Municipal albergues' WiFi-Camino not working for most pilgrims

[paakaminska]

So, many of the cheap municipal albergues offer the same wifi network across the country available on all routes. But that network just doesn't work for most people.

My first question is, why do they offer something faulty? I hope they replace it with something better soon.

My second question is, has anyone actually managed to get it work? One albergue manager was very tech-savvy and he played with the authentication certificates on my phone but he still didn't manage to make it work. So I kept playing with the phone number registration that some albergues recommend. But I'm still getting nowhere as my phone throws authentication errors.



Btw. I'm using Google Pixel 6, so a popular phone.

Thanks in advance for solid solutions to the problem.

 

[Tincatinker]

So, many of the cheap municipal albergues offer the same wifi network across the country available on all routes. But that network just doesn't work for most people.

My first question is, why do they offer something faulty? I hope they replace it with something better soon.

My second question is, has anyone actually managed to get it work? One albergue manager was very tech-savvy and he played with the authentication certificates on my phone but he still didn't manage to make it work. So I kept playing with the phone number registration that some albergues recommend. But I'm still getting nowhere as my phone throws authentication errors.



Btw. I'm using Google Pixel 6, so a popular phone.

Thanks in advance for solid solutions to the problem.

Try staying in a more expensive private Albergue with a more robust wee-fee network

 

[alexwalker]

Talk to each other?

 

[Bradypus]

Worked for me on the Portugues and the Ingles a couple of months ago.

 

[GPeachy]

It might be worth it to get a SIM card. This worked well for me. For example, Orange offers one that gives you 100GB for 20 Euro for 28 days. Vodafone has a number of options from 100GB for 15 Euro for 28 days up to 190GB for 40 Euro for 28 days. I'm sure the other Spanish cell carriers offer similar plans.

 

[paakaminska]

Talk to each other?

Can you specify? Do you mean speaking more with the albergue managers? Often there's a language barrier and they're not techy enough to help me.

Today WiFi would be particularly useful as I have to check in for my flight back, amend my bus booking and block my currency card that a Spanish ATM decided to swallow... My roaming caps my usage to 5GB per month which turns out to be too little. Probably all these maps like gronze and buen camino need a lot of data.

 

[dougfitz]

I never had a problem connecting in Xunta albergues on the CP (2022 and 2023) and Sanabres (2023).

 

[Tincatinker]

Can you specify? Do you mean speaking more with the albergue managers? Often there's a language barrier and they're not techy enough to help me.

Today WiFi would be particularly useful as I have to check in for my flight back, amend my bus booking and block my currency card that a Spanish ATM decided to swallow... My roaming caps my usage to 5GB per month which turns out to be too little. Probably all these maps like gronze and buen camino need a lot of data.

@paakaminska I'm sorry you are having connectivity issues, particularly as you appear to need internet access to sort out some problems. You may find that one of the local bars will have open access wifi that will enable your immediate needs.

From what I can see the network that you are trying to connect to isn't provided by the "cheap" albergues. Why would they. It is provided by a secondary provider (piggy backing on national networks) and reliant on band-width on the local mobile phone networks. I think the security settings on your phone are denying you access, not the network. You could try to contact your normal service provider and see if you can bump your data provision but I'm sure they'll charge you an arm and a leg. Living in the UK I use GifGaf and some 2Gb a month which covers me for all caminos, mapping apps, photos to the grand children and more. I know this isn't helpful now but downloading required maps to your phone once makes for a much more economic use of data than accessing repeatedly in "live".

Buena suerte / good luck

 

[henrythedog]

The word ‘cheap’ is doing some heavy lifting here.

 

[Tincatinker]

@paakaminska find a lively bar and try "¿Tienes weefee que pueda usar? tengo una urgencia.."

 

[alexwalker]

Can you specify? Do you mean speaking more with the albergue managers? Often there's a language barrier and they're not techy enough to help me.

Joking, partly. Talk to the person next to you instead of to your phone. I am old school, I know.

Today WiFi would be particularly useful as I have to check in for my flight back, amend my bus booking and block my currency card that a Spanish ATM decided to swallow... My roaming caps my usage to 5GB per month which turns out to be too little. Probably all these maps like gronze and buen camino need a lot of data.

I understand. Speaking as a long-time (+40 years) IT engineer, I would be very careful using WiFi networks, especially those open ones. Lots of fraud/password/info snapping going on these days. AI makes it even worse/more dangerous.

Personally, I always connect via my phone subscription instead. I pay the same as when home, being a citizen inside the EU/Europe.

Today WiFi would be particularly useful as I have to check in for my flight back, amend my bus booking and block my currency card that a Spanish ATM decided to swallow... My roaming caps my usage to 5GB per month which turns out to be too little. Probably all these maps like gronze and buen camino need a lot of data.

Never use an ATM not connected to an open bank office. That way you can go inside and claim your card back. And never use blue and yellow ATMs from Euronet: They are thiefs disguised as money providers, due to hefty commissions.

