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Hey Max. I’m sympathetic to Mrs. Helado’s predicament. Finding a good fitting shoe is an important challenge for her upcoming Camino. I’ve worn trail running shoes on two Caminos and have been very pleased with the comfort they offered. However, it took a trip to a store specializing in running shoes where I could try on various wide-fit shoes before I knew which one was best for me. In addition, I was also fitted for a pair of Super-feet insoles. So, although the shoes that I’ve worn twice worked well for me, it’s because they fit my feet. I think Mrs. Helodo would be best served by visiting a store with professionals who can fit her properly.Mrs Helado is insistent that what she needs for her next Camino is a pair of wide-fit, Gore-tex, trail shoes.
Mrs Helado is very specific.
Hours spent googling have so far brought no joy.
Any ideas?
Hi-tec boots and shoes are wide fitting. Some styles available in Cotswold outdoor and Millets. I think Hi-tec also do mail order online and you can check out the full rangeMrs Helado is insistent that what she needs for her next Camino is a pair of wide-fit, Gore-tex, trail shoes.
Mrs Helado is very specific.
Hours spent googling have so far brought no joy.
Any ideas?
Hi, Flog, I looked briefly and can only see this as a man's shoe? I can't tell if you are recommending as a male or as a female or non-binary?I'm on my third pair (and ordered my fourth) of Meindl Journey Pros. Not a trail running shoe and not cheap, but a wide fit, all round hiking shoe. Most comfortable I've ever owned, would recommend..
I just looked: Yes, they come in both women's and men's sizes. Google away..Hi, Flog, I looked briefly and can only see this as a man's shoe? I can't tell if you are recommending as a male or as a female or non-binary?
I highly recommend New Balance trail runners built on the SL-2 shoe last. They have a narrow heel and a WIDE, DEEP toe box. Your toes need to be able to wiggle. I also suggest you purchase them 1.5 sizes larger than you generally wear.Mrs Helado is insistent that what she needs for her next Camino is a pair of wide-fit, Gore-tex, trail shoes.
Mrs Helado is very specific.
Hours spent googling have so far brought no joy.
Any ideas?
Some widths of New Balance shoes (at least women's) are only available at the the wideshoes.com website I posted above. I believe that they have a contract with New Balance to be the sole seller of the wider wide shoes. I don't think you can even get these at New Balance factory outlet stores. New Balance is local to us and a woman friend of ours who used to be an elite runner passed this information on in a conversation.I know that New Balance carries many shoes in widths.
Hi, Flog, I looked briefly and can only see this as a man's shoe? I can't tell if you are recommending as a male or as a female or non-binary?
Nothing wrong with a woman wearing a man's shoe if the size/width works best for them.I just looked: Yes, they come in both women's and men's sizes. Google away..
I'm not a fan of goretex for the reasons already mentioned, but I generally don't walk in very hot weather, which seems to show up the shortcomings of vapour barriers. I haven't had any issues with these, and they work very well for me. I will stick with them.
About Mrs Helado's Goretex requirement. @davebugg has professionally reviewed backpacking products for manufacturers for years. He doesn't think that waterproof footwear is a good thing. He's written quite a few posts about this explaining the reasons why. Here is one of them.
This is, of course, very good advice. Mrs Helado and I have looked for a specialist in London and not yet found one! Hard to believe, I know. We've called a couple of shops to be told that they don't stock this one or that one and it does seem that a wide selection of shoes only exists online. If anyone has any knowledge of a specialist shop in London please do let me know.Hey Max. I’m sympathetic to Mrs. Helado’s predicament. Finding a good fitting shoe is an important challenge for her upcoming Camino. I’ve worn trail running shoes on two Caminos and have been very pleased with the comfort they offered. However, it took a trip to a store specializing in running shoes where I could try on various wide-fit shoes before I knew which one was best for me. In addition, I was also fitted for a pair of Super-feet insoles. So, although the shoes that I’ve worn twice worked well for me, it’s because they fit my feet. I think Mrs. Helodo would be best served by visiting a store with professionals who can fit her properly.
Oh dear, Rick. Are you seriously challenging Mrs Helado's demand for Gore-tex? I don't know if you are brave or foolish.About Mrs Helado's Goretex requirement. @davebugg has professionally reviewed backpacking products for manufacturers for years. He doesn't think that waterproof footwear is a good thing. He's written quite a few posts about this explaining the reasons why. Here is one of them.
