- Time of past OR future Camino
- Frances 2016; Mansill de las Mulas to Finisterre/Muxia 2017; Aragones 2018; Suso/Yuso, Meseta 2019
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When registering in an albergue I was always asked to show my passport in addition to my credencial. I felt reluctant to pull my neck wallet out of my shirt to get my passport. Is there a better way of handling this that I have not thought of? Perhaps I could show a photo copy of my passport that I would keep separately with my credencial?
It might work, and you could try that in the first instance. You will quickly find out if you need to present the original.Perhaps I could show a photo copy of my passport that I would keep separately with my credencial?
It might work, and you could try that in the first instance. You will quickly find out if you need to present the original.
When registering in an albergue I was always asked to show my passport in addition to my credencial. I felt reluctant to pull my neck wallet out of my shirt to get my passport. Is there a better way of handling this that I have not thought of? Perhaps I could show a photo copy of my passport that I would keep separately with my credencial?
When registering in an albergue I was always asked to show my passport in addition to my credencial. I felt reluctant to pull my neck wallet out of my shirt to get my passport. Is there a better way of handling this that I have not thought of? Perhaps I could show a photo copy of my passport that I would keep separately with my credencial?
My passport is where my Credential is , in a ziplock back. It's not in my pack ,it's on me.When registering in an albergue I was always asked to show my passport in addition to my credencial. I felt reluctant to pull my neck wallet out of my shirt to get my passport. Is there a better way of handling this that I have not thought of? Perhaps I could show a photo copy of my passport that I would keep separately with my credencial?
My passport is where my Credential is , in a ziplock back. It's not in my pack ,it's on me.
Wish you well , Peter.
Something I am considering for the next time I renew my passport is to also get a US passport card, a national ID card. It cannot be used for most international travel but it can be used in lieu of a passport book when travelling by car between the US and Canada (me) or Mexico (you). If I get one, on the camino I would take both forms of passport. The passport book that I need to use to get me to and from Europe would be kept in a really safe place and the card could be kept with the camino credential. I know that I would have to pull out the passport book from time to time because the card might not be recognized for what it is but the card still might be worth it.When registering in an albergue I was always asked to show my passport in addition to my credencial. I felt reluctant to pull my neck wallet out of my shirt to get my passport. Is there a better way of handling this that I have not thought of? Perhaps I could show a photo copy of my passport that I would keep separately with my credencial?
Why feel reluctant to show a passport?I felt reluctant to pull my neck wallet out of my shirt to get my passport.
You are over complicating a very simple process. The new passport books are much more sturdy and more compact with less pages. The identity cards most European carry are great to speed up the process to pass through a security line but I doubt any American ID card would pass muster. I'm not sure what your point is?Something I am considering for the next time I renew my passport is to also get a US passport card, a national ID card. It cannot be used for most international travel but it can be used in lieu of a passport book when travelling by car between the US and Canada (me) or Mexico (you). If I get one, on the camino I would take both forms of passport. The passport book that I need to use to get me to and from Europe would be kept in a really safe place and the card could be kept with the camino credential. I know that I would have to pull out the passport book from time to time because the card might not be recognized for what it is but the card still might be worth it.
BTW, you don't need to wait for passport renewal time to get the card.
Here are some links:
https://travel.state.gov/content/passports/en/passports/information/card.html
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Passport_Card
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/prac...2366-us-passport-card-id-foreign-country.html
It's an arcane requirement, so deal with it.
Exactement!I'm not sure that it can properly be described as arcane - here is current UK advice on Spain
"Hotels have a legal duty to register the passport details of tourists on check-in"
BTW, I'm a ManU fan and I still agree with you.I'm not sure that it can properly be described as arcane - here is current UK advice on Spain
"Hotels have a legal duty to register the passport details of tourists on check-in"
I don't know why a US passport card wouldn't be accepted??You are over complicating a very simple process. The new passport books are much more sturdy and more compact with less pages. The identity cards most European carry are great to speed up the process to pass through a security line but I doubt any American ID card would pass muster. I'm not sure what your point is?
Never seen one and all I can say is good luck! Although it does look like a European ID cardI don't know why a US passport card wouldn't be accepted??
