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I've read where there are no convenient campgrounds along the Camino, but has anyone taken an ultra-light tent and free camped? Is that allowed in Spain? If so, what has your experience been? Thank you, heading out in late May, 2016!
Ive freecamped many times in Spain without any problems. Earlier this year I walked Geneva to Santiago. In France I freecamped about half the time I was there, less so in Spain as the albergues were so cheap. In Spain when the weather was warm I freecamped outside without putting up the tent, I just used a sleepng bag (concrete picnic tables were my favourite, they even retain a little heat from a hot day). I was seen camping out by locals and farmers and only got smiles and waves. Trick is to set up late, keep the place clean, leave no trace. And never light a fire. I am walking next year, again from Geneva and will be taking my tent again. It just adds to your flexibility I think. It is especially easy to freecamp on the San salvador and the Hospitales route on the Primitivo.[/QUOTET
Thanks, Davey and everyone! What kind of tent did you use?. I've been searching for an ultra-light, having trouble finding one in the 1.5 lb range that is reasonably price. If I do tent it would be pretty much like you did, big believer in no trace approach. Also thinking of doing the Salvador to Primitivo detour and thought a tent might come in handy then...
Thank, Davey, I'll check it out! Light weight and sounds like a light price! Sure appreciate your taking the time...
Smallest sparrow this is just my opinion.I noticed quite a few campgrounds and many were listed in the CSJ guides for Norte and if I recall finisterre (or was it Muxia?). Didn't pay attention on the CF. I'm glad to see many are responsible about camping but with so many campgrounds why not support the local economy rather than sleep in someone's land hoping they don't catch you? I like to treat others as I would be treated--being a pilgrim is not carte Blanche --one should pay for food eaten, and the place where you rest your head at night. Do do otherwise is more than 'technically' stealing. I'm frustrated enough cleaning up my yard from others' pets, discarded food wrappers, etc. I can only imagine the trial of thousands of people who think "well, I'M not disturbing much.
I noticed quite a few campgrounds and many were listed in the CSJ guides for Norte and if I recall finisterre (or was it Muxia?). Didn't pay attention on the CF. I'm glad to see many are responsible about camping but with so many campgrounds why not support the local economy rather than sleep in someone's land hoping they don't catch you? I like to treat others as I would be treated--being a pilgrim is not carte Blanche --one should pay for food eaten, and the place where you rest your head at night. Do do otherwise is more than 'technically' stealing. I'm frustrated enough cleaning up my yard from others' pets, discarded food wrappers, etc. I can only imagine the trial of thousands of people who think "well, I'M not disturbing much.
hear this comment many times about supporting the local economy and the the other avoiding getting caught.. firstly I tent some times & do support the local economy.....sleeping in my tent or hotel/albergue...I spend a on average at least 5,ooo euros per camino.....treating other people because I can......I make a donation to a local child in Santiago.. put more in a donativo if camping in the garden than a private albergue......I wild camp because I am a veteran and have PTSD. and believe me no one would like to hear me if I was to have a nightmare.so sometimes I need to be away completely...I wild camp rarely because I can and a contribute buy spending in the town to compensate..also if you look into the LAW some people have special dispensation to camp if they are ill..the police always know were I am because I informed them.
a lot of people wild camp who are totally unaware of any restriction..and you have know way of knowing what contribution someone may make who wild camps some times.
I have also paid to sleep in a private albergue before now. and gave my bed up when the albergue was full to a more in need pilgrim and wild camped...maybe someone saw me an thought the same as you did.
rubbish annoys me as much the next person,so I pick some up as and when....toilet waste is most probably done as I have seen a few times by pilgrims just walking alone..not by me and if I was to go in the outdoors I carry a orange trowel
don't know who these people you mention who do not pay for food..
bit of distorting thinking here and judging..I really would have to warp my mind a lot to imagine pilgrims"thousands of them as you say
"I can only imagine the trial of thousands of people who think "well, I'M not disturbing much"
I am also a veteran with PTSD. I'm not saying you have to stay in albergues, or that you can't camp. I'm merely pointing out there is no good excuse for taking something without paying for it. You want or need to camp--use a campground rather than trespass. Do you regularly let strangers sleep in your yard at home? I know that would ramp up my PTSD--how do you know how the landowner feels about complete strangers encroaching on their space. don't use someone's land in Spain without permission just because you're 'a pilgrim.' If you can't afford campground fees or a pension, and can't use an albergue, then wait until treatment has made albergues tolerable or you've saved enough for the campground fee--do you think it's OK to stow away on an airline to get to Spain? There are costs to making the trip--food and lodging are two of them.
