Am I being too greedy or ambitious? Le Puy AND start in Geneva?

[CTLawGal]

I am starting to plan my second Camino, focusing on Le Puy (although a little tempted to return to the Norte/Primitivo/Fisterre of my first Camino in Spring 2023... maybe next time!).

I've started reading through the posts on Le Puy, lots of good material there! Trying to absorb it all. I am thinking about maybe starting on the GR65 in Geneva, which would add another 3 weeks (I think I'll be able to do Le Puy to SJPDP in about 32-33 days) and would love to hear from others who have combined the two. That would make it maybe 10 days more than my first Camino, so I think I should be able to do it, although I was extremely exhausted my last day and remember thinking it's a good thing today IS my last day, I don't think I could do more (but maybe it felt like that because I KNEW it was my last day?).

Should I stick with my original plan to start in Le Puy? Am I being greedy or too ambitious to try to add another 3 weeks?

For those who have walked both Norte/Primitivo and Geneva/Le Puy, how does it compare elevation gain wise? From what I can tell from the guidebooks, it looks like mostly a bit easier, more moderate than the Norte/Primitivo, a few long days with some elevation gain, but mostly moderate. Does that sound right?

I will be 66 in the spring and I speak French ( a little rusty, but have fond memories of my last Camino with entire days speaking only French with pilgrims who spoke no or limited English). I am female and walked by myself, I never felt unsafe on my last Camino; do those of you who have walked either or both of these routes think any particular precautions are in order?

I'm also trying to decide whether to start mid-April, or maybe 3rd week of April, not sure if starting in Geneva impacts timing decision. I appreciate that weather can be unpredictable so it's hard to second guess timing, but I also know that there are lots of French holidays during May. I don't mind the cold, but don't love torrential downpours, but am prepared to walk in both.

Thank you in advance for all advice! While I've responded to many posts, I think this is my first query! Everyone on this forum is so helpful!

 

[Peterexpatkiwi]

@CTLawGal , there’s quite a few forum members that have done this, hopefully some of them will chip in. I’ve only looked at it from a planning perspective to date.

Have you read this sub forum for the Via Gebennensis?

https://www.caminodesantiago.me/community/forums/GenevatoLePuy/

@caminka has loaded a ton of info in the resources section too.

Edited to add: if you want a good read, don't miss the highly entertaining threads from @sunflowerfunk ! ( Via Gebennensis and Le Puy). Unfortunately Max never completed the Le Puy thread (I'm still hopeful)

 

[Jarrad]

Since you are concerned about the time, I'll throw another option at you: Maybe consider starting in Lyon. I visited in 2022 and it was fabulous. Beautiful cathedral, Roman amphitheater and museum, les traboules, not to mention the best food in France.

You can check out the route to Le Puy here, you'll just need to translate the page.

 

[CTLawGal]

@CTLawGal , there’s quite a few forum members that have done this, hopefully some of them will chip in. I’ve only looked at it from a planning perspective to date.

Have you read this sub forum for the Via Gebennensis?

https://www.caminodesantiago.me/community/forums/GenevatoLePuy/

@caminka has loaded a ton of info in the resources section too.

Edited to add: if you want a good read, don't miss the highly entertaining threads from @sunflowerfunk ! ( Via Gebennensis and Le Puy). Unfortunately Max never completed the Le Puy thread (I'm still hopeful)

Thanks so much - I’ve been reading thru posts on the sub forum, lots of great info and really benefitting from the real life insights of others. Lots to absorb. Right now I’m trying to focus on the route and how far to walk, then keep filling in as I make the rest of my plans. Everyone seems to endorse booking early (now might be a was too early for some places) especially in May which seems to be popular time for the French to walk certain portions. I’m a planner and feel like I need to settle on the basic outline of the trip for now. For a variety of reasons I couldn’t go this year and I’m just itching to go back!

 

[CTLawGal]

Since you are concerned about the time, I'll throw another option at you: Maybe consider starting in Lyon. I visited in 2022 and it was fabulous. Beautiful cathedral, Roman amphitheater and museum, les traboules, not to mention the best food in France.

You can check out the route to Le Puy here, you'll just need to translate the page.

Interesting idea! I wondered if it would be difficult to find my way from Lyons. Hard to pass up best food in France!!

 

[KFH]

I haven't done it, though earlier this year was planning on doing Geneva ----> as well.

Consequently, I looked into it quite a bit but ended up changing and will therefore leave the comments to others-- except to wish you well and to mention that Efren did Geneva to Le Puy and Le Puy to SJ. I think you will find his Geneva- Le Puy videos quite helpful.

Geneva Way - Via Gebennensis | Vlog Series

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[CTLawGal]

I haven't done it, though earlier this year was planning on doing Geneva ----> as well.

