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JohnnieWalker: I tried the link but it didn't work. Is it me? Is there an alternative? Thanks!
Me too, Joe
Buen Camino
Great information...and thanks. Any info re: months when they walked their Caminos? Buen Camino to all in this new year.
Ireland and UK difference in percentage of population due to more Catholics in Ireland maybe?
but it would also be interesting to know what countries have the greatest per capita representation. NZ has almost as many pilgrims as teeming China...and India's way down the list if you consider its representation relative to its population.Yes the country with a 'gross national happiness'. Hmm, Hopefully one does not need to be miserable or neurotic to walk the Camino or we'd all be in trouble.I have never visited Bhutan but according to what I have read about the country it does not surprise me that they are not in the list - they may have no need for it.
Hi Donna, I noticed that there are two other western Pacific island nations/countries that are not included. They are the Federated States of Micronesia (FSM) and the Republic of the Marshall Islands (RMI). Both are independent countries in their own right and as such are members of the United Nations. An online population data search a few minutes ago revealed 103,549 for FSM and 52,634 for RMI as of 2013. As you may know these two countries are similar to the Republic of Palau who showed 12 pilgrims in 2015 in that all three were formerly part of the United Nations Trust Territory of the Pacific Islands (UNTTPI) along with the Northern Marianas at the end of World War II. A similar population data search for Palau revealed 20,918. So there were 12 pilgrims from Palau with a much smaller population than either FSM or RMI. Of course since the Northern Marianas became part of the U.S. in the mid-1970s, any pilgrims from there would most likely be part of the U.S. numbers In that regard, I was surprised to see Guam listed separately from the U.S. when Guam is a part of the U.S. (If there were pilgrims from Puerto Rico, would the authorities at the Cathedral list them as Puerto Rico or include them as part of the U.S.? Of course, both the Northern Marianas and Puerto Rico are Commonwealths and part of the U.S.) I should also point out that the FSM and RMI transitioned out of the UNTTPI status and became independent in 1986 and Palau took that same action in 1994. I am familiar with these matters because I am a retired U.S. diplomat who worked directly in the U.S. relationship with FSM, RMI and Palau as late as 2013.
@fraluchi , I'm afraid I don't understand these numbers. Would you mind clarifying? Nor can I find the satats for 2015 on the site, only by month, or for years stopping In 2013. What am I doing wrong?OK, the website to check is www.peregrinossantiago.es ... the Portugués increased by 22% (21%), the Primitivo by 28% (22%), the Inglés by 29% (64%), the Norte by 5% (13%). The VdlP increased by 5% (- 5%) Take your conclusions!
The new Pilgrims' Office will no doubt be busy in 2016.
Oops!!!! Sorry to disagree - at the end of every speech made by recent Presidents of the U.S. They end it with "God Bless America"!!!!!!
Well, we use " Country of residence" and not our nationality! Considering that I have lived outside my country for more than 50 years and it's fairly well represented in the statistics, I chose to give credit to our country of residence. A country just overThat question may be impossible to answer
My turn to ooops, that is exactly what I was refering to regarding Americans the common refernce to religion. I meant to say that in Canada you do not hear that, and I suspect their would be a hissy fit if anyone tried it.
Yes it would. Unfortunately it takes ages to get the stats off the website into a format that can be analysed! I did attempt to break down the growth in the overall pilgrim numbers between 2009 and 2014 to see what was driving it. What stood out was that the growth was driven almost exclusively by Sarria and SJPP starters. (Some of the increase for SJPP may have been tempted away from Roncesvalles, where the numbers fell significantly.) The numbers starting anywhere else were pretty static. Hence the Camino Frances became more polarised between long and short Caminos. To some extent these will cancel each other out if you calculate an average distance walked. It does mean that the increase in pilgrims passing through somewhere in the middle of the route (eg Sahagun) is much less dramatic than somewhere shortly after SJPP or those arriving in Santiago.
Sorry - got this message:
That is all we see too.
Yes, I see what you mean now. I reread your posting!
Spain don't recognize Kosovo as state. For other side, Yugoslavia appear in the list and don't exist...
He's missed mentioning both Syria and Egypt where we lived several years!In the Pilgrims' Statistics I should appear under Costa Rica residence (not to be confused with Puerto Rico) where I live since 18 years. My nationality is of the Netherlands (Holland) which I left 68 years ago (at age 10). Among other countries, I've lived 18 years in Switzerland, 20 years in Italy, several years in Belgium, France, England, Germany, Spain, etc. so that in fact my origin is predominantly European, more recently with a Latin tinge.
The only exception I saw to that general rule was that every person who gave the nationality "Catalan" (and there were quite a few) was placed in the Spanish category.
@Viranani we walked with two Nepalese ladies in May
The only exception I saw to that general rule was that every person who gave the nationality "Catalan" (and there were quite a few) was placed in the Spanish category.
I wouldn't exactly call the RMI and FSM 'independent,' since they are almost totally dependent on U.S. Compact dollars and enjoy visa privileges to work in the United States - which benefits, assuming they are not exploited by recruiters and end up indentured - many of their citizens, who, unfortunately, can't share in the wealth of a relative few - but they are 'sovereign.'
For Spanish pilgrims there is the mention of the autonomous regions. Cataluña is (still) one of them.The only exception I saw to that general rule was that every person who gave the nationality "Catalan" (and there were quite a few) was placed in the Spanish category.
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Our 3 political leaders are church goers? I had no idea. I think part of the interest in the Camino in Quebec comes from the fact that 3 great walks start in France: Le Puy, Vezelay, Arles, and we speak French! Those guides have been around forever in our bookstores. Many will only walk those Caminos never crossing into Spain. And yes, many people of retired age are a product of a time when the Catholic Church had quite a firm grip on the Quebec population. I have been to a few presentations by pilgrims of different routes and have been surprised by the religious component of their pilgrimage. But then one has to remember that the 50s were not that long ago.
Speak French? Well, sort of
. In our outback we have TV5 showing French Canadian films with ..... French undertitles. I often have a hard time understanding Québecois with their speak, which they call "French".
Thanks John. Noted. If you see this, are the numbers up or down from 2014. There seem to be, from memory, fewer Germans. I see the minority Caminos are still at less than one percent.
