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Thank you so much for taking the time to share your Hospitalero experience with us. It brought back good memories. I have been a hospitalera 8 times and each one was unique. It is a special experience to serve in an albergue, to meet the needs of the guests, and to live in a town on the Camino for two weeks.Paco, our relief hospi, has arrived. We went over things that may or may not have changed since last year. He was relieved to know the "pipes" were less smelly this year and pleased to see some new improvements and furnishings. He has gone now to reacquainted himself with local contacts.
It is almost 7 pm and there are no pilgrims yet tonight. Phil and I have our packs ready for the 7:42 bus.
We did have a family of six with Grandma, Mom, Dad, and three very young children stop in for stamps. They had walked together from Somport and were presumably staying in some kind of apartment with the kids.
We have enjoyed our time here and maybe @Rebekah Scott will ask us back for another time at this albergue or another seved by FICS. Phil hopes to be back later in the year and eventually I can join him for later trips when I retire in 20 months. I will let you know we've made it back to Madrid and then home, but this is essentially the end of this year's hospitalera thread. I hope there will be an opportunity next year for service, wherever we get assigned with either HosVol or FICS.
Gulp. Glad all are OK, in the end.something happened to the brakes on the train and it had to be pushed from Sabiniango back to Huesca. Then everyone was loaded onto buses for Canfranc Estacion so a 4 hour trip became an 8 hour trip. Paco waited up for them and the 4 arrived at 12:30 am.
Grf. I assume this happens more in Canfranc than most places? It'd be interesting to hear what those two did to get to the bottom of the fake pilgrim's stories.Also at 9:45 we had two faux pilgrims who tried to convince us they were the real deal. Paco and Phil punched holes in their story and sent them on their way.
Don't know about fake pilgrims, but there is a very large number of weekend hikers up there.I assume this happens more in Canfranc than most places? It'd be interesting to hear what those two did to get to the bottom of the fake pilgrim's stories.
Well, we only had it happen a few times. Sometimes people stop and ask, but when they don't have a credential it is pretty easy to weed them out.Just when you thought you were done with this thread...
Gulp. Glad all are OK, in the end.
Grf. I assume this happens more in Canfranc than most places? It'd be interesting to hear what those two did to get to the bottom of the fake pilgrim's stories.
It will be Paco on duty. We are at the train station in Zaragoza waiting for our connection to Madrd.Good job! I would love to be a hospitalero some time, but I do not have the assertion to tell somebody: "no, you are not allowed to stay here". I believe you are expecting a special pilgrim today
ok, have a safe trip back home, it was great to follow you in your days in Canfranc, I am looking forward to going back there soon!!!It will be Paco on duty. We are at the train station in Zaragoza waiting for our connection to Madrd.
Have a safe journey home or to your next destination. Cheers and Buen Camino.It will be Paco on duty. We are at the train station in Zaragoza waiting for our connection to Madrd.
When I was a hospitalera at Emaus in Burgos, Marie Noelle admitted a young man without a credencial one evening. I believe that he said he had just arrived in Burgos to begin his camino. Perhaps Burgos is a usual place to start a camino and he could get a credencial elsewhere in town the next day. I was a little surprised.Good job! I would love to be a hospitalero some time, but I do not have the assertion to tell somebody: "no, you are not allowed to stay here". I believe you are expecting a special pilgrim today
Yes, it happens, especially when people are not completely truthful. I will start another thread about this soon. I have been thinking about when we call ourselves pilgrims, but have no intention to go to Santiago. Just following an interesting route or want to avoid the crowds on the last 100 km. Only a few I met the last two weeks intended (God willing) to go on to Santiago. Not sure the difference between a person walking only a part of one route and a hiker. Mindset or is there a difference? We can discuss it in another thread. I have a few more things to post about our trip yet here.When I was a hospitalera at Emaus in Burgos, Marie Noelle admitted a young man without a credencial one evening. I believe that he said he had just arrived in Burgos to begin his camino. Perhaps Burgos is a usual place to start a camino and he could get a credencial elsewhere in town the next day. I was a little surprised.
Now about getting to Madrid from Canfranc Pueblo. We caught the Valley yellow bus at 7:42 am. Our neighbor, Jose Maria, walked out to the bus stop to say goodbye, invite us back, and make sure we had everything we needed to get back to Madrid. Such a wonderful person.
