Nearly Half a Million on the Frances....but....

[TorontoGMan]

.....how many actually walk the entire Frances?
Are there any numbers on this?
Kinda thought there would be more on the sign-ups. Is this because the Europeans pilgrims wouldn't be on this English-speaking site?

 

[Bradypus]

Your number seems a bit large. The Compostela total for last year for ALL Caminos was about 438,000. The largest annual total ever. Of that about 227,000 were from the Camino Frances but most only in the section from Sarria. I'm not clear what you mean by "the entire Frances" but the pilgrim office statistics page will give you numbers who started at key points like SJPDP, Roncesvalles and Pamplona.

Estadísticas | Oficina del Peregrino. Santiago de Compostela

oficinadelperegrino.com

 

[Bradypus]

Kinda thought there would be more on the sign-ups. Is this because the Europeans pilgrims wouldn't be on this English-speaking site?

sign-ups? You mean here on the forum? It would never cross my mind to post my Camino plans here and I think the vast majority of Camino walkers never register their intentions anywhere in advance of their arrival at their departure point. Even then registering with the pilgrim office in SJPDP is entirely voluntary.

 

[Marc S.]

Kinda thought there would be more on the sign-ups. Is this because the Europeans pilgrims wouldn't be on this English-speaking site?

Not sure if I understand you correctly. Only a very very small percentage of the total numbers of pilgrims announce this on this forum, so the number of sign-ups does not say very much.

Btw There are many European pilgrims participating on this forum, as this in an international forum. But us Europeans are a funny lot. Some of us, even those who are not from the UK, actually speak English.

 

[C clearly]

Kinda thought there would be more on the sign-ups. Is this because the Europeans pilgrims wouldn't be on this English-speaking site?

Are you looking at the number of Forum members, or the monthly check-in threads, as indicators of number of people walking the Frances? Those are absolutely not good clues, for a number of reasons:

• Most (probably about 75%) pilgrims are not from English speaking countries. Of course, many others do speak English, but they may prefer to use the many information sources in their language.
• Of English speaking pilgrims, many are completely unaware of this Forum
• Of those who do get information from the forum, most do not bother to join.
• Only a tiny percentage of forum members post their plans on one of the monthly starting threads. It is just a place where those members who want to, can post their plans.

 

[Sho]

I don't use forum sign-ups and since I may be walking in segments, I wouldn't be alerting a pilgrim office or getting a new credencial each time.

 

[WisTom]

I stopped at the Pilgrim's Office last Monday with the idea of reporting my arrival for statistical purposes, not because I wanted another Compostela. I had walked the Mozárabe and San Salvador before finishing on the Primitivo to Santiago. They told me they only record how one arrives in Santiago - the final camino. They had no way to note that I had also walked the Mozárabe or that I had connected to the Primitivo from the San Salvador. A bar owner on the Mozárabe between Córdoba and Mérida said he thought 700-1000 people walk through his town each year. No one seems to know.

 

[MacMac]

English is a European language.

 

[oursonpolaire]

English is a European language.

Thank the Irish for that.

 

[TorontoGMan]

hahahah! Okay Europeans, okay!!
I'm sure you heard this one:
"In Italian you sing.
In English you write.
In German, you negotiate.
In French, you love,
and in Spanish, you pray."
(from a Spanish King apparently!)

 

[Kathor1]

hahahah! Okay Europeans, okay!!
I'm sure you heard this one:
"In Italian you sing.
In English you write.
In German, you negotiate.
In French, you love,
and in Spanish, you pray."
(from a Spanish King apparently!)

That sounds like a rather liberal interpretation of what Charles V supposedly once said.

Charles V was King of Spain (Castille and Aragon), King of Germany, King of Italy and Holy Roman Emporer. He spoke French (the language of the aristocracy in Flanders where he was born and grew up), Latin and Dutch, knew some German and had to start learning Spanish when he was 17.

No English, apparently.



PS: His full title, according to the EN Wikipedia:

Charles, by the grace of God, Emperor of the Romans, forever August, King in (of) Germany, King of Italy, King of all Spains, of Castile, Aragon, León, of Hungary, of Dalmatia, of Croatia, Navarra, Grenada, Toledo, Valencia, Galicia, Majorca, Sevilla, Cordova, Murcia, Jaén, Algarves, Algeciras, Gibraltar, the Canary Islands, King of both Hither and Ultra Sicily, of Sardinia, Corsica, King of Jerusalem, King of the Indies, of the Islands and Mainland of the Ocean Sea, Archduke of Austria, Duke of Burgundy, Brabant, Lorraine, Styria, Carinthia, Carniola, Limburg, Luxembourg, Gelderland, Neopatria, Württemberg, Landgrave of Alsace, Prince of Swabia, Asturia and Catalonia, Count of Flanders, Habsburg, Tyrol, Gorizia, Barcelona, Artois, Burgundy Palatine, Hainaut, Holland, Seeland, Ferrette, Kyburg, Namur, Roussillon, Cerdagne, Drenthe, Zutphen, Margrave of the Holy Roman Empire, Burgau, Oristano and Gociano, Lord of Frisia, the Wendish March, Pordenone, Biscay, Molin, Salins, Tripoli and Mechelen.

