on your body and have more time to walk, think and write.

 

[KinkyOne]

Well, with this "Incidentally, the knee injury is not insignificant - three meniscal tears, a separated lateral ligament and lateral and posterior fluid collections " I would definitely NOT walk from Astorga and over the hills into Galicia. On the contrary exactly the Meseta would be my choice even after 2 weeks rest. But I would probably go home and return later with hopefully completely healed knee.

Anyway Buen Camino!

 

[mary_mh]

When I see questions about skipping the "boring" or tough bits of a Camino it makes me feel sad. Sure, if you want to be a tourist then skip ahead and cherry pick the Camino, you'll have a lovely holiday. But if you want to get the most out of the Camino pick a start point that fits your fitness and time constraints and you will get the satisfaction of finishing what you started.

@mary_mh if you are worried about your knee then don't start at SJPP, crossing over the Pyrenees is going to give you far more problems then the Meseta. You don't have to start the French Route at the border. Why not take few days and visit Le Puy and St Jean before starting walking at Burgos, or wherever you feel you can manage. Then take shorter days and do your writing in the afternoon. You'll put less stress on your body and have more time to walk, think and write.

Hi and thanks for your reply. I hesitated about posting about this issue as in my reading of many other posts I see judgemental replies - and I hoped that people would consider my question in the spirit it was intended. I am not planning to be a tourist or to have a holiday -norhaveisuggested that the Meseta is boring. I am genuinely aiming to balance an injury with a pilgrimage. So don’t be ‘sad’ at what you perceive about my intentions please.
But thank you for your other suggestions and best wishes.

 

[mary_mh]

Well, with this "Incidentally, the knee injury is not insignificant - three meniscal tears, a separated lateral ligament and lateral and posterior fluid collections " I would definitely NOT walk from Astorga and over the hills into Galicia. On the contrary exactly the Meseta would be my choice even after 2 weeks rest. But I would probably go home and return later with hopefully completely healed knee.

Anyway Buen Camino!

Thanks! Hard decisions indeed...

 

[Saint Mike II]

Hola @mary_mh ; I am not a medico, but I would agree with some of the above comments - three meniscal tears, plus associated issues is definitely not incidental. That first day from St Jean to Roncesvalles via Orisson is potentially the most difficult day of the whole camino. Even the climb up the Alto del Perdon west of Pamplona is a tough climb. Starting in Burgos might be better. But for me it might be a case of "bight the bullet" and go home to seek expert medical advice and then allow the problem to heal. Cheers

 

[mary_mh]

Hola @mary_mh ; I am not a medico, but I would agree with some of the above comments - three meniscal tears, plus associated issues is definitely not incidental. That first day from St Jean to Roncesvalles via Orisson is potentially the most difficult day of the whole camino. Even the climb up the Alto del Perdon west of Pamplona is a tough climb. Starting in Burgos might be better. But for me it might be a case of "bight the bullet" and go home to seek expert medical advice and then allow the problem to heal. Cheers

Hi and thanks Mike! I’m actually still at home and under specialist orthopaedic care, planning on leaving next week. I’m really reluctant to let go of that first week as I’m doing it with my son - just for one week. I’ve waited so long to do it. My doctor supports my decision but advises me to be guided by pain. Which I will do. But I have to try. Then I’ll rest it for a while . Thank you for your thoughts

 

[Margaret Butterworth]

Do you have good medical insurance? Read the small print!

 

[nycwalking]

I’m sorry but I’d skip the other parts and walk the meseta.

Hope all ends well.

Buen camino.

 

[trecile]

@mary_mh if you are worried about your knee then don't start at SJPP, crossing over the Pyrenees is going to give you far more problems then the Meseta. You don't have to start the French Route at the border. Why not take few days and visit Le Puy and St Jean before starting walking at Burgos, or wherever you feel you can manage. Then take shorter days and do your writing in the afternoon. You'll put less stress on your body and have more time to walk, think and write.

That was my thought. I don't get the point of walking the hills with a bad knee and skipping the flatter parts.

 

[Kiwi-family]

It just may need to be part of your son’s Camino that he has to give up something too - either walk a flat bit with you (and go back to do the other bit once you stop) or miss out on walking with his mum/mom. If you did OK on the flatter parts maybe you too could backtrack, and if not, at least you’re likely to have given yourself a greater chance of succeeding.

 

[Devereaux]

If I had a bad knee, I'd wait those 10-14 days at home and then strike out. However,
I agree with those above, do the Meseta and skip the hills at either end if you have to make a choice. It's much flatter and contrary to some tales, quite beautiful, and the comraderie at the albergues along that section is wonderful, if you like that.
Leon is a wonderful city to spend time in! And there are good medical facilities there. I messed up my back badly and barely limped into Leon. A great PA worked me over, taped me up, had me wait an extra day and let me go. Worked like a charm. If the load on your knee gets too bad, you can always take a day pack and forward your backpack via the transfer services which are excellent along that section.
There's magic on the Meseta!

 

[KinkyOne]

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My doctor supports my decision but advises me to be guided by pain. Which I will do. But I have to try. Then I’ll rest it for a while . Thank you for your thoughts

I'm not a doctor, far from it but I seriously injured my both knees in my youth in rock climbing accident. I'm always very careful because I don't want to end up in a wheelchair (which was 50:50 prediction when it happened) before I'll walk at least another 10 Caminos

As a Camino junkie I can understand your anticipation about walking it but just let me tell you a short story about my first (attempt at) Camino Frances althought I might sound as a broken record because I've already mentioned it a few times in similar threads. Yes I admit I was training for the Camino, stupid me. And while jogging in the city streets I sprained my ankle. Because it has happened to me so many times before (playing basketball mainly) I just limped around and didn't rest because I thought it'll be OK and also I have had so much work at that time, the plane tickets were bought and so on. I went on that Camino with my mom and already at Stansted airport staff offered me special attention and wheelchair etc. So it looked serious enough to others although "I'm THE tough guy". No, no, no, I don't need anything...

I limped in tears (despite the Ibuprofeno etc.) to Logrono where the doctor told me to go home or I'll never walk normaly again in my life because I had already ripped ankle ligaments. She said: "Camino will be here, don't you worry!" I did go home eventually, crying (I was 39 then).

Two years later I returned (sadly without my mom) and it was the time of my life. The rest is history which you can find under this post in my signature. I still feel some uneasiness with my ankle but I can walk. Oh, yes I can!!!

Do you want too?

 

[mary_mh]

I'm not a doctor, far from it but I did seriously injured my both knees in my youth in rock climbing accident. I'm always very careful because I don't want to end up in a wheelchair (which was 50:50 prediction when it happened) before I'll walk at least another 10 Caminos

As a Camino junkie I can understand your anticipation about walking it but just let me tell you a short story about my first (attempt at) Camino Frances althought I might sound as a broken record because I've already mentioned it a few times in similar threads. Yes I admit I was training for the Camino, stupid me. And while jogging in the city streets I sprained my ankle. Because it has happened to me so many times before (playing basketball mainly) I just limped around and didn't rest because I thought it'll be OK and also I have had so much work at that time, the plane tickets were bought and so on. I went on that Camino with my mom and already at Stansted airport staff offered me special attention and wheelchair etc. So it looked serious enough to others although "I'm THE tough guy". No, no, no, I don't need anything...

