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great idea on the mat! yes!I'm still just a youngster (60) but I've done a few longer days at times, on the Primitivo in July last year I had no issues walking into a municipal at 5:30/6.00 p.m. and getting a bed. I quite like walking later because there are far less (if any) people on the trail.
I appreciate the Frances might be different, others will need to chip in on that. But from everything I've read throughout the last two years whilst there seems to be a panic about bed availablity at times, more often than not somebody pipes up from a municipal to say "plenty of beds here". Because those panicking are those wanting to book (which you have clearly indicated you do not wish to do).
You have one major advantage next year in that Easter is not until the 20th of April. So you will have the bottle neck (Roncesvalles - Pamplona) behind you if you start early April before that 'wave' hit's.
You don't mention the daily distances you hope to make, just that you are very slow. Short days would give you more time to explore any churches that may be open.
You mention resting before continuing, whilst you could of course just sit in the cafe, it might be worth considering carrying some kind of mat to lie on. It doesn't have to be a full-on, full length sleep mat, just something to make yourself a little more comfortable. Nothing quite like a quick '20 winks' in the shade after a meal. (On the handful of times I've done it I've set the timer on my phone for 30 minutes - that way I don't oversleep but awake refreshed).
Buen Camino!
distances would be as necessary- last time was 15-25K more or lessI'm still just a youngster (60) but I've done a few longer days at times, on the Primitivo in July last year I had no issues walking into a municipal at 5:30/6.00 p.m. and getting a bed. I quite like walking later because there are far less (if any) people on the trail.
I appreciate the Frances might be different, others will need to chip in on that. But from everything I've read throughout the last two years whilst there seems to be a panic about bed availablity at times, more often than not somebody pipes up from a municipal to say "plenty of beds here". Because those panicking are those wanting to book (which you have clearly indicated you do not wish to do).
You have one major advantage next year in that Easter is not until the 20th of April. So you will have the bottle neck (Roncesvalles - Pamplona) behind you if you start early April before that 'wave' hit's.
You don't mention the daily distances you hope to make, just that you are very slow. Short days would give you more time to explore any churches that may be open.
You mention resting before continuing, whilst you could of course just sit in the cafe, it might be worth considering carrying some kind of mat to lie on. It doesn't have to be a full-on, full length sleep mat, just something to make yourself a little more comfortable. Nothing quite like a quick '20 winks' in the shade after a meal. (On the handful of times I've done it I've set the timer on my phone for 30 minutes - that way I don't oversleep but awake refreshed).
Buen Camino!
I was often a late arrival. I walked the frances April 4 to May 15, 2024 starting in SJPP. For various reasons, I am slow and usually got to my destination late afternoon. I made reservations usually, but often not. It worked except I was almost always in a top bunk.otherwise, any comments re pros and cons from those who have followed this extended sort of later-in-the-day sort of walking schedule? i don’t make reservations anywhere, plan to stay in municipals or donativos.
This is what I do. I love long leisurely lunches, just taking my time. The afternoons are great as there are very few others walking then. But as mentioned above, you will probably get a top bunk every time, being one of the last to arrive.Next time, i’m thinking i’d like to walk until lunch time, have the bigger pilgrim meal of the day at lunch and then rest before siesta time, then walk throughout the afternoon/early evening to find a spot an an albergue later in the day- closer to maybe 5 or 6. that way i could walk at my slow pace and maybe cover the same distances without pushing myself so hard. yes i know it will be hotter in the afternoon.
I am a very slow walker. Painfully slow. I start early and finish late. Yes I like to take long lunches, a bit of a ‘bar crawl’ in the afternoon/early evening, and walk through into the evening. I rarely stop to rest, more to eat and drink. I normally get to my destination at about 7pm. The Camino is a totally different beast from about 3pm. Nice and quiet. Guess a bit like comparing rush hour to non rush hour.i did the French way a couple of years ago from Roncesvalles, right after covid. i’m elderly and very slow. i would like to return in 2025, to do it again while my body may still let me. last time, i did what i guess was the “usual” routine of walking until about 2pm then checking into an albergue to do laundry, check out the town etc, followed by a late pilgrim meal. i really had to push myself to do this but in retrospect it now seems unnecessary!
Next time, i’m thinking i’d like to walk until lunch time, have the bigger pilgrim meal of the day at lunch and then rest before siesta time, then walk throughout the afternoon/early evening to find a spot an an albergue later in the day- closer to maybe 5 or 6. that way i could walk at my slow pace and maybe cover the same distances without pushing myself so hard. yes i know it will be hotter in the afternoon.
otherwise, any comments re pros and cons from those who have followed this extended sort of later-in-the-day sort of walking schedule? i don’t make reservations anywhere, plan to stay in municipals or donativos.
last time, i walked from April to June. I’m thinking i’d like to start during the first week of April this next time. just curious about your experiences doing it that way - frankly i’ll probably just go ahead and see what that’s like, but it would be interesting to hear what anyone has to say about it! i’m hoping more churches might be open now and would like to spend more time in them etc…
Here are my thoughts, for what it is worth.i did the French way a couple of years ago from Roncesvalles, right after covid. i’m elderly and very slow. i would like to return in 2025, to do it again while my body may still let me. last time, i did what i guess was the “usual” routine of walking until about 2pm then checking into an albergue to do laundry, check out the town etc, followed by a late pilgrim meal. i really had to push myself to do this but in retrospect it now seems unnecessary!