Consequently, I looked into it quite a bit but ended up changing and will therefore leave the comments to others-- except to wish you well and to mention that Efren did Geneva to Le Puy and Le Puy to SJ. I think you will find his Geneva- Le Puy videos quite helpful.

Geneva Way - Via Gebennensis | Vlog Series

Share your videos with friends, family, and the world

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Thank you! I haven't really looked at Camino videos, maybe now is the time to start! Very helpful!

 

[federico]

I walked this route in 2021 as far as Cahors (via Rocamadour) and found it to be a wonderful combination. It took 30 days (about 25 km/day) with about 2 weeks to Le Puy. The Gebennensis is quiet and when you reach Le Puy it's a refresh. The energy changes and it's good to be around other pilgrims.

 

[Paul-CH]

Have a look at my Routing Info 3000km from Switzerland to SdC and Porto in 2017
You will find my daily stages with distance and the ups/down gains.

 

[CTLawGal]

I walked this route in 2021 as far as Cahors (via Rocamadour) and found it to be a wonderful combination. It took 30 days (about 25 km/day) with about 2 weeks to Le Puy. The Gebennensis is quiet and when you reach Le Puy it's a refresh. The energy changes and it's good to be around other pilgrims.

Thank you! That confirms my general impression - and I started watching the Efren YouTubes recommended by KFH above, in July it seems like he barely saw any pilgrims. I like the idea of starting in solitude and meeting more pilgrims as you progress, which seems similar to my experience on the Primitivo where I barely spoke to anyone the first week, then the over the next few weeks made friends I'm still in contact with now. Thanks so much for sharing your experience.

 

[CTLawGal]

Have a look at my Routing Info 3000km from Switzerland to SdC and Porto in 2017
You will find my daily stages with distance and the ups/down gains.

Will check this out! Thanks!

 

[bullingtonce]

I am starting to plan my second Camino, focusing on Le Puy (although a little tempted to return to the Norte/Primitivo/Fisterre of my first Camino in Spring 2023... maybe next time!).

I've started reading through the posts on Le Puy, lots of good material there! Trying to absorb it all. I am thinking about maybe starting on the GR65 in Geneva, which would add another 3 weeks (I think I'll be able to do Le Puy to SJPDP in about 32-33 days) and would love to hear from others who have combined the two. That would make it maybe 10 days more than my first Camino, so I think I should be able to do it, although I was extremely exhausted my last day and remember thinking it's a good thing today IS my last day, I don't think I could do more (but maybe it felt like that because I KNEW it was my last day?).

Should I stick with my original plan to start in Le Puy? Am I being greedy or too ambitious to try to add another 3 weeks?

For those who have walked both Norte/Primitivo and Geneva/Le Puy, how does it compare elevation gain wise? From what I can tell from the guidebooks, it looks like mostly a bit easier, more moderate than the Norte/Primitivo, a few long days with some elevation gain, but mostly moderate. Does that sound right?

I will be 66 in the spring and I speak French ( a little rusty, but have fond memories of my last Camino with entire days speaking only French with pilgrims who spoke no or limited English). I am female and walked by myself, I never felt unsafe on my last Camino; do those of you who have walked either or both of these routes think any particular precautions are in order?

I'm also trying to decide whether to start mid-April, or maybe 3rd week of April, not sure if starting in Geneva impacts timing decision. I appreciate that weather can be unpredictable so it's hard to second guess timing, but I also know that there are lots of French holidays during May. I don't mind the cold, but don't love torrential downpours, but am prepared to walk in both.

Thank you in advance for all advice! While I've responded to many posts, I think this is my first query! Everyone on this forum is so helpful!

It is a question that needs not be asked. Always go for what pushes and challenges you. You are prepred to walk in whatever conditions so the three weeks addition is of no consequence EVEN IF IT GOES TERRIBLY WRONG. And as for walking by yourself, remember that 'He' has given you the potential to be the most vengeful and wrathful heroine on planet earth. God help anyone who even thinks of invading your God-given sacred space. And I double-check with God, He said it is permissible for you to carry some sort of protective device be it pepper spray or some such other device. And to top it off most everyone, not all, on this forum sends you spiritual energy to you. Go forth and conquer. Chuck PS I am seventy-seven years old and plan to do a two month trek in the Himalayas, 14,000 to 18,000 feet. On the other hand, I may well be mentally off in so many ways. Could well be.

 

[David Tallan]

And I double-check with God, He said it is permissible for you to carry some sort of protective device be it pepper spray or some such other device.

While "He" may have given permission, that doesn't necessarily carry a lot of weight with the authorities here on Earth. I always advise checking the local laws and regulations as to what is permissible before taking such things on Camino.

 

[CTLawGal]

While "He" may have given permission, that doesn't necessarily carry a lot of weight with the authorities here on Earth. I always advise checking the local laws and regulations as to what is permissible before taking such things on Camino.

Definitely! Good reminder!