I limped in tears (despite the Ibuprofeno etc.) to Logrono where the doctor told me to go home or I'll never walk normaly again in my life because I had already ripped ankle ligaments. She said: "Camino will be here, don't you worry!" I did go home eventually, crying (I was 39 then).

Two years later I returned (sadly without my mom) and it was the time of my life. The rest is history which you can find under this post in my signature. I still feel some uneasiness with my ankle but I can walk. Oh, yes I can!!!

Do you want too?

Thanks for sharing this Kinky One - it really touches me and I can see I have some hard thinking to do. I am so disappointed, and maybe there’s a lesson to be learnt there about my expectations. Maybe I can rest up somewhere nice and walk a stage later (I have 2 months), and return to other stages in years to come. I’m in my 60’s and have this sense of urgency that I’ll have to try and let go of it. As you say, the Camino will still be there Thanks so much

 

[KinkyOne]

Thanks for sharing this Kinky One - it really touches me and I can see I have some hard thinking to do. I am so disappointed, and maybe there’s a lesson to be learnt there about my expectations. Maybe I can rest up somewhere nice and walk a stage later (I have 2 months), and return to other stages in years to come. I’m in my 60’s and have this sense of urgency that I’ll have to try and let go of it. As you say, the Camino will still be there Thanks so much

De nada, Mary!

What about letting your son walking but you taking a public transport on steep sections (downhill mostly of course)? And while waiting for him enjoying architecture, the peace of all those old churches, visiting museums, enjoying the food. Or just lingering somewhere with a good read.

It's not your age the reason that you have to rush anything. On the contrary, it's your age you shouldn't or you may ruin your prospects for later! Anyway at 60's you're still a young gurl

Be well!

 

[trecile]

Thanks for sharing this Kinky One - it really touches me and I can see I have some hard thinking to do. I am so disappointed, and maybe there’s a lesson to be learnt there about my expectations. Maybe I can rest up somewhere nice and walk a stage later (I have 2 months), and return to other stages in years to come. I’m in my 60’s and have this sense of urgency that I’ll have to try and let go of it. As you say, the Camino will still be there Thanks so much

I have a friend who walked his first Camino for his 75th birthday. And his second for his 76th. And his third this year for his 77th...

 

[VNwalking]

I can see I have some hard thinking to do. I am so disappointed, and maybe there’s a lesson to be learnt there about my expectations. Maybe I can rest up somewhere nice and walk a stage later (I have 2 months), and return to other stages in years to come. I’m in my 60’s and have this sense of urgency that I’ll have to try and let go of it. As you say, the Camino will still be there

This is a conundrum, to be sure. As others have said, the ups and downs in the first part of the Frances would be much harder on your injured knee than the meseta (which is by no means completely flat, but definitely less wrinkled.
I'm not clear on your timeline: you had planned to walk with your son for the first week, yes? And finishing in Santiago?

It may pay to think outside the box: for example, start in Santo Domingo de Silos instead of SJPP, walk across the meseta, and then up to Rabinal, staying there for a retreat if your knee is feeling the strain. The Benedictine monks there have a guest house where you can take retreat time. But definitely do not hesitate to take a taxi past the most punishing downhill bits (for example, Acebo to Molinaseca)

 

[KinkyOne]

This is a conundrum, to be sure. As others have said, the ups and downs in the first part of the Frances would be much harder on your injured knee than the meseta (which is by no means completely flat, but definitely less wrinkled.
I'm not clear on your timeline: you had planned to walk with your son for the first week, yes? And finishing in Santiago?

It may pay to think outside the box: for example, start in Santo Domingo de Silos instead of SJPP, walk across the meseta, and then up to Rabinal, staying there for a retreat if your knee is feeling the strain. But defitely do not hesitate to take a taxi past the most punishing downhill bits (for example, Acebo to Molinaseca)

Santo Domingo de Silos isn't on Camino Frances
Or you meant Santo Domingo de la Calzada perhaps?

 

[VNwalking]

Santo Domingo de Silos isn't on Camino Frances

Well, of course I am very well aware of that, and meant what I said.
The OP had mentioned staying there, and it is a nice walk from there to Burgos....

 

[KinkyOne]

Well, of course I am very well aware of that, and meant what I said.
The OP had mentioned staying there, and it is a nice walk from there to Burgos....

Indeed she mentioned that. My bad. Sorry

 

[VNwalking]

My bad. Sorry

You can't be a bad pilgrim, K1. That name's already taken.
Well, there is nothing to forgive - you just made a mistake. But thank you anyway.

 

[nycwalking]

You can't be a bad pilgrim, K1. That name's already taken.
Well, there is nothing to forgive - you just made a mistake. But thank you anyway.

Bad pilgrim, bad pilgrim.

Bad harvest, bad harvest.

The thread of life.

 

[Deleted member 76633]

What about letting your son walking but you taking a public transport on steep sections (downhill mostly of course)?

At SJPP, Express Bouricott runs a bus up to the top of the pass if you are happy with the downhill. Agree that knees and hills don't mix.

Plus 1 for doing the Meseta though. And Leon if you intend to stay a while.

 

[mary_mh]

This is a conundrum, to be sure. As others have said, the ups and downs in the first part of the Frances would be much harder on your injured knee than the meseta (which is by no means completely flat, but definitely less wrinkled.
I'm not clear on your timeline: you had planned to walk with your son for the first week, yes? And finishing in Santiago?

It may pay to think outside the box: for example, start in Santo Domingo de Silos instead of SJPP, walk across the meseta, and then up to Rabinal, staying there for a retreat if your knee is feeling the strain. The Benedictine monks there have a guest house where you can take retreat time. But definitely do not hesitate to take a taxi past the most punishing downhill bits (for example, Acebo to Molinaseca)

Great suggestions! Thanks. Lots to consider. Timeline was to do SJPP to Pamplona with my son, week one. Then he has to return to London and I was going to carry on to Santiago over the next 6 or so weeks.

 

[caminoresearcher]

As someone who also suffered from knee issues on Camino, I will just say that the flat Meseta is 10000 times more forgiving to your knees than the mountainous bookends.

 

[mary_mh]

Thanks everyone for responding. You’ve made me rethink the Meseta. This will be my first Camino and I suppose I mistakenly thought that the Meseta was one of the hardest sections physically. But sounds like it might be a good section for me.
I’m thinking of taking the bourricot shuttle from SJPP halfway to Roncesvalles, which would leave me 12k. I think with my knee brace and poles this might be manageable. Then short sections to Pamplona.

 

[Simon B]

I vwill never give advice on skipping the Meseta...

Nor would I!!

 

[PilgrimJames]

Hi everyone, I will set out on my Camino journey next week, but a knee injury has forced me to reconsider my plans. I have shortened my daily distances from St Jean to Burgos and then I have a few days in Santo Domingo de Silos. I had originally planned to walk the Meseta , but I am now considering leaving that section for another time (while I would love to walk it, the Camino is already teaching me to listen to my body).
I am seeking advice about a place to stay for about 10-14 days somewhere between Burgos and Leon or Astorga. I could happily use this time to work on a writing project. I would also be happy to volunteer somewhere for a couple of weeks. (Incidentally, the knee injury is not insignificant - three meniscal tears, a separated lateral ligament and lateral and posterior fluid collections).
I would really value any advice you have. Thanks

You are wise to protect your body and health. But - you simply must walk the Meseta sometime. Not advice just my opinion.

