And now to the backpack..

[Astipad]

I have read I think every single thread here but I am afraid that the backpacks that I have access to here in Europe are not that common in the UK and North America and vice versa, so here I am, asking for advice since I did not find much about them in the forum.

I have my packlist ready, without water, snacks and the backpack I am at around 4,5 kilos which is much less than the magical 10% (and I will leave it at that, no more details about my chubby figure ). It all fits in my 30l fastpack but this backpack has no structure, very good for my short hikes with my dogs in the mountain but no way it is going on the camino with me, my back would kill me. I have identified 3 serious contenders so far, but for lack of a decent shop in Malaga apart from Decathlon (and none of their bags suited me), I am getting the packs shipped to me and will then decide which one to keep. I hate that I have to do that, but it is what it is. So here the 3 packs:

1. Rab Muon 40. Has arrived. Fits me fine (there really is a lot of possibilities in term of fitting with this bag so that’s good), but the padding of the shoulder straps, and in a certain mesure of the hip belt, rubs the inside of my arms in a manner that makes me think it could induce chafing quite quickly when wearing a short arm T. It is not always rubbing, I have to pull all straps well and then it does not anymore, but I am a tad skeptical about how that will work in the long run.

2. Montane Trailblazer 44. Same style as the Rab Muon 40, has not arrived yet. 44l is too much but if it is like the Rab pulling all the straps would make it “small” enough, and I would be able to use it for other trips where I need more room.

3. Gregory Facet 35, ordered directly on the Gregory website where it is on sale right now, waiting for it to arrive. I have heard very very good stuff about Gregory and the offer was so very tempting.

I don’t aim at it being super lightweight, but I want it to sit properly and make walking with my pack for hours in the heat not a torture. I enjoy the vest style of the Rab because I am used to my fastpack, but the fabric they used for the padding is a bit rough (or am I being too sensitive?). I did not like any of the Forclaz I tried on in Decathlon. I would love to have easy access to my bottles, either on the front or in the side pocket in a horizontal position. And last but not least, it has to fit in the cursed “Ryanair Carry-on torture cage”. For the time being I left Deuter and Osprey out of the game because my credit card does not like me right now, and hopefully one of the first 3 will be “the one”. BUT… if you have any suggestions…

 

[Juspassinthru]

I have read I think every single thread here but I am afraid that the backpacks that I have access to here in Europe are not that common in the UK and North America and vice versa, so here I am, asking for advice since I did not find much about them in the forum.

I have my packlist ready, without water, snacks and the backpack I am at around 4,5 kilos which is much less than the magical 10% (and I will leave it at that, no more details about my chubby figure ). It all fits in my 30l fastpack but this backpack has no structure, very good for my short hikes with my dogs in the mountain but no way it is going on the camino with me, my back would kill me. I have identified 3 serious contenders so far, but for lack of a decent shop in Malaga apart from Decathlon (and none of their bags suited me), I am getting the packs shipped to me and will then decide which one to keep. I hate that I have to do that, but it is what it is. So here the 3 packs:

1. Rab Muon 40. Has arrived. Fits me fine (there really is a lot of possibilities in term of fitting with this bag so that’s good), but the padding of the shoulder straps, and in a certain mesure of the hip belt, rubs the inside of my arms in a manner that makes me think it could induce chafing quite quickly when wearing a short arm T. It is not always rubbing, I have to pull all straps well and then it does not anymore, but I am a tad skeptical about how that will work in the long run.

2. Montane Trailblazer 44. Same style as the Rab Muon 40, has not arrived yet. 44l is too much but if it is like the Rab pulling all the straps would make it “small” enough, and I would be able to use it for other trips where I need more room.

3. Gregory Facet 35, ordered directly on the Gregory website where it is on sale right now, waiting for it to arrive. I have heard very very good stuff about Gregory and the offer was so very tempting.

I don’t aim at it being super lightweight, but I want it to sit properly and make walking with my pack for hours in the heat not a torture. I enjoy the vest style of the Rab because I am used to my fastpack, but the fabric they used for the padding is a bit rough (or am I being too sensitive?). I did not like any of the Forclaz I tried on in Decathlon. I would love to have easy access to my bottles, either on the front or in the side pocket in a horizontal position. And last but not least, it has to fit in the cursed “Ryanair Carry-on torture cage”. For the time being I left Deuter and Osprey out of the game because my credit card does not like me right now, and hopefully one of the first 3 will be “the one”. BUT… if you have any suggestions…

Ah yes, boots and backpacks, your best or worst friends.

Find the pack (loaded) that fits you best because you will be wearing it for hours and days. I use Osprey because they (I have 4) have multiple adjustments and they fit me well. Don’t worry about the brand, go for fit/comfort.

For me, I’d then consider volume (do you intend to take a sleeping bag?). Next, access, can I get to my water bottle in the side pockets by myself?

Lots of things to consider, unfortunately there is no one size fits all when it comes to packs. Try as many as possible and ask lots of questions.

Good luck.

 

[Anhalter]

Admittedly, i am about 1kg lighter than you are, but i have been using frameless packs for all my caminos so far. Packed correctly, they work really well and i think you might consider them with your stated weight.
I have had trouble finding one that checks my boxes, ended up with a Bonfus Iterus and added the hipbelt and some padding on the inside.
Hoewever, i heard also good things about the trailblazer. Might be worth looking on the 30l version as well, 44l seems excessive for 4,5kg of stuff.

 

[David]

Tricky buying a pack without trying it on (but you know that). Decathlon packs are well made but rather heavy so, yes, steer clear.

you say that you are chubby and as you also know, this can be a problem with fitting a pack without it chafing. To me the priority there is one with a really good hip belt so that you can wear it properly, all the weight on the pelvic bones so that there is no weight at all at the shoulders, allowing you that one or two finger width gap under the shoulder straps - those straps are only there to 'snug' the backpack, not too tight, just to stop it wobbling.

Sorry about your finances as the only brand I know that seems to be always a great fit for all body shapes and types of people is Osprey, specifically their Talon 33 or 36 - astoundingly comfortable. But Coo! they are indeed expensive - they seem to have doubled in price in the last year or so.

I don't know the packs on your list so I do wish you good luck and hope that one of them is perfect for you.

If you have still have time it could be worth looking on ebay as often great packs come up used and cheap - this is Ebay Spain - https://www.ebay.es/

 

[Peterexpatkiwi]

Don’t worry about the brand, go for fit/comfort.

%. If everything fits in, and you can afford it, nothing else matters.

Whilst I personally have a Dueter, I tried at least half a dozen other brands and simply chose that because it was the most comfortable for me.

 

[Seger]

I carried a women's Osprey Sirrus 36 last year from St. Jean. I went directly to a store and had it fitted. I measured for a small which is the length where it should fall on your hip area. Very comfortable. Certain brands carry a women's fit pack.

 

[markie6]

Comfort above all else. If it's a one time trip or if you think you might become addicted ( like many here ) then it might be worth a little more or less expenditure

 

[MichelleElynHogan]

Minimum pack, minimum load. Some 40 L packs, even 35 L packs can weigh 3 lb or more. My preference is to carry no more than 10 lb plus food and water. The last problem you wish to have is a pack that is too heavy. It can not only add so much more work to your every day, but can be responsible for doing physical damage, like I have experienced.

Comfort is priority #2, weight being the first priority. But, once these two have been accomplished, a smaller pack means a sn=maller load, and hopefully, a happier journey.

Another strategy is to take / budget extra money, pack as light as possible and buy what you need as you need it along the way. The initial pack list for this is a rain poncho, one extra pair of socks, toothpaste and a toothbrush.

 

[t2andreo]

Generally, a pack designed for a woman will have a shorter torso length. As others have suggested, load the pack(s) to your planned walking weight. Walk around the house or the neighborhood, and see which one can be better adjusted to your frame.

A proper fitting in a shop will likely see a staff person loading your rucksack with sand bags. I use bags of kitty litter at home - or at least I did while we had a cat. Now, I pre-pack the actual stuff I plan to use. I use an airline baggage scale to weigh the loaded rucksack, and adjust accordingly.