I'm saying this again--being a pilgrim does not entitle anyone to steal food or sleep on private property, anymore than it does in the US (or wherever home is). If you can't respect the rights and personal property of others in the generous host nation, stay home.
Sorry about this in advance...
By freecamping you are not taking anything, so there is nothing to pay for. That is the point. It is not even trespassing in my view either, what is trespassing got to do with sleeping on a picnic table or in a church porch? You ask do I regularly let strangers sleep in my yard at home? What on earth do you think freecamping is? I have never slept in someone’s yard!!!! Have you ever had a sleep in a park or on the trail on the Camino? It’s the same thing. As for not paying the campground fee, you are saying that there is one always nearby, I don’t think so! I think your view of freecamping is very elitist and US centric. There is certainly not this view in Europe where it is understood and tolerated. Yes there are costs to making the trip, but not everyone can afford as much as others. Walking back from Santiago to Leon to catch the coach home I had 2 Euro’s a day to spend. And I did fine thank you. I have met many pilgrims traveling with no money whatsoever, nothing, and they did fine too. They either played music, sang, washed and cleaned or otherwise helped out where they could. Many I saw were allowed to sleep outside of cafes on the Camino. I received a warm welcome freecamping across both France and Spain, locals actually came and asked if they could help in cases too.
From a UK veteran with PTSD also (There seems a lot of us about)
Davey
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Orisson: could've camped at Refuge Orisson but it was pouring so we took a bed
Roncevalles: could've camped at the Municipal but again it was pouring so we took a bed
Zubiri: saw campers along the river right in town, but we were told by many locals that it wasn't allowed so we walked on and camped along the trail just outside of town.
Villava: stayed in albergue bed
Puente La Reina: camped at Albergue Santiago Apostle
Estella: camped at Camping Lizarra, just past Estella. Large family resort-style Spanish campground. Was very expensive.
Los Arcos: wild camped a few km past town, nice benches that made for a campsite
Logrono: stayed in albergue bed
Najera: camped at Camping El Ruedo, inside the town's old bull ring. Beautiful spot!
Santo Domingo de la Calzada: camped at a large family resort-style campground outside of town a bit
Belorado: stayed in albergue dorm because none of the albergues with gardens in this town would allow us to camp
Ages: camped in front of village church, locals said we could, but it was noisy!
Burgos: stayed in albergue bed
Boadilla del Camino: camped at Albergue En el camino, an oasis!
Sahagun: camped at large family resort-style campground just past town
Leon: stayed in albergue bed
Villar de Mazarife: stayed in a bed at Albergue San Antonio de Padua because it was so highly recommended, and it was worth it!
Astorga: stayed in an albergue bed
Rabanal del Camino: camped at the municipal hostel, nice set up for campers
Riego de Ambros: free camping at a great restaurant with lovely mother/daughter owners called Meson de Jardin Andurina, about 1km past town.
Cacabelos: stayed in municipal albergue bed
La Faba: camped at German Ultreya hostel right as you come into the village
Baisa A Ferreira: camped at Albergue El Beso Ecologico, beautiful spot on the less walked route
Barbedelo: camped at Casa de Carmen for free but paid to use showers, amazing dinner here!
Airexe: camped for free at a restaurant at the far end of town
Ribadiso da Baixo: camped at the first albergue in town along the river
Monte do Gozo: stayed in an albergue bed because the town campground was closed, could've camped a few km before Monte do Gozo, can't remember which town it was but very close to Monte and right on the camino
Hope this is helpful for someone out there, I know the few tips I got beforehand were very helpful!
...Do you regularly let strangers sleep in your yard at home? ...
Just one point to consider: There is nothing like 'free land' in continental Europe. Every piece of land belongs to somebody and that somebody has he right to decide if they want to have people camping there or not. Buen Camino, SY