 

[MarkyD]

Hi everyone, I will set out on my Camino journey next week, but a knee injury has forced me to reconsider my plans. I have shortened my daily distances from St Jean to Burgos and then I have a few days in Santo Domingo de Silos. I had originally planned to walk the Meseta , but I am now considering leaving that section for another time (while I would love to walk it, the Camino is already teaching me to listen to my body).
I am seeking advice about a place to stay for about 10-14 days somewhere between Burgos and Leon or Astorga. I could happily use this time to work on a writing project. I would also be happy to volunteer somewhere for a couple of weeks. (Incidentally, the knee injury is not insignificant - three meniscal tears, a separated lateral ligament and lateral and posterior fluid collections).
I would really value any advice you have. Thanks

Hi Mary, sorry to hear that you're suffering from those injuries, it's bound to make you stop and rest - which is a good thing. It's very hot out there, and this week temperatures are rising again.
As you have complicated knee injuries, the stages after the Meseta would likely cause more difficulty than the Meseta. It's not so much the inclines, but the descents are steep and rugged in many places, especially into Molinaseca (although the longer descent by road avoids the really rough and rocky path). From Molinaseca to Vega del Valcarce is relatively flat, but after that it's 'rock and roll' all the way to SdC, although after O'Cebreiro the hills are less extreme - but it's rarely flat for very long.
So, for your knees to be less loaded, the Meseta would be far easier. There is a short hill just after Castrojeriz with a short but steep descent on to the plains beyond. The main difficulty of the Meseta for someone with knee issues would be the distances between some towns or villages, which can mean you might have to walk longer distances before you can stopover anywhere.
If it were me, I would probably use those 14 days to rest and then walk short flat sections of the Camino only and explore more of the sites, culture and summer fiestas etc. So perhaps the first 5 - 7 days resting and physio in a town/village with a variety of facilities and places of interest such as: Castrojeriz, Frómista, Sahagún, Villarente, León, Hospital del Órbigo, Astorga. As it's hot, maybe look for villages and albergues with swimming pools - great physiotherapy for knees and body in general. You don't have to stay in the same towns/villages every day of rest. A bus or taxi (depending on budget) to another town might be a more enjoyable way to pass the time while still resting your body.
Then, depending on how you feel, time available etc. maybe you could consider a coach to Sarria (or further back from Triacastela via Samos to Saria) and join the hordes for the last 100km, it's not everyone's cup of tea, but in your condition having lots of company and support nearby would give you some feeling of security to continue the last part and still earn your Compostela certificate (should you wish to have one).
If by that time your knees are coping well and you have days spare before going home, then you could consider doing part of the SdC - Muxia - Fisterra - SdC loop.
Just a few suggestions for you, I hope it helps.
A big Camino pilgrim hug to you,
Mark

 

[Shalaw]

Or....horror of horrors....you can do what I did and cycle through the meseta. It was lovely, and we cut down 6-7 days of walking to 2.5 days. I will go back some year though, and only walk the meseta.

Buen camino!

 

[John Sikora]

As a few others have said, the challenge on the Meseta is not the ups and downs but rather the "desolation" I personally liked the Meseta. It reminded me of West Texas a bit. You'll have more problems with your body on the other sections of the Camino rather than the Meseta.

 

[Deleted member 76633]

I’m thinking of taking the bourricot shuttle from SJPP halfway to Roncesvalles

Just another heads-up on that section. When you start the descent (over the cattle grid and past the coffee stall) the signs point to quite a steep downhill path. If you go right on the road, it meanders down gently. Longer but better on the knees. Road joins the main SJPP/Roncevalles road about a mile or so above the village.

 

[erikakiana]

If I'm honest, there isn't much between Burgos and León. Carrión de los Condes and Sahagún aren't too bad, but a lot of it is small villages. Or, even if you could stay in León, it was a lovely town, as was Astorga.

 

[David Tallan]

Thanks everyone for responding. You’ve made me rethink the Meseta. This will be my first Camino and I suppose I mistakenly thought that the Meseta was one of the hardest sections physically. But sounds like it might be a good section for me.
I’m thinking of taking the bourricot shuttle from SJPP halfway to Roncesvalles, which would leave me 12k. I think with my knee brace and poles this might be manageable. Then short sections to Pamplona.

I had knee issues when I walked the Camino (although I suspect not nearly so bad as yours). I will agree with others that, respecting your decision to take it easy on the knees, the places to skip to protect your knees are not necessarily on the Meseta, a message that the quote above shows you've received. So perhaps it might be useful to point out some of the regions that my memory calls to mind as particularly challenging for the knees.

Some of those parts are right at the beginning: the descent to Zubiri between Roncesvalles and Pamplona, the descent from the Alto de Perdon between Pamplona and Puente la Reina. If it were me with the bad knee, I might check and see if my son was willing to walk from Puente la Reina to Logroño instead of SJPP to Pamplona.

Other sections that you might want to watch out for are from the Cruz de Ferro to Molinaseca and from O Cebreiro to Triacastela around the west end of the Castilla Leon and the east end of Galicia. When I had a bad knee I took advantage of the bike rentals in O Cebreiro and biked to Triacastela, spending a day as a bicigrino.

 

[Hurry Krishna]

Hi everyone, I will set out on my Camino journey next week, but a knee injury has forced me to reconsider my plans. I have shortened my daily distances from St Jean to Burgos and then I have a few days in Santo Domingo de Silos. I had originally planned to walk the Meseta , but I am now considering leaving that section for another time (while I would love to walk it, the Camino is already teaching me to listen to my body).
I am seeking advice about a place to stay for about 10-14 days somewhere between Burgos and Leon or Astorga. I could happily use this time to work on a writing project. I would also be happy to volunteer somewhere for a couple of weeks. (Incidentally, the knee injury is not insignificant - three meniscal tears, a separated lateral ligament and lateral and posterior fluid collections).
I would really value any advice you have. Thanks

Have you walked the Meseta before? It is not by any stretch the hardest on the knees. Though I don’t like the Meseta personally, the walking itself is pretty easy for most people.

 

[TSchulen]

The first three days from SJPdP are tough for people in good physical shape, let alone recovering from an injury. It's not the uphill that makes it tough, it's the uneven ground and steep decent. If you insist on walking, please be careful and make sure you have a good brace for your knee to prevent further damage. if you don't feel 100%, I would take a bus or shuttle until you get past the decent of Alto de Perdon.

Buen Camino!

 

[LTfit]

It just may need to be part of your son’s Camino that he has to give up something too - either walk a flat bit with you (and go back to do the other bit once you stop) or miss out on walking with his mum/mom. If you did OK on the flatter parts maybe you too could backtrack, and if not, at least you’re likely to have given yourself a greater chance of succeeding.

I of course wish you well whatever you choose to do but I have to agree with @Kiwi-family.

As a few others have also said, do not underestimate the difficulty of walking (especially the downhill!) from SJPDP. No, I am not a physician but I am a physiotherapist and a veteran Camino walker. I am afraid that you are setting yourself up for failure. Many without knee issues find that first day difficult. The day out of Pamplona with the descent to Uterga is also a b*tch.

Why not start in Burgos? It is certainly a easy city to get to. One winter I walked Burgos-Sarria and really enjoyed it.