Anhalter - why do you say "what's the point of that"? Is there some contradiction with the idea of gore-tex and trail runners? Serious question. Sounds like you see something in this combo that I don't know about.The only one that comes to my mind is the Altra Lone Peak All Weather
Lone Peak ALL-WTHR Low Woman
Mit dem Lone Peak ALL-WTHR Low kannst du es richtig krachen lassen. Wir haben alles genommen, was du am klassischen Lone Peak liebst und eine wetterfeste eVent™ Bootie-Konstruktion hinzugefügt. Genauso wie eine reaktionsfreudige Altra EGO™ Zwischensohle und die griffige MaxTrac™ Laufsohle, damit...www.altrarunning.eu
I personally would not chose a low cut gore tex trailrunner (whats the point of that), so chances are there are more models not on my radar.
This one is a no mem-brainer. I wear gortex shoes on the wettest of days in the winter. They keep my feet dry-er than my usual shoes when walking through puddles. I tried them in warmer weather, and they are a disaster, since they do not breathe as well as advertised, and guarantee that after a few hours, my feet are wet on the sunniest of days. Above all else, the shoes need to fit and be comfortable. Nothing short of a hip-wader will keep your feet dry when it rains all day, and those are not known for their comfort. Could Mrs. Helado be persuaded with a pair of waterproof socks held in reserve for the unlikely event of inclement weather?Oh dear, Rick. Are you seriously challenging Mrs Helado's demand for Gore-tex? I don't know if you are brave or foolish.
(Slightly) more seriously, I have some reservations about the Gore-tex mandate too. We will be walking in June when we are less likely to encounter wet weather but perhaps a problem with sweaty feet? Or in Mrs Helado's case, feet that simply glow.
I would welcome views on Gore-tex vs a more breathable fabric which I can gently suggest to Mrs H.
I think that the combination of low cut and goretex makes it pointless. If it rains water will enter the shoes, and then she will have wet feet with shoes that don't dry quickly.Anhalter - why do you say "what's the point of that"? Is there some contradiction with the idea of gore-tex and trail runners? Serious question. Sounds like you see something in this combo that I don't know about.
That makes good sense to me.I think that the combination of low cut and goretex makes it pointless. If it rains water will enter the shoes, and then she will have wet feet with shoes that don't dry quickly.
I'm sure that there is someone that uses it...Would I be correct in thinking that no-one is a fan of gore-tex for summer walking?
I think i've seen plenty of people with gore tex that where quite happy. But thats mostly boots. And i seen lots of people where you might have traced their blisters back to gore tex. It's not a black or white answer. For some it works, for some it does not.Would I be correct in thinking that no-one is a fan of gore-tex for summer walking?
Goretex makes it harder for water to penetrate a fabric. Much harder to get in, a bit harder to get out. With a low cut shoe, i guess, the water has it quite easy to get in over the "hole where your foot is" (whats the english word?). So you get left with the "a bit harder to get out" part without having the benefit.Anhalter - why do you say "what's the point of that"? Is there some contradiction with the idea of gore-tex and trail runners? Serious question. Sounds like you see something in this combo that I don't know about.
Because I planned on hiking in the Pyrenees post-Camino Francés I wore goretex in leather boots with a single pair of wool socks (May through July). I had no blister problems and I didn't have any discomfort. But that is just me, I guess my feet are used to punishment.Would I be correct in thinking that no-one is a fan of gore-tex for summer walking?
I am also very specific. As a woman with feet that are too small/short for men's shoes, I have looked for similar - more for at-home walking in rainy Vancouver winters, than for the Camino. However, women's trail shoes rarely come wide enough, women's Goretex shoes rarely come wide enough, and I have never found the combination. I have given up, because I have found a super comfy wide cushioned runner, and that comfort is the most important factor. I manage with wool socks on wet days.wide-fit, Gore-tex, trail shoes.
Mrs Helado is very specific.
I think I am coming to the same conclusion as you did and I think wide-fit, non-gore-tex is the way to go.I am also very specific. As a woman with feet that are too small/short for men's shoes, I have looked for similar - more for at-home walking in rainy Vancouver winters, than for the Camino. However, women's trail shoes rarely come wide enough, women's Goretex shoes rarely come wide enough, and I have never found the combination. I have given up, because I have found a super comfy wide cushioned runner, and that comfort is the most important factor. I manage with wool socks on wet days.
I have Meindl - fabulous!Mrs Helado is insistent that what she needs for her next Camino is a pair of wide-fit, Gore-tex, trail shoes.
Mrs Helado is very specific.
Hours spent googling have so far brought no joy.
Any ideas?
