Sleeping bag or liner in May?

[grimgram1378]

Hi All,
I’m Graham and I’m doing the Camino Frances from SJPDP starting second week of May 2023. (First timer)
Just asking is a sleeping bag necessary, or would a liner be enough?
I’m from N.Ireland so I’m used to a bit of cold weather.
Any comments/advice would be most appreciated.
G

 

[stevepjq]

Definitely just a liner. I've started from SJPP last week of March and only had a liner.

 

[grimgram1378]

Definitely just a liner. I've started from SJPP last week of March and only had a liner.

Thanks Stevepjq. Saves on a little extra weight!

 

[Tincatinker]

I wouldn’t even bother with the liner. Sleep naked and the opprobrium will keep you warm

Well, truth be told, I always take my sleeping bag. May to October I can sleep wherever the fancy or the road takes me. October to May I’ll seek shelter as required

 

[grimgram1378]

I wouldn’t even bother with the liner. Sleep naked and the opprobrium will keep you warm

Well, truth be told, I always take my sleeping bag. May to October I can sleep wherever the fancy or the road takes me. October to May I’ll seek shelter as required

Worth a try if stuck . At least I’ll get to spend the night in a cell

 

[Camino Chrissy]

If/when sleeping in albergues, I always bring my lightweight Naturehike sleeping bag when walking in mid-April and May, and have never regretted having it with me.

 

[Anniesantiago]

I take my sleeping bag
I've FROZEN in June!

 

[Grousedoctor]

I can remember a very chilly day in late-May after walking for hours in the Galician rain. Very glad to have had my sleeping bag to curl up in. A light weight 1-season bag (1 to 1.5 lbs) hardly weighs much more than a liner. I carry my sleeping bag on all my Caminos. Knowing that I have 12-15 miles to walk the next day, the last thing I want is a poor night’s sleep because I was cold.

 

[C clearly]

The only sure answer is that you will "definitely" need to decide whether the risk of being cold is balanced by the work of carrying the sleeping bag, based on your typical comfort levels, the weather, what type of accommodation you will use, and what other layers you will have to wear on a chilly night.

 

[dougfitz]

I have always carried a sleeping bag, even in May. I don't tolerate mummy bags, so I accept the weight penalty of carrying a light, semi-rectangular bag that can open out as a quilt. I carry a permethrin treated liner that I can use even when I might not be using the bag, eg if I stay in a hostel. Could I just carry the liner? Perhaps, but I'm not inclined to give away the flexibility it gives me in where I can stay.

 

[Rebequa]

I have always carried a sleeping bag, even in May. I don't tolerate mummy bags, so I accept the weight penalty of carrying a light, semi-rectangular bag that can open out as a quilt. I carry a permethrin treated liner that I can use even when I might not be using the bag, eg if I stay in a hostel. Could I just carry the liner? Perhaps, but I'm not inclined to give away the flexibility it gives me in where I can stay.

Thanks for this. I’ll be walking is May-June too. Very sensible. I walked from Astorga in July with just a liner, but I wouldn’t do that again since I had to wear all my clothes more than once. Was fine, but not necessary.

 

[Camino Chrissy]

I had to wear all my clothes more than once.

Me, too. Even with my lightweight sleeping bag there were more than a few times I wore my fleece quarter zip to bed in late April and into May.

 

[grimgram1378]

Thanks for this. I’ll be walking is May-June too. Very sensible. I walked from Astorga in July with just a liner, but I wouldn’t do that again since I had to wear all my clothes more than once. Was fine, but not necessary.

Thanks Rebequa, perhaps I’ll see you ong the Way!

 

[grimgram1378]

Thanks everyone for your kind comments, I had originally been advised that a liner would do the job but from reading your comments and advice I think I’ll bring along an ultra lightweight sleeping bag too. I’m not pre-booking any accommodation apart from the first night in SJPDP and I do enjoy the occasional night in the great outdoors so best come prepared! Buen Camino

 

[snuz55]

Hi All,
I’m Graham and I’m doing the Camino Frances from SJPDP starting second week of May 2023. (First timer)
Just asking is a sleeping bag necessary, or would a liner be enough?
I’m from N.Ireland so I’m used to a bit of cold weather.
Any comments/advice would be most appreciated.
G

I did the walk in May from Leon in 2014 and only used a liner. You will be going over some higher elevations but I had no issues.