Ultreia.

 

[steve 217]

I agree with every bit of good sense here
The Camino will still be there heal and return if possible if not the meseta is not to be missed imho however i love Astorga as a place of enforced rest .let the Camino and your body decide . Ultreia

 

[Ed Aster]

I just finished the Meseta in June and enjoyed it immensely, it is flat, forgiving and a great opportunity to discover sides of oneself that lay hidden. Consider it your go to place as it will be kind to your knees and if done with common sense will give you great joy and satisfaction.

 

[diterry]

Nor me usually. Its my favorite part! But sometimes needs must. Most people with an injury just go home not hole up for 10-14 days and carry on, so kudos there.

Davey

2 years ago my husband had a bad mussel in Castrojeriz forcing us to leave the Camino in Fromista for Leon and medical care. After 4 days we were able to continue walking to Santiago. We return to Spain on 9/21 to walk from Fromista to Leon. The meseta beckons!

 

[neverlost4good]

How about taking transportation and visiting Burgos, Fromista, Shahagun (so), Leon, Villa Franca and Ocebraro?
You could also rent a car or take a train along the Camino Norte. Spain is so lovely. Enjoy exploring: you’ll be back.

 

[Tom Quinn]

Hola @mary_mh ; I am not a medico, but I would agree with some of the above comments - three meniscal tears, plus associated issues is definitely not incidental. That first day from St Jean to Roncesvalles via Orisson is potentially the most difficult day of the whole camino. Even the climb up the Alto del Perdon west of Pamplona is a tough climb. Starting in Burgos might be better. But for me it might be a case of "bight the bullet" and go home to seek expert medical advice and then allow the problem to heal. Cheers

 

[Tom Quinn]

Time takes time. If you are not ready, accept that limitation and walk when you are reasonably fit. JMHO.

 

[mary_mh]

Hi Mary, sorry to hear that you're suffering from those injuries, it's bound to make you stop and rest - which is a good thing. It's very hot out there, and this week temperatures are rising again.
As you have complicated knee injuries, the stages after the Meseta would likely cause more difficulty than the Meseta. It's not so much the inclines, but the descents are steep and rugged in many places, especially into Molinaseca (although the longer descent by road avoids the really rough and rocky path). From Molinaseca to Vega del Valcarce is relatively flat, but after that it's 'rock and roll' all the way to SdC, although after O'Cebreiro the hills are less extreme - but it's rarely flat for very long.
So, for your knees to be less loaded, the Meseta would be far easier. There is a short hill just after Castrojeriz with a short but steep descent on to the plains beyond. The main difficulty of the Meseta for someone with knee issues would be the distances between some towns or villages, which can mean you might have to walk longer distances before you can stopover anywhere.
If it were me, I would probably use those 14 days to rest and then walk short flat sections of the Camino only and explore more of the sites, culture and summer fiestas etc. So perhaps the first 5 - 7 days resting and physio in a town/village with a variety of facilities and places of interest such as: Castrojeriz, Frómista, Sahagún, Villarente, León, Hospital del Órbigo, Astorga. As it's hot, maybe look for villages and albergues with swimming pools - great physiotherapy for knees and body in general. You don't have to stay in the same towns/villages every day of rest. A bus or taxi (depending on budget) to another town might be a more enjoyable way to pass the time while still resting your body.
Then, depending on how you feel, time available etc. maybe you could consider a coach to Sarria (or further back from Triacastela via Samos to Saria) and join the hordes for the last 100km, it's not everyone's cup of tea, but in your condition having lots of company and support nearby would give you some feeling of security to continue the last part and still earn your Compostela certificate (should you wish to have one).
If by that time your knees are coping well and you have days spare before going home, then you could consider doing part of the SdC - Muxia - Fisterra - SdC loop.
Just a few suggestions for you, I hope it helps.
A big Camino pilgrim hug to you,
Mark

Great suggestions Marky, and really helpful information, thanks!

 

[mary_mh]

Just another heads-up on that section. When you start the descent (over the cattle grid and past the coffee stall) the signs point to quite a steep downhill path. If you go right on the road, it meanders down gently. Longer but better on the knees. Road joins the main SJPP/Roncevalles road about a mile or so above the village.

Great!! Thanks, great to know.

 

[mary_mh]

I had knee issues when I walked the Camino (although I suspect not nearly so bad as yours). I will agree with others that, respecting your decision to take it easy on the knees, the places to skip to protect your knees are not necessarily on the Meseta, a message that the quote above shows you've received. So perhaps it might be useful to point out some of the regions that my memory calls to mind as particularly challenging for the knees.

Some of those parts are right at the beginning: the descent to Zubiri between Roncesvalles and Pamplona, the descent from the Alto de Perdon between Pamplona and Puente la Reina. If it were me with the bad knee, I might check and see if my son was willing to walk from Puente la Reina to Logroño instead of SJPP to Pamplona.

Other sections that you might want to watch out for are from the Cruz de Ferro to Molinaseca and from O Cebreiro to Triacastela around the west end of the Castilla Leon and the east end of Galicia. When I had a bad knee I took advantage of the bike rentals in O Cebreiro and biked to Triacastela, spending a day as a bicigrino.

Thanks David. This is really helpful information.

 

[mary_mh]

I just finished the Meseta in June and enjoyed it immensely, it is flat, forgiving and a great opportunity to discover sides of oneself that lay hidden. Consider it your go to place as it will be kind to your knees and if done with common sense will give you great joy and satisfaction.

Thanks Ed, really encouraging.

 

[Lel]

When I see questions about skipping the "boring" or tough bits of a Camino it makes me feel sad. Sure, if you want to be a tourist then skip ahead and cherry pick the Camino, you'll have a lovely holiday. But if you want to get the most out of the Camino pick a start point that fits your fitness and time constraints and you will get the satisfaction of finishing what you started.

@mary_mh if you are worried about your knee then don't start at SJPP, crossing over the Pyrenees is going to give you far more problems then the Meseta. You don't have to start the French Route at the border. Why not take few days and visit Le Puy and St Jean before starting walking at Burgos, or wherever you feel you can manage. Then take shorter days and do your writing in the afternoon. You'll put less stress on your body and have more time to walk, think and write.

I agree- these days the things I read in this forum make me realise that the Camino is just a slightly exciting holiday to these people.

 

[VNwalking]

Timeline was to do SJPP to Pamplona with my son, week one.

The first 2 (or 3) days (between SJPP and Zubiri), and then the day out of Pamplona would be hard on your knee. @LTfit 's right, that descent to Uterga is terrible. Loose rolling rocks about the size of grapefruit or oranges make it so much fun. And the descent to Zubiri is 'fun,' too (not).
Someone's suggestion to start in Logroño is another good alternative. The terrain is rolling there, and not too hard on the joints.

 

[Carolyn G]

That was my thought. I don't get the point of walking the hills with a bad knee and skipping the flatter parts.

 

[Carolyn G]

If you want the fullest experience and protect your knee, consider skipping these descents:
Roncesvalles to Zubiri (badly made uneven steps)
Maybe the decline after Alto de Perdon (cab pick up possible there)
Definitely skip the descent from The Iron Cross to Molinaseca
Maybe the descent from O’Cebreiro
Make sure your travel insurance covers pre-existing conditions. My husband damaged his knee coming down from Roncesvalles but was able to complete the trek by skipping the hazardous descents. Sometimes a physical therapist is easier to find than a doctor in the small villages. We found them to be very helpful. Hope you have a great time - Buen Camino!