This is what they look like
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My view of a simple process is: arrive at albergue, take out wallet, take out card, hand over card, take it back and put it back.You are over complicating a very simple process.
That nuscience is just one reason why I love my fanny pack! Much easier to get at it at my fingertips.When registering in an albergue I was always asked to show my passport in addition to my credencial. I felt reluctant to pull my neck wallet out of my shirt to get my passport. Is there a better way of handling this that I have not thought of? Perhaps I could show a photo copy of my passport that I would keep separately with my credencial?
I have an over the shoulder antitheft purse, but didn't know they came in a fannypack style. Awesome!Carried all my valuables including my passport in a ziploc bag inside a zippered pocket of my Pacsafe tummy tote. It is an extremely secure pack as the the waist band and the body of the pack are slash-proof, the clasp requires both hands to release and the zippers can be clipped to the pack - tough for pickpockets. This was on my waist at all times except in the shower where I placed it in a plastic bag on an S-hook in the shower with me (yes, I even wore it at night). This made accessing my passport as well as a whole lot of other things like my phone/camera and snacks very easy.
https://www.mec.ca/en/product/5046-574/Venturesafe-100-GII-Anti-Theft-Hip-Pack
Never seen one and all I can say is good luck! Although it does look like a European ID card
Maybe TomA will chime in on this discussion.
Mental note to myself : maybe on my next Camino be less paranoid and not make copies of every card / document I have...Will make it easier too finding the original when really needed...
I have used both the Passsport card and the passport. I carry both, just-in-case
My national passport & pilgrim credential ride in a Lok-Sak 4" x 7" heavy duty ziplock in one of my cargo pockets. My passport card rides with my EU Bank Contact/ ATM card in a separate "Butterfly Wallet" in another pocket.
Thanks Tom. The multiple pocket is always a good idea, I like front pockets because I think that a pickpocket won't go there. While I was in West Africa for 4 years whenever I had to go to any capitol city I also carried a bogus wallet with a few notes, expired credit cards and expired passport in it. If I was held up I would have gladly handed it over and had a good laugh when the perp realized what he stolen from me.
Thanks, Tom. I'm wondering if the passport card is actually useful for you. Since you show your passport book with your credential it looks like you mainly use it for backup such as if your passport book got stolen and you wanted to show the embassy that you were you.
Thanks again Tom. One of the reasons I am thinking of getting the card is that I remember back in the day when only a driver's license was needed for US/Canada border crossings and the idea of now having to have a passport for this irks me. With the card I can fool myself into thinking that I'm not using a passport.Bringing the card and passport is more about options and flexibility, rather than weight. The card weighs a nil amount. However, it had its uses.
This could be helpful though:I didn't put my APOC patch on my [pack]
Oh...I forgot to ask about keeping a low profile as a US citizen? I didn't put my APOC patch on my patch for this reason. Overkill? Or wise?
I'm a proud American and I'm attaching an American flag to my pack. Just as soon as I find a patch that can be glued. No reason to keep a low profile. It's not like you're traveling to YemenOh good. I kind of wanted to use it. And I'll take all the sympathy anyone wants to throw my way at our new president, since I'm not a fan.I may get a forum one as well. That'll be 3 Camino patches then, including Camigas.
Oh...I forgot to ask about keeping a low profile as a US citizen? I didn't put my APOC patch on my patch for this reason. Overkill? Or wise?
Many decades ago I took a long trip that involved a lot of hitchhiking. To grab attention I had a bandana with small flags of the places I visited sewn onto it. I would drape it over my pack when waiting between rides. By far, the conversational piece turned out to be this flag:I'm a proud American and I'm attaching an American flag to my pack.
The folks who might wish you harm will be looking for the passport, NOT the APOC patch.
Oh...I forgot to ask about keeping a low profile as a US citizen? I didn't put my APOC patch on my patch for this reason. Overkill? Or wise?
If you want to keep a low profile as an American, you are going to have to do more than not have the APOC patch. You are going to have to leave the fanny pack at home, not talk loudly in public, not point with your index finger, not use your speaker phone, not eat or drink something like a soft drink while you walk, not smile at strangers, not . . . well you get the picture. The fact is that most Europeans know you are an American before you even open your mouth.