We caught the 8:30 bus from Jaca to Zaragoza and it was full!!! Glad I bought advance tickets. In Zaragoza we ate our ham and cheese bocadillos and apple quarters in the waiting area for the train.
We caught the 2:07 pm Oigo fast train to Madrid and arrived at 3:26. A word about this line. It was significantly cheaper than any other route. We traveled for 15 Euros each with no senior discount. It was like the Ryan Air, Easy Jet, Vueling combination train ride in one. Double decker car seating. Rack above not large enough for a Camino backpack and luggage compartments too small. Very little legroom. Not a problem for me, but Phil played footsie with the other three tall men in his seating bank.
It's cheap and you can only book online with them, but just beware. Book directly with them or we did it on the trainline App andnpronted our tickets in advance at the tourism office.
Sitting now in our air conditioned AC hotel in Madrid near Atoche station sipping adult beverages. Will see the museums the next two days as it will be HOT and take the yellow Airport Express bus to our flight on Thursday for 5 Euros each. Leaves from outside the Cercanis station at
This more mature (older) partner would prefer to spend a bit more if we can afford it for more comfort. Guess I'm spoiled.Now about getting to Madrid from Canfranc Pueblo. We caught the Valley yellow bus at 7:42 am. Our neighbor, Jose Maria, walked out to the bus stop to say goodbye, invite us back, and make sure we had everything we needed to get back to Madrid. Such a wonderful person.
We caught the 8:30 bus from Jaca to Zaragoza and it was full!!! Glad I bought advance tickets. In Zaragoza we ate our ham and cheese bocadillos and apple quarters in the waiting area for the train.
We caught the 2:07 pm Oigo fast train to Madrid and arrived at 3:26. A word about this line. It was significantly cheaper than any other route. We traveled for 15 Euros each with no senior discount. It was like the Ryan Air, Easy Jet, Vueling combination train ride in one. Double decker car seating. Rack above not large enough for a Camino backpack and luggage compartments too small. Very little legroom. Not a problem for me, but Phil played footsie with the other three tall men in his seating bank.
It's cheap and you can only book online with them, but just beware. Book directly with them or we did it on the trainline App andnpronted our tickets in advance at the tourism office.
Sitting now in our air conditioned AC hotel in Madrid near Atoche station sipping adult beverages. Will see the museums the next two days as it will be HOT and take the yellow Airport Express bus to our flight on Thursday for 5 Euros each. Leaves from outside the Cercanis station at Atoche.
I so love your description: 'sipping adult beverages...'Now about getting to Madrid from Canfranc Pueblo. We caught the Valley yellow bus at 7:42 am. Our neighbor, Jose Maria, walked out to the bus stop to say goodbye, invite us back, and make sure we had everything we needed to get back to Madrid. Such a wonderful person.
We caught the 8:30 bus from Jaca to Zaragoza and it was full!!! Glad I bought advance tickets. In Zaragoza we ate our ham and cheese bocadillos and apple quarters in the waiting area for the train.
We caught the 2:07 pm Oigo fast train to Madrid and arrived at 3:26. A word about this line. It was significantly cheaper than any other route. We traveled for 15 Euros each with no senior discount. It was like the Ryan Air, Easy Jet, Vueling combination train ride in one. Double decker car seating. Rack above not large enough for a Camino backpack and luggage compartments too small. Very little legroom. Not a problem for me, but Phil played footsie with the other three tall men in his seating bank.
It's cheap and you can only book online with them, but just beware. Book directly with them or we did it on the trainline App andnpronted our tickets in advance at the tourism office.
Sitting now in our air conditioned AC hotel in Madrid near Atoche station sipping adult beverages. Will see the museums the next two days as it will be HOT and take the yellow Airport Express bus to our flight on Thursday for 5 Euros each. Leaves from outside the Cercanis station at Atoche.
Live and learn!!! I had no idea at the time why the tickets were so cheap and it was even faster than the Renfe AVE! Also a good experience if I ever want to give Rick Steve's a little competition with my experience on the train lines...This more mature (older) partner would prefer to spend a bit more if we can afford it for more comfort. Guess I'm spoiled.