 

[Lizhk]

Hi,
I always take a cotton/silk liner and a very compact lightweight down throw to give me a choice. Since you will likely be sleeping on a mattress, you don’t need to worry about insulation under you and the sleep liner, especially if it has some silk provides some warmth.
Another option is to look for a very warm liner and skip the down throw. Here's some info on liners:

How to Choose Sleeping Bag Liners | REI Co-op

If you are a backpacker or a hostel traveler, you may have heard others talk about the joys of sleeping bag liners. This article gives you the basics of how to shop for one.

www.rei.com

For down throws, look carefully at weight and the size it compresses to:
https://www.outdoorgearlab.com/topics/camping-and-hiking/best-camping-blanket
Buen camino

 

[grimgram1378]

Hi,
I always take a cotton/silk liner and a very compact lightweight down throw to give me a choice. Since you will likely be sleeping on a mattress, you don’t need to worry about insulation under you and the sleep liner, especially if it has some silk provides some warmth.
Another option is to look for a very warm liner and skip the down throw. Here's some info on liners:

How to Choose Sleeping Bag Liners | REI Co-op

If you are a backpacker or a hostel traveler, you may have heard others talk about the joys of sleeping bag liners. This article gives you the basics of how to shop for one.

www.rei.com

For down throws, look carefully at weight and the size it compresses to:
https://www.outdoorgearlab.com/topics/camping-and-hiking/best-camping-blanket
Buen camino

Thanks Lizhk. Thats really useful.

 

[Roscoe]

If/when sleeping in albergues, I always bring my lightweight Naturehike sleeping bag when walking in mid-April and May, and have never regretted having it with me.

On the recommendation of a friend, I have purchased the same sleeping bag. Cheaper and more versatile than a quality liner.

 

[Camino Chrissy]

On the recommendation of a friend, I have purchased the same sleeping bag. Cheaper and more versatile than a quality liner.

One of the things I really like about it is the comfy feel of the fabric as it does not have that awful slippery feel like cheaper bags usually do, nor does it slide round on the plastic mattress covers that are often used.

 

[CWBuff]

I did fine witha liner.... so whatever strikes your fancy
Buen Camino

 

[SeñorJacques]

I walked in May 2022 with a liner and light throw blanket. Gave away the blanket by the time I got to Pamplona and was fine the rest of the way. The one or two nights I felt chilly, I just put on an extra layer of clothing.

 

[M and M]

On the recommendation of a friend, I have purchased the same sleeping bag. Cheaper and more versatile than a quality liner.

Which Naturehike model did you select?

 

[David Tallan]

I've now got a liner that has a lightweight quilt on one side. This gives me the flexibility to put quilt side up if it is cold and sheet side up if it is hot.

 

[Delphinoula]

I like things that may have more the one use.
A pareo served a beach blanket, light weight cover, a modesty curtain and a towel. And yes where they come from men wear it. That may be your liner.
A mummy sleeping back was utterly uncomfortable for me having to peel myself out of it in the morning.
So see what’s the coldest and whats the warmest recorded temperature in your timeframe and test sleep.
My solution was an old Army quilt. Which can serve as blanket or a poncho or a sunshade, when not used as a blanket it was my pillowcase.

 

[Rebequa]

To clarify, I'll use both my liner and blanket, putting the blanket inside the liner. David Tallans liner-quilt combo sounds really good!

 

[RRat]

I can remember a very chilly day in late-May after walking for hours in the Galician rain. Very glad to have had my sleeping bag to curl up in. A light weight 1-season bag (1 to 1.5 lbs) hardly weighs much more than a liner. I carry my sleeping bag on all my Caminos. Knowing that I have 12-15 miles to walk the next day, the last thing I want is a poor night’s sleep because I was cold.

Best response ever! Thanks.

 

[Pronetowander]

Hi All,
I’m Graham and I’m doing the Camino Frances from SJPDP starting second week of May 2023. (First timer)
Just asking is a sleeping bag necessary, or would a liner be enough?
I’m from N.Ireland so I’m used to a bit of cold weather.
Any comments/advice would be most appreciated.
G

I only had a liner and was sorry I didnt have a light sleeping bag as I found the liners awkard to get in and out of. Maybe if it had a zip but mine didn't. The sleeping bag can become a blanket when needed and in my opinion is more versatile. And it gives better cushioning on the plastic bed covering..

 

[grimgram1378]

I only had a liner and was sorry I didnt have a light sleeping bag as I found the liners awkard to get in and out of. Maybe if it had a zip but mine didn't. The sleeping bag can become a blanket when needed and in my opinion is more versatile. And it gives better cushioning on the plastic bed covering..

I was just wondering that last night. How do you get into a liner on a bunk bed without shaking the frame and bunk partner at that. What if I have to use the loo in the middle of the night?? More shaking and fumbling about!! A light sleeping bag seems to make more sense now. Thanks

 

[Snowflake5090]

Hi All,
I’m Graham and I’m doing the Camino Frances from SJPDP starting second week of May 2023. (First timer)
Just asking is a sleeping bag necessary, or would a liner be enough?
I’m from N.Ireland so I’m used to a bit of cold weather.
Any comments/advice would be most appreciated.
G

I walked the CF last May and I only ever used my liner. At one point I was tempted to ditch my sleeping bag but it was so lightweight I thought better of it. I found most Albergues supplied wool blankets for those slightly chillier nights. But I must add we were lucky to have walked during an unusual heatwave for that time of year. Buen Camino.