I think one of the things to take into consideration is that walking the Camino is probably the only time in your life that you will walk long distances day after day for a month or so, wearing the same shoes every day.Would I be correct in thinking that no-one is a fan of gore-tex for summer walking?
Thank you for this. Sounds to me like another clear vote against Gore-tex for summer walking.I think one of the things to take into consideration is that walking the Camino is probably the only time in your life that you will walk long distances day after day for a month or so, wearing the same shoes every day.
A lot of the other activities that you do wearing these types of footwear is weekend, or maybe a week long.
So plenty of opportunity for blisters to form, and not a lot of time for them to heal. as you are on them every day.
So in my opinion better to avoid them in the first place.
If you are walking in summer, there will probably be some rain (in Galicia), but many fine hot days. In my experience when it rains, it really rains, so water will pour down your legs into your shoes whether they are waterproof or not. You need your shoes to dry quickly. I stuff mine with paper and they are dry overnight.
I'm not a fan of Goretex shoes at all, but particularly in a hot summer as your feet get hot and sweaty, inside shoes that don't breathe, and don't dry quickly.
I do NOT recommend Goretex shoes, personally. What keeps water out will hold water in, and my experience wearing Goretex (I worked for USFWS) was they caused blisters for me. I realize some people like them, but I don't.
Not necessarily. Rubber is waterproof. Goretex's fame has come from being waterproof and breathable, which is what you seek. However, experience on the ground illustrates that there are important tradeoffs in performance in terms of keeping feet dry, getting the shoes to dry, avoiding blisters, and even the way shoes fit.indicate waterproof, not Goretex. Is that considered a happy medium?
Correct. A lot of modern waterproof but breathable fabrics use a layer of film with microscopic holes too small to let water in (because surface tension beads it up) but the holes are large enough to let water vapor though. Goretex is a form of polytetrafluoroethylene film (invented by DuPont and trademarked by them as Teflon). The film is stretched and this creates the pores. Too fragile to use by itself it is adhered to other fabrics and may be sandwiched between two layers. Gore's patent has probably expired by now and there may be other idental products used by manufacturers with their own trademarks. Other ways of making holes the right size for waterproofness with breathability exist too.Going to pick your brain on this one. When a shoe indicates waterproof, that doesn't necessarily mean Goretex, correct?
On the camino, I (female) always wear men’s Altra lone peak trail runners. It has nothing to do with gender, it’s physiology. I find that the Altra toe box is wider in men’s than women’s shoes, but the rest of the shoe fit is nearly identical. In other words I don’t find myself sloshing around at the heel. I love them and wouldn’t wear anything else.Hi, Flog, I looked briefly and can only see this as a man's shoe? I can't tell if you are recommending as a male or as a female or non-binary?
1) To me, waterproof and goretex both mean if they hold water out they'll hold water inGoing to pick your brain on this one. When a shoe indicates waterproof, that doesn't necessarily mean Goretex, correct? I found my trail runners way more comfy than Keen boots, and my feet were not prone to blisters. Trailrunners also dried infinitely faster (two caminos walking through Galicia in November).
For my February camino, I want a quick drying shoe, but I also don't want a totally permeable membrane. These shoes in my Amazon cart indicate waterproof, not Goretex. Is that considered a happy medium?
Unfortunately, not too many trailrunners come in a Women's Wide.I agree, trailrunners are the way to go.
No, that is a problem, particularly if your feet are too small for the mens sizing as mine are. In Running/Walking shoes I have found a New Balance in a wide last, and a Brooks (I think the style is Dyad 11) in extra wide. I mainly walk in sandals on the Camino, but around home I love the Brooks. I have a narrow heel, and a super high arch so that makes shoes extra diffcult.Unfortunately, not too many trailrunners come in a Women's Wide.
I guess its me. I always use Keens, men's Gore-Tex shoes for my wide feet. I walk in spring or autumn, not summer though. Tried other shoes but always return to Keens.Would I be correct in thinking that no-one is a fan of gore-tex for summer walking?
New Balance. I get triple wide for my own hobbit feet!Unfortunately, not too many trailrunners come in a Women's Wide.
What do you think of NB Hierro 7 mens. I walked the CP with it with sideways, 800 km. I have bunions, so wide forefeet. Used them with customized orthotics. Liked them a lot, very soft though stable. There is a GTX version. I sized up. I might buy new ones for the upcoming CF. Not sure if I need some sturdier Trail runners.Mrs Helado is insistent that what she needs for her next Camino is a pair of wide-fit, Gore-tex, trail shoes.
Mrs Helado is very specific.
Hours spent googling have so far brought no joy.
Any ideas?