A properly fitted pack should fit like a glove, conforming to your body. It should not poke you anywhere. If fitted properly, you should not even be aware that you are wearing the pack - especially after your first week - 10 days on Camino.

The more adjustment points a pack has, the better fit you can attain.

Consider going to You Tube and searching for "how to fit a woman's rucksack." Many manufacturers have videos posted there. Gregory should be among them.

Hope this helps.

Tom

 

[AchimBerlin]

I have read I think every single thread here but I am afraid that the backpacks that I have access to here in Europe are not that common in the UK and North America and vice versa, so here I am, asking for advice since I did not find much about them in the forum.

I have my packlist ready, without water, snacks and the backpack I am at around 4,5 kilos which is much less than the magical 10% (and I will leave it at that, no more details about my chubby figure ). It all fits in my 30l fastpack but this backpack has no structure, very good for my short hikes with my dogs in the mountain but no way it is going on the camino with me, my back would kill me. I have identified 3 serious contenders so far, but for lack of a decent shop in Malaga apart from Decathlon (and none of their bags suited me), I am getting the packs shipped to me and will then decide which one to keep. I hate that I have to do that, but it is what it is. So here the 3 packs:

1. Rab Muon 40. Has arrived. Fits me fine (there really is a lot of possibilities in term of fitting with this bag so that’s good), but the padding of the shoulder straps, and in a certain mesure of the hip belt, rubs the inside of my arms in a manner that makes me think it could induce chafing quite quickly when wearing a short arm T. It is not always rubbing, I have to pull all straps well and then it does not anymore, but I am a tad skeptical about how that will work in the long run.

2. Montane Trailblazer 44. Same style as the Rab Muon 40, has not arrived yet. 44l is too much but if it is like the Rab pulling all the straps would make it “small” enough, and I would be able to use it for other trips where I need more room.

3. Gregory Facet 35, ordered directly on the Gregory website where it is on sale right now, waiting for it to arrive. I have heard very very good stuff about Gregory and the offer was so very tempting.

I don’t aim at it being super lightweight, but I want it to sit properly and make walking with my pack for hours in the heat not a torture. I enjoy the vest style of the Rab because I am used to my fastpack, but the fabric they used for the padding is a bit rough (or am I being too sensitive?). I did not like any of the Forclaz I tried on in Decathlon. I would love to have easy access to my bottles, either on the front or in the side pocket in a horizontal position. And last but not least, it has to fit in the cursed “Ryanair Carry-on torture cage”. For the time being I left Deuter and Osprey out of the game because my credit card does not like me right now, and hopefully one of the first 3 will be “the one”. BUT… if you have any suggestions…

I'v put my trust in Osprey backpacks, especially the lightweight Kestrel-series 38 and 48 depending on the tour. Great padding on the shoulders, hipbelt-pockets for small parts. The womens version is the Kyte 38. You might try this one.

 

[MTtoCamino]

Everything mentioned above I agree with, yet I still would reuse my osprey 48L Kestral. Just because I use it here in Montana in the backcountry.
I would recommend you take each fully loaded for a good 3-4 hour hike to see what pack fits the best. That way you can adjust as needed. You won’t get any of them adjusted & loaded properly until you wear them for a couple days. The load needs to be balanced heavier items closest to your back & close to top. Just experiment . Buen Camino
Keith

 

[CamillaO]

If your credit card decides to be accommodatlng again, i can heartily recommend Osprey Tempest 30. I'm shortish and on the chubby side, and it fits me really well, very adjustable.

 

[Tickbush]

I just finished the Camino Frances with my Gregory Deva 36. It fits perfectly and I don't really notice it once I put it on. I could have gone with a 30, but like the extra space. I lined it with a 36 l dry bag, which I occasionally ship ahead. I also have a larger Gregory for mountain backpacking.

 

[Juspassinthru]

Generally, a pack designed for a woman will have a shorter torso length. As others have suggested, load the pack(s) to your planned walking weight. Walk around the house or the neighborhood, and see which one can be better adjusted to your frame.

A proper fitting in a shop will likely see a staff person loading your rucksack with sand bags. I use bags of kitty litter at home - or at least I did while we had a cat. Now, I pre-pack the actual stuff I plan to use. I use an airline baggage scale to weigh the loaded rucksack, and adjust accordingly.

A properly fitted pack should fit like a glove, conforming to your body. It should not poke you anywhere. If fitted properly, you should not even be aware that you are wearing the pack - especially after your first week - 10 days on Camino.

The more adjustment points a pack has, the better fit you can attain.

Consider going to You Tube and searching for "how to fit a woman's rucksack." Many manufacturers have videos posted there. Gregory should be among them.

Hope this helps.

Tom

I want to amplify what @t2andreo said, a properly fitted pack should really be part of you. It shouldn’t sway when you walk. It shouldn’t bounce up and down. If you spun around quickly, it should move with you without delay. 60% of the weight should be on your hips (editorial opinion). Whatever pack you choose, learn how to make adjustments with the straps and on mine, where the shoulder straps rest. Can seem daunting or fun for some of us but time invested now will pay dividends later.

 

[Astipad]

Thanks a lot for every single answer in this thread, very helpful .

I am now awaiting the missing 2 packs, the Rab is definitely going back, it feels not right somehow. Should the Montane or the Gregory not fit, I will then move on and order a Deuter and an Osprey after sending the 2 others back. I will keep you posted! I so wish there was a specialized shop in the area…

 

[David]

Thanks a lot for every single answer in this thread, very helpful .

I am now awaiting the missing 2 packs, the Rab is definitely going back, it feels not right somehow. Should the Montane or the Gregory not fit, I will then move on and order a Deuter and an Osprey after sending the 2 others back. I will keep you posted! I so wish there was a specialized shop in the area…

Have you tried the Salomon Trailblazer 30 at 55.96€ in the ALS Sportshop on at 72, Carretera de Cádiz?

 

[Astipad]

Have you tried the Salomon Trailblazer 30 at 55.96€ in the ALS Sportshop on at 72, Carretera de Cádiz?

I own the Salomon trailblazer 20, it’s one of my fastpacks. Very good for trailrunning and such, but no structure at all. ALS is my go to for my shoes (Hoka speedgoat and Hoka Challenger) and my trailrunning gear, but it has almost nothing for backpacking as on the Camino. It’s a tiny shop.

Also, the Trailblazer from Salomon is much more a vest than a backpack, has very poor aeration, so you get a super sweaty back very quickly, and is uncomfortable over a jacket.

 

[SureFtWayEli]

I have read I think every single thread here but I am afraid that the backpacks that I have access to here in Europe are not that common in the UK and North America and vice versa, so here I am, asking for advice since I did not find much about them in the forum.

I have my packlist ready, without water, snacks and the backpack I am at around 4,5 kilos which is much less than the magical 10% (and I will leave it at that, no more details about my chubby figure ). It all fits in my 30l fastpack but this backpack has no structure, very good for my short hikes with my dogs in the mountain but no way it is going on the camino with me, my back would kill me. I have identified 3 serious contenders so far, but for lack of a decent shop in Malaga apart from Decathlon (and none of their bags suited me), I am getting the packs shipped to me and will then decide which one to keep. I hate that I have to do that, but it is what it is. So here the 3 packs:

1. Rab Muon 40. Has arrived. Fits me fine (there really is a lot of possibilities in term of fitting with this bag so that’s good), but the padding of the shoulder straps, and in a certain mesure of the hip belt, rubs the inside of my arms in a manner that makes me think it could induce chafing quite quickly when wearing a short arm T. It is not always rubbing, I have to pull all straps well and then it does not anymore, but I am a tad skeptical about how that will work in the long run.

2. Montane Trailblazer 44. Same style as the Rab Muon 40, has not arrived yet. 44l is too much but if it is like the Rab pulling all the straps would make it “small” enough, and I would be able to use it for other trips where I need more room.

