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- May-June 2024
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As discussed in another recent thread, "occasionally" a hospitalero/a may make an exception to the normal rules of a particular albergue. If the person in charge uses an extra dose of compassion in weighing certain situations, apparently exceptions are sometimes made at their discretion.Yes it is okay; you do you; in 2021 I had to do that very thing after spending the previous evening in the hospital from travel fatigue. They welcomed me with open arms and honored my reservation.
Your personal reasons are what they are, but if they're medical or similar, maybe stay an extra day in SJPP ?Is it OK to take a taxi to Orisson on Day 1 from SJPDP, stay overnight then continue the walk the next day to Roncesvalles?
Personal reason, please no judgement.
Yes it is okay; you do you;
We don't know what the reasons are and we don't know how the proprietors will respond. The suggestion to ask directly is a good one. As discussed on other recent threads, some albergues are stricter than others, with their policies. We should not assume what their decision will be.I’m sure the proprietor would understand
That will be no problem at all.Interesting because I’m planning to do the same thing, however I plan to start in the morning. I’ve stayed in that albergue, not at the top of my list. I’m planning on a cup of coffee there and being on my way.
I don't know what you have acclimatize to. You're not scaling Mt Everest.To be honest, it's arthritis in both knees (I'm only 59). I really want to see the top of the Pyranees, but I know walking the entire route would be difficult. After Orisson, I would be fine.
My preference would be to stay over night and acclimatize then carry on.
I will ask the Albergue.
Thanks! Great suggestions. I will look at taxi from SJPDP to the Virgin and carry on from there. Thanks for not judging (too much of that on FB)
Yes, but please don't try to circumvent the rules that establishments have made for themselves.You do you. It’s your Camino.
Your Camino is yours simple and straightforward. Otherwise you can walk it your own way as long as you complete, the last 100 km from SarriaIs it OK to take a taxi to Orisson on Day 1 from SJPDP, stay overnight then continue the walk the next day to Roncesvalles?
Personal reason, please no judgement.
I am doing the CF in May of this year with two bad knees,your comments intrigues me, I had asked on an earlier forum about other descents ( downhill is the harder for me ) that i should be aware of and prepare for that are difficult due to my knees so i would appreciate anything you can tell me. I do better if i know what i have to prepare for.I feel you. I have arthritis too but Frances was manageable. Just did a TKR and hopefully Norte in September So, taxi to the Virgin (can’t remember the name but there is a company that does a daily service) and walk after that. That takes most of the steep part out of it. Having said that, there are other parts of the journey that are pretty much as steep and for me it’s the downhill that’s the killer, not so much the uphill. Like Zubiri, and after the Alto de Perdón. Still, worth it. Good luck anyway and Buen Camino.
The descent from the top to Roncesvalles might be harder on your knees than the first part up to Orisson.To be honest, it's arthritis in both knees
... After Orisson, I would be fine.
I find uphill harder due to the uphill force required as I push with each step. Downhill can be more manageable provided I use my poles and use them properly, making sure I use both upper body strength to take the downhill pressure off my knees.I am doing the CF in May of this year with two bad knees,your comments intrigues me, I had asked on an earlier forum about other descents ( downhill is the harder for me ) that i should be aware of and prepare for that are difficult due to my knees so i would appreciate anything you can tell me. I do better if i know what i have to prepare for.
It can be for sure. I'm better at using my poles going downhill then uphill. There's less force required and I can balance my weight by using my arms and upper body.The descent from the top to Roncesvalles might be harder on your knees than the first part up to Orisson.
I will take a taxi up to Orisson and stop for a coffee or possibly to the Virgin and continue from there.Interesting because I’m planning to do the same thing, however I plan to start in the morning. I’ve stayed in that albergue, not at the top of my list. I’m planning on a cup of coffee there and being on my way.
Good point, thank youI don't know what you have acclimatize to. You're not scaling Mt Everest.
The walk to Roncesvalles is basically in the foothills of the Pyrenees - no where near the highest peaks.
The walk to Orisson is the steepest part of the stage, so I recommend doing as @Charte57 suggests - take a taxi there, or even farther up, in the morning and start walking. Look at the service of Express Bourricot's Mountain Shuttle
Good points. I won't be able to complete more than a week, not due to the arthritis, I just don't have the luxury of 4 or 5 weeks to walk the Camino.The seeming universal obsession with St Jean, Orisson/Borda, and the “Pyrenees” bewilders this old grump. The Camino, even “that” Camino doesn’t start there, doesn’t require an obligatory stay in any particular “renowned” establishment and definitely doesn’t require any effort to circumvent the rules of that establishment or any other.
The OP Is coming all the way from Canada to walk a week of Camino. They’ve previously posted about walking from Sarria. For me, given their mobility issues as advised, Sarria to Santiago seems a likely more satisfying journey than from halfway up a hill to somewhere. But I’m not them so what do I know
@batty, excellent question. I will reply privately to you to avoid hijacking this thread.I am doing the CF in May of this year with two bad knees,your comments intrigues me, I had asked on an earlier forum about other descents ( downhill is the harder for me ) that i should be aware of and prepare for that are difficult due to my knees so i would appreciate anything you can tell me. I do better if i know what i have to prepare for.