My quote button didn't work so I had to go old school to add to your response Robert!
To be sure the fanny pack is the first clue, especially if it carried on the belly. Then you have the white "gym shoes" and socks (esp. among tourists) and if that isn't enough, a Jansport or North Face backpack and gear is a guaranteed give away. We Americans would stand out in a crowd of "Where's Waldo" plain and simple.
I can be sitting at a sidewalk bar at the Biarritz marche getting bashed and smashed by my best friends for slaughtering their dear language when someone points out, "Hey isn't that one of your countrymen?" The folks with camera around their necks and face stuck in tour maps come to mind, missing what is going on around them and not living in the minute; it reminds me of NPR character, Mr. Obvious!
Let's truncate this thread. Someone should have answered the OP with "NO."When registering in an albergue I was always asked to show my passport in addition to my credencial. I felt reluctant to pull my neck wallet out of my shirt to get my passport. Is there a better way of handling this that I have not thought of? Perhaps I could show a photo copy of my passport that I would keep separately with my credencial?
The only time I stuck my face in a map was when I was lost on the Portuguese, Ingles and Aragones, more than once. My immediate question was where the f**k am I after an hour of the sun being somewhere in the universe it should not have been.Oh Lordy...I'm definitely going to be careful to heed the advice of "when in Rome." Lucky for us, the Camino is well marked so hopefully no need to stick my face in a map.
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My immediate question was where the f**k am I after an hour of the sun being somewhere in the universe it should not have been.
Ditto. My American Flag is firmly attached to my pack as well. Someone else can fill the low profile boots.I'm a proud American and I'm attaching an American flag to my pack. Just as soon as I find a patch that can be glued. No reason to keep a low profile. It's not like you're traveling to Yemen
Eve,Well sure. But the APOC patch pretty much alerts anyone around that I also have an American passport.But since y'all think its overkill I'll probably add it. More patches is better than less, right? lol
Camino 2002, I drank Coca-Cola at nearly every meal, I've since decaffeinated, everytime the pretty red can was in hand, Euros would say: "You are so American".
Of course not. And I find the fellow pilgrims that make me wince most are not from somewhere else, but my own country. I suspect there are some who want to present our nation in a good light when we travel, and some who are insensitive to the offence they cause by their more ideosyncratic behaviours. It am sure those from the US or anywhere else will be the same. Be yourself, and be a great representative of your country.I don't think the patch thing is exclusively American.
I love when tongue-in-check banter remains so....
Sorry, but don't give yourself airs. I am on the side of those who thought it was more rude that arid. If it was meant to be funny, accept that it might have fallen flat!Nice to know there are still a few of you out there who can get the joke without the aid of emojis and smiley faces, because as everyone knows, Americans often have the best sense of humour of all (but not the driest, that's us).
I had not thought about it but I did not really see many other nationalities drinking Coke very often. The price alone would keep it down. Wine and coffee are about 1/2 the price.
Europeans are more likely to be drinking an orange drink like Kaz.
I made a photo copy of my passport and walked last fall and carried it with my pilgrim's credentials. I had to show both at every albergue or pension I stayed at. I only showed my original passport at the airports.When registering in an albergue I was always asked to show my passport in addition to my credencial. I felt reluctant to pull my neck wallet out of my shirt to get my passport. Is there a better way of handling this that I have not thought of? Perhaps I could show a photo copy of my passport that I would keep separately with my credencial?
When registering in an albergue I was always asked to show my passport in addition to my credencial. I felt reluctant to pull my neck wallet out of my shirt to get my passport. Is there a better way of handling this that I have not thought of? Perhaps I could show a photo copy of my passport that I would keep separately with my credencial?
For national security reasons, Spanish and European police request from all places that house travellers to keep a register and a copy of an ID document. Usually, this is the ID card for Europeans (we have an ID card with a number that identifies us and that we use for nearly everything) and passport for foreigners. There's no danger to hand over your passport for a minute. But if you have a valid ID-card from another country and you prefer to show this document, there shouldn't be any problem. With a copy you may have problems, as public albergues may be instructed to demand originals