3. Gregory Facet 35, ordered directly on the Gregory website where it is on sale right now, waiting for it to arrive. I have heard very very good stuff about Gregory and the offer was so very tempting.

I don’t aim at it being super lightweight, but I want it to sit properly and make walking with my pack for hours in the heat not a torture. I enjoy the vest style of the Rab because I am used to my fastpack, but the fabric they used for the padding is a bit rough (or am I being too sensitive?). I did not like any of the Forclaz I tried on in Decathlon. I would love to have easy access to my bottles, either on the front or in the side pocket in a horizontal position. And last but not least, it has to fit in the cursed “Ryanair Carry-on torture cage”. For the time being I left Deuter and Osprey out of the game because my credit card does not like me right now, and hopefully one of the first 3 will be “the one”. BUT… if you have any suggestions…

I know it is hard to believe, but I read & saw pictures of a Pilgrim’s pack list that he has used for three Caminos. The first time I did it with an Osprey Ultralight. Second time with a REI Thermolite. Third time, except Covid cancelled trip, was going to be even smaller with an Osprey Tempest 20. I really like the last one. However, wanting to go even smaller to put less weight on my feet which are aging rapidly & to have the coolness of nothing on my back, I ordered the Mountainsmith Tour that I mentioned at the beginning, downsized to bare essentials, which I find very doable, & hope to be back on the Camino within a couple of years. It has two sleeves for water bottles, but I found there was always a fountain to refill when I needed to. The second water bottle I keep separated for that day when the free wine is available, not that I fully fill so there is enough for everyone, but so I have water to drink down the trail. I take 2 Platypus 1 liter/34 oz. that flatten & are rollable for easy carry when empty, conserving space. If you can find the person’s forum thread who has used this pack 3 times, watch his video. You will be shocked at how much he carries. The other thing I like about this pack is it has a day strap so it is easy carry-on. Makes a great day purse, too.

 

[Tandem Graham]

I would suggest Berghaus as another brand to consider. They produce women specific designs, which my partner declares to be very comfortable! They have a bit of structure, yet are not over heavy.

 

[LouLou]

I've completed 7ish caminos including multiple full Francés, and VDLP, all with Aarn packs. Light weight, form fitting hip/waist strap, and unique design where the pack moves with you... I add the balance pockets to the front which help with weight distribution. They have long and short back lengths. If you're ordering in, there is a stockist in Norway... might be worth a look. I have three different models for different scenarios. My go to is this one... https://www.backpackinglight.com.au...KsdWZGXnrSoy1m5jCIAX59sR8NdpamohoCb_MQAvD_BwE

 

[trecile]

If you can find the person’s forum thread who has used this pack 3 times, watch his video.

Is the video?

Here's the thread about it: https://www.caminodesantiago.me/com...alight-camino-de-santiago-packing-list.86112/

 

[Philtration]

I did my first camino using an Osprey Talon 44. It has webbing on the back to allow airflow to your back to keep you cooler. To me, having the center of gravity an inch or so off my back made me always feel like I was overbalancing. Second camino I got an REI Trail 40. It rides directly against my back and is much more comfortable for me. Another big plus for the REI pack was that the entire back zips open for easy access to everything inside. With top-loading packs it seem like the thing you need is always at the bottom of the pack, making you either unload or dig through everything to get to it. Just what has worked for me, everyone is different.

 

[HighlandsHiker]

You probably couldn't go wrong with the Gregory. For the last 6 years I've used a Gregory Amber 34L and it's been a great pack with plenty of padding at shoulders and hips for long-distance hikes on the Caminos and in Scotland. The main thing is to spend all the time you need beforehand "getting to know" your pack - adjusting and readjusting until it "feels right", finding all the nooks and crannies. Even out on the trail you may need to adjust hip belts and shoulder belts and chest strap to feel comfortable according to what you have added and discarded from your pack contents. I become attached to backpacks (no pun intended). After a bit, it feels odd to be without it. And a good thing to do is to start a few weeks before leaving and walk with a loaded pack (canned goods with miscellaneous clothes for approximate weight) so you get knee/foot issues addressed before you're actually out there. Have a wonderful time on the Portugues!

 

[MichaelMySon]

hi. I have a osprey 40L fairview .fitted at blacks .it so comfortable and is just right for me .with all my gear in it weighs 6.8 kg .with water so not bad .it has a good frame keeping it off any pressure points that can cause injury ..

 

[Astipad]

Sooo.. The Rab is back in its box. I have no idea when the Gregory will arrive because UPS has no idea either (not Gregory’s fault, it’s entirely on UPS who collected the bag but can’t seem to remember where it put it. UPS is clearly a man ). The Montane is not even out of the warehouse yet. And I managed to find an Osprey Talón Velocity 30l for 120€ yesterday evening on the web and that is supposedly already on its way to me.

If none of these fit, I’ll probably stop the credit card hemorrhage and will try to sort out DIY solutions to ensure my actual 30l fast pack get some reinforcement in the back and a better hip belt.

Stay tuned

 

[Astipad]

Is the video?

Here's the thread about it: https://www.caminodesantiago.me/com...alight-camino-de-santiago-packing-list.86112/

There is no way that would work for me…Plus, the guy travels with his wife and she carries the “let’s share” stuff in her backpack I bet. (Been there, done that).

 

[Purple Backpack]

For years, I’ve been an Osprey fan. But my last May/June CF, I switched to a frameless Gossamer Gear Kumo and loved it. Max weight, including water, is around 5.5 kg for me, for comfort. I also loved that I could take the sit pad out of the back and use it for breaks. With the sit pad out, I also tossed the pack in the washing machine when it got really muddy or dusty, dried by morning. To each his own, but this one worked great for me.

 

[Astipad]

For years, I’ve been an Osprey fan. But my last May/June CF, I switched to a frameless Gossamer Gear Kumo and loved it. Max weight, including water, is around 5.5 kg for me, for comfort. I also loved that I could take the sit pad out of the back and use it for breaks. With the sit pad out, I also tossed the pack in the washing machine when it got really muddy or dusty, dried by morning. To each his own, but this one worked great for me.

That’s the one I wanted, but it is super difficult and very expensive to get here in Europe. And while searching for it, I started wondering whether the sit pad would be enough for a long walk. I hike in the mountain but 3 hours at the most, and my pack never weighs more than 3 kilos including water for me and the dogs. I never until now spent a whole day with a pack on my back. I did some train hikes last week mixing trail and road with my planned load for the Caminoand after 2 hours and a half, my back started being painful thus the whole “which backpack” thing.

 

[SureFtWayEli]

Is the video?

Here's the thread about it: https://www.caminodesantiago.me/com...alight-camino-de-santiago-packing-list.86112/

Thank you! I was also wanting to share with a friend!

 

[Astipad]

Last Minute info: The Rab is back in the game, the Osprey Velocity is out. My daughter’s boyfriend is over for the weekend and he is a climber and a thruhiker, so he had a look at both packs and helped me fit them better. The Rab is the winner between both. No chafing anymore. Thank God I did not send it back yet. The Osprey is not comfortable at all, the vest part does not fit well on me.
Still waiting for the Gregory and the Montane.

 

[Camino Chrissy]

I take 2 Platypus 1 liter/34 oz. that flatten & are rollable for easy carry when empty, conserving space.

For myself, I have never been fond of platypus roll-up water bags because I do not like the sharp, sealed edges. I use two smooth sided Smartwater bottles in the two side pouches of my pack and drink out of both simultaneously which keeps the weight evenly distributed.

 

[Juspassinthru]

I have read I think every single thread here but I am afraid that the backpacks that I have access to here in Europe are not that common in the UK and North America and vice versa, so here I am, asking for advice since I did not find much about them in the forum.