 

[GuyA]

In 2013 I walked the Via Gebennensis from Geneva to Le Puy en Velay in 13 days. Then a rest day in Le Puy en Velay and the Via Podiensis to St Jean Pied de Port in 27 days. I was 56 now 67 so no idea what it would take me now

In 2022 I walked the Camino Primitivo from Oviedo to Santiago in 12 days and Camino San Salvador from Leon to Oviedo in 5 days. I was 65.

I blogged on a daily basis www.caminolongwalk.blogspot.com…perhaps that may have some useful info.

The routes you are considering are beautiful.
Of the 8 Camino routes I have been fortunate to walk I rank Via Gebennensis as my favourite. I also speak French which was very helpful.

Bon chemin!

Guy

 

[CTLawGal]

In 2013 I walked the Via Gebennensis from Geneva to Le Puy en Velay in 13 days. Then a rest day in Le Puy en Velay and the Via Podiensis to St Jean Pied de Port in 27 days. I was 56 now 67 so no idea what it would take me now

In 2022 I walked the Camino Primitivo from Oviedo to Santiago in 12 days and Camino San Salvador from Leon to Oviedo in 5 days. I was 65.

I blogged on a daily basis www.caminolongwalk.blogspot.com…perhaps that may have some useful info.

The routes you are considering are beautiful.
Of the 8 Camino routes I have been fortunate to walk I rank Via Gebennensis as my favourite. I also speak French which was very helpful.

Bon chemin!

Guy

Thank you! Will check out the blog. I love that you rank it as your favorite! Your pace seems very strong (amazing!), I'm thinking of doing it a little more slowly, ha! I thought I might enjoy it because it was an opportunity to speak French for weeks and experience a part of France with which I am not familiar.

 

[GuyA]

Thank you! Will check out the blog. I love that you rank it as your favorite! Your pace seems very strong (amazing!), I'm thinking of doing it a little more slowly, ha! I thought I might enjoy it because it was an opportunity to speak French for weeks and experience a part of France with which I am not familiar.

Agreed the pace in retrospect was really fast…I joined a group who became life long friends and they essentially pulled me along No question I would take more time today.

The Via Gebennensis was not busy when I walked it however the countryside was really something. I have never been able to really express properly why it has been my favourite Camino route however the feeling is there. Great memories and I hope you have an opportunity to walk it as well.

 

[BlackRocker57]

I am starting to plan my second Camino, focusing on Le Puy (although a little tempted to return to the Norte/Primitivo/Fisterre of my first Camino in Spring 2023... maybe next time!).

I've started reading through the posts on Le Puy, lots of good material there! Trying to absorb it all. I am thinking about maybe starting on the GR65 in Geneva, which would add another 3 weeks (I think I'll be able to do Le Puy to SJPDP in about 32-33 days) and would love to hear from others who have combined the two. That would make it maybe 10 days more than my first Camino, so I think I should be able to do it, although I was extremely exhausted my last day and remember thinking it's a good thing today IS my last day, I don't think I could do more (but maybe it felt like that because I KNEW it was my last day?).

Should I stick with my original plan to start in Le Puy? Am I being greedy or too ambitious to try to add another 3 weeks?

For those who have walked both Norte/Primitivo and Geneva/Le Puy, how does it compare elevation gain wise? From what I can tell from the guidebooks, it looks like mostly a bit easier, more moderate than the Norte/Primitivo, a few long days with some elevation gain, but mostly moderate. Does that sound right?

I will be 66 in the spring and I speak French ( a little rusty, but have fond memories of my last Camino with entire days speaking only French with pilgrims who spoke no or limited English). I am female and walked by myself, I never felt unsafe on my last Camino; do those of you who have walked either or both of these routes think any particular precautions are in order?

I'm also trying to decide whether to start mid-April, or maybe 3rd week of April, not sure if starting in Geneva impacts timing decision. I appreciate that weather can be unpredictable so it's hard to second guess timing, but I also know that there are lots of French holidays during May. I don't mind the cold, but don't love torrential downpours, but am prepared to walk in both.

Thank you in advance for all advice! While I've responded to many posts, I think this is my first query! Everyone on this forum is so helpful!

I haven’t walked the GR65 Via Gebennensis yet but done loads of research and had hoped to walk in 2020 [but we all know what happened then] ... it is definitely a less travelled path at any time of the year ... including in peak hiking and travelling months ... if you are on FB you might like to check out the blog called «Wandering with Soul» ... the author has just finished walking from Geneva solo and she wrote a very helpful summary when she arrived at Le Puy ...

 

[VNwalking]

Should I stick with my original plan to start in Le Puy? Am I being greedy or too ambitious to try to add another 3 weeks?

First thought best thought.
And even though I have no basis in experience to be saying this, my first thought reading your post is 'why not?' The walking will be the only thing that puts the doubt to bed.