Phil
I love it for a couple of weeks. It replaces the "nursing" which is a part of my profession (teaching others nursing and caregiving at the University) and reminds me why I became a nurse to begin with! I walked Paco through the recipe for chocolate chip banana bread and will send it in Spanish on WhatsApp. He was interested in how to recycle the plantanos negro or overripe bananas.I so love your description: 'sipping adult beverages...'
I admire your capacity to persevere in recounting details without breaking any confidences.
It is so clear in your accounts that you have absorbed the essence of being hospitaleros, and I am sure you have waved off many happy pilgrims during the last fortnight. Well done, thank you.
well, if you need help translating the recipe to Spanish, please feel free to send me a PM, I will be very happy to translate it in exchange for knowing it and being able to do something with those bananas that show some slightly darker molecules and are thus rendered as "unedible" by grumpy teenagersI love it for a couple of weeks. It replaces the "nursing" which is a part of my profession (teaching others nursing and caregiving at the University) and reminds me why I became a nurse to begin with! I walked Paco through the recipe for chocolate chip banana bread and will send it in Spanish on WhatsApp. He was interested in how to recycle the plantanos negro or overripe bananas.
yes, adapting "cups" to the metric system is a nightmare, and ir you are talking about baking, you need to be very precise in quantities, otherwise, it just does not workAt home I would use 3 mashed bananas. (I keep them in the freezer until I have 3 total), 1 egg, 1/4 cup of sugar, 1/2 cup of corn or sunflower oil. Mix with a mixer or by hand.
Measure dry ingredients in a separate bowl. 2 cups of flour, 1 teaspoon of baking soda.
Combine and mix dry and wet ingredients and add 1/2 cup of milk or slightly more until a batter forms. Stir in walnuts and chocolate chips gently and then transfer to two small greased aluminum loaf pans (or one bigger greased loaf pan). Bake at 200 degrees centigrade or at home at altitude 375 F. Takes 30 to 45 minutes to bake depending on the altitude (I live at 7200 feet or over 2,000 meters).
I had to eyeball all amounts in Spain as all measuring cups I had were metric and the metric scales were not working. I also had to buy a bar of dark sweetened baking chocolate and chop it up since some stores did not have chocolate chips.
It came out fine each time even though I forgot the sugar once. Pilgrims gobbled it up anyway. Two loaves never lasted more than two days.
Today we went to the Sophia Reina and Thyssen museums. Again only saw a little to save something for other visits. Loved them both. Comparing them to the Guggenheim in Bilbao might be unfair, but the Guggenheim falls fourth on our list as of now. Really loved the Thyssen and saw more paintings by artists I recognize in one place.
Now packing up and getting ready for our trip home. We have decided to take a cab rather than the discount option of the Airport Shuttle. The shuttle requires us to haul our stuff through the streets at 3 am or earlier to catch the bus for 5 euros each. A cab will meet us here at the hotel and drop us off at our terminal. I will let you know the cost.
We have a checked bag of pocket knife, hiking poles, and various dirty clothes and we will carry on our packs with CPAP machines, toiletries, and a change of clean clothes in case we get stuck somewhere. Fingers crossed we don't.
Good idea! The fixed price for a taxi to and from the airport has been set at 30€ but it may have gone up because of fuel prices. Check with your hotel because they will know. I think the main reason they instituted the fixed price to the airport was because so many tourists were getting ripped off by the taxi drivers.We have decided to take a cab rather than the discount option of the Airport Shuttle.
Those cuties are total pests. Introduced but now breeding in the wild. A lot.Saw this flock if cute green parrots on the way. Does anyone know if they are natural residents here or zoo escapees who have done well for themselves?
Oh, wonderful news! (Second your sentiments, Laurie...)The other is the national archaeological museum. It was closed for maybe almost a decade and has reopened in the last few years as a spectacular place to visit all sorts of archaeological treasures. Visigothic crowns, Roman mosaics, And the famous Dama de Elche.
I love Madrid!!!