Next time, i’m thinking i’d like to walk until lunch time, have the bigger pilgrim meal of the day at lunch and then rest before siesta time, then walk throughout the afternoon/early evening to find a spot an an albergue later in the day- closer to maybe 5 or 6. that way i could walk at my slow pace and maybe cover the same distances without pushing myself so hard. yes i know it will be hotter in the afternoon.
otherwise, any comments re pros and cons from those who have followed this extended sort of later-in-the-day sort of walking schedule? i don’t make reservations anywhere, plan to stay in municipals or donativos.
last time, i walked from April to June. I’m thinking i’d like to start during the first week of April this next time. just curious about your experiences doing it that way - frankly i’ll probably just go ahead and see what that’s like, but it would be interesting to hear what anyone has to say about it! i’m hoping more churches might be open now and would like to spend more time in them etc…
My thought exactly. How about shorter and slower days?One thing that hasn’t been mentioned is getting your washing dry given you wouldn’t do it until 6pm or later.
. Last time I did laundry just about every day, which I also now feel is unnecessary. Next time I'm planning to just wear a wool top that doesnt smell after long use. It's easy enough to rinse out a pair of underwear as needed! I'm thinking of trying to go 4-5 days and then just use a laundromat in a bigger town! I'm also going to go from a 28 L pack down to an 18 L pack, We shall see!One thing that hasn’t been mentioned is getting your washing dry given you wouldn’t do it until 6pm or later. But some Albergues do have dryers so maybe you could use those?
I can see the appeal of what you propose. There’s no harm in trying it, as you say.
This question may work here or not, mods I can start a new thread, not what is your and other folks definition of slow, ballpark in KM per hour.. Last time I did laundry just about every day, which I also now feel is unnecessary. Next time I'm planning to just wear a wool top that doesnt smell after long use. It's easy enough to rinse out a pair of underwear as needed! I'm thinking of trying to go 4-5 days and then just use a laundromat in a bigger town! I'm also going to go from a 28 L pack down to an 18 L pack, We shall see!
btw I am slow because I am 5 feet tall and have short legs and even if I walk at the same pace as everyone else, starting side-by-side, they end up years ahead of me!
Well, I hope I can do it and will report from the way how things go with the new modus operandii! Thank you so much for all your input!
Thx - agreed 4km was my thought too.4km per hour or so i think
yes! so what did you do and how did it turn out?I see absolutely no point in getting to an albergue by 2pm so I can get my shirt and knickers dry before I leave next morning. I don’t rush to the next albergue so I can do my laundry.
everything is flexible - i was just trying to learn of other’s experience doing it the way i proposed. i will most certainly adapt to the circumstances!Hello and I will agree with statements about you walk your Camino on your own pace and however you like it
I will reiterate the "con" points brought up here because I actually thought of exactly the same thing
- 1. Arriving a albergue late to find there are no beds. All the arguments "against" THAT are valid but... life is what happens to you when you're busy making other plans. Even if probability is 10% nobody can guarantee you that you won.t fall into that 10%
- 2. The top bunk. Any time I showed up in albergue past 5PM it was a given that a top bunk I had. Pushing 63 while on Frances (I turned 63 on Camino Finisterre) I was not looking forward climbing up and down, esp. if a trip was necessary in the middle of the night.
- 3. Laundry - while I agree that one should not "run" to do their laundry the fact remains that we rely on the nature to do our drying. Those couple of days when somehow my clothes were still damp in the morning were not truly the jolly days walking. Not all albergues have dryers, if anything more don't than do plus now you are increasing your overall budget.
- 4. And of course lets not forget the weather. If it happens to rain for 20 days straight with no sun in sight - I dont see it any fun walking wet, trying to take siesta ...where?... under the shady tree? (I take it you are not sleeping in the bar on the table or at the counter nor are you getting a room anywhere for the 1-2 hour 'nap').
I by nature am an early bird. I always got up early. if I ever wake up at 10:00am I will have a horrible headache so it just does not work for me.
Hence I WILL (and did) start walking around 6-6:30am and will take my 1.5-2 hours break with meal included and arrive at my albergue-du-nuit by 2:00-2:30PM. I can leisurely take my shower, do any laundry I desire and have a siesta until I am ready to go and eat (say 7pm). I'm well rested, relaxed, clean and happy Pilgrim (and don't have a top bunk)
But.... if you are convinced to do it your way - by all means I hope it works for you and do wish you a Buen Camino !