You know your own fitness and stamina. Read a few live threads here, and based on what you know you can do, others' stories, and info here plan distances you can manage on a daily basis.

 

[CTLawGal]

In 2013 I walked the Via Gebennensis from Geneva to Le Puy en Velay in 13 days. Then a rest day in Le Puy en Velay and the Via Podiensis to St Jean Pied de Port in 27 days. I was 56 now 67 so no idea what it would take me now

In 2022 I walked the Camino Primitivo from Oviedo to Santiago in 12 days and Camino San Salvador from Leon to Oviedo in 5 days. I was 65.

I blogged on a daily basis www.caminolongwalk.blogspot.com…perhaps that may have some useful info.

The routes you are considering are beautiful.
Of the 8 Camino routes I have been fortunate to walk I rank Via Gebennensis as my favourite. I also speak French which was very helpful.

Bon chemin!

Guy

As a follow up, so you recommend a rest day in Le Puy? You were walking at a faster pace than I plan but I’m wondering if I should plan a rest day there? On my first Camino I didn’t take any rest days over 42 days, but I did shorten a few stages in the first two weeks which seemed to work well. Is there enough to see in Le Puy to merit a full extra day?

 

[GuyA]

I enjoyed it…thought it was a nice city after 13 long days. Here is a link to my blogpost for that day…might give you some ideas.

I also normally don’t plan many rest days

Via Podiensis (October 9, 2013) - Rest Day Le Puy en Velay

Ah....today was a rest day in the historic city of Le Puy en Velay. The day has been a real treat however I have done everything I want to d...

caminolongwalk.blogspot.com

 

[Peterexpatkiwi]

@CTLawGal : From what I have seen and read, most definitely! It does of course depend on what interests you. For me the architecture sounds incredible. ( I love old buildings). Not only is the Cathédrale Notre-Dame worth a look, but the Chapel of Saint-Michel, the Corneille rock with attendant statues, and the historical town centre. I'm not religious but the pictures I've seen of those first three items alone make them worth visiting.
A quick Google search will give you an indication as to what I mean.
Because Le Puy is not exactly flat I think it would take more than just a few hours there to visit everything. And France is a wonderful country, why not just relax and enjoy a cafe for an hour or two....

 

[PeteAJ]

One consideration might be whether or not company and other pilgrims is an interest. Apologies as I haven't done the GR65 Via Gebennensis myself but it'd have to have less people than the Norte or Primitivo. No? Is the Le Puy Via Podiensis itself as traveled as the Norte? Not sure. And not to discourage walking further, greed is not in question! On the Le Puy I met a couple of people coming from Geneva who seemed happy with it and a couple of other people hoping to go all the way to Santiago. It's lively at first but there was a fairly modest group on any one stage after Conques.

 

[CTLawGal]

One consideration might be whether or not company and other pilgrims is an interest. Apologies as I haven't done the GR65 Via Gebennensis myself but it'd have to have less people than the Norte or Primitivo. No? Is the Le Puy Via Podiensis itself as traveled as the Norte? Not sure. And not to discourage walking further, greed is not in question! On the Le Puy I met a couple of people coming from Geneva who seemed happy with it and a couple of other people hoping to go all the way to Santiago. It's lively at first but there was a fairly modest group on any one stage after Conques.

Thank you. From what I can tell, there are not many on the Gebennensis at any time. I’m thinking I may like the solitude for the first few weeks and hope there will be more (but not too many, ha!) once I go thru Le Puy. But it is a consideration for sure and something to think about

 

[CTLawGal]

I have decided to embrace the power of extending my Camino by starting in Geneva! I will walk the Gebennensis AND the Podiensis - I think what finally decided me was I felt that at age 66 when I start, it is likely I will not have the chance to come this way again (although never say never), and I really welcome the opportunity for solitude in the first week on the Gebennensis and hopefully won't be disappointed in opportunities to meet others along the Podiensis way, even if they are French walkers on May holidays for part of it.

Although in my first Camino I didn't take a rest day, I think I will spend two nights in Le Puy to regroup a bit.

I am thinking of starting in mid-April - does that seem too early? I know you can never tell with weather but hoping it won't be too wet (or snowy?) those first weeks (Altus poncho to the rescue!). Start before or after Easter? Trying to figure out what towns I should not be walking to on a Sunday or other holiday and work backwards from there and make sure I pack in food in advance of places with limited resources.

Any thoughts on start days, or is it just such a wildcard it's best to just pick a date and hope for best, poncho-up for the worst?

Super excited!

 

[Paul-CH]

At 2017 I did start at Konstanz and had been in Geneva at April 4th. I had temperatures from -4°C to 11°C in the morning around 8am. In den afternoon it was mostly warmer and I was able to hike with short sleeves and sometimes a additional windstopper. If you plan with Easter I would recommend to reserve your accommodations at least a day in advance. Especially when they offer dinner, they need to know for how many people they have to cook. Easter is in France a time, when they go to nice places and use the hotels and B&Bs.