I have my packlist ready, without water, snacks and the backpack I am at around 4,5 kilos which is much less than the magical 10% (and I will leave it at that, no more details about my chubby figure ). It all fits in my 30l fastpack but this backpack has no structure, very good for my short hikes with my dogs in the mountain but no way it is going on the camino with me, my back would kill me. I have identified 3 serious contenders so far, but for lack of a decent shop in Malaga apart from Decathlon (and none of their bags suited me), I am getting the packs shipped to me and will then decide which one to keep. I hate that I have to do that, but it is what it is. So here the 3 packs:

1. Rab Muon 40. Has arrived. Fits me fine (there really is a lot of possibilities in term of fitting with this bag so that’s good), but the padding of the shoulder straps, and in a certain mesure of the hip belt, rubs the inside of my arms in a manner that makes me think it could induce chafing quite quickly when wearing a short arm T. It is not always rubbing, I have to pull all straps well and then it does not anymore, but I am a tad skeptical about how that will work in the long run.

2. Montane Trailblazer 44. Same style as the Rab Muon 40, has not arrived yet. 44l is too much but if it is like the Rab pulling all the straps would make it “small” enough, and I would be able to use it for other trips where I need more room.

3. Gregory Facet 35, ordered directly on the Gregory website where it is on sale right now, waiting for it to arrive. I have heard very very good stuff about Gregory and the offer was so very tempting.

I don’t aim at it being super lightweight, but I want it to sit properly and make walking with my pack for hours in the heat not a torture. I enjoy the vest style of the Rab because I am used to my fastpack, but the fabric they used for the padding is a bit rough (or am I being too sensitive?). I did not like any of the Forclaz I tried on in Decathlon. I would love to have easy access to my bottles, either on the front or in the side pocket in a horizontal position. And last but not least, it has to fit in the cursed “Ryanair Carry-on torture cage”. For the time being I left Deuter and Osprey out of the game because my credit card does not like me right now, and hopefully one of the first 3 will be “the one”. BUT… if you have any suggestions…

Getting suggestions, ideas or opinions from Forum members is almost impossible

 

[SureFtWayEli]

For myself, I have never been fond of platypus roll-up water bags because I do not like the sharp, sealed edges. I use two smooth sided Smartwater bottles in the two side pouches of my pack and drink out of both simultaneously which keeps the weight evenly distributed.

Thanks for the recommendation. Will look into Smartwater. Good thinking, weight balance!….Checked & they look tall & slim. If pack pocket not very deep, any problem with bottle top heavy?

 

[Camino Chrissy]

Thanks for the recommendation. Will look into Smartwater. Good thinking, weight balance!….Checked & they look tall & slim. If pack pocket not very deep, any problem with bottle top heavy?

Not too heavy on my Osprey Sirrus. Although the water bottle holders are not extra deep, they do have an added cinch strap if needed, but I don't need to use it.

 

[SureFtWayEli]

OK, good to know. Thanks! I’ll give it a try.

 

[MTtoCamino]

That’s great you got some help, nothing better than a thru hiker. I am sure you have noticed the lighter gear pushes pricing higher. In my opinion for the Camino the priority for gear should be:

Shoes
Pack
Rain gear
Water container (don’t ever allow it to run dry)
Sleeping bag/or blanket depending on time of year.

Have fun!

 

[Billy Buell]

I have read I think every single thread here but I am afraid that the backpacks that I have access to here in Europe are not that common in the UK and North America and vice versa, so here I am, asking for advice since I did not find much about them in the forum.

I have my packlist ready, without water, snacks and the backpack I am at around 4,5 kilos which is much less than the magical 10% (and I will leave it at that, no more details about my chubby figure ). It all fits in my 30l fastpack but this backpack has no structure, very good for my short hikes with my dogs in the mountain but no way it is going on the camino with me, my back would kill me. I have identified 3 serious contenders so far, but for lack of a decent shop in Malaga apart from Decathlon (and none of their bags suited me), I am getting the packs shipped to me and will then decide which one to keep. I hate that I have to do that, but it is what it is. So here the 3 packs:

1. Rab Muon 40. Has arrived. Fits me fine (there really is a lot of possibilities in term of fitting with this bag so that’s good), but the padding of the shoulder straps, and in a certain mesure of the hip belt, rubs the inside of my arms in a manner that makes me think it could induce chafing quite quickly when wearing a short arm T. It is not always rubbing, I have to pull all straps well and then it does not anymore, but I am a tad skeptical about how that will work in the long run.

2. Montane Trailblazer 44. Same style as the Rab Muon 40, has not arrived yet. 44l is too much but if it is like the Rab pulling all the straps would make it “small” enough, and I would be able to use it for other trips where I need more room.

3. Gregory Facet 35, ordered directly on the Gregory website where it is on sale right now, waiting for it to arrive. I have heard very very good stuff about Gregory and the offer was so very tempting.

I don’t aim at it being super lightweight, but I want it to sit properly and make walking with my pack for hours in the heat not a torture. I enjoy the vest style of the Rab because I am used to my fastpack, but the fabric they used for the padding is a bit rough (or am I being too sensitive?). I did not like any of the Forclaz I tried on in Decathlon. I would love to have easy access to my bottles, either on the front or in the side pocket in a horizontal position. And last but not least, it has to fit in the cursed “Ryanair Carry-on torture cage”. For the time being I left Deuter and Osprey out of the game because my credit card does not like me right now, and hopefully one of the first 3 will be “the one”. BUT… if you have any suggestions…

I am using my 3rd backpack now. Each has fitted MD well and been satisfactory. My concern is that few brands have reflective markings for early morning walks along the highways. While shopping I couldn't find this feature and it makes me wonder why not.

 

[LouiseEdin]

I have read I think every single thread here but I am afraid that the backpacks that I have access to here in Europe are not that common in the UK and North America and vice versa, so here I am, asking for advice since I did not find much about them in the forum.

I have my packlist ready, without water, snacks and the backpack I am at around 4,5 kilos which is much less than the magical 10% (and I will leave it at that, no more details about my chubby figure ). It all fits in my 30l fastpack but this backpack has no structure, very good for my short hikes with my dogs in the mountain but no way it is going on the camino with me, my back would kill me. I have identified 3 serious contenders so far, but for lack of a decent shop in Malaga apart from Decathlon (and none of their bags suited me), I am getting the packs shipped to me and will then decide which one to keep. I hate that I have to do that, but it is what it is. So here the 3 packs:

1. Rab Muon 40. Has arrived. Fits me fine (there really is a lot of possibilities in term of fitting with this bag so that’s good), but the padding of the shoulder straps, and in a certain mesure of the hip belt, rubs the inside of my arms in a manner that makes me think it could induce chafing quite quickly when wearing a short arm T. It is not always rubbing, I have to pull all straps well and then it does not anymore, but I am a tad skeptical about how that will work in the long run.

2. Montane Trailblazer 44. Same style as the Rab Muon 40, has not arrived yet. 44l is too much but if it is like the Rab pulling all the straps would make it “small” enough, and I would be able to use it for other trips where I need more room.

3. Gregory Facet 35, ordered directly on the Gregory website where it is on sale right now, waiting for it to arrive. I have heard very very good stuff about Gregory and the offer was so very tempting.

I don’t aim at it being super lightweight, but I want it to sit properly and make walking with my pack for hours in the heat not a torture. I enjoy the vest style of the Rab because I am used to my fastpack, but the fabric they used for the padding is a bit rough (or am I being too sensitive?). I did not like any of the Forclaz I tried on in Decathlon. I would love to have easy access to my bottles, either on the front or in the side pocket in a horizontal position. And last but not least, it has to fit in the cursed “Ryanair Carry-on torture cage”. For the time being I left Deuter and Osprey out of the game because my credit card does not like me right now, and hopefully one of the first 3 will be “the one”. BUT… if you have any suggestions…

Osprey are so popular, suit me. You could get a 25k, with waist belt

 

[Getwood]

I was leaning towards using an Osprey Stratos 36 (so much so that I found one for a very good price on Amazon and bought it), but I went to a local store with a good rep and after some serious fitting time during which the Osprey was found to be a poor fit for me, the supervisor there got me into a Mystery Ranch 40L Coulee (Men's version). I tried the 30L, but it was extremely tight for my packlist (which is only 5.7kg but surprisingly bulky).