 

[grimgram1378]

I decided to go with this little gem…

Buy Highlander Trekker Superlite | Small Pack Size Sleeping Bag | 1-2 Season

The Highlander Trekker Superlite has been designed to have the smallest pack size whilst offering 1-2 season performance.

www.gapyeartravelstore.com

Thank You all for your comments and advice. I just don’t trust weather forecasts these days so better safe than sorry. Besides a liner may not be the best idea for the occasional morning glory Buen Camino!

 

[Pronetowander]

I was just wondering that last night. How do you get into a liner on a bunk bed without shaking the frame and bunk partner at that. What if I have to use the loo in the middle of the night?? More shaking and fumbling about!! A light sleeping bag seems to make more sense now. Thanks

Yes, less fumbling about with a sleeping bag. Hope you have a wonderful Camino. Lots of trial and error but then you find out what works best for you. It's all part of the fun too. ☘

 

[Pam s]

Hi All,
I’m Graham and I’m doing the Camino Frances from SJPDP starting second week of May 2023. (First timer)
Just asking is a sleeping bag necessary, or would a liner be enough?
I’m from N.Ireland so I’m used to a bit of cold weather.
Any comments/advice would be most appreciated.
G

We always take a quilt cover because all the hostels provide blankets, and if you get into the cotton bag, it does instead of sheets

 

[Henriettagal]

Hi All,
I’m Graham and I’m doing the Camino Frances from SJPDP starting second week of May 2023. (First timer)
Just asking is a sleeping bag necessary, or would a liner be enough?
I’m from N.Ireland so I’m used to a bit of cold weather.
Any comments/advice would be most appreciated.
G

I started my Camino in SJPDP May 4 and I used my sleeping bag (very very light weight) every night. I also had a liner. At times in some albergues it was nice to have the liner to lay on the mattress (many are plastic) and put my bag on top. Plus, I never sherpa. I carry my full pack because you never know what you might need along the trail and I wanted the camino to be a random adventure (I never prebooked accommodations) I liked knowing I had my sleeping bag with me if I were unable to find a bed. I could lay my poncho down and climb into that sleeping bag. Buen Camino.

 

[grimgram1378]

I started my Camino in SJPDP May 4 and I used my sleeping bag (very very light weight) every night. I also had a liner. At times in some albergues it was nice to have the liner to lay on the mattress (many are plastic) and put my bag on top. Plus, I never sherpa. I carry my full pack because you never know what you might need along the trail and I wanted the camino to be a random adventure (I never prebooked accommodations) I liked knowing I had my sleeping bag with me if I were unable to find a bed. I could lay my poncho down and climb into that sleeping bag. Buen Camino.

I like that idea

 

[mattythedog]

I've now got a liner that has a lightweight quilt on one side. This gives me the flexibility to put quilt side up if it is cold and sheet side up if it is hot.

David, that sounds like a great option. What is brand and model of that liner? I have been using a $25 Coleman fleece liner for last 6 Caminos (April/May, June/July, Sept/Oct) as a sleeping bag is usually too hot and heavy. There have been a few times where a warmer upper side would be nice.

 

[David Tallan]

David, that sounds like a great option. What is brand and model of that liner? I have been using a $25 Coleman fleece liner for last 6 Caminos (April/May, June/July, Sept/Oct) as a sleeping bag is usually too hot and heavy. There have been a few times where a warmer upper side would be nice.

The brand is Camino+Casa. It is a custom Camino sleeping solution by @trecile. I'm not sure if she is still making them but I expect she might be willing to share what she did to put them together.

 

[NomadBoomer]

Sleeping bag 100%. I followed the general advice on the forum and left my lightweight one behind on my first CF starting in September. Big mistake! First night out Roncesvalles there are no blankets. Freezing little sleep even tho I wore all of my clothes in bed. I bought a so so bag on the way. If you are going to be using mostly Albergues bring a lightweight bag and a silk liner. On my 3 caminos I've probably been glad to have a bag 25% of the nights that's a lot of nights.