 

[CTLawGal]

At 2017 I did start at Konstanz and had been in Geneva at April 4th. I had temperatures from -4°C to 11°C in the morning around 8am. In den afternoon it was mostly warmer and I was able to hike with short sleeves and sometimes a additional windstopper. If you plan with Easter I would recommend to reserve your accommodations at least a day in advance. Especially when they offer dinner, they need to know for how many people they have to cook. Easter is in France a time, when they go to nice places and use the hotels and B&Bs.

Thank you! Very helpful - I think I can handle those temps (handle better if not raining hard, ha!). I prefer that to heat, for sure. And yes, definitely reserve ahead, around Easter and during the May holidays!

 

[Walkervine]

I am starting to plan my second Camino, focusing on Le Puy (although a little tempted to return to the Norte/Primitivo/Fisterre of my first Camino in Spring 2023... maybe next time!).

I've started reading through the posts on Le Puy, lots of good material there! Trying to absorb it all. I am thinking about maybe starting on the GR65 in Geneva, which would add another 3 weeks (I think I'll be able to do Le Puy to SJPDP in about 32-33 days) and would love to hear from others who have combined the two. That would make it maybe 10 days more than my first Camino, so I think I should be able to do it, although I was extremely exhausted my last day and remember thinking it's a good thing today IS my last day, I don't think I could do more (but maybe it felt like that because I KNEW it was my last day?).

Should I stick with my original plan to start in Le Puy? Am I being greedy or too ambitious to try to add another 3 weeks?

For those who have walked both Norte/Primitivo and Geneva/Le Puy, how does it compare elevation gain wise? From what I can tell from the guidebooks, it looks like mostly a bit easier, more moderate than the Norte/Primitivo, a few long days with some elevation gain, but mostly moderate. Does that sound right?

I will be 66 in the spring and I speak French ( a little rusty, but have fond memories of my last Camino with entire days speaking only French with pilgrims who spoke no or limited English). I am female and walked by myself, I never felt unsafe on my last Camino; do those of you who have walked either or both of these routes think any particular precautions are in order?

I'm also trying to decide whether to start mid-April, or maybe 3rd week of April, not sure if starting in Geneva impacts timing decision. I appreciate that weather can be unpredictable so it's hard to second guess timing, but I also know that there are lots of French holidays during May. I don't mind the cold, but don't love torrential downpours, but am prepared to walk in both.

Thank you in advance for all advice! While I've responded to many posts, I think this is my first query! Everyone on this forum is so helpful!

I have walked from Geneva to SJPP. It is a fantastic walk, but also very demanding. I feel that the issue with the walk is that it does follow the GR - the entire camino route feels like someone connected a load of weekend walks together and this is notable in the bizarre routing of some of the stages. I would say that it is more difficult to walk than the CN. But, it is an incredible camino and definitely worth it!

 

[Walkervine]

I have decided to embrace the power of extending my Camino by starting in Geneva! I will walk the Gebennensis AND the Podiensis - I think what finally decided me was I felt that at age 66 when I start, it is likely I will not have the chance to come this way again (although never say never), and I really welcome the opportunity for solitude in the first week on the Gebennensis and hopefully won't be disappointed in opportunities to meet others along the Podiensis way, even if they are French walkers on May holidays for part of it.

Although in my first Camino I didn't take a rest day, I think I will spend two nights in Le Puy to regroup a bit.

I am thinking of starting in mid-April - does that seem too early? I know you can never tell with weather but hoping it won't be too wet (or snowy?) those first weeks (Altus poncho to the rescue!). Start before or after Easter? Trying to figure out what towns I should not be walking to on a Sunday or other holiday and work backwards from there and make sure I pack in food in advance of places with limited resources.

Any thoughts on start days, or is it just such a wildcard it's best to just pick a date and hope for best, poncho-up for the worst?

Super excited!

Oh, and the monastery in Conque is a must-stay place on that camino!

 

[Paul-CH]

There are many nice places and villages on the Via Gebenensis and Via Podiensis. Check for pictures on my blog elcaminohike

 

[CTLawGal]

Oh, and the monastery in Conque is a must-stay place on that camino!

Good to know - I'm actually also thinking of going a little off-piste and taking a taxi to the Monastery in Chartreuse (planning stages so that day would be shorter walk plus side trip to Chartreuse) - now wouldn't THAT be something if I can swing it?!

 

[CTLawGal]

There are many nice places and villages on the Via Gebenensis and Via Podiensis. Check for pictures on my blog elcaminohike

Thank you for sharing your blog! Your pictures have really inspired me and I am now even more excited to go! 6 more months of training though!