 

[Kathor1]

Charles, by the grace of God, …

Btw, the long list of titles quoted in the previous post is how the edict starts that was issued by Charles V in 1521. You know, Luther. The Diet of Worms. Always so hilarious in English.

Ah, words and languages. But we are drifting … what is this thread about … oh yes, half a million but …

 

[David Tallan]

That sounds like a rather liberal interpretation of what Charles V supposedly once said.

Charles V was King of Spain (Castille and Aragon), King of Germany, King of Italy and Holy Roman Emporer. He spoke French (the language of the aristocracy in Flanders where he was born and grew up), Latin and Dutch, knew some German and had to start learning Spanish when he was 17.

No English, apparently.



PS: His full title, according to the EN Wikipedia:

Charles, by the grace of God, Emperor of the Romans, forever August, King in (of) Germany, King of Italy, King of all Spains, of Castile, Aragon, León, of Hungary, of Dalmatia, of Croatia, Navarra, Grenada, Toledo, Valencia, Galicia, Majorca, Sevilla, Cordova, Murcia, Jaén, Algarves, Algeciras, Gibraltar, the Canary Islands, King of both Hither and Ultra Sicily, of Sardinia, Corsica, King of Jerusalem, King of the Indies, of the Islands and Mainland of the Ocean Sea, Archduke of Austria, Duke of Burgundy, Brabant, Lorraine, Styria, Carinthia, Carniola, Limburg, Luxembourg, Gelderland, Neopatria, Württemberg, Landgrave of Alsace, Prince of Swabia, Asturia and Catalonia, Count of Flanders, Habsburg, Tyrol, Gorizia, Barcelona, Artois, Burgundy Palatine, Hainaut, Holland, Seeland, Ferrette, Kyburg, Namur, Roussillon, Cerdagne, Drenthe, Zutphen, Margrave of the Holy Roman Empire, Burgau, Oristano and Gociano, Lord of Frisia, the Wendish March, Pordenone, Biscay, Molin, Salins, Tripoli and Mechelen.

Interesting where Barcelona comes in the list, so far from the other Spanish locations.

 

[Rex]

That sounds like a rather liberal interpretation of what Charles V supposedly once said.

Charles V was King of Spain (Castille and Aragon), King of Germany, King of Italy and Holy Roman Emporer. He spoke French (the language of the aristocracy in Flanders where he was born and grew up), Latin and Dutch, knew some German and had to start learning Spanish when he was 17.

No English, apparently.



PS: His full title, according to the EN Wikipedia:

Charles, by the grace of God, Emperor of the Romans, forever August, King in (of) Germany, King of Italy, King of all Spains, of Castile, Aragon, León, of Hungary, of Dalmatia, of Croatia, Navarra, Grenada, Toledo, Valencia, Galicia, Majorca, Sevilla, Cordova, Murcia, Jaén, Algarves, Algeciras, Gibraltar, the Canary Islands, King of both Hither and Ultra Sicily, of Sardinia, Corsica, King of Jerusalem, King of the Indies, of the Islands and Mainland of the Ocean Sea, Archduke of Austria, Duke of Burgundy, Brabant, Lorraine, Styria, Carinthia, Carniola, Limburg, Luxembourg, Gelderland, Neopatria, Württemberg, Landgrave of Alsace, Prince of Swabia, Asturia and Catalonia, Count of Flanders, Habsburg, Tyrol, Gorizia, Barcelona, Artois, Burgundy Palatine, Hainaut, Holland, Seeland, Ferrette, Kyburg, Namur, Roussillon, Cerdagne, Drenthe, Zutphen, Margrave of the Holy Roman Empire, Burgau, Oristano and Gociano, Lord of Frisia, the Wendish March, Pordenone, Biscay, Molin, Salins, Tripoli and Mechelen.

Any truth to the rumor his friends just called him Chuck?

 

[danielle aird]

Your number seems a bit large. The Compostela total for last year for ALL Caminos was about 438,000. The largest annual total ever. Of that about 227,000 were from the Camino Frances but most only in the section from Sarria. I'm not clear what you mean by "the entire Frances" but the pilgrim office statistics page will give you numbers who started at key points like SJPDP, Roncesvalles and Pamplona.

Estadísticas | Oficina del Peregrino. Santiago de Compostela

oficinadelperegrino.com

there are also those like me who walk it, don't register at St-Jean and don't get a compostela because they have already done it and got one compostela.

 

[David Tallan]

there are also those like me who walk it, don't register at St-Jean and don't get a compostela because they have already done it and got one compostela.

Or those like me who didn't get a Compostela on my first Camino (because it wasn't about that) but did get one on my second Camino (without registering at St. Jean, which really has nothing to do with getting a Compostela).