Why would you be surprised? Not everyone starts at SJPD. I too have worked as a Hospitalero at Emaus and we had credencials to sell if a pilgrim needed.When I was a hospitalera at Emaus in Burgos, Marie Noelle admitted a young man without a credencial one evening. I believe that he said he had just arrived in Burgos to begin his camino. Perhaps Burgos is a usual place to start a camino and he could get a credencial elsewhere in town the next day. I was a little surprised.
Are food stores are available locally ? (other than two bars).Our Spanish hospitalera is on her way home. We had a wide ranging conversation last evening complete with showing photos of kids and grandkids. I was surprised how much I could say and understand. I told her we took Spanish lessons each week and she said she could understand me well. Phil understands a lot, but has more trouble getting the words out
I met several of the townfolk as she, Phil, and I watched the evening activities in and around the plaza and the two bars. Only the two pilgrims last night, but someone called today to ask about reservations for tomorrow. I told him we don't take reservations. But we are seldom full so we will likely see him tomorrow.
There is a festival in Canfranc Estacion this weekend and we're getting lots of tourist traffic at the bars and walking through town. The festival is for the revival of the station which is being remodeled into a hotel. Music, football games, Bingo, stuff for kids. Etc.
Church is today at 12:30 so we will attend. The albergue is clean now and I made a few salad dishes to tide us over until we go to the store on Monday or Tuesday.
More when we know who is joining us tonight! I counted and it looks like about 70 pilgrims total for the previous 15 days so I hope we can beat that!
There are two stores in Canfranc Estacion before you arrive and a grocery store in the next town past us. One of the bars has a few canned goods, bread, and eggs, but no fresh foods like fruit or vegetables.Are food stores are available locally ? (other than two bars).
Please ignore my earlier question regarding food stores - this covers it nicely.The dining arrangements here in Canfranc are limited to bringing something with you to cook or eating at one of the two bars. El Mentidero 2.0 (roughly translated to the Gossip) is next door and offers al fresco dining and drinks. Their kitchen is somehow linked into the albergue electrical system so the staff are often coming in through the back door to flip breakers on when things get lively.
The other bar is somehow associated with the ApartmentHotel building across the square. They also offer alfresco dining and drinks.
All the bar food is racions or tapas and much of it is fried. No salads or pilgrim menues or combination plates. Although tasty, I cannot survive on fried calamari and patas bravas for 2 plus weeks.
Today I made my first trip to Jaca by bus to buy some things for Phil and I and for the albergue. We keep these purchases separate as albergue cleaning and breakfast supplies are purchased from the donations we receive from pilgrims.
The bus runs up and down the valley several times each day. With our morning cleaning and an opening time of 2 pm we need to take the 10:11 bus to Jaca and return at noon. It is bright yellow so not easy to miss. I was dropped off at the bus station in Jaca and the bus left again from the same point.
Let me say that Monday mid-day is not the least busy time to shop at the Dia in Jaca. Not only were there shoppers, but enormous carts of fruits and vegetables for restocking in this store with rather narrow aisles. I filled two large reusable grocery bags with as much as I could carry. Essentials items for the albergue included TP, bananas, oranges, bathroom cleaning products, milk and some breakfast muffins. For Phil and I, I got salad stuff, fruit and vegetables, eggs, cheese, and some yogurt.
We'll be fine for a few more days now and I did see two other grocery stores near the bus station as we were heading back to town. Lots of riders on the noon bus and most appeared to be heading further up the hill than me. It is 1.75 each way which seems reasonable given the cost of fuel. Hospitaleros who live closer (France or Spain) might drive and then could make less frequent trips with a larger list.
Does anyone know of a video that does a tour of this a lbergue ( Canfranc Pueblo )
True on both counts! It’s in the center of the village which has a number of resident street cats, working dogs, one cow, a couple of horses, a donkey, and a few hundred sheep and goats. Tents and/or pilgrim dogs would be problematic for that location.Such a great looking albergue! But they don’t allow dogs and doesn’t look like there’s space to pitch up
The top floor balcony perhaps?True on both counts! It’s in the center of the village which has a number of resident street cats, working dogs, one cow, a couple of horses, a donkey, and a few hundred sheep and goats. Tents and/or pilgrim dogs would be problematic for that location.