 

[Zordmot]

Hi All,
I’m Graham and I’m doing the Camino Frances from SJPDP starting second week of May 2023. (First timer)
Just asking is a sleeping bag necessary, or would a liner be enough?
I’m from N.Ireland so I’m used to a bit of cold weather.
Any comments/advice would be most appreciated.
G

I’ve walked the CF twice starting April 28 and carried a lightweight sleeping bag. Some nights I crawled into it and shivered, some nights I slept on top of it, and some nights I opened it and used it like a quilt. Many albergues offer a big pile of warm woolen blankets. With just a liner on a cooler night you could put one blanket under you and another one on top

 

[stuwmson]

Hi All,
I’m Graham and I’m doing the Camino Frances from SJPDP starting second week of May 2023. (First timer)
Just asking is a sleeping bag necessary, or would a liner be enough?
I’m from N.Ireland so I’m used to a bit of cold weather.
Any comments/advice would be most appreciated.
G

two liners the first being bug repellant second down to 55 degrees. with all the other folks sleeping in beds around you. air temperature rarely goes go below 50. another additional technique is sleeping in your next day's underwear. sleeping bags not necessary. have a great adventure. buen camino stuart

 

[Mindfull]

I've now got a liner that has a lightweight quilt on one side. This gives me the flexibility to put quilt side up if it is cold and sheet side up if it is hot.

That might be genius. Brand?

 

[David Tallan]

That might be genius. Brand?

The brand is "Camino+Casa". It was handmade by a forum member. I'm told the Camino Traveller sleeping bag, offered here in Canada by MEC is similar, although it isn't nearly as pretty as mine and doesn't have the cord system for securing it to the mattress. But it does have the quilted-on-one-side flexibility.

 

[Zordmot]

I agree with all the advice here to bring a light bag. I’ve walked my 3 Caminos in May. The first one I brought just a liner and experienced very cold, sleepless nights until I purchased an ultralight bag in Burgos and have used it ever since. There are so many variables such as some church albergues are just really cold places, some albergues are hot and stuffy, sometimes there’s a guy that insists on opening the windows, and I find mattresses covered with that rubber liner just feel cold to me.

OK Graham, I reverse the question to you: this May I’ll be bicycle touring in Ireland!! My route takes me from Dublin to Cork and then up the Wild Atlantic Way. Will my lightweight sleeping bag be enough or will I long for my 3 season bag?

Buen Camino!

 

[grimgram1378]

I agree with all the advice here to bring a light bag. I’ve walked my 3 Caminos in May. The first one I brought just a liner and experienced very cold, sleepless nights until I purchased an ultralight bag in Burgos and have used it ever since. There are so many variables such as some church albergues are just really cold places, some albergues are hot and stuffy, sometimes there’s a guy that insists on opening the windows, and I find mattresses covered with that rubber liner just feel cold to me.

OK Graham, I reverse the question to you: this May I’ll be bicycle touring in Ireland!! My route takes me from Dublin to Cork and then up the Wild Atlantic Way. Will my lightweight sleeping bag be enough or will I long for my 3 season bag?

Buen Camino!

Hi Zordmot, Thanks for your advice.
All depends on where you are staying.
If you are camping then definitely a three season bag, but if you are staying in b&bs or hostels then they usually provide sheeting and quilts, and if not a light sleeping bag would do. Most places are heated.
We rarely get long spells of good weather in Ireland. The west coast, and in particular the north-west, is always much more unpredictable than the east.

I hope you enjoy your tour. There are loads of great locations to visit and as well as those you have listed, if you have time I, would recommend cycling the North Coast from Portstewart/Portrush along the coastal way to Larne or Carrickfergus. The views are amazing!
Graham

 

[mattythedog]

I have used a $25 Coleman fleece zippered liner for 5 Caminos over all 3 seasons just fine. A bit heavy at 27 oz, but the price and packed volume was right. It is extremely comfortable bottom and top, and full rectangular shape gives lots of room for me to move around all night. Next week I will do the CF with a Sea to Summit 50 degree Traveler model down sleeping bag. Expensive, but only weighs 15 ounces and packs to 1/3 the size of the Coleman. Figured it was time to treat myself to this luxury. Plus, everything fits with lots of room to spare into my $22 super-cheap Amazon 35 liter rucksack that weighs about 9 ounces; although I am still undecided between that and my tried and true Osprey Talon 33 that weights 2 pounds.

 

[Zordmot]

Hi Zordmot, Thanks for your advice.
All depends on where you are staying.
If you are camping then definitely a three season bag, but if you are staying in b&bs or hostels then they usually provide sheeting and quilts, and if not a light sleeping bag would do. Most places are heated.
We rarely get long spells of good weather in Ireland. The west coast, and in particular the north-west, is always much more unpredictable than the east.

I hope you enjoy your tour. There are loads of great locations to visit and as well as those you have listed, if you have time I, would recommend cycling the North Coast from Portstewart/Portrush along the coastal way to Larne or Carrickfergus. The views are amazing!
Graham

Thanks so much Graham!!!!!