I don't want to divert this thread but I do want to address an issue raised by
@good_old_shoes .
The things that I want to address are not a "truth". The most effective way for me to discuss this issue is to relate it to my own experience. That doesn't mean that I want this to be about me but for me to explain it any other way would mean that I become "preachy" and that doesn't work, so here goes....
True. But it is still a massively different situation to what many people experience in normal every day life at home.
This is interesting. Does the Camino create a new us when we are on a Camino or do we create this different from normal experience that some people notice on Camino?
Around 32 years ago I did a seminar and during a break I found myself talking to one of the other participants. This other person said to me "aren't we so lucky that everyone here on this seminar is so nice".
This started me thinking because I had been having similar thoughts and it wasn't until this other person reflected these thoughts back to me that I started to realise that something different from my normal experience of life was happening.
There were about 350 people at that seminar and they were probably the most diverse group of people that I had ever been in the same room, together with, in my life.
I asked myself, "how could it possibly be that such a diverse group of people who seemingly had little in common except for a desire to seek knowledge could possibly be so nice?".
Over the course of the seminar I was able to answer my own question.
For me, the answer wasn't that somehow, magically, other people were being nice but instead I was being more open than I normally would have been in my everyday life.
There were several factors contributing to my openness. Firstly the structure and organisation of the seminar emphasised safety. Secondly, as far as I knew I didn't know anyone else there and so I was relatively anonymous and so it was easier to be open. Thirdly the group was big enough that it was hard for me (or anyone else) to stand out and so again this strengthened my anonymity.
Lastly, not only did this environment encourage openness on my part but for many other participants (probably most) the environment was having the same effect on other people as it was having on me and so mostly everyone else was being really open as well.
Result: I agreed that this was probably the nicest group of people that I had ever encountered in such large numbers. Even more amazingly the group was composed of people who if I had met them in different circumstances I probably would not have described them so readily as "nice people".
It's a certain kind of people who go on that kind of pilgrimage,
I disagree that it is the kind of people who go on pilgrimage that makes the difference. I think that all different sorts of people do a pilgrimage for a wide variety of reasons and that it isn't the kind of person that they are that links them.
and the pilgrimage situation makes many people more open than they'd be at home.
I agree with this but with some important provisos that I hope that I have started to uncover in my opening remarks.
At least the "overall pilgrim population" I've met so far, and the way they behaved, is very different from the random strangers I encounter in the streets at home.
I think that the random strangers that I meet on Camino are no different from the random strangers that I meet at home.
I think that the differences aren't in the people that I meet but rather are differences in who I am being when I am on Camino. In addition, it also helps that the Camino has a reputation for being a safe place to be open and that I am relatively anonymous when I am on Camino.
Of course, if this is how I am being when I am on Camino then there are probably others like me who are also not being their normal self when they are on Camino.
After my Caminos, I now try to say "hello" to everyone I meet when walking here at home in the woods. I rarely get a "hello" back and only sometimes a smile. Often people just look at me as If I've lost my mind. Try asking a stranger to sit at the same table in a café... not going to happen. People want to stay for themselves here, it would be extremely intrusive to even ask. Whenever I offered, sitting alone at a table for three or four people in a busy café, people kept standing and waited for another table to clear.
Again I would like to disagree with you that it is not worthwhile trying to talk to strangers in a café or share a table with strangers outside of a Camino.
A very long time ago when I was a teen-ager and into my early 20's I was relatively good looking but very awkward socially and I rarely had a date. In fact I was so socially awkward that I ended up marrying the first woman who went out with me more than twice
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On the other hand I had a friend who was slightly odd looking but he always had a date and sometimes more than one at the same time!
Eventually I was intrigued enough that I asked him what his secret was. Doughnut, he said, you are so scared of being rejected that you only ever ask females who you are reasonably sure will say yes to you and even then you probably still get a no about two in three times.
I, on the other hand, have mostly gotten over my fear of rejection and so I ask females every chance I get, even when sometimes I secretly think that there is no chance that they will say yes. On average only one in ten say yes but some days I will ask 20 different women and that is how I almost always have a date whereas you are lucky to get two or three dates a year!
I have more or less gotten over my fear of rejection and so I often talk to strangers, particularly on public transport where they are conveniently close to me and often on longer journeys by aeroplane or train when the voyage might otherwise be a bit boring.
I don't strike up conversations because I want a date, I talk because I am interested in other people. I am also more sensitive to social signals these days and so if I sense that the other person does not want to talk then I don't push myself onto them.
So for me, the social side of the Camino is extremely different from what I experience at home in everyday life.
It may well be but it need not be.
And with this I have to strongly disagree:
That basically means it's your own fault if you're surrounded by negative and toxic people, and whereever you go, it will be the same - only those who experience love and kindness on a daily basis at home will have the same on the Camino?
The word "fault" and it's near neighbour in this context "victim" have lots and lots of emotion connected to them and so I prefer to use a different word, "responsible" that is less emotive.
Back to that seminar that I mentioned earlier. At the time that I did that seminar my world was collapsing around me. My marriage was basically over despite my having promised myself that I would not repeat my parents mistakes; I was on the verge of being fired from my job and everywhere I looked in my life there was a huge mess and upset on top of upset.
As I did the seminar I got to see that I had a couple of alternate choices about how I could see my life.
1 Basically I was a passenger in my own life. Sure I could make a few choices here and there but mostly my life was something that happened to me and by and large I was not responsible for how I lived it.
2 There were some things that were out of my control (it rained today; the bus broke down this morning and so wasn't at the bus stop when I expected it for my journey to work). Apart from those things, I was responsible for everything else that happened in my life, including how I responded to the things that were out of my control.
Just a reminder that I am not saying that this is the truth, nor that it applies to anyone except me.
Given those two choices, I chose number two.
At the time of making that choice I looked back at my life and I was deeply depressed. Thinking about my life at that time I wouldn't have wished it on my worst enemy. Why had I done that to myself?
After wallowing in my depression for a couple of days I was able to take my attention off the past and I applied it to now.
The benefit of taking responsibility for my life is that I now have the ability to direct it in any direction that I choose and I am no longer bound to repeat my previous actions nor emulate my parents.
For me, taking total responsibility for my life is not a burden but rather the ultimate freedom.