 

[marigold]

This is a conundrum, to be sure. As others have said, the ups and downs in the first part of the Frances would be much harder on your injured knee than the meseta (which is by no means completely flat, but definitely less wrinkled.
I'm not clear on your timeline: you had planned to walk with your son for the first week, yes? And finishing in Santiago?

It may pay to think outside the box: for example, start in Santo Domingo de Silos instead of SJPP, walk across the meseta, and then up to Rabinal, staying there for a retreat if your knee is feeling the strain. The Benedictine monks there have a guest house where you can take retreat time. But definitely do not hesitate to take a taxi past the most punishing downhill bits (for example, Acebo to Molinaseca)

Noo! Don't do that, get your knee better, then go and do the whole thing, that's my advice. Placebo to Molinaseca is one of my favourite bits- so beautiful! Best wishes..

 

[marigold]

Noo! Don't do that, get your knee better, then go and do the whole thing, that's my advice. Placebo to Molinaseca is one of my favourite bits- so beautiful! Best wishes..

(Acebo, not placebo!)

 

[longwalker60]

Hi everyone, I will set out on my Camino journey next week, but a knee injury has forced me to reconsider my plans. I have shortened my daily distances from St Jean to Burgos and then I have a few days in Santo Domingo de Silos. I had originally planned to walk the Meseta , but I am now considering leaving that section for another time (while I would love to walk it, the Camino is already teaching me to listen to my body).
I am seeking advice about a place to stay for about 10-14 days somewhere between Burgos and Leon or Astorga. I could happily use this time to work on a writing project. I would also be happy to volunteer somewhere for a couple of weeks. (Incidentally, the knee injury is not insignificant - three meniscal tears, a separated lateral ligament and lateral and posterior fluid collections).
I would really value any advice you have. Thanks

Your body is telling you its time for a rest. If you push it, you may end up punishing your body further andmay not complete your journey. I skipped the meseta, took a few days off in Leon, and a few more in Santiago. Glad I did, i got to see and do so much more, especially in Santiago. Buen Camino.

 

[JuliaBG]

I have an old knee injury and damaged but not completely torn meniscus and I suffer with some pain in the knee very often. Although I am often in the mountains I really suffered going down from Cruz de Ferro to Molinaseca and from O'Cebreiro to Triacstela. So, I highly recommend you to skip these two stages. Walking the Meseta and skipping SJPP to Roncesvalles sounds also a good idea I think, but as long as I started in Leon, I haven't experience that part of the Camino.
I would also recommend you to use luggage transport if your knee hurts a lot, because heavy backpacks also affect the knees. I had mine with me all the time, but I met a woman that preferred this service exactly because of a knee injury. Good luck and be wise, because it is a very thin line between enjoying the Camino and suffering it! You don't need to suffer there, do you

 

[VNwalking]

do the whole thing

There is no 'whole thing;' St Jean is a totally arbitrary starting point. So unless your pilgrimage is to a certain Hollywood movie, any place wil do. The point is to begin, and walk.

 

[gerip]

That was my thought. I don't get the point of walking the hills with a bad knee and skipping the flatter parts.

Especially downhill.

 

[gerip]

Hi everyone, I will set out on my Camino journey next week, but a knee injury has forced me to reconsider my plans. I have shortened my daily distances from St Jean to Burgos and then I have a few days in Santo Domingo de Silos. I had originally planned to walk the Meseta , but I am now considering leaving that section for another time (while I would love to walk it, the Camino is already teaching me to listen to my body).
I am seeking advice about a place to stay for about 10-14 days somewhere between Burgos and Leon or Astorga. I could happily use this time to work on a writing project. I would also be happy to volunteer somewhere for a couple of weeks. (Incidentally, the knee injury is not insignificant - three meniscal tears, a separated lateral ligament and lateral and posterior fluid collections).
I would really value any advice you have. Thanks

You didn't say how long ago you injured your knee. Having done the same myself some years ago, I was off work six weeks with physio before I went back to work (as a teacher, on my feet most of the day). I was cycling, but no way could I have tramped up and down hills. And whoever said check your insurance is right. As this is a pre-existing condition, if you needed to be evacuated from some spot in the Pyrenees because you weren't able to continue you'd bear the entire cost.
Were you injured before you took out trip insurance? Was your trip planned before you were injured? Depending on your situation, you may be able to cancel and be reimbursed for some or most of your expenses.

 

[Jim]

Hi Mary— I think you are smart to know you have a medical problem and are willing to make compromises. A suggestion that I would make is to skip certain sections that would be particularly aggravating to knees and instead of spending nearly two weeks in one place, pick a few places along the trail to rest up. One thing that happens with knees is that many don’t experience any major discomfort until days later when the last piece of tissue snaps. Are you planning to take along braces? I myself use an unloader brace for left knee and pull up brace for the right. There are buses and taxis all along the Frances to get around tough areas.
Off the top of my head, besides the descent into Roncevalles, the ones descending from Alto del Perdon and the descent into Viana are formidable— 18% grade. There is the descent from El Acebo to Molinaseca that is also treacherous. The hill into Galicia was already mentioned so you were informed that the climb up to O Cebreiro and the descent into Triacastela could also be problematic. Take a good look at the HILL PROFILES listed on some of the map sites and in Brierley’s guidebook to figure out what to do. It’s your Camino and your body! A reminder that there are few “rules” and everyone knows that— I am really disappointed at the tone of a few other posts.
As far as where to stay, a lot would depend on your interests. Some of the guidebooks give good descriptions of what is available in certain towns- so many are what I would deem “special.” If I ever go back through Atapuerca, for example, I would stay over at least an extra day when a visit to the dig sites could be arranged—I found the visit to the Museum of Human Evolution on the other side of the river from the cathedral in Burgos very interesting— at the time I went, it was free to those holding a pilgrim’s credential.
Buen Camino to you! When you finish and arrive back home, be sure to post as to how it went for you and any noteworthy recommendations you would make to those in a similar situation.

 

[M&A]

Hi everyone, I will set out on my Camino journey next week, but a knee injury has forced me to reconsider my plans. I have shortened my daily distances from St Jean to Burgos and then I have a few days in Santo Domingo de Silos. I had originally planned to walk the Meseta , but I am now considering leaving that section for another time (while I would love to walk it, the Camino is already teaching me to listen to my body).
I am seeking advice about a place to stay for about 10-14 days somewhere between Burgos and Leon or Astorga. I could happily use this time to work on a writing project. I would also be happy to volunteer somewhere for a couple of weeks. (Incidentally, the knee injury is not insignificant - three meniscal tears, a separated lateral ligament and lateral and posterior fluid collections).
I would really value any advice you have. Thanks

Hi everyone, I will set out on my Camino journey next week, but a knee injury has forced me to reconsider my plans. I have shortened my daily distances from St Jean to Burgos and then I have a few days in Santo Domingo de Silos. I had originally planned to walk the Meseta , but I am now considering leaving that section for another time (while I would love to walk it, the Camino is already teaching me to listen to my body).
I am seeking advice about a place to stay for about 10-14 days somewhere between Burgos and Leon or Astorga. I could happily use this time to work on a writing project. I would also be happy to volunteer somewhere for a couple of weeks. (Incidentally, the knee injury is not insignificant - three meniscal tears, a separated lateral ligament and lateral and posterior fluid collections).
I would really value any advice you have. Thanks

As already advised I would be inclined to start around Estella to Burgos which is much less strenuous than from SJPD . I finished in Burgos this June so haven't reached the Mesata yet.