One of the things I like about the 40L Coulee is that it's completely waterproof and thus doesn't require a raincover. It's also a hybrid loader, with a nifty top/front/bottom access system that's the smartest I've ever seen. Rapid access yet very strong when secured.

Prior to this, I'd never heard of Mystery Ranch. Decent price, too!

 

[Astipad]

Quick update:

1. the Montane 44 has arrived, cautiously thinking it fits so well.. It’s capacity is much bigger than what I need but with the straps, nothing moves. There is a 32l version, but it is more expensive than the 44 (but.. why ???) so not sure it is worth the hassle. It fits slightly better than the Rab, but the Rab seems more solid. Opinions?
2. Dear Daughter, who was never outdoorsy until Boyfriend of said Daughter made an appearance , wants the Osprey, so it is not going back after all, just changing ownership.
3. We (because Dear Daughter is now very much involved in the decision making and even wants to go camping ) are now waiting for the Gregory to arrive, whenever UPS think they could enjoy a drive in the countryside.
4. 2 backpacks have to go back. Neither Dear Son nor Dear Husband are interested in getting new backpacks, so we are not opening a “Backpack Rescue Shelter”. I have been clearly told that I cannot do with backpacks what I have successfully done with dogs.

Also, the Montane does not weigh 1090g as stated on the Montane page, mine weighs 710g empty. I am now double checking to see if any parts are missing but so far, everything seems to be there.

 

[Anhalter]

It fits slightly better than the Rab, but the Rab seems more solid. Opinions?

I walked my first camino with a Gossamergear Murmur. Their lightest, most fragile pack. You could litterally see the contents thru the fabric. I handled it with great care, always watching were i put it down and after the full Camino Frances it looked a bit dirty but had no wear and tear whatsoever. So i would never chose the backpack because it looks more solid. At least not for a camino.

 

[Astipad]

I walked my first camino with a Gossamergear Murmur. Their lightest, most fragile pack. You could litterally see the contents thru the fabric. I handled it with great care, always watching were i put it down and after the full Camino Frances it looked a bit dirty but had no wear and tear whatsoever. So i would never chose the backpack because it looks more solid. At least not for a camino.

Glaube Dir!

 

[Bill905]

Best of luck on your backpack search. Speaking from my experience, you might also want to consider a couple of adjuncts, such as a small waist pack for those common everyday items (tissues, phone, charger, etc.). You will soon appreciate it because you will not have to remove your backpack as frequently. Also, some type of water resistant pouch on a lanyard round your neck for your Credenciale, passport, credit cards, cash, etc. Buen Camino!

 

[Margaret Butterworth]

No-one has mentioned Aarn backpacks with their clever balance pockets. I wouldn't do the Camino with anything else!

 

[Astipad]

No-one has mentioned Aarn backpacks with their clever balance pockets. I wouldn't do the Camino with anything else!

Someone did I think, but they are extremely difficult to get here in the EU so that’s a no go for me.

 

[starrysky]

here’s a pack you might not have considered: the Arcteryx Aerios 18L. it’s pricey but is so lightweight, intelligently designed, comfortable - i’m in love with it. you can detach the hip belt which is just a strap to hook up a different one (i’m using the hyperlight mountain gear hip belt). last time i walked the camino i wore a deuter trail 28L, which was so wonderful and comfortable- perfect size with room to spare, but itself is heavy- over 2 lbs. so if you haven’t checked out this Arcteryx pack i highly recommend it! It also comes in a 30L version but at least for me that’s way too big. buen camino!

 

[RonBenfield]

Everything mentioned above I agree with, yet I still would reuse my osprey 48L Kestral. Just because I use it here in Montana in the backcountry.
I would recommend you take each fully loaded for a good 3-4 hour hike to see what pack fits the best. That way you can adjust as needed. You won’t get any of them adjusted & loaded properly until you wear them for a couple days. The load needs to be balanced heavier items closest to your back & close to top. Just experiment . Buen Camino
Keith

I have both an Osprey 48L and 38L Kestral. They each weigh as least a pound less than the new ones do. the 48L is now well over 4 pounds (according to the REI specs).

I'm going to try out the REI Flash Air, which weighs in at 32 oz (right at 2 pounds) for the large size. Can't really see a reason to carry an extra couple of pounds, though my 48L Kestral has been on lots of climbs and day trips.

 

[Astipad]

And to end my quest: the Gregory Facet 35, which I had to pick up, does not feel comfortable to me. For one thing, it is an XS and it is too short, and I think an S would be a tad better, but I won’t try to exchange it because other things bother me. The back is not adjustable, there is only one access to the pack (top loader), it’s clearly heavier than the Montane, and the chest strap is not comfortable for me at all. On the plus side, it has easy access to water bottles, the hip belt pockets are well sized and the pack includes a rain cover. But these pluses are not enough for me. I feel better with the Montane on my back and it is the one I am keeping. Thank you everyone for helping me .

 

[Astipad]

Final (?) twist…..With the Forclaz MT900 UL 45l (the women version) finally back in the Decathlon store near me, I couldn't resist trying it out. This is the bag I originally wanted but it was unavailable for so long (it is to be discontinued, a new version will be available in spring, but the prototype looks very different, is unisex and bigger) that I tought I would never be able to test it.

Bottom line: it's certainly heavier than the Montane Trailblazer 44 (the UL in the name of the Forclaz is a bit of a joke at 1.3kg), but it has three advantages for me:
1. The back is a suspended mesh system that seems to allow a very good ventilation.
2. The back panel is fully adaptable to the size of the torso, with no notches - it's a pull system that stops exactly where you want it to.
3. The abdominal belt is better padded than on the Montane and better suited to my dimensions, plus it has huge pockets in a fabric that does not chafe my arms (that’s just cherry on the cake).
I went back to the store again yesterday, this time with everything I was going to take with me, and tried out the filled pack again. I was able to adjust it well enough to feel like I was only carrying a minimal load, and even better I can transfer that load to my hips without any problems and feel very comfy. The pack moves with me, I can pick things on the floor without any sliding overhead.
From what I have heard/read, the MT900 UL is very comparable to the Osprey Exo/Eja for anyone who might be interested. I cannot confirm this, as I have not tried the Eja. I tried the Gregory Focal and it is not the same fit at all for me. The MT900 UL retails at 145€, I paid 135€ because I had points to redeem, and my tape measures its height at 58 cm. The Eja 38 is retailing at 165€ best deal right now here, I would try it if its height was not 70cm minimum, but that is just too high and has no chance of getting through as cabin luggage.

So the Forclaz came home yesterday with me. I can still send the Montane back, and might do so, although it’s a very good and light bag. I will be travelling to India in January so ideally, the bag I take for the Camino would also be my bag for India, but as the conditions will not be the same at all I need to think it over.

I will attach pics to this post later. Also: the Decathlon (or D4 as we say in France) sales employees in my shop are absolutely useless. I wish the reading of this forum was compulsory for them, they would learn so much !

 

[Astipad]

Let’s hope it’s my last post on this thread.. by now you must all think I am nuts. Which I probably am.

Before sending the Montane back, as I liked it very much, I decided to walk 5k on a treadmill with the Montane one day and 5k with the Forclaz the next. I sweat a bit more with the Montane, but it does feel so much lighter and it is comfortable. I also realized that I did not need to stop the Treadmill to get my bottles in and out on the Montane, while I can get them out but not in again with the Forclaz without taking the pack off. It was also easier to fine tune the fit of the Montane while walking.

So I brought the Forclaz back to the shop and I am keeping the Montane.

 

[1BreathAtATime]

Admittedly, i am about 1kg lighter than you are, but i have been using frameless packs for all my caminos so far. Packed correctly, they work really well and i think you might consider them with your stated weight.
I have had trouble finding one that checks my boxes, ended up with a Bonfus Iterus and added the hipbelt and some padding on the inside.
Hoewever, i heard also good things about the trailblazer. Might be worth looking on the 30l version as well, 44l seems excessive for 4,5kg of stuff.