 

[Walkervine]

Good to know - I'm actually also thinking of going a little off-piste and taking a taxi to the Monastery in Chartreuse (planning stages so that day would be shorter walk plus side trip to Chartreuse) - now wouldn't THAT be something if I can swing it?!

I Googled the monastery, and, yes! Looks amazing!

 

[BlackRocker57]

I have decided to embrace the power of extending my Camino by starting in Geneva! I will walk the Gebennensis AND the Podiensis - I think what finally decided me was I felt that at age 66 when I start, it is likely I will not have the chance to come this way again (although never say never), and I really welcome the opportunity for solitude in the first week on the Gebennensis and hopefully won't be disappointed in opportunities to meet others along the Podiensis way, even if they are French walkers on May holidays for part of it.

Although in my first Camino I didn't take a rest day, I think I will spend two nights in Le Puy to regroup a bit.

I am thinking of starting in mid-April - does that seem too early? I know you can never tell with weather but hoping it won't be too wet (or snowy?) those first weeks (Altus poncho to the rescue!). Start before or after Easter? Trying to figure out what towns I should not be walking to on a Sunday or other holiday and work backwards from there and make sure I pack in food in advance of places with limited resources.

Any thoughts on start days, or is it just such a wildcard it's best to just pick a date and hope for best, poncho-up for the worst?

Super excited!

Bonjour @CTLawGal a couple of things to keep in mind, esp. re GR65 Via Gebennensis ... if you are hoping to stay at hostels [gîtes d’étape] or other styles of accommodation and not planning to carry a tent and sleeping bag then you may want to buy the «Guide Jaune» guidebook, published by the Association Rhône-Alpes des Amis de Saint-Jacques [Friends of Saint-James] ... apart from all the other relevant and helpful information the guide includes contact details for the «Accueil Jacquaires», families and private individual who host hikers / walkers and pilgrims for overnight stays in their home with evening meal provided.

Here is the blurb from the association explaining les accueil jacquaires :
«... When pilgrims, particularly foreigners, pass through our region, they appreciate the quality of the signposting and the accommodation provided, the Accueils Jacquaires ARA ®.

This network of families welcoming pilgrims is quite exceptional and not very common in France (this principle can be found, in particular, in Brittany, on the Camino d'Arles, etc.).

It helps to preserve a certain spirit of the Pilgrim's Way to Santiago de Compostela.

Nearly 300 families in the Rhône Alpes region have volunteered to host an evening for pilgrims passing through on their credencials. The welcome is given in the form of a ‘donativo’ (free contribution to expenses), i.e. asking for nothing in the way of a financial contribution, but accepting whatever the pilgrim offers.

The Accueils Jacquaires ARA ® share the evening stopover at their home, while the hospitaliers receive pilgrims at a reception outside their home ...»

This is particularly helpful on this route, and more so out-of-season, as there is limited accommodation [gîtes d’étape, chambre d’hôtes, hotels, et al] on this path.

Guide Jaune – Boutique Amis de Saint Jacques

 

[CTLawGal]

Merci! Thank you so much for this information! I wasn't aware and am thankful I now have at least 6 months to learn more!

 

[Karen Landow]

I am starting to plan my second Camino, focusing on Le Puy (although a little tempted to return to the Norte/Primitivo/Fisterre of my first Camino in Spring 2023... maybe next time!).

I've started reading through the posts on Le Puy, lots of good material there! Trying to absorb it all. I am thinking about maybe starting on the GR65 in Geneva, which would add another 3 weeks (I think I'll be able to do Le Puy to SJPDP in about 32-33 days) and would love to hear from others who have combined the two. That would make it maybe 10 days more than my first Camino, so I think I should be able to do it, although I was extremely exhausted my last day and remember thinking it's a good thing today IS my last day, I don't think I could do more (but maybe it felt like that because I KNEW it was my last day?).

Should I stick with my original plan to start in Le Puy? Am I being greedy or too ambitious to try to add another 3 weeks?

For those who have walked both Norte/Primitivo and Geneva/Le Puy, how does it compare elevation gain wise? From what I can tell from the guidebooks, it looks like mostly a bit easier, more moderate than the Norte/Primitivo, a few long days with some elevation gain, but mostly moderate. Does that sound right?

I will be 66 in the spring and I speak French ( a little rusty, but have fond memories of my last Camino with entire days speaking only French with pilgrims who spoke no or limited English). I am female and walked by myself, I never felt unsafe on my last Camino; do those of you who have walked either or both of these routes think any particular precautions are in order?

I'm also trying to decide whether to start mid-April, or maybe 3rd week of April, not sure if starting in Geneva impacts timing decision. I appreciate that weather can be unpredictable so it's hard to second guess timing, but I also know that there are lots of French holidays during May. I don't mind the cold, but don't love torrential downpours, but am prepared to walk in both.

Thank you in advance for all advice! While I've responded to many posts, I think this is my first query! Everyone on this forum is so helpful!