 

[David Tallan]

Noo! Don't do that, get your knee better, then go and do the whole thing, that's my advice. Aacebo to Molinaseca is one of my favourite bits- so beautiful! Best wishes..

My knee was much better by the time I got there but I still wrote of the "hell walk (from Riego de Ambros) to Molinaseca" at the time. I'm sure it is beautiful for those with strong knees, though.

 

[annakappa]

Thanks everyone for responding. You’ve made me rethink the Meseta. This will be my first Camino and I suppose I mistakenly thought that the Meseta was one of the hardest sections physically. But sounds like it might be a good section for me. I’m thinking of taking the bourricot shuttle from SJPP halfway to Roncesvalles, which would leave me 12k. I think with my knee brace and poles this might be manageable. Then short sections to Pamplona.

Thanks everyone for responding. You’ve made me rethink the Meseta. This will be my first Camino and I suppose I mistakenly thought that the Meseta was one of the hardest sections physically. But sounds like it might be a good section for me.
I’m thinking of taking the bourricot shuttle from SJPP halfway to Roncesvalles, which would leave me 12k. I think with my knee brace and poles this might be manageable. Then short sections to Pamplona.

its the downhill part of hilly terrain that wracks havoc with your knees. These sections have been mentioned by several members to you. Check them out and whenever possible try to avoid them.

 

[Canche]

Hi everyone, I will set out on my Camino journey next week, but a knee injury has forced me to reconsider my plans. I have shortened my daily distances from St Jean to Burgos and then I have a few days in Santo Domingo de Silos. I had originally planned to walk the Meseta , but I am now considering leaving that section for another time (while I would love to walk it, the Camino is already teaching me to listen to my body).
I am seeking advice about a place to stay for about 10-14 days somewhere between Burgos and Leon or Astorga. I could happily use this time to work on a writing project. I would also be happy to volunteer somewhere for a couple of weeks. (Incidentally, the knee injury is not insignificant - three meniscal tears, a separated lateral ligament and lateral and posterior fluid collections).
I would really value any advice you have. Thanks

Skip it. It’s awful. Boring and depressing

 

[Marianjhart]

Hi everyone, I will set out on my Camino journey next week, but a knee injury has forced me to reconsider my plans. I have shortened my daily distances from St Jean to Burgos and then I have a few days in Santo Domingo de Silos. I had originally planned to walk the Meseta , but I am now considering leaving that section for another time (while I would love to walk it, the Camino is already teaching me to listen to my body).
I am seeking advice about a place to stay for about 10-14 days somewhere between Burgos and Leon or Astorga. I could happily use this time to work on a writing project. I would also be happy to volunteer somewhere for a couple of weeks. (Incidentally, the knee injury is not insignificant - three meniscal tears, a separated lateral ligament and lateral and posterior fluid collections).
I would really value any advice you have. Thanks

Hi everyone, I will set out on my Camino journey next week, but a knee injury has forced me to reconsider my plans. I have shortened my daily distances from St Jean to Burgos and then I have a few days in Santo Domingo de Silos. I had originally planned to walk the Meseta , but I am now considering leaving that section for another time (while I would love to walk it, the Camino is already teaching me to listen to my body).
I am seeking advice about a place to stay for about 10-14 days somewhere between Burgos and Leon or Astorga. I could happily use this time to work on a writing project. I would also be happy to volunteer somewhere for a couple of weeks. (Incidentally, the knee injury is not insignificant - three meniscal tears, a separated lateral ligament and lateral and posterior fluid collections).
I would really value any advice you have. Thanks

On an alternate route not far from Astorga is the Flores Del Camino bed and breakfast which is very beautiful and affordable and run by the couple that also run the albergue in town. They are kind and fed us wonderful food and take their hospitality to pilgrims so very seriously. I very much considered returning there to spend a week after I finished my camino. They are artists and the town is like a little artists colony. I think it would be perfect for you. https://www.booking.com/hotel/es/fl...eep_landing=1&sb_price_type=total&type=total&

 

[VNwalking]

I regret that autocorrect strikes again. That should have read *Astorga and *albergue.

Welcome to the auto-correct misspelling club, @Marianjhart. Fortunately there is an edit function, which I use all the time when I post and then notice a mistake. You'll see a button on the bottom left of your post called 'edit,' and then all you have to do is to make the changes you need to make and press save.

Flores Del Camino bed and breakfast

Last year, there was a thread here from a peregrina who had lost her things through theft who ended up there, and they restored her pilgrimage by love and art. It sounds like a special place.

 

[Marianjhart]

Welcome to the auto-correct misspelling club, @Marianjhart. Fortunately there is an edit function, which I use all the time when I post and then notice a mistake. You'll see a button on the bottom left of your post called 'edit,' and then all you have to do is to make the changes you need to make and press save.


Last year, there was a thread here from a peregrina who had lost her things through theft who ended up there, and they restored her pilgrimage by love and art. It sounds like a special place.

THANK YOU!!

 

[VNwalking]

You are most welcmoe welcome!

 

[Hilarious]

Hi everyone, I will set out on my Camino journey next week, but a knee injury has forced me to reconsider my plans. I have shortened my daily distances from St Jean to Burgos and then I have a few days in Santo Domingo de Silos. I had originally planned to walk the Meseta , but I am now considering leaving that section for another time (while I would love to walk it, the Camino is already teaching me to listen to my body).
I am seeking advice about a place to stay for about 10-14 days somewhere between Burgos and Leon or Astorga. I could happily use this time to work on a writing project. I would also be happy to volunteer somewhere for a couple of weeks. (Incidentally, the knee injury is not insignificant - three meniscal tears, a separated lateral ligament and lateral and posterior fluid collections).
I would really value any advice you have. Thanks

So sorry to hear about your injury Mary. Listening to your body is definitely the best thing to do. Can’t give you advice about places to stay as I haven’t walked myself yet. Sending out positive thoughts and energy to you. The meseta will be waiting for you another time. Buen Camino!

 

[JudyJane]

Hi and thanks Mike! I’m actually still at home and under specialist orthopaedic care, planning on leaving next week. I’m really reluctant to let go of that first week as I’m doing it with my son - just for one week. I’ve waited so long to do it. My doctor supports my decision but advises me to be guided by pain. Which I will do. But I have to try. Then I’ll rest it for a while . Thank you for your thoughts

That first day walking will be the hardest!!
It may be the end of your walk, if you have health problems.