Thanks, Anhalter. Any tips on how to pack a frameless/floppy pack? I leave soon and still between two packs. Neither is ideal, but the best I could find after months of searching. Osprey Hikelite 26 with frame, trampoline back, and thin strap for a belt, but the shoulder strap pushes against my neck and sometimes rubs on it :-| The other is REI Flash 22 where the shoulder straps are light and comfy, thin strap for a belt, but with no structure, more weight moves to my shoulders and it curves into my mid/low back. I'm using to carry 1.5 l water and a few extras (sandles, rain poncho, snacks, first aid, extra socks). Cheers, Kris

 

[1BreathAtATime]

one or two finger width gap under the shoulder straps

Hi David, I find when I have this (with Osprey Hikelite 26) that the pack sways a bit and rubs against my neck. Any suggestions? I'm currently stuffy rolled bandanas or washcloths under them to protect my neck. Thanks, Kris

 

[David]

Hi David, I find when I have this (with Osprey Hikelite 26) that the pack sways a bit and rubs against my neck. Any suggestions? I'm currently stuffy rolled bandanas or washcloths under them to protect my neck. Thanks, Kris

Ah, no really, that doesn't usually happen with the chest strap attached .. it all comes down to individual bodies and the only answer to that is to spend a day in three camping shops trying them all on! (loaded with stuff from the shelves.) Good luck.

 

[Astipad]

Ah, no really, that doesn't usually happen with the chest strap attached .. it all comes down to individual bodies and the only answer to that is to spend a day in three camping shops trying them all on! (loaded with stuff from the shelves.) Good luck.

This is so true… I walked yesterday 10k with the Montane packed with my Camino stuff and after 5k, my lower back was killing me..

Back to square one

 

[1BreathAtATime]

This is so true… I walked yesterday 10k with the Montane packed with my Camino stuff and after 5k, my lower back was killing me..

Back to square one

Back in March I had every intention of carrying my gear with my 10% weight max + water.... (my body weight is quite low). After months and probably 12+ hours added up of trying packs on at various places and even having a sweet conversation with a woman at Osprey and testing over 6 packs, I am using a baggage service to transport and still playing with finding even a day pack. I had no idea how unique my body was until this venture, but that's part of my Camino
I empathize with how frustrating this can be and truly wish you the best!

 

[Astipad]

Back in March I had every intention of carrying my gear with my 10% weight max + water.... (my body weight is quite low). After months and probably 12+ hours added up of trying packs on at various places and even having a sweet conversation with a woman at Osprey and testing over 6 packs, I am using a baggage service to transport and still playing with finding even a day pack. I had no idea how unique my body was until this venture, but that's part of my Camino
I empathize with how frustrating this can be and truly wish you the best!

I know!!! I fully agree. I am so glad I tried the Montane on a hike, imagine finding out it does not work after all on the Camino.. . I am a bit sad because I really love that pack but I now know I need a solid frame, ideally it should be a trampoline system as to 1. Not sweat like a pig and 2. Shift the weight to my hips while protecting my lower back, which, considering my morphology, seems to be a difficult task.
But I am not defeated, I can try a friend’s Osprey Sirrus 34l this afternoon, we shall see. She swears by it, but as we know, everyone is different so I will just try it on and see. She needs her bag so she cannot lend it to me for the Camino, so it’s just to test how it fits on a longer walk. Her’s is from 2020 though, should I like it, has there been any major changes in the new version? I think I’ll start a new thread addressing that if I like that bag.

 

[JustOneGuy]

The only way I know to stay within the 10% limit is this:

Tying a Giant Balloon to Your Backpack Is the Ultimate Ultralight Hack

Will the next generation of ultralighters be hiking with giant helium balloons clipped to their packs? The host of Failure Is an Option puts this technique to the test.

www.backpacker.com

 

[JustOneGuy]

Actually I know another, even more pleasant way to stay within 10 percent of my weight: eat a lot, but REALLY a lot, for a few weeks...

 

[Astipad]

Actually I know another, even more pleasant way to stay within 10 percent of my weight: eat a lot, but REALLY a lot, for a few weeks...

Worked really hard to lose 60+ lbs, and the Camino is my personal reward, so nope, not going to do that .

On a side note: I really really like the Sirrus 34. I just feel I could adjust the torso better, the one I tried has a scratch to adjust it, the new version has a different system so ordered that one, which should be here today or tomorrow, and also ordered a Jade 38 (wanted a 33 but none available) to compare and hopefully find at last MY backpack. I am getting nervous, I am leaving in a month…

 

[JustOneGuy]

it's amazing how sensitive some people can be. I am saying this with admiration and respect, believe me: my partner is the same... I think you are all descendants of the Princess on the Pea!

On the other hand, I put on a pair of shoes, a jacket and a backpack from 40 years ago and I barely feel the difference with today's, new, stuff.

I was definitively not born a tester...

 

[Astipad]

it's amazing how sensitive some people can be. I am saying this with admiration and respect, believe me: my partner is the same... I think you are all descendants of the Princess on the Pea!

On the other hand, I put on a pair of shoes, a jacket and a backpack from 40 years ago and I barely feel the difference with today's, new, stuff.

I was definitively not born a tester...

united princesses of the world

 

[Astipad]

it's amazing how sensitive some people can be. I am saying this with admiration and respect, believe me: my partner is the same... I think you are all descendants of the Princess on the Pea!

On the other hand, I put on a pair of shoes, a jacket and a backpack from 40 years ago and I barely feel the difference with today's, new, stuff.

I was definitively not born a tester...

and just to prove you wrong…..

The Sirrus 34 and the Jade 38 are here , they both fit. I will test a walk today with each one to decide which one to keep because they are very similar and both work well for my packing list.

If they both work well on the walk, I’ll keep the cheapest which is the Sirrus for me, 50€ difference is a lot.

 

[JustOneGuy]

I used my wife's brand new Sirrus 26 just last Sunday for a "test drive": no difference felt respect to my Stratos 44...

 

[Anhalter]

Thanks, Anhalter. Any tips on how to pack a frameless/floppy pack? I leave soon and still between two packs. Neither is ideal, but the best I could find after months of searching. Osprey Hikelite 26 with frame, trampoline back, and thin strap for a belt, but the shoulder strap pushes against my neck and sometimes rubs on it :-| The other is REI Flash 22 where the shoulder straps are light and comfy, thin strap for a belt, but with no structure, more weight moves to my shoulders and it curves into my mid/low back. I'm using to carry 1.5 l water and a few extras (sandles, rain poncho, snacks, first aid, extra socks). Cheers, Kris

Hey, sorry for the late reply.

It took me a bit to find out how to pack my backpack the best way. And to make matters worse, it may not be 100% applicable to how to pack YOUR pack the best.
That being said: Frameless packs usually carry best when they are packed tightly. Because this is what gives them the rigidity needed to transfer some of the weight down to the hips (i use a frameless pack with a hipbelt...). For organization i use a drybag for each my clothing and my sleeping bag. The rest of things is in little ziplock bags. Since i wanted a pack with a hipbelt, i had to buy one bigger than what i strictly need (28L internal). I compensate that by folding a 180x50cm 2mm EVA matress which i put inside against my back. This takes some volume, adds some rigidity and padding. My drybag with the clothing goes in first. Its the bigger and heavier of the two. On top of that i put the ziplog bags (electronics, washkit).On top of that goes my sleeping bag drybag. On top of that i put my sandals to have them out quickly in the albergue. Raingear, first aid and credential go either on top of that or somewhere else in the pack, depends a bit on what the weather and stage look like and if i think i'll need either of them easy on hand or not. Now i press down all of that tightly into the pack, roll down the rolltop as far as possible and pull in the side compression straps. Hopefully i did everything correctly and dont have the plug from my charger pressing into my back ;-) .
As i said, it is a bit of trial and error where things best fit into the pack. I try to get the heavier items further down and the items most likely to be needed further up. And tighter the fit the better it carries.

