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What technology are you using on the Camino and which applications in particular do you recommend?
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My pigeons are getting on a bit now, might need a rethink.
AJ, maybe...but perhaps you just need younger pigeons?My pigeons are getting on a bit now, might need a rethink.
An interesting question! I recall sitting at a bar reading my email when a woman nearby launched into conversation with a remark along the lines that she had decided to do her camino without any technology. I smiled. She wasn't wearing any wool or cotton.What technology are you using on the Camino and which applications in particular do you recommend?
Here we go again, the argument about technology. Pass. I think that dead horse has been beaten already.I recall sitting at a bar reading my email when a woman nearby launched into conversation with a remark along the lines that she had decided to do her camino without any technology. I smiled. She wasn't wearing any wool or cotton.
We find it SO hard to resist the debate! It is the 'holier than thou' approach that can get me riled up.Here we go again, the argument about technology. Pass. I think that dead horse has been beaten already. Except to say that a smug 'holier than thou' attitude is insufferable no matter what side of the fence a person stands on.
I'm as tied into my technology as everyone else, but please will some veteran pilgrim tell this newbie that I'm not going to walk 500 miles alongside a bunch of zombie pilgrims, staring into their devices and missing everything above, below, and around? This is one of life's evolutionary habits that I'm so hoping to escape for a few months.
None of us can guarantee that, so you take your chances! With 250,000 people/year walking on that route, you can expect to find some zombies. Do they not have the right to walk on pilgrimage too!. please will some veteran pilgrim tell this newbie that I'm not going to walk 500 miles alongside a bunch of zombie pilgrims, staring into their devices and missing everything above, below, and around? This is one of life's evolutionary habits that I'm so hoping to escape for a few months.
please will some veteran pilgrim tell this newbie that I'm not going to walk 500 miles alongside a bunch of zombie pilgrims, staring into their devices and missing everything above, below, and around?
I was about to say something boring and straight, along the lines of please don't worry...but @C clearly just got me to laugh out loud by saying that, but much better.None of us can guarantee that, so you take your chances! With 250,000 people/year walking on that route, you can expect to find some zombies. Do they not have the right to walk on pilgrimage too!
On many places on the Camino, walking while looking at a smartphone will get you a broken leg...
What technology are you using on the Camino and which applications in particular do you recommend?
I have never seen a dessert that big I needed for find a waterhole in it to walk across itOr Australian Aborigines with an uncanny ability to travel vast distances and remember scarce waterholes in desserts.
I would say it is neither, it is just what it is. Whilst there is a lot information available on the web, I doubt that it is only available on the web. If contacting those at home is what you need to do, than a simple phone and sending text messages would be an easy, low-tech way to achieve this. Buen Camino, SYOkay I am (almost) completely computer/technology illiterate. My only concern would be contacting those at home. I am about to do my first, and probably only camino. Is having no experience with the technological world to my advantage, or is it now a necessity where traditional information has now vanished and only accesible on the web. Yes I am of an older generation.
Hi sitges54,Okay I am (almost) completely computer/technology illiterate. My only concern would be contacting those at home. I am about to do my first, and probably only camino. Is having no experience with the technological world to my advantage, or is it now a necessity where traditional information has now vanished and only accesible on the web. Yes I am of an older generation.
I think there is definitely an advantage--especially on the Camino--to not being bombarded by (or addicted to) constant connection and stimulation. Life and interactions go along at a pace that is in sync with our natural biological rhythms and capacities. It's one of the delights of the Camino to live at a walking pace. Not that we have to give up faster transportation, but it's wonderfully relaxing to slow back down to our natural pace. It's the same with electronics and information--we have to use them in the world today, for lots of things, but being on the Camino is a chance to return to a more natural inner quiet and take things in slowly.Is having no experience with the technological world to my advantage, or is it now a necessity where traditional information has now vanished and only accesible on the web. Yes I am of an older generation.
I'm not sure I understand the question. Do you find your technological inexperience to be an advantage in your normal life? If you don't use the technology at home, then I don't think that the camino is a sensible place to start!Is having no experience with the technological world to my advantage, or is it now a necessity where traditional information has now vanished and only accesible on the web.
Okay I am (almost) completely computer/technology illiterate. My only concern would be contacting those at home.
What technology are you using on the Camino and which applications in particular do you recommend?
OK if you can't get any decent papyrus I suppose . . . .I use a collection of flattened wood-pulp with squiggles on. Seems to work ok even when there isn't any wi-fi...
Anybody remember that lovely downhill track from Molinaseca where you can see right across to Ponferrada in the distance? I did that one time while a young Spanish girl walked along behind me talking (loudly) to a friend on her mobile for over 40 minutes. We sighed with relief when the conversation stopped only for her to call somebody else . .That won't be the case. When people use their phones, it's usually while stopping for a rest, at the alberque, or whatever. I didn't witness very many people walking while looking at their phones. You see a bit more of that in the last 100km, but not too much. If nothing else, most people don'the have enough data on their plans to be on their phones much unless they are somewhere with WiFi.
OK if you can't get any decent papyrus I suppose . . . .