 

[Joziane]

Hi everyone, I will set out on my Camino journey next week, but a knee injury has forced me to reconsider my plans. I have shortened my daily distances from St Jean to Burgos and then I have a few days in Santo Domingo de Silos. I had originally planned to walk the Meseta , but I am now considering leaving that section for another time (while I would love to walk it, the Camino is already teaching me to listen to my body).
I am seeking advice about a place to stay for about 10-14 days somewhere between Burgos and Leon or Astorga. I could happily use this time to work on a writing project. I would also be happy to volunteer somewhere for a couple of weeks. (Incidentally, the knee injury is not insignificant - three meniscal tears, a separated lateral ligament and lateral and posterior fluid collections).
I would really value any advice you have. Thanks

HI Mary,
I had 2 meniscal tears, a fissure on the patella and a floating bone chip before my camino at 59yrs. of age. I understand your dilemma. The pain dictates. Where is it now? Have you been training? The backpack would be best transported if you do decide to do the walk. Less weight on the joints, on everything. A day pack was what I counted on till I got to my regular pack each day. The meseta was the easy part ( for me). But really test the knee at home on slight hills and see how it manages those. Strengthening my quad muscles doing squats and a stationary bike really saved me, before my trip. Having walking sticks was a saving grace during the walk. Also, Spain has a wonderful cream called Voltadol that I used every 12hrs. when the pain got really bad. And yes, rested an extra day in Burgos, HAD to. The knee and your fervor will dictate. Walking your pace and no one elses, finding your rythm is most important. Did I do the whole Camino Frances? yes. Celebrated my 60th in Sahugan ! Buen Camino and only you can decide whether it is today that you take this trip or later. All the very best in your decision. It is not an easy one. My thoughts are with you. Josie

 

[MarkyD]

Hi everyone, I will set out on my Camino journey next week, but a knee injury has forced me to reconsider my plans. I have shortened my daily distances from St Jean to Burgos and then I have a few days in Santo Domingo de Silos. I had originally planned to walk the Meseta , but I am now considering leaving that section for another time (while I would love to walk it, the Camino is already teaching me to listen to my body).
I am seeking advice about a place to stay for about 10-14 days somewhere between Burgos and Leon or Astorga. I could happily use this time to work on a writing project. I would also be happy to volunteer somewhere for a couple of weeks. (Incidentally, the knee injury is not insignificant - three meniscal tears, a separated lateral ligament and lateral and posterior fluid collections).
I would really value any advice you have. Thanks

Hi Mary, here are a few photos taken this month on La Meseta:

 

[Anniesantiago]

Last Camino group trip, I had a lovely lady who couldn't walk 30 feet! (Yes, I TOLD everyone they must be able to walk 20k, but I guess she didn't think that was important!)

Anyway... she literally bussed and taxid the entire route and would meet us at the end of the day at our lodging. This isn't a bad option for you, maybe - you'd get to see the missed sections - maybe walk a portion of them - and most albergues these days will allow you to stay if you've taken a bus or taxi.

Just a thought.

 

[alhartman]

This really does not seem to be about the meseta; it is about conditioning and health.
Listen to your body.
My companion first camino was college roommate who had old meniscus injury from bicycle accident; it started leaking on the downside of Col Lepoeder; had an emergency outpatient drain in Pamplona hospital; had to hitch, bus, taxi shadow me on camino until about Ponferada where he started alternate days; then could walk painfully from Tricastela. His injury and overdoing on camino also triggered knee surgery a few years later.

 

[alexwalker]

Last Camino group trip, I had a lovely lady who couldn't walk 30 feet! (Yes, I TOLD everyone they must be able to walk 20k, but I guess she didn't think that was important!)

Anyway... she literally bussed and taxid the entire route and would meet us at the end of the day at our lodging. This isn't a bad option for you, maybe - you'd get to see the missed sections - maybe walk a portion of them - and most albergues these days will allow you to stay if you've taken a bus or taxi.

Just a thought.

To be even more uplifting: All PRIVATE albergues/hostals don't care at all how you got there. Book in advance a day ahead. You have gotten alot of good advice here.

Buen Camino!
Ultreya!

 

[gerip]

Hi and thanks Mike! I’m actually still at home and under specialist orthopaedic care, planning on leaving next week. I’m really reluctant to let go of that first week as I’m doing it with my son - just for one week. I’ve waited so long to do it. My doctor supports my decision but advises me to be guided by pain. Which I will do. But I have to try. Then I’ll rest it for a while . Thank you for your thoughts

So your orthopaedist hasn’t discharged you as of yet?

 

[mary_mh]

Noo! Don't do that, get your knee better, then go and do the whole thing, that's my advice. Placebo to Molinaseca is one of my favourite bits- so beautiful! Best wishes..

That’s what I’ve decided Marigold

 

[mary_mh]

Hi Everyone, firstly THANK YOU so much for the advice, suggestions, care and support. Your comments have been so helpful and will continue to be. I’ve decided to postpone my Camino. It has already taught me about facing my disappointments and expectations! My knee is still acute and needs to repair and heal and I need to build up the supporting and stabilising muscles. This is not going to be quick, so I have to accept that my body is not ready, even though my heart is. I know I can bus and taxi stages, but I’d prefer to wait and walk what I can. I really appreciate all your advice! Thanks so much and Buen Camino to all. I’ll see you on the path in a year or two

 

[Tincatinker]

Buen camino @mary_mh. Whenever it comes to be. Santiago isn't going anywhere. He'll be waiting. Santo Domingo will keep your road until you are ready to walk it.

Others have said it in various ways but I will say this: The Camino does not start in St Jean pied de la Porte. Nor does it start anywhere else but in your heart and on the little piece of ground from which you take your first step. You can start in Trondheim or Sarria or even from the foot of the steps in the Praza Obradoiro.

Mend that knee. Take a deep breath and a light pack and make your pilgrimage. Avoid anyone who tells you what the rules are (including me ).

 

[Hilarious]

Hi Everyone, firstly THANK YOU so much for the advice, suggestions, care and support. Your comments have been so helpful and will continue to be. I’ve decided to postpone my Camino. It has already taught me about facing my disappointments and expectations! My knee is still acute and needs to repair and heal and I need to build up the supporting and stabilising muscles. This is not going to be quick, so I have to accept that my body is not ready, even though my heart is. I know I can bus and taxi stages, but I’d prefer to wait and walk what I can. I really appreciate all your advice! Thanks so much and Buen Camino to all. I’ll see you on the path in a year or two

You are so courageous Mary making this hard but necessary decision! When I was a runner (jogger), I had to postpone my first marathon (three stress fractures in my femur). Once the disappointment subsided I was glad I made that decision. Your Camino is waiting for you! Positive thoughts and wishes for a complete recovery!

 

[gerip]

You are so courageous Mary making this hard but necessary decision! When I was a runner (jogger), I had to postpone my first marathon (three stress fractures in my femur). Once the disappointment subsided I was glad I made that decision. Your Camino is waiting for you! Positive thoughts and wishes for a complete recovery!

<<sigh of relief>> Seven years ago I'd planned to cycle the Camino, once I'd recovered from my second knee replacement. But I never regained the range of motion in that knee, so last autumn, I began to walk instead. It was the exactly the mode and the time that I was meant to go. Do the physio, go to the gym and get that knee strong, it'll make the experience all the more amazing when you do get there.❤

 

[Devereaux]

Congratulations on your very wise and courageous decision, Mary.
You chose wisely!
The Camino will be ready when you are.
When you do take that first step, you will do so knowing this is your time.
You will rejoice and be joy filled!

 

[Bala]

Hi, @mary_mh , It sounds like you've made a wise decision to wait until you knee is healed. Smart move! However, I just want to give you a little reassurance on another point you mentioned.