Hello Mr Wilhaus, I am considering to volunteer for Hospitalero duty at Canfranc sometime in 2023 (June/July) and so I’d be extremely grateful if you could share some information about the Albergue, eg. the average number of pilgrims per day, whether the Albergue has a kitchen for pilgrims to prepare meals, the size of the village and the distance to the local store and restaurants/bars.We are on the train headed for our hospitalero duties at Canfranc Pueblo. We walked as pilgrims the first part of this trip on the Camino Aragones and a few days on the Camino Frances also spent a week being tourists in Spain for the first time in 6 trips here.
Our train journey from Zaragoza was about 11 euros each with a Tarjeta Dorada discount. You must purchase the TD in person (6 euros) at a Renfe station and show proper documentation that you are 60 or older. We've made multiple train journeys this trip so the card has paid for itself. We have been asked to show the card on several occasions when the ticket were bought online.
The train to Canfrac Estacion runs twice daily and takes about 4 hours. Because it is a regional train it makes many stops, but it is comfortable and has a bathroom on board. Bring your own snacks and drinks as there is no dining car. We boarded at 8:43 and should arrive at Canfranc Estacion at 12:30 or so.
We have notified the current hospitalera that we'll arrive this afternoon. We stayed as pilgrims at the albergue a few weeks ago so already know how to get there and bit about it.
The canfrance pueblo/ village Albergue is in the middle of a section/ stage , and many pilgrims pass thru as too early to stop.
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I believe the Albergue sign is not easy to see.
Again this needn't be an issue:While there are good cooking & kitchen facilities there is hardly any food supplies in this tiny village.
I see both @Flog and @Vacajoe have responded above and they are also members of the forum who have served at Canfranc. In July last year the most pilgrims we had was 6 or 7. Most nights we had only two or three.Hello Mr Wilhaus, I am considering to volunteer for Hospitalero duty at Canfranc sometime in 2023 (June/July) and so I’d be extremely grateful if you could share some information about the Albergue, eg. the average number of pilgrims per day, whether the Albergue has a kitchen for pilgrims to prepare meals, the size of the village and the distance to the local store and restaurants/bars.
Any such like info will be useful to me. Thank you
Yes, they do.. which again would question your assertion that it's ''in the middle of a stage''. I have simply countered your three negative statements with three factual positive ones. Oh, and me too. I have walked the Aragonês twice and also served as hospi in that albergue twice.Comments/Post are based on actual on the ground hospitalero experience .
Pilgrims walk many & varied paths & days
Thank you Vacajoe, that’s most informative.I can help with that! Canfranc Pueblo is a very small villa, but it offers great hiking and interesting sites nearby for your spare hours.
Permanent residents in the village number less than 50, but summer and weekends bring back a lot of people with second homes there. There is a bar (with a VERY small grocery section) that shares a wall with the albergue as well as a second bar steps away. The entire village is VERY small, so that’s it for local resources. The nearest grocery store is an hour walk uphill or downhill to the neighboring, larger villages. A local bus runs several times a day that you should be able to use to reach those stores and return before the albergue reopens in the afternoon.
Average number of pilgrims is tough to state as we were still dealing with Covid effects last year. Also, as the albergue gets more notice, expect the numbers to increase. There are 16 beds for pilgrims, but the Aragon route is still under-utilized so there may be days in the summer were some of those go unfilled.
The albergue is three stories with a kitchen on the ground floor and another on the top floor. Depending on how the hospitaleros set it up, the ground floor kitchen may be off-limits to pilgrims. The albergue has an extensive inventory of dishes, utensils, pots/pans, etc.
Overall, it’s a lovely place to serve. FICS and the village of Canfranc Pueblo should be proud of what they have created there.
Thank you you your feedback.Thanks for posting those! Cyndi and I walked Pamplona to Jaca on the north side of the Yesa Embalse a few years back. amazing to follow the old Aragon Camino path, but zero resources on that stage from Leyre to Puente la Reina de Jaca. The bus is a bit faster....
It’s the down, down that hurts but since that’s the best section, I’ll strap it and ice it after. I survived the Primitivo a 3How’s the knee on downhill trails? I think Somport to Jaca is the best part of the Camino Aragon, so definitely worth it if you can physically do it. You can keep that portion fairly short, too, with Somport to Pueblo being about two hours and then hike down to Jaca the next day (about four hours).
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