Always choose local currency (€), not conversion: Conversion will cost you several € extra to get your own money.

Turn off constant updates of your apps. Apps like the WisePilgrim guide apps will allow you to operate offline with maps, whistles, and full package. All you need. Check your phone's "Battery" menu point to find out what app(s) are stealing your phone power.

Buen Camino!

 

[paakaminska]

Speaking as a long-time (+40 years) IT engineer, I would be very careful using WiFi networks, especially those open ones. Lots of fraud/password/info snapping going on these days.

A too long time ago to know about VPN?

Never use an ATM not connected to an open bank office. That way you can go inside and claim your card back.

That was an emergency. It was inconvenient to find an ATM but I needed the cash asap to pay for accommodation. It was already late. After I lost one card, I went to the ATM next door and used my £ card. Risky I know but what were the chances of losing both cards at the same time

Check your phone's "Battery" menu point to find out what app(s) are stealing your phone power.

That's a good tip. I'm actually on Extreme Battery Saver, meaning, I had to intentionally choose which apps I actually use and all the rest is paused.

never use blue and yellow ATMs from Euronet

I know I once lost £16 when I used them to withdraw mere €50...

 

[alexwalker]

A too long time ago to know about VPN?

Careful, woman. Careful.

 

[henrythedog]

@paakaminska find a lively bar and try "¿Tienes weefee que pueda usar? tengo una urgencia.."

Nice use of the subjunctive there. The standard of spanish on here is certainly improving.

 

[alexwalker]

A too long time ago to know about VPN?

My point is that most people today are only interested in getting into a Wifi connection, protected or not. No clue about VPN and security. They do not know all the dangers, and how to protect themselves. I may dive into that opportunity myself: Easy money.

Edit: Just this week there was an article about a person who was setting up a fraudulent Wifi server network on board a plane(!), being able to tap personal info from passangers who thought they were logging onto the plane's network (very similar Wifi name). Forgot where I read the article, unfortunately.

 

[jerbear]

I usually blame wifi, when I am the one at fault. Have a nice day!

 

[Peter Fransiscus]

Can you specify? Do you mean speaking more with the albergue managers?

No , talk with other Pilgrims

 

[Harington]

Talk to each other?

It’s so easy to reply glibly. But if you’re far from home and need to be in contact you need wifi.

 

[stewinyvr]

My point is that most people today are only interested in getting into a Wifi connection, protected or not. No clue about VPN and security. They do not know all the dangers, and how to protect themselves. I may dive into that opportunity myself: Easy money.

Edit: Just this week there was an article about a person who was setting up a fraudulent Wifi server network on board a plane(!), being able to tap personal info from passangers who thought they were logging onto the plane's network (very similar Wifi name). Forgot where I read the article, unfortunately.

It may have been this article..I saw it in a few places..
Australian setting up fake flight wifi

 

[MarianneF]

So, many of the cheap municipal albergues offer the same wifi network across the country available on all routes. But that network just doesn't work for most people.

My first question is, why do they offer something faulty? I hope they replace it with something better soon.

My second question is, has anyone actually managed to get it work? One albergue manager was very tech-savvy and he played with the authentication certificates on my phone but he still didn't manage to make it work. So I kept playing with the phone number registration that some albergues recommend. But I'm still getting nowhere as my phone throws authentication errors.

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Btw. I'm using Google Pixel 6, so a popular phone.

Thanks in advance for solid solutions to the problem.

Buy a Sim card. It is cheap and safer than using "open" WiFi. I used Lycamobile and it worked in Portugal and Spain. Modern phones have e-sim. Even cheaper!!

 

[LTfit]

Finished the Sanabrés 2 days ago and the Xunta Red never worked for me. The Spanish also could not connect to it. I went through the registration process but never received a password. Oh well. Since I have a Dutch Sim card I have no extra cost in using roaming within the EU.

 

[good_old_shoes]

Can't remember ever having a problem with the WiFi in the municipals. And I stayed at many, many of them several times.

It's am amazing service that they offer it at all, at the low prices they have.

If there's no wifi or it doesn't work and I really need it, I use my mobile data.

If that doesn't work either, I go to a bar, order something, and use their WiFi (ask for the password if it isn't indicated somewhere).

If you don't really need the WiFi then as Alexwalker said, just talk to your fellow pilgrims, the hospitaleros, and the locals.
Or read your guide book, write a journal, cook a meal, go see the town, ect.

 

[paakaminska]

I usually blame wifi, when I am the one at fault. Have a nice day!

Sorry, I don't understand. Can you kindly elaborate please?

 

[dougfitz]

But if you’re far from home and need to be in contact you need wifi.

Really? WiFi is certainly an option, but not the only one. Depending on what you need, a standard mobile service would be the first that comes to mind, followed by any of the VOIP services using a mobile data service. That would also support other types of internet activity.
Relying on free WiFi is fine if the matter isn't critical, but if it is, you might want something more certain than that.