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Only you can decide. Do you sleep hot or cold? Will you have enough clothing layers to sleep in if it's cold? At that time of year most albergues will not be heated, however the body heat of many people sleeping in the same room can't be discounted!I have a liner I will bring, should I bring my compact sleeping bag too?
Awesome,Hope you don't mind, just answered that yesterday:
Hola,
I gearing up to start my 1st CdS and have seen people recommended sleeping bag liners to protect against bed bugs.
Do these help or is it a myth?
Should I add the extra weight of bringing one?
Sorry but the treatments don't generally last that long. I can't remember the exact time frame ( 6 -8 weeks rather than years) and it depends on whether it is factory treated or if you treat it at home.the treated bag liner would be good for camping in my own part of the world.
Good idea. Though mosquitos are rare, permethrin is a mosquito deterrent.I think it might help with bedbugs, and it makes sense to me to do something proactive. However, I also want it to help with mosquitos
It’s a myth.Hola,
I gearing up to start my 1st CdS and have seen people recommended sleeping bag liners to protect against bed bugs.
Do these help or is it a myth?
Should I add the extra weight of bringing one?
I always bring a sleeping bag, even in the Summer months (And I have used it!)Thank you everyone for the helpful information.
I have a liner I will bring, should I bring my compact sleeping bag too?
My CdS starts May 20th and I’m aiming to end June 26.
An untreated liner, or sleeping bag, won't reduce the risk of you being bitten by bed bugs. Treating your bag or liner with pyrethrin or permethrin will reduce that risk, but I don't know of any treatment that will reduce that risk to zero. That would be nirvana!I gearing up to start my 1st CdS and have seen people recommended sleeping bag liners to protect against bed bugs.
Do these help or is it a myth?
It will help, inasmuch as there is scientific evidence that bed bugs that have been exposed to treated fabric are much less likely to go on to consume a blood meal.For what it’s worth, I am taking a pre-treated bag liner and probably a lightweight camping quilt/blanket that I may or may not treat.
I think it might help with bedbugs, and it makes sense to me to do something proactive. However, I also want it to help with mosquitos.
That is true, but from what I recall, it is the nature of the treatment that makes the most difference. Spray on treatments might only be effective for up to half a dozen laundry cycles, generally enough for a stuff you aren't going to launder every day or so on the Camino. Soak in treatments are reported to remain effective for 50 or more laundry cycles.Sorry but the treatments don't generally last that long. I can't remember the exact time frame ( 6 -8 weeks rather than years) and it depends on whether it is factory treated or if you treat it at home.
This is also true, but very few of the commercial products contain pyrethrin as their main active ingredient. That is a plant sourced product. Commercial preparations generally contain permethrin, the synthetic variant, which does not break down so quickly when exposed to air and sunlight.Basically Pyrethrin breaks down with exposure to air and sunlight
And the bedbugs love the way it feels on their itsy-bitsy feetThere is also a popular belief that silk liners have anti-bedbug properties. There is no evidence this is true. But silk is a nice lightweight fabric to use.
Thanks for this Doug, I wasn't aware that the difference between the two was so dramatic. I prefer nature-based products however in this instance I clearly need to do more research. An important consideration for @HeatherJourney and others to consider.Soak in treatments are reported to remain effective for 50 or more laundry cycles.
This is also true, but very few of the commercial products contain pyrethrin as their main active ingredient. That is a plant sourced produce. Commercial preparations generally contain permethrin, the synthetic variant, which does not break down quickly when exposed to air and sunlight.
My guess is that it was luck, or maybe your companion was tastier.Hola, as a lead up to both my 2015 and 2017 I treated my sleeping bag AND the silk liner . Even when my travelling companion was bitten I was not affected. Whether it was the treatment or the silk material I do no know.
Although I have not done the Camino yet, you can google which aromatherapy oils repel bedbugs as well as other critters. Then get a small spray bottle, filled mostly with isopropyl alcohol and add approx.Hola,
I gearing up to start my 1st CdS and have seen people recommended sleeping bag liners to protect against bed bugs.
Do these help or is it a myth?
Should I add the extra weight of bringing one?
The negative side of doing this is that people like me who are allergic to many things can get sick from the scent of your oils, even if they are organic. So if you are in a common space, please do not do this. I used to tell people to spray two or three sprays of mosquito spray over the bed to see if bedbugs would come out, but I never do it when there are people in the room and I use a fragrance free product.Although I have not done the Camino yet, you can google which aromatherapy oils repel bedbugs as well as other critters. Then get a small spray bottle, filled mostly with isopropyl alcohol and add approx.