Hi, My husband and I walked the Geneva camina to Le Puy and from there to SJPP last year. We loved the walk. We left Geneva on the 25th April and arrived in Le Puy on the 15th May, had some rest days then started the Le Puy Camino on the 18th May. We didn't realise until the day that the 18th was a public holiday for Ascension Day and so there were hoards of other pilgrims leaving the same time. I was VERY glad I had pre-booked the gites for the first two weeks.

We were really glad we started from Geneva as the via Gebenennsis (spelling doesn't look quite right) has been our favourite Camino out of the Frances, Portuguese, Le Puy and Norte. The trail was generally well marked, mostly off road, spectacular scenery and not many other people. We met a few single women walking it, a few couples and a few single men. A few days we didn't see any other pilgrims.
The weather was a mix of beautiful sunny days, a few cold, wet drizzly days but mostly dry days although recent rain had made some sections quite muddy. We loved walking it at this time of year as temperature was ideal for walking. Most of the churches and chapels were open and had stamps for our credentials.

The Le Puy camino was also beautiful, especially the first section to Conques which is also the most popular section. We did the Cele variant and were very glad we did as it was one of the highlights. One stage we hired a kayak and paddled it which was relaxing, beautiful and gave our legs a rest! I would strongly recommend you book accommodation in advance for the beginning of the Le Puy. Mostly I emailed the gites in French to request a reservation and used the demi-pension option if available.

We don't speak French although I did try to learn some for the walk. On the Geneva Camino there were mostly Swiss and Germans walking so there was more English spoken. Since you speak French you will really enjoy both the Geneva and Le Puy walks and you certainly won't be rusty by the time you get home.

I was 62 and my husband 66 last year when we started. We always planned at least one rest day a week which helped us with sustainability. Although both walks had their elevation challenges, I would think the Norte/Primitivo may be a little more difficult.

Hope this helps. Buon Camino.

 

[caminka]

I have decided to embrace the power of extending my Camino by starting in Geneva! I will walk the Gebennensis AND the Podiensis - I think what finally decided me was I felt that at age 66 when I start, it is likely I will not have the chance to come this way again (although never say never), and I really welcome the opportunity for solitude in the first week on the Gebennensis and hopefully won't be disappointed in opportunities to meet others along the Podiensis way, even if they are French walkers on May holidays for part of it.

Although in my first Camino I didn't take a rest day, I think I will spend two nights in Le Puy to regroup a bit.

I am thinking of starting in mid-April - does that seem too early? I know you can never tell with weather but hoping it won't be too wet (or snowy?) those first weeks (Altus poncho to the rescue!). Start before or after Easter? Trying to figure out what towns I should not be walking to on a Sunday or other holiday and work backwards from there and make sure I pack in food in advance of places with limited resources.

Any thoughts on start days, or is it just such a wildcard it's best to just pick a date and hope for best, poncho-up for the worst?

Super excited!

Hello! You have probably read my reports from my this year's via gebennensis, so I will just add this regarding the accommodation. There is a mix of gites d'etapes and family stays with some hotels/chambres d'hotes if you so wish. As you are planning to walk during the easter and may holidays, you should take into account that french also like to walk during those. Gites could therefore be full and families could be out and about on their own walks. Definitely reccommend le Puy for a rest day or two.
It is a lovely walk, not particularly strenuous, but does have some nastly descents. I probably wouldn't do it again, I would prefer to start in Lyon (or in Geneva and go via Voie de Nantua) because Lyon-le Puy-SJPP is probably still my favourite combination.

 

[caminka]

Merci! Thank you so much for this information! I wasn't aware and am thankful I now have at least 6 months to learn more!

Have you seen my via gebennensis resource here on the forum? It lists places in Geneva where you can buy the guidebook, too, if you are not ordering it in advance.

 

[CTLawGal]

Hi, My husband and I walked the Geneva camina to Le Puy and from there to SJPP last year. We loved the walk. We left Geneva on the 25th April and arrived in Le Puy on the 15th May, had some rest days then started the Le Puy Camino on the 18th May. We didn't realise until the day that the 18th was a public holiday for Ascension Day and so there were hoards of other pilgrims leaving the same time. I was VERY glad I had pre-booked the gites for the first two weeks.

We were really glad we started from Geneva as the via Gebenennsis (spelling doesn't look quite right) has been our favourite Camino out of the Frances, Portuguese, Le Puy and Norte. The trail was generally well marked, mostly off road, spectacular scenery and not many other people. We met a few single women walking it, a few couples and a few single men. A few days we didn't see any other pilgrims.
The weather was a mix of beautiful sunny days, a few cold, wet drizzly days but mostly dry days although recent rain had made some sections quite muddy. We loved walking it at this time of year as temperature was ideal for walking. Most of the churches and chapels were open and had stamps for our credentials.