 

[Astipad]

6 weeks and 8 trials later….


Habemus Backpack !!!!

Done , at last. Osprey Sirrus 36.

 

[Seger]

I have the same pack. I just soaked mine in the bathtub and it came out fresh and looking brand new for my next camino.

 

[AchimBerlin]

6 weeks and 8 trials later….


Habemus Backpack !!!!

Done , at last. Osprey Sirrus 36.View attachment 176631

Have fun and Bom Camino!

 

[JustOneGuy]

Hi David, I find when I have this (with Osprey Hikelite 26) that the pack sways a bit and rubs against my neck. Any suggestions? I'm currently stuffy rolled bandanas or washcloths under them to protect my neck. Thanks, Kris

I guess you already know this but, just in case, on the back of Osprey Stratos and Sirrus backpacks - like on many other backpack - there is a pair of height adjustable attachments (see photo).


After using my Stratos 44L the first time I had the same problem. I lowered their position a couple of times ...et voila, all good.

 

[justynak]

I have a similar dilemma as I'm looking for a backpack for Camino Frances - starting October 1 for about a month. I'm flying with Ryanair but with one stop therefore I only take carry on bag and no checked in luggage (I don't want to risk my backpack getting lost/delayed in transfer). The Ryanair policy says 55x40x20cm and 10kg. I checked Osprey Sirrus 36l dimensions and they are 68x37x27cm - so sadly won't fit these restrictions. I'm 160cm and 50kg so will try to stick to 10% rule / 5-6kg backpack. Do you have any other recommendations of backpack models I should look into?

 

[JoroAtanasof]

I have a similar dilemma as I'm looking for a backpack for Camino Frances - starting October 1 for about a month. I'm flying with Ryanair but with one stop therefore I only take carry on bag and no checked in luggage (I don't want to risk my backpack getting lost/delayed in transfer). The Ryanair policy says 55x40x20cm and 10kg. I checked Osprey Sirrus 36l dimensions and they are 68x37x27cm - so sadly won't fit these restrictions. I'm 160cm and 50kg so will try to stick to 10% rule / 5-6kg backpack. Do you have any other recommendations of backpack models I should look into?

In my experience you just have to add their Priority option , with one backpack and priority option i never had any issues with Ryanair or Wizzair .

 

[justynak]

In my experience you just have to add their Priority option , with one backpack and priority option i never had any issues with Ryanair or Wizzair .

Thank you! I already booked the priority option and it comes with two cabin bags. So weight-wise I should be fine, it's only the dimensions that seem to be a potential issue. It's good to know it worked for you. If anyone has recommendations for a specific backpack model, I'm still looking!

 

[JoroAtanasof]

Thank you! I already booked the priority option and it comes with two cabin bags. So weight-wise I should be fine, it's only the dimensions that seem to be a potential issue. It's good to know it worked for you. If anyone has recommendations for a specific backpack model, I'm still looking!

https://eu.gregorypacks.com/no-en/p...um-grey/143364-0529.html?cgid=packs-day-packs.

If you want somthing lightweight and simple :

Ducan 30 | Mammut

The Ducan 30 impresses above all with its light weight. The side pockets are positioned within easy reach even when carrying the backpack, true to the principle of “access on the go”. There is also a mesh pocket on the shoulder strap. Thanks to the excellent ventilation for the back provided by...

www.mammut.com

 

[justynak]

https://eu.gregorypacks.com/no-en/p...um-grey/143364-0529.html?cgid=packs-day-packs.

If you want somthing lightweight and simple :

Ducan 30 | Mammut

The Ducan 30 impresses above all with its light weight. The side pockets are positioned within easy reach even when carrying the backpack, true to the principle of “access on the go”. There is also a mesh pocket on the shoulder strap. Thanks to the excellent ventilation for the back provided by...

www.mammut.com

Many thanks, I ordered gregory maven to see how it fits me

 

[ShoshTrvls]

Thank you! I already booked the priority option and it comes with two cabin bags. So weight-wise I should be fine, it's only the dimensions that seem to be a potential issue. It's good to know it worked for you. If anyone has recommendations for a specific backpack model, I'm still looking!

Since you can bring two bags, why not make the second a light duffle and split your gear between the two? With your backpack less full it should meet the restrictions.

 

[justynak]

Since you can bring two bags, why not make the second a light duffle and split your gear between the two? With your backpack less full it should meet the restrictions.

Good point, that's what I'm also thinking to do. I just want my "main" backpack to be as big as possible within the Ryanair carry on restrictions (so that after I can repack and put the second backpack inside the main one; rather than walking with two). Thus looking for recommendations but seems like Osprey Sirrus 35 and Gregory Maven 35 are both good options that will also fit the Ryanair policies

 

[Camino Chrissy]

Osprey Sirrus 36.

This is the pack I have used since 2017 and mine is a women's specific model and still going strong. The main straps can get abit itchy by the underarm, but I've improved it with suggestions on this forum. Being an older model, it is more robust and heavier. My sister in law has suggested I try her REI Traverse 35 which she bought in early 2020 before covid and never used. I'm going to fill it up and test it before I leave for the Invierno in 21 days.

 

[ShoshTrvls]

This is the pack I have used since 2017 and mine is a women's specific model and still going strong. The main straps can get abit itchy by the underarm, but I've improved it with suggestions on this forum. Being an older model, it is more robust and heavier. My sister in law has suggested I try her REI Traverse 35 which she bought in early 2020 before covid and never used. I'm going to fill it up and test it before I leave for the Invierno in 21 days.

I have a Traverse and I really love it. I had originally bought the Gregory Jade online and went into REI to have them help me with the fit. I couldn’t get it right so tried on the Traverse 32L (they don’t make a 35L any longer) and it was like night and day; I felt absolutely no weight on me when I was wearing the Traverse and it performed like a champ on the Ingles. And 32L was really all I needed for my stuff.

 

[Astipad]

I have a similar dilemma as I'm looking for a backpack for Camino Frances - starting October 1 for about a month. I'm flying with Ryanair but with one stop therefore I only take carry on bag and no checked in luggage (I don't want to risk my backpack getting lost/delayed in transfer). The Ryanair policy says 55x40x20cm and 10kg. I checked Osprey Sirrus 36l dimensions and they are 68x37x27cm - so sadly won't fit these restrictions. I'm 160cm and 50kg so will try to stick to 10% rule / 5-6kg backpack. Do you have any other recommendations of backpack models I should look into?

Hi! A bit late answering this, but I went with the Osprey Sirrus 36l bag to the airport to test it. and it fits in the Priority bag case for Ryanair. The structure is 55cm long quite exactly. The 68, I suppose it’s when the brain would be fully packed.


Flying out with Ryanair too, so I know now it’ll be ok. Flying back with Vueling though and they have muted into the major pain as an airline so that’s going to be interesting…

 

[justynak]

Thank you everyone for advice and great ideas. I'm continuing with packing!

 

[Astipad]

Thank you everyone for advice and great ideas. I'm continuing with packing!

viel Spaß

 

[maryelle]

Last Minute info: The Rab is back in the game, the Osprey Velocity is out. My daughter’s boyfriend is over for the weekend and he is a climber and a thruhiker, so he had a look at both packs and helped me fit them better. The Rab is the winner between both. No chafing anymore. Thank God I did not send it back yet. The Osprey is not comfortable at all, the vest part does not fit well on me.
Still waiting for the Gregory and the Montane.

Did you already choose? I love the Rab too, and am deciding (trying to lol) between the Rab and osprey Eja. I am exactly 43cm, which is the max for eja xs/s which can go as carry on, and the minimum for the rab with 43-48. I love them both equally and have trouble sending one back lol

oh i see you went with the sirrus, omg this one gave me hell on a try out 25k. the straps are so hard that they gave me bruises. Ill continue my test walks with rab and eja........