Except for the big lunch and long nap, your plan is similar to my habits. I have done CF 4x starting late April to 3rd week May. I generally start walking 0630-0730 because I like daylight. I generally stop 1500-1900; just depends how I feel, vibes of the town, etc. Always found a bed. In fact this last May between Sarria and Santiago, I walked into albergues late in the day 3x in a row with no reservations to get whole dorm rooms to myself--so much for crowdsi did the French way a couple of years ago from Roncesvalles, right after covid. i’m elderly and very slow. i would like to return in 2025, to do it again while my body may still let me. last time, i did what i guess was the “usual” routine of walking until about 2pm then checking into an albergue to do laundry, check out the town etc, followed by a late pilgrim meal. i really had to push myself to do this but in retrospect it now seems unnecessary!
Next time, i’m thinking i’d like to walk until lunch time, have the bigger pilgrim meal of the day at lunch and then rest before siesta time, then walk throughout the afternoon/early evening to find a spot an an albergue later in the day- closer to maybe 5 or 6. that way i could walk at my slow pace and maybe cover the same distances without pushing myself so hard. yes i know it will be hotter in the afternoon.
otherwise, any comments re pros and cons from those who have followed this extended sort of later-in-the-day sort of walking schedule? i don’t make reservations anywhere, plan to stay in municipals or donativos.
last time, i walked from April to June. I’m thinking i’d like to start during the first week of April this next time. just curious about your experiences doing it that way - frankly i’ll probably just go ahead and see what that’s like, but it would be interesting to hear what anyone has to say about it! i’m hoping more churches might be open now and would like to spend more time in them etc…
Hi just a question about the Municipals and Donativos. I'm walking next year mid April from Sarria, I'll be 75 and it will be the biggest hike I've ever done so not planning on 'rushing'. I've booked half my trip but having trouble with a few places so are there Municipals and Donativos everywhere or only in certain places. I have looked at Google maps which has been pretty good but there are some places that show no accommodation at all. Thanks in advancei did the French way a couple of years ago from Roncesvalles, right after covid. i’m elderly and very slow. i would like to return in 2025, to do it again while my body may still let me. last time, i did what i guess was the “usual” routine of walking until about 2pm then checking into an albergue to do laundry, check out the town etc, followed by a late pilgrim meal. i really had to push myself to do this but in retrospect it now seems unnecessary!
Next time, i’m thinking i’d like to walk until lunch time, have the bigger pilgrim meal of the day at lunch and then rest before siesta time, then walk throughout the afternoon/early evening to find a spot an an albergue later in the day- closer to maybe 5 or 6. that way i could walk at my slow pace and maybe cover the same distances without pushing myself so hard. yes i know it will be hotter in the afternoon.
otherwise, any comments re pros and cons from those who have followed this extended sort of later-in-the-day sort of walking schedule? i don’t make reservations anywhere, plan to stay in municipals or donativos.
last time, i walked from April to June. I’m thinking i’d like to start during the first week of April this next time. just curious about your experiences doing it that way - frankly i’ll probably just go ahead and see what that’s like, but it would be interesting to hear what anyone has to say about it! i’m hoping more churches might be open now and would like to spend more time in them etc…
Beware WisePilgrim. They said many munipals and other albergues "Appeared" closed, but many were not!!Hello and welcome to Forum
Look at Gronze.com - they have the most up-to-date info
It is in Spanish but easily translated via GoogleTranslate
You can also use one of the Apps - BuenCmino, WisePilgrim, CaminoNinja - the information is there as well
At 75 I would respectfully suggest to book as many as you can and as such Municipals and Donativos dont take reservations. any other you may find - contact them direct perhaps 2-3 out via email or WhatsApp (even if say booking.com has "no availability)
Good Luck and Buen Camino
Thank you and at 75 while for I totally agree.Hello and welcome to Forum
Look at Gronze.com - they have the most up-to-date info
It is in Spanish but easily translated via GoogleTranslate
You can also use one of the Apps - BuenCmino, WisePilgrim, CaminoNinja - the information is there as well
At 75 I would respectfully suggest to book as many as you can and as such Municipals and Donativos dont take reservations. any other you may find - contact them direct perhaps 2-3 out via email or WhatsApp (even if say booking.com has "no availability)
Good Luck and Buen Camino
Agreed, and many will not answer the phone until 14 or 1500Which is why it pays to contact directly anyways
Try Castromaior only 1.2km after Gonzar. I stayed at Casa Maruja very nice quaint place w private roomsThank you and at 75 while for I totally agree.I have booked most but Portomarin, Gonza and Ligonda don't take bookings so fingers crossed for those. I'll try those websites for luggage transfers, thanks again.
Regarding accommodations, latter in the day, beds may be more difficult to find in certain areas. Availability is limited due to bottlenecking, depending upon the season, holidays (April 20th is Easter), including holy week and Easter week, town festivals and whether there are groups are walking at the same time.We stayed in Opedrouzo last night. At about 730 a pilgrim walked up and there was one bed left. We we told there were available beds in other places in town. Lots of pilgrims this night. But I think if you just need a bed somewhere you can be super flexible. We walked through some villages a couple of weeks ago that had few resources but I still feel like on the Frances you’re okay. The night we walked into Roncesvalles, I heard it filled up. We stayed in the hotel so weren’t affected. BTW, nice hotel. Recommend!
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