biloute
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- Nov 17, 2013
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- Time of past OR future Camino
- Chemin du Puy & Camino Francés (summer 2014), Chemin du Puy & Camino Francés (possible summer 2019)
Who said I’m writing nonfiction? I’m not Catholic, but that has no bearing on what I might write, or even who might walk the Camino. It’s called research.What you need is a missal. I no longer have mine but they used to be in every household so that all Catholics could know the daily readings for the church.
Kim uncertain what purpose it can serve you to include this in your creative non-fiction if you did not have an awareness of the basic liturgical traditions of the church at the time you arrived in SdC. why not write that you had no idea that each day brings a specific and known reading to every practicing Catholic and that the psalms are specific to each day but common across every parish? It seems more honest than writing backward significance onto a tradition that was outside your frame of reference.
Fine. It’s creative something, but to write about a Catholic mass without this fundamental understanding is going to go over like a lead balloon.Who said I’m writing nonfiction? I’m not Catholic, but that has no bearing on what I might write, or even who might walk the Camino. It’s called research.
THe basic answer is that yes, there is a standard Roman Catholic Mass format, including music, prayers, readings, a Eucharist rite, etc. Each day of the year has specific readings from the Old Testament, Psalms and New Testament (Gospel Reading). There is a three year cycle,so that if one went to Mass every single day, one would hear the entire Bible in 3 years (years A, B, and C). Of course, there is also what we call the "homily" analogous to "sermon" in other faiths, which is what the presiding priest wishes to preach on that day. You can easily google something like "catholic daily liturgical readings 2018" if you want to see a specific day's reading. The basic format for a Mass is the same the world over, and you can also find the various "parts" of the Mass and explanations about each online as well. It's a pretty big topic ....and I've been a liturgical musician for 30 years, and still have to look lots of stuff up!Is there a particular script for a pilgrim mass? I’m thinking of including one or two in my Nanowrimo book this year, but I’m not sure if the priests have a standard script that they all use or if it’s just whatever they want to say.
Is there a particular script for a pilgrim mass? I’m thinking of including one or two in my Nanowrimo book this year, but I’m not sure if the priests have a standard script that they all use or if it’s just whatever they want to say.
I think that part is called sermon or homily. See the recent thread on Sermon at the pilgrim mass in Santiago. Seems a lot of people don't understand a word as it's in Spanish but sort of know what it's about . As you have poetic licence you can include something along the lines of we are all pilgrims on earth or your camino begins at home (after your return).I had thought that mass for a gathering of pilgrims might be a little different in wording at some point, where the priest might say something about the journey. Otherwise why specify that a mass is a pilgrim mass, as I heard along the Camino?
Not about a druid in ancient times, just one of the main characters (not the protagonist). There are druids now, and I’ve been doing research on that. There was a druid revival in the 18th century, and the neo-pagan community in general is growing with everything from Wicca to druidry to people praying to Odin. I thought it would be interesting to have a character of a totally different background who is also on a spiritual journey, but to Finisterre. And I think what I’m looking for would be a pilgrim-specific homily, though I’d only use a line or two. Trying to work in an entire mass would be a bit boring/tedious in a novel, especially since the focus is the character’s inner journey.I think that part is called sermon or homily. See the recent thread on Sermon at the pilgrim mass in Santiago. Seems a lot of people don't understand a word as it's in Spanish but sort of know what it's about . As you have poetic licence you can include something along the lines of we are all pilgrims on earth or your camino begins at home (after your return).
PS: I'm a bit puzzled, I thought your Nanowrimo story is about a druid in ancient times?
PPS: The custom of shaking hands and wishing peace to those around you at the end of service - mentioned in the linked thread - is something that you can encounter in many Christian churches these days, not only in Catholic ones.
Okay, what I’m understanding is that every single mass follows the same script that doesn’t really deviate, and what is said only depends on the date? I had thought that mass for a gathering of pilgrims might be a little different in wording at some point, where the priest might say something about the journey. Otherwise why specify that a mass is a pilgrim mass, as I heard along the Camino?
That would be great! Thanks!At the Burgos Cathedral, I picked up a little booklet called Mass for Pilgrim. It was in 8 different languages I believe. If that is something you would like, I can make a PDF of it for you.
I think the blessing would be closest to what I was thinking of. I didn’t go to the early morning mass in Le Puy, but I remember others who did saying that the priest asked where they were all from and gave them a blessing or prayer or something. I stumbled across a blessing this morning while googling, and I may use part of that. It seemed to be kind of like a poem.If I remember correctly there are always several priests of various countries “officiating”(?) together in the pilgrims’ mass in Santiago and they individually address pilgrims of their country in their language which is quite moving as oursonpolaire said. Don’t they also give a pilgrims’ blessing at the end of mass in Santiago? I cannot remember. You certainly get that frequently along the various caminos.
*snip* I probably only remember that because I thought he might be having a bad day. He said something about “and those who started in Sarria, for whom the paper means so much.” Seemed a bit bitter for a priest to say at mass, even if it’s partially true. I’m sure those people exist, but they’re not the majority.
I will do it this weekend and let you know when it is done!That would be great! Thanks!
You need an Ordinario de la Misa available in most churches of larger cities.Is there a particular script for a pilgrim mass? I’m thinking of including one or two in my Nanowrimo book this year, but I’m not sure if the priests have a standard script that they all use or if it’s just whatever they want to say.