20 drops of the aromatherapy oil and spray mattress, your sleeping bag, etc .These oils are also good
as antibacterial, some antiviral... Good for hand sanitizing, mosquito repellents. Maybe check out Thieves by Young Living or On Guard by Doterra. This type of product is not cheap but potent and very concentrated.
THANKS SO MUCH FOR SHARING THIS! It is a good reminder....I am so sorry you have these sensitivities. That is a drag!The negative side of doing this is that people like me who are allergic to many things can get sick from the scent of your oils, even if they are organic. So if you are in a common space, please do not do this. I used to tell people to spray two or three sprays of mosquito spray over the bed to see if bedbugs would come out, but I never do it when there are people in the room and I use a fragrance free product.
My thoughts similarly, @JillGat - @Ponch, if you want to bring a sleep sack for the BUGgers, maybe they'll cuddle in their own, and leave you in peace... make peace not war...I read the title of this thread, "Sleep sack for bedbugs", differently.
If the bedbugs want to sleep individually, it would be a challenge to make a sleep sack small enough for one.
But I'm thinking it might be cute if you lined them up on a white cotton shoelace and then folded the bottom up so just their heads were showing.
Well, last year it was quite the topic in the news. Paris metro and British public libraries immediately spring to mind, so.... BUT : So does Chicago, New York, Vancouver, Moscow, Sydney and every other major city in the world. These bloodsuckers are indeed (unfortunately) everywhere.A friend just returned from a luxury trip to Italy in high end hotels. She does not know how she brought bedbugs back to NYC but it was probably in transit. Yikes! So apparently, they can find us EVERYWHERE!
Earlier last year I posted here about the effectiveness of essential oils, including key extracts from a scientific paper that had published results on this.Although I have not done the Camino yet, you can google which aromatherapy oils repel bedbugs as well as other critters. Then get a small spray bottle, filled mostly with isopropyl alcohol and add approx.
20 drops of the aromatherapy oil and spray mattress, your sleeping bag, etc .These oils are also good
as antibacterial, some antiviral... Good for hand sanitizing, mosquito repellents. Maybe check out Thieves by Young Living or On Guard by Doterra. This type of product is not cheap but potent and very concentrated.
That is true. Permethrin is an insecticide, not a repellent. However, even for resistant populations, the scientific evidence is that they are deterred from going on to consume a blood meal after being exposed to permethrin treated fabric. It may not eliminate the risk, but reducing the risk seems to me to be well worth the effort of treating ones sleeping bag and liner.Bed bugs are not deterred by permethrin - it kills them over time, but they can crawl in and have a quick snack.
Naturally, I don't want to be bitten by bed bugs, but my primary concern is that I don't carry them from albergue to albergue, or back home. That is why I use permethrin, which is the only thing that I know of that is scientifically proven to have any effect on bed bugs. I think that it would be reasonable to treat only the lower part of your sleeping bag or liner if you don't want the treated surface near your face. This would still create enough surface area for the bed bugs to be exposed to the permethrin.protect you or others from bed bugs.
Hola,
I gearing up to start my 1st CdS and have seen people recommended sleeping bag liners to protect against bed bugs.
Do these help or is it a myth?
Should I add the extra weight of bringing one?
The more I read about bed bugs,it's putting me off going. I plan to go 23rd of August.FWIW, my experience has been Sarria to Santiago from 31 March to 9 April, somewhat chilly and sometimes down to about 4 C at night. In a mix of bunks and private rooms. I brought a summer weight bag as insurance as I tend to sleep cold. Not once did I need it. In every case, either the room was warm, or else supplied with warm blankets (and in one case, lush down duvets) - or it was both warm and with blankets. None of these were municipal albergues, to be sure...
However, I did use and enjoy my silk bag liner, except in a few cases where the albergue provided both bottom and top sheets.
Some albergues might require sleeping bags OR liners.Some albergues require liners
In my case, on my first Camino I told the hospitalera upon my arrival that there had been bed bugs at my albergue the night before and she took over. She handed me a large towel to wrap around myself and took everything from my backpack to wash and dry. Thus I greeted the incoming pilgrims wearing nothing but a towel.If there is a problem go to the people running the accomodation and they will direct you as to what to do.
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