I love the altra Olympus 5Mrs Helado is insistent that what she needs for her next Camino is a pair of wide-fit, Gore-tex, trail shoes.
Mrs Helado is very specific.
Hours spent googling have so far brought no joy.
Any ideas?
Yes, New Balance seems to have the best selection of wide shoes for Women. I wear the New Balance FF More V3 about 15 hours/day. However, there are still few "trail runners" that come in the wide widths.New Balance. I get triple wide for my own hobbit feet!
Just to balance the scales a bit. Myself and others have worn Gore-Tex with no issues. While all points of view are valid, they may not hold for any given individual. The best advice is to try out your footwear choice before you are ready to leave in order to see what will suit you best.About Mrs Helado's Goretex requirement. @davebugg has professionally reviewed backpacking products for manufacturers for years. He doesn't think that waterproof footwear is a good thing. He's written quite a few posts about this explaining the reasons why. Here is one of them.
I need wide-fit shoes and since I have large feet, I usually end up purchasing men’s boots. This may be a solution if the men’s sizes would fit.Mrs Helado is insistent that what she needs for her next Camino is a pair of wide-fit, Gore-tex, trail shoes.
Mrs Helado is very specific.
Hours spent googling have so far brought no joy.
Any ideas?
This was what I was going to recommend. Altra also has high top ones. The low ones pair well with gaitersThe only one that comes to my mind is the Altra Lone Peak All Weather
Lone Peak ALL-WTHR Low Woman
Mit dem Lone Peak ALL-WTHR Low kannst du es richtig krachen lassen. Wir haben alles genommen, was du am klassischen Lone Peak liebst und eine wetterfeste eVent™ Bootie-Konstruktion hinzugefügt. Genauso wie eine reaktionsfreudige Altra EGO™ Zwischensohle und die griffige MaxTrac™ Laufsohle, damit...www.altrarunning.eu
I personally would not chose a low cut gore tex trailrunner (whats the point of that), so chances are there are more models not on my radar.
Oh dear, Rick. Are you seriously challenging Mrs Helado's demand for Gore-tex? I don't know if you are brave or foolish.
(Slightly) more seriously, I have some reservations about the Gore-tex mandate too. We will be walking in June when we are less likely to encounter wet weather but perhaps a problem with sweaty feet? Or in Mrs Helado's case, feet that simply glow.
I would welcome views on Gore-tex vs a more breathable fabric which I can gently suggest to Mrs H.
I recommend ALTRA shoes and hikers. They are known for very wide toe-box. I wore their Lone Peak 6 hikers (non waterproof) on my partial Camino this fall, loved them. There are other models, many GTX (Goretex) / All Weather.Mrs Helado is insistent that what she needs for her next Camino is a pair of wide-fit, Gore-tex, trail shoes.
Mrs Helado is very specific.
Hours spent googling have so far brought no joy.
Any ideas?
I use men's shoes as they are widerMrs Helado is insistent that what she needs for her next Camino is a pair of wide-fit, Gore-tex, trail shoes.
Mrs Helado is very specific.
Hours spent googling have so far brought no joy.
Any ideas?
I have worn mens Keens boots for years, however mens boots have different proportions to womens, such as higher in the back and thicker soles. My current boots are Merril wide fit womens and I am so far finding them a better shape around my ankle/lower leg. It was a relief to finally find wide womens boots again in AustraliaNothing wrong with a woman wearing a man's shoe if the size/width works best for them.
She might want to expand her choices by looking at men's shoes. Men's regular width is a women's wide.Mrs Helado is insistent that what she needs for her next Camino is a pair of wide-fit, Gore-tex, trail shoes.
Mrs Helado is very specific.
Hours spent googling have so far brought no joy.
Any ideas?
Mrs Helado is insistent that what she needs for her next Camino is a pair of wide-fit, Gore-tex, trail shoes.
Mrs Helado is very specific.
Hours spent googling have so far brought no joy.
Any ideas?
Just to point out that I did post the conclusion to the "Mrs H and the big feet" saga. She is now a very happy camper (or walker) with her Altra shoes.Mrs H paid a visit to a specialist shoe store earlier today. Appears she had a useful and well informed conversation with the chap in the shop. Yes, men's shoes do have a wider fit but be careful because the fit on the heel is also different. No, you don't need Goretex if you are walking in Spain in the summer. Choose a shoe one size bigger than the measured size.
Mrs H has decided on the Altra TIMP 4 Women's Trail Running Shoe.
She is a very happy lady.
Thanks to all for your help in coming to this important decision. We look forward to a comfy and blister-free Camino.