The Le Puy camino was also beautiful, especially the first section to Conques which is also the most popular section. We did the Cele variant and were very glad we did as it was one of the highlights. One stage we hired a kayak and paddled it which was relaxing, beautiful and gave our legs a rest! I would strongly recommend you book accommodation in advance for the beginning of the Le Puy. Mostly I emailed the gites in French to request a reservation and used the demi-pension option if available.

We don't speak French although I did try to learn some for the walk. On the Geneva Camino there were mostly Swiss and Germans walking so there was more English spoken. Since you speak French you will really enjoy both the Geneva and Le Puy walks and you certainly won't be rusty by the time you get home.

I was 62 and my husband 66 last year when we started. We always planned at least one rest day a week which helped us with sustainability. Although both walks had their elevation challenges, I would think the Norte/Primitivo may be a little more difficult.

Hope this helps. Buon Camino.

Thank you so much for taking the time to describe your journey! I've really wanted to do this one, but after starting to book it I have to admit I have had a few anxious nights worrying that maybe I've bitten off more than I can chew; I now feel so much better! Thanks also for the comparison to the Norte - I am now feeling like if I could handle the elevation gains on the Norte, I can handle this. Phew!. Sounds just perfect for me, exactly what I hoped - beautiful, some others walking, but not too many. You started a little more than week after my intended start, so that's somewhat reassuring - although weather is always the biggest variable.

I am wondering if you used any GPS programs to check the route (and make sure you hadn't taken a wrong turn)? I used Buen Camino for my first Camino and found it helpful and reassuring, especially when I had missed the Camino markings and wandered off the path; I know I can use it for the Le Puy portion, but not on the Gebennensis. I've started exploring Gronze (and posted some queries on it separately), but am still not sure how to download maps so I don't have to worry about connectivity in more remote areas....

I am super excited about this, thanks again for helping me push aside some of the remaining anxiety about undertaking a less traveled route!

 

[CTLawGal]

Have you seen my via gebennensis resource here on the forum? It lists places in Geneva where you can buy the guidebook, too, if you are not ordering it in advance.

yes! thank you! So helpful!

 

[caminka]

the whole via gebennensis is on mapy.cz which you can download and use in offline mode.
the whole route is pretty well waymarked with the standard french GR red-and-white slashes and also with small blue stickers with a yellow scallop. if in doubt, follow the stickers.

 

[CTLawGal]

prefer to start in Lyon (or in Geneva and go via Voie de Nantua) because Lyon-le Puy-SJPP is probably still my favourite combination

Interesting! Hmmm.... that was my original thought, start in Lyon and maybe also try to do ALL of the variants, circling back..... Maybe next time! Feeling committed to a Geneva start this time, for some reason

I had been thinking of flying into Amsterdam to spend a few days there getting used to the time change and enjoying the tulip fields, but the recent anti-semitic progroms there have given me pause, so I may fly into Lyon and enjoy a few days there instead - I was in Geneva about 3 years ago, not seeing a reason to spend more than a day there before I begin....

 

[Karen Landow]

Thank you so much for taking the time to describe your journey! I've really wanted to do this one, but after starting to book it I have to admit I have had a few anxious nights worrying that maybe I've bitten off more than I can chew; I now feel so much better! Thanks also for the comparison to the Norte - I am now feeling like if I could handle the elevation gains on the Norte, I can handle this. Phew!. Sounds just perfect for me, exactly what I hoped - beautiful, some others walking, but not too many. You started a little more than week after my intended start, so that's somewhat reassuring - although weather is always the biggest variable.

I am wondering if you used any GPS programs to check the route (and make sure you hadn't taken a wrong turn)? I used Buen Camino for my first Camino and found it helpful and reassuring, especially when I had missed the Camino markings and wandered off the path; I know I can use it for the Le Puy portion, but not on the Gebennensis. I've started exploring Gronze (and posted some queries on it separately), but am still not sure how to download maps so I don't have to worry about connectivity in more remote areas....

I am super excited about this, thanks again for helping me push aside some of the remaining anxiety about undertaking a less traveled route!

Hi, I used Gronze initially to plan our stages with the route map and to help with choosing accom. I used the Hiiker app 'Geneva Camino-St John Pied du Port' which provided my GPS location so I could check we were on the right path or consult if we were unsure which direction to go. Also used Google maps to find our accommodation or to check distance to next town. Unfortunately we didn't have the recommended 'Yellow Guide Book' as it had not arrived in the post before we left Australia. We should have taken the time to buy one in Geneva as most other walkers had a copy and it contained a much more comprehensive list of hostels for pilgrims and walkers than Gronze.
For the Le Puy camino I found the Miam Miam Do Do guide book useful for choosing gites and their contact info. I bought the online e-book so I didn't have to carry it. Also used wise pilgrim app and Gronze.