I am doing the CF in May of this year with two bad knees,your comments intrigues me, I had asked on an earlier forum about other descents ( downhill is the harder for me ) that i should be aware of and prepare for that are difficult due to my knees so i would appreciate anything you can tell me. I do better if i know what i have to prepare for.
Possibly not. There are two routes downhill to Roncesvalles and you may find the "official" route to be quite difficult. Please read the thread https://www.caminodesantiago.me/community/threads/descent-into-roncesvalles.85204/To be honest, it's arthritis in both knees (I'm only 59). I really want to see the top of the Pyranees, but I know walking the entire route would be difficult. After Orisson, I would be fine.
Absolutely right. If one has knee issues the forest route is a non starter. I found the alternative route quite challenging enough.Possibly not. There are two routes downhill to Roncesvalles and you may find the "official" route to be quite difficult. Please read the thread https://www.caminodesantiago.me/community/threads/descent-into-roncesvalles.85204/
Another, older thread helps you navigate so you descend on your chosen route.
There is a reason why in my world of ACW reenactment/living history we used to refer to our wives as "6-Star Generals"After walking it twice, my wife- on seeing it from a rental car in 2018 - ordered me to NEVER do that segment again (she does not do Camino). She instructed me to use the shuttle services to the top. So, the next time, I am "under orders."
Hope this helps,
Tom
OK I see -- sounds like a plan.Good points. I won't be able to complete more than a week, not due to the arthritis, I just don't have the luxury of 4 or 5 weeks to walk the Camino.
So I am interested in stages over the next 2 or 3 years adding longer time when it permits.
Booking ahead makes more sense on SJPP > Pamplona than elsewhere, but after that booking ahead just a day or two beforehand is sufficient.I have friends who struggled to find accommodations and that is not something I want to add to my Camino, so I plan accordingly. I will book ahead for whatever leg I decide on.
But it’s such a lovely walk!You could also ride a taxi or shuttle van to the point at which the Camino leaves the road to the right and heads to the nearby Spanish frontier. That is at the top-most point of the climb out of Saint Jean Pied de Port.
This leap-frog move, cuts about 10km from the overall distance to Roncesvalles - making it a decent single day walk. At that point, there is more down walking than up.
Express Bourricot and other services offer such shuttle services. Not every pilgrim long and steep first day climb out of Saint Jean Pied de Port. After walking it twice, my wife- on seeing it from a rental car in 2018 - ordered me to NEVER do that segment again (she does not do Camino). She instructed me to use the shuttle services to the top. So, the next time, I am "under orders."
Hope this helps,
Tom
I’d second this strategy. Laurent is an amazing host and the albergue is clean and exceptionally well thought out. The communal dinner is a highlight, both for the meal itself and the folk you meet. Borda rocketed to my top five favourites last year.Albergues are getting stricter each year so those who have done it before were lucky.
Their website says no... so what I would do is book lodging in SJPP, spend the night THERE, then take the shuttle up to Orisson next morning for coffee, and head on to Roncesvalles.
On the OTHER hand, have you checked to see if you can get into BORDA?
It is just a short distance past Orisson and Laurent usually doesn't get there until 2 pm, so if you taxi'd up to Orisson then walked to Borda, I doubt anyone ask questions if you didn't volunteer information.
Just sayin'
His price includes dinner and breakfast.
It's one of my favorite auberges on the Camino these days!
True! The views are absolutely wonderful.But it’s such a lovely walk!
And the last half has three quarters of the elevation gain!But, coming up on my 71st birthday, I am compelled to accept that not every pilgrim can handle the long, steep(ish) 8 km climb out of SJPdP.
Rick, I definitely remember that very well as I huffed and puffed up what seemed to be a never ending incline!And the last half has three quarters of the elevation gain!
But, in my recollection, it is undulating, up and down. Whereas, the first 8 km to Orisson are a constant, unrelenting climb. A lot of elevation gain in a shorter distance.
There is a nice semi-short FULL Camino that starts from Ferrol to Santiago....Camino Ingles....Five to 7 days depending on you and your walking ability.....Please consider.....PaulGood points. I won't be able to complete more than a week, not due to the arthritis, I just don't have the luxury of 4 or 5 weeks to walk the Camino.
So I am interested in stages over the next 2 or 3 years adding longer time when it permits.
I'm interested to know what some opinions are for a newbie, SJPDP to Pamlona (with a taxi halfway up "that hill") or Sarria to Santiago.
There are many opinions, I'm just trying to figure it out. I'm not necessarily tied to "the Camino will provide ", so I like to plan.
I have friends who struggled to find accommodations and that is not something I want to add to my Camino, so I plan accordingly. I will book ahead for whatever leg I decide on.
Taking a taxi if I start in SJPDP will deduct a day for me, part of the planning process.
If I was 30 or 40 might think differently.
I've had my suffering in life, I don't need it added where I can take it away. Just my honesty
Buen Camino friend!Thanks! Great suggestions. I will look at taxi from SJPDP to the Virgin and carry on from there. Thanks for not judging (too much of that on FB)
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