We had to wear an apron when we did clay work in infants school (kindergarden) - I am NOT wearing one on the Camino!Or a clay tablet SY
I am not a Luddite, but I got through the whole 500 miles of CF without a cell phone or camera (I did wear a watch, however). Found myself staring into space (meditating?) while everyone around me was busy on their bunks interacting with their iphones. Next time I'll probably reconsider, but being unconnected for 6 weeks was all in all a good experience, I think.What technology are you using on the Camino and which applications in particular do you recommend?
I brought a decent mirrorless camera with an extra lens. So that's one medium zoom, and another short very wide zoom for interiors and tight exteriors. I love taking photos of what turns up in front of me. There were many times when I stopped, dropping my walking poles and getting my pack off ASAP to get a shot of something before the light changed or somebody walked into shot. I took quite a few panoramas with my iPhone 6S - very impressive software managing the knitting of those panoramas. I Skyped a few times with my family in Australia via iPhone or iPad.
I used Google every day to figure out where I was. I had saved the locations of all prebooked accommodation, so when I was too tired to think I just got the blue dot to head for the yellow star. I received texts and photos of my two new twin granddaughters and for the first time in my life I actually showed people my baby pictures!
I travel with an iPad which I used for browsing and watching TV series and the occasional movie at night over free wifi to take my mind off painful feet as I stayed horizontal for as many hours per day as I could. The iPad was also very handy for viewing and backing up photos.
I love technology and use it to make my life more comfortable at times and more productive. I'm an artist and my camera gave me immense satisfaction whenever I was able to respond to the beauty I spent 5 weeks walking through so that I can share it with my family. It's looking as though I'll be selling photos of my Camino so that I might be able to afford another one sooner rather than later. One day it had been raining all day and I hadn't taken a single picture. Mid-afternoon, I stopped near Calzadilla de los Hermanillos, took off my poncho, put down my pack, took out my camera and took a shot of a landscape which was all grey, lost in layers of heavy rain, a road streaked with flooded tire tracks stretching off away from me. I got soaked and all my clothes stuck together afterwards as I was even wetter than before I stopped. The photo looks beautiful, it was the only shot I took that day. I felt that it would have been irresponsible not to stop and "respond".
Someone in a previous post said that a thousand years ago, pilgrims would have taken a bus or a taxi if they could have. Not to use modern technology can be false modesty, it seems to me. It's somehow egotistical to insist that simplicity is genuinely humble and somehow more reverential. Some people wouldn't make the Camino at all without hi-tech boots, or leg-braces, or crutches, or pacemakers, or medication, or eye surgery, vision aids, etc., etc.
We are such clever creatures. To not use the tools we have created with our intelligence is to sometimes refuse to celebrate our humanity.
Buen Camino, - Mike
Here we go again, the argument about technology. Pass. I think that dead horse has been beaten already.
Except to say that a smug 'holier than thou' attitude is insufferable no matter what side of the fence a person stands on. That peregrina was simply being rude, Doug, and was lucky you had the admirable restraint to leave it with a smile!
And I appreciate the reminder that even a Tilley is technology--as are wool and cotton. I for one am very grateful that we walk in clothing...the alternative is not only less comfortable to experience but mostly (speaking for myself) much less comfortable on other people's eyes and sensibilities!
I could call you "K" but that would be Kafkaesque so I guess you just can't win. Discussing politics is verboten here. So out there on the Camino might be the best place for any serious discussion. It's too late though, to talk about that thing and almost too late for that other thing!Yep, Trebert, it's a hellava name to grow up with. (About the empty message... I'm afraid I don't remember what I was going to say. Haven't quite figured out how to quote and respond on this forum.) Would love to meet you on the Camino and discuss politics. ;-)
I could call you "K" but that would be Kafkaesque so I guess you just can't win. Discussing politics is verboten here. I recently mentioned the name of a certain USandA presidential candidate here and got myself censored. So out there on the Camino might be the best place for any serious discussion. It's too late though, to talk about that thing and almost too late for that other thing!
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Hi Rod,Met some wonderful American Peregrinos on our first day in Ponferrada a particular group again and again throughout our walk to SdC. We had many great talks about politics, the unsaid Presidential candidate and a lot more. Aussies say what Canadians only think about US politics! It was great to have these conversations over dinner, over wine, on the Camino. Not necessary, or needed here though!
I just used a data sim that I bought from Orange to make sure we weren't too far off where we were supposed to be. Most of the time, though, we just relied on the route markers.What technology are you using on the Camino and which applications in particular do you recommend?
My first time through, I used an old Android phone without a SIM card on WiFi only. The Camino Pilgrim app was extremely useful - all data was available offline, it had maps, custom stage planning, albergue info, and other amenities for the Camino Frances as well as routes to Fisterra and Muxia. Unfortunately its live mapping and location info required a data connection, so when I was out of WiFi range I'd use maps.me which uses offline maps and the phone's GPS to show your current location as well as location-based search for nearby amenities.
When I go this fall it'll be with a new phone on Google's Project Fi network, so I can do international data without paying extra.
Are you in the US? Our mobile plans are more restrictive than most; if you plan on getting a new phone and purchasing a sim in Spain for use there make certain your carrier has unlocked it before you go.I have been to Europe and remember getting a Sim card there once. I am not that versed in the process and I will also need to purchase a phone because I am relocating and will want a phone in my new state. What do you recommend? I want to be able to reach my son who will also be on the Camino but maybe walking at a different pace than I will and I want to take pictures and have data access. Thoughts?