I’m in my 60’s and have this sense of urgency that I’ll have to try and let go of it.

I can totally relate to that, as I'm in my late 60s. However, one thing I've learned is that when it comes to the Camino, age really is just a number.

If you haven't read the thread, "Over 70 and Still Walking the Camino" by all means, pull it up. Those people make us 60-somethings look like a bunch of youngsters.

I was in my early 60s when I first started seriously considering the Camino. I figured I'd better get out there and do it, because, after all, time was marching on. I had this self-imposed deadline of completing it before I hit the magic age of 65.

Well, life had other plans for me.

I first set foot on the Camino (in St. Jean) at age 64, finally reaching Santiago last year at age 66, after dividing the journey into three segments.

I plan to go back next year, age 68, to walk straight through SJPP to Santiago. My husband, 70, will be joining me. Give your knee all the time it needs to heal. Then head out and start walking. Buen Camino, whenever that day may be.

 

[mary_mh]

Hi Everyone, I am writing this from Pamplona to give you an update - because you have all been so kind and helpful to share your thoughts and advice.
My son walked SJPP to Roncesvalles and I caught the bus. We had a great night in Roncesvalles - attended the pilgrim's mass, blessing and experienced a wonderful choral concert after the mass. Met some lovely people - pilgrims and locals. The next day, my son walked from Roncesvalles to Larrosoaña and then taxied to meet me in Pamplona (I caught the bus again).
In a couple of days my son has to leave Spain to return to work. I am heading to Granada and then I'll stay a few weeks in the Los Alpujarra where I will work on strengthening my knee and doing whatever mountain walking my body is happy with.
Then I will return to Pamplona and walk on from there - I will go slowly and carefully and will take the bus or taxi if I need to. I will walk as far as I can within the time I have available. Then next time, I will pick up from wherever I have to finish.
I feel content with this plan. I had some thought to do just the last 100k, but my heart is telling me to just continue my slow Camino journey across Spain.
Buen Camino!!

 

[Hilarious]

Hi Everyone, I am writing this from Pamplona to give you an update - because you have all been so kind and helpful to share your thoughts and advice.
My son walked SJPP to Roncesvalles and I caught the bus. We had a great night in Roncesvalles - attended the pilgrim's mass, blessing and experienced a wonderful choral concert after the mass. Met some lovely people - pilgrims and locals. The next day, my son walked from Roncesvalles to Larrosoaña and then taxied to meet me in Pamplona (I caught the bus again).
In a couple of days my son has to leave Spain to return to work. I am heading to Granada and then I'll stay a few weeks in the Los Alpujarra where I will work on strengthening my knee and doing whatever mountain walking my body is happy with.
Then I will return to Pamplona and walk on from there - I will go slowly and carefully and will take the bus or taxi if I need to. I will walk as far as I can within the time I have available. Then next time, I will pick up from wherever I have to finish.
I feel content with this plan. I had some thought to do just the last 100k, but my heart is telling me to just continue my slow Camino journey across Spain.
Buen Camino!!

Thank you so much for the update Mary! You saw the glass was half full and went with it! So special sharing this time with your son. Continue enjoying your trip - I know you will return to the Camino!

 

[David Tallan]

Thanks for the update. Following your heart is often the best course when planning a Camino.

 

[TSchulen]

Thanks for the update. Please resist the urge to over do it! You know you'll be back...

Buen Camino!

 

[alexwalker]

Hi Everyone, I am writing this from Pamplona to give you an update - because you have all been so kind and helpful to share your thoughts and advice.
My son walked SJPP to Roncesvalles and I caught the bus. We had a great night in Roncesvalles - attended the pilgrim's mass, blessing and experienced a wonderful choral concert after the mass. Met some lovely people - pilgrims and locals. The next day, my son walked from Roncesvalles to Larrosoaña and then taxied to meet me in Pamplona (I caught the bus again).
In a couple of days my son has to leave Spain to return to work. I am heading to Granada and then I'll stay a few weeks in the Los Alpujarra where I will work on strengthening my knee and doing whatever mountain walking my body is happy with.
Then I will return to Pamplona and walk on from there - I will go slowly and carefully and will take the bus or taxi if I need to. I will walk as far as I can within the time I have available. Then next time, I will pick up from wherever I have to finish.
I feel content with this plan. I had some thought to do just the last 100k, but my heart is telling me to just continue my slow Camino journey across Spain.
Buen Camino!!

Very happy for you! IMHO, I think you have the perfect setup for yourself. AND: You are there!!! In Spain! On the Camino! You are living it while us here are only reading it...

After next Easter, I will be back for my n'th Camino, from Pamplona and all the Way, at age 66.

 

[2020Pilgrim-hopeful]

I am so sorry to hear about your knee! I wish you the best in your recovery. Sorry I cannot help with any ideas.

 

[VNwalking]

I feel content with this plan. I had some thought to do just the last 100k, but my heart is telling me to just continue my slow Camino journey across Spain.

Super plan, Mary. Thanks for keeping us in the loop.
I hope you're healing well and are enjoying the journey. Buen camino, peregrina!

 

[mary_mh]

Fantastic Alex!

Very happy for you! IMHO, I think you have the perfect setup for yourself. AND: You are there!!! In Spain! On the Camino! You are living it while us here are only reading it...

After next Easter, I will be back for my n'th Camino, from Pamplona and all the Way, at age 66.

 

[mary_mh]

Hi Everyone, I’m back with another update writing live from the Camino!!
I have spent the past month in the Sierra Nevadas as I mentioned earlier, doing a different kind of retreat. This gave me a wonderful opportunity to get stronger in all sorts of ways. My knee improved to a degree where I was able to comfortably walk distances of about 10k provided the terrain wasn’t too stony and uneven, and I could zigzag downhill using my poles.
I decided to walk the last stage of the Camino - it just felt right. I commenced at Samos Monasterio and I’m walking around 10k a day and I’m at Melide this evening. I’m absolutely thrilled and grateful to be able to undertake this journey. It’s humbling, uplifting, joyful, challenging - my knee is holding up pretty well and I’m treating it kindly .
I’m already planning next year’s Camino! After all the comments about the Meseta, I may plan that stage next!
Thanks again for all your support and advice - I’m very appreciative

 

[Bala]

Such good news! You sound so happy and enthusiastic. All the best to you as your journey continues.

 

[Margaret Butterworth]

I’m thrilled to hear your story! This is mine: in May this year (aged 74), I set off walking from Fromista. Just after Astorga my knee gave out. It was a torn meniscus and I was in great pain. I had planned to do the Invierno, but had to return home instead. Medical advice is that this torn meniscus will not heal. So, six months on and I’ve just done a wonderful tour of Portugal - by train (and seniors travel half price!) The message is: even if you have to abandon Camino dreams, there are alternatives.

 

[Kumi]

Hi and thanks for your reply. I hesitated about posting about this issue as in my reading of many other posts I see judgemental replies - and I hoped that people would consider my question in the spirit it was intended. I am not planning to be a tourist or to have a holiday -norhaveisuggested that the Meseta is boring. I am genuinely aiming to balance an injury with a pilgrimage. So don’t be ‘sad’ at what you perceive about my intentions please.
But thank you for your other suggestions and best wishes.

You need to take it easy, I have ripped my meniscus in both knees, you need to stay off your legs... Wishing you the best...