November/December Camino

[JTD]

Hello everyone. I will be arriving in SJPP on 8th November with a friend and we intend on setting off the following day (via the Valcarlos route, of course!). We know about the Aprinca list of accommodation and we are trying to pack for all weather eventualities (probably over cautious if anything!) But I am just wondering what other pilgrims experiences have been at this time of year? Pilgrim numbers, weather, accommodation availability - anything! Whatever you think may be relevant that we might not have considered. For example, we have not booked accommodation in SJPP. I'm hoping that with fewer pilgrims we should find a bed in the Municipal albergue. Is this wise? Perhaps I still need to book something. What about evening footwear? My sandals might be ok for in the albergue but if its raining maybe I would be better with a pair of trainers to go out for a meal etc? I could just put my walking shoes back on to go out in the evening, but might be inconvenient if I am trying to dry them out? I'm over thinking it, aren't I?! Very interested to hear from people who have walked November/December Camino Frances.

 

[mspath]

JTD,

In past years, 2007, 2008, 2009, and 2010, when I walked the CF late autumn /winter accommodation started to close mid October but some place was always open. There were no summer crowds and beds/bunks were available. I usually slept in albergues, often the sole pilgrim, but also in back rooms of an open bar/restaurant.

Walking off-season during those past years I rarely saw more than 20 pilgrims at one time. There usually was a strong sense of camaraderie amongst those of us on the route especially during storms or difficult stretches.

Difficult CF stretches after storms could be; the Valcarlos route up to Roncesvalles (as you know the Napoleon route is closed from November to April), across the Montes de Oca from Villafranca, Najera to Santo Domingo de la Calzada, Monte Irago and, of course, to and from O Cebreiro. You must be prepared for snow in the mountains.

Many who go at this time wear and carry lightweight but warm layers which can easily be added or removed. Here are a kit list and tips from the viewpoint of a woman who often walked in late autumn and winter.

Do carry simple non perishable "extra" food. Spain is filled with delicious stops, but all are not always affordable nor open; the one food shop in town may be closed on the same day as the only resto/bar. No joke.

On past winter caminos especially during storms when I stopped in small and remote albergues far from any supply source novice pilgrims often staggered in wet, cold and hungry. They may have had the best gear but carried no food!

Of course I shared; a chunk of cheese and wedge of sausage with a few dried abricots can be ambrosia in such a setting. A smile returned by a new friend over a simple meal is one of the Camino's many joys.

Happy planning and Buen camino.

 

[JTD]

mspath,

Thank you for your reply. The lack of crowds, and therefore, no bed race, sounds perfect. I wonder how numbers will compare now to what you experienced. We will be sure to carry food!

 

[J Willhaus]

In winter I wear gortex mid height boots. They keep my feet warmer. (Summers I wear trail runners non-gortex.) Carry some balls of wadded newspaper (or get a couple of grocery store flyers if no newspaper) and stuff them in your shoes tightly and any moisture will be absorbed overnight. You can use them several days before replacing.

I wear closed toe crocs in the winter. They look like clogs and can be worn around the albergue or out to supper with socks. They are bulky so I have carried them on the outside of my pack on straps at times.

Be prepared for weather. I have an Altus Poncho, a synthetic puffer (North Face Thermoball), light merino gloves, and a head band (turtle fur brand). Some people complain about sweating inside the poncho, but I have not had that issue in the winter.

 

[JTD]

J Willhaus,

I am currently wearing Salomon gortex walking shoes. They've managed to keep my feet dry on my training hikes (currently walking 10km a day with backpack), despite all the rain we have had here.

So far as rain gear goes, I usually use a poncho in the summer, but for this camino have desired to go for lightweight rain jacket and over trousers. So far so good, however I may still carry a poncho incase of extremely heavy downpours to go over my backpack. The rain cover alone seems to collect some water in the bottom after a while walking in the rain!

 

[J Willhaus]

Maybe weigh the rain cover, jacket, trousers and compare to the Altus poncho. I don't like that I have to stop, take off my pack, and then put on the jacket, trousers and rain cover while it is raining. The poncho can be deployed from its pouch in my water bottle pocket and donned over my pack and self with a single "bull fighter cape" like movement. I can tuck the sleeves under my pack straps for the intermittant rain and it still covers my pack.

 

[krystianw]

You might want to check out the CaminoWeather report for Nov 9th:

November weather forecast for the Camino de Santiago Francés

Get a personal daily weather forecast for the Camino de Santiago Francés for the exact dates you're planning to go. Or browse to pick the best time of year.

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[Gelariv]

Hello everyone. I will be arriving in SJPP on 8th November with a friend and we intend on setting off the following day (via the Valcarlos route, of course!). We know about the Aprinca list of accommodation and we are trying to pack for all weather eventualities (probably over cautious if anything!) But I am just wondering what other pilgrims experiences have been at this time of year? Pilgrim numbers, weather, accommodation availability - anything! Whatever you think may be relevant that we might not have considered. For example, we have not booked accommodation in SJPP. I'm hoping that with fewer pilgrims we should find a bed in the Municipal albergue. Is this wise? Perhaps I still need to book something. What about evening footwear? My sandals might be ok for in the albergue but if its raining maybe I would be better with a pair of trainers to go out for a meal etc? I could just put my walking shoes back on to go out in the evening, but might be inconvenient if I am trying to dry them out? I'm over thinking it, aren't I?! Very interested to hear from people who have walked November/December Camino Frances.

If you can give me any advice from your experience (arrived in Santiago yet?) that would be so appreciated, I'm startin gon January 22nd and I'm having most of the questions that you asked Was it ok at the municipal albergue in Saint-Jean-Pied-de-Port finally? I was thinking of going with tat option too. Hope you had a great camino!