 

[Astipad]

Did you already choose? I love the Rab too, and am deciding (trying to lol) between the Rab and osprey Eja. I am exactly 43cm, which is the max for eja xs/s which can go as carry on, and the minimum for the rab with 43-48. I love them both equally and have trouble sending one back lol

oh i see you went with the sirrus, omg this one gave me hell on a try out 25k. the straps are so hard that they gave me bruises. Ill continue my test walks with rab and eja........

The hip straps gave you bruises, really?

 

[maryelle]

The hip straps gave you bruises, really?

Yes both the hips and collarbones were bruised, they were so hard on my bones.

 

[Astipad]

I just made it to Porto with my Sirrus 36 and Ryanair had no problem with it at all. Also, the security in Malaga did not blink an eye about my hiking poles, and almost every backpacker on the plane had poles in the cabin with them. And this although the plane was absolutely packed.

Tomorrow morning I will start walking, wish me luck!

 

[Astipad]

Soooo… I arrived in Santiago this morning after 13 days doing the Camino portuguese central. I loved the Camino, especially from Porto to Tui, and I adore my Sirrus 36. It was well worth spending the time and the effort searching for the right one. No chafing, no back pain, nada. Had some blisters but nothing bad and I am sure I could have carried less but for a first time I am happy with my decisions. Now looking forward to planning the next one…

 

[sharonmonty]

Best of luck on your backpack search. Speaking from my experience, you might also want to consider a couple of adjuncts, such as a small waist pack for those common everyday items (tissues, phone, charger, etc.). You will soon appreciate it because you will not have to remove your backpack as frequently. Also, some type of water resistant pouch on a lanyard round your neck for your Credenciale, passport, credit cards, cash, etc. Buen Camino!

I like a small waist belt that holds my phone, passport and credencial. I like them on me so I can’t lose them!

 

[sharonmonty]

Soooo… I arrived in Santiago this morning after 13 days doing the Camino portuguese central. I loved the Camino, especially from Porto to Tui, and I adore my Sirrus 36. It was well worth spending the time and the effort searching for the right one. No chafing, no back pain, nada. Had some blisters but nothing bad and I am sure I could have carried less but for a first time I am happy with my decisions. Now looking forward to planning the next one…

Enjoyed following your backpack journey and so pleased it all worked out

 

[bestfootforward]

I just finished the Camino Frances with my Gregory Deva 36. It fits perfectly and I don't really notice it once I put it on. I could have gone with a 30, but like the extra space. I lined it with a 36 l dry bag, which I occasionally ship ahead. I also have a larger Gregory for mountain backpacking.

I admit to having a backpack fetish. Just couldn't walk past a store without trying one, or more on.....which subsequently lead to buying. I've tried 'em all and have since 2018 been a Gregory devotee with a Zulu 55 and now an Amber 44 from the Finesterre/Gregory collab. Both sensational and I agree, once on I don't notice I'm wearing it. Love them both.

 

[HappyValerie]

Hi Everyone, I'm heading off for my 3rd Camino next February, visiting pilgrims in Germany that I met on my first 2 before I head to SJPP. I have previously taken my backpack as handluggage, which I loved. However, my poles were confiscated at Madrid airport on my last return.
I'm thinking of checking it in this time but am concerned about the straps, clips etc maybe getting caught or damaged. I'm trying to find a very lightweight durable bag but no luck so far.
I'm thinking of getting a 2nd backpack rain cover ("shower cap") & putting it on the front, then tying a cord around the whole thing like a parcel. Has anyone tried this?
Thoughts, suggestions and wisdom appreciated.

 

[Juspassinthru]

I bought an inexpensive nylon pack bag. I’ve used it on 2/3 Caminos when I used my larger pack. While on the Camino, it’s at the very bottom of my pack as it weighs next to nothing. Check Amazon for backup travel cover.

 

[Juspassinthru]

I bought an inexpensive nylon pack bag. I’ve used it on 2/3 Caminos when I used my larger pack. While on the Camino, it’s at the very bottom of my pack as it weighs next to nothing. Check Amazon for backup travel cover.

I have friends who use these too, inexpensive from Ikea.

FRAKTA storage bag, blue, 73x35x30 cm76 l (28 ¾x13 ¾x11 ¾"20 gallon) - IKEA CA

FRAKTA storage bag, blue, 73x35x30 cm76 l (28 ¾x13 ¾x11 ¾"20 gallon) After 30 years in our range, it’s one of the most hardworking bags in the world. It’s big and strong and carries most things. Be it shopping, doing laundry or going to the beach, it goes wherever you go.

www.ikea.com

 

[HappyValerie]

I have friends who use these too, inexpensive from Ikea.

FRAKTA storage bag, blue, 73x35x30 cm76 l (28 ¾x13 ¾x11 ¾"20 gallon) - IKEA CA

FRAKTA storage bag, blue, 73x35x30 cm76 l (28 ¾x13 ¾x11 ¾"20 gallon) After 30 years in our range, it’s one of the most hardworking bags in the world. It’s big and strong and carries most things. Be it shopping, doing laundry or going to the beach, it goes wherever you go.

www.ikea.com

Thank you so much. I have no idea how I didn't see these when I was Googling. I will definitely check them out.

 

[trecile]

Hi Everyone, I'm heading off for my 3rd Camino next February, visiting pilgrims in Germany that I met on my first 2 before I head to SJPP. I have previously taken my backpack as handluggage, which I loved. However, my poles were confiscated at Madrid airport on my last return.
I'm thinking of checking it in this time but am concerned about the straps, clips etc maybe getting caught or damaged. I'm trying to find a very lightweight durable bag but no luck so far.
I'm thinking of getting a 2nd backpack rain cover ("shower cap") & putting it on the front, then tying a cord around the whole thing like a parcel. Has anyone tried this?
Thoughts, suggestions and wisdom appreciated.

You can carry on your backpack and check your poles in by putting them in a box, mailing tube, or inexpensive duffel bag.
If your checked in poles go missing they are much easier to replace than your entire backpack contents.

 

[HappyValerie]

You can carry on your backpack and check your poles in by putting them in a box, mailing tube, or inexpensive duffel bag.
If your checked in poles go missing they are much easier to replace than your entire backpack contents.

Yes, I really do prefer having my "shell" on my back. And poles seem much cheaper in Europe than Australia.

 

[JustOneGuy]

I travelled a very large number of times with a backpack checked in on very long flights with changes, and never got a single damage.

 

[HappyValerie]

I travelled a very large number of times with a backpack checked in on very long flights with changes, and never got a single damage.

That's encouraging. Did you tuck in the straps & clasps? I think airports tend to have belts rather than rollers, but I'm just trying to minimise risks.

 

[JustOneGuy]

That's encouraging. Did you tuck in the straps & clasps? I think airports tend to have belts rather than rollers, but I'm just trying to minimise risks.

Sometime I just tuck the straps together (more often I even forgot to do that...).

 

[justynak]

I was active in this thread a few months ago and decided to buy Osprey Sirrus 36 so wanted to share my experience too. In short, I love it! The construction, the weight distribution, the durability, absolutely great. It served me for one month Camino in October and I find this size perfect. It also flies as carry on, at least I haven't had any issues with three European low cost airlines incl. Ryanair (which I was most concerned about). I just wouldn't pack it extremelny full and up to the top but this might be just me. I also used it for other trips since and happy with it so far. Thanks to all who contributed here and especially to @Astipad , your post convinced me to get this size and model!

 

[Paul-CH]

I'm 160cm and 50kg so will try to stick to 10% rule / 5-6kg backpack. Do you have any other recommendations of backpack models I should look into?

I am 178cm 65kg, at 2017 my first backpack for hiking 3000km in 4 months from Konstanz to SdC and Porto was a Mammut Lithium Speed 15l. For a bit more comfort on my next pilgrimage 2018 I did buy the Mammut Lithium Speed 20l. I still got it and Im happy with it. Size 53cm x 24cm x 22cm suitable as hand luggage for airplanes.
But some people like to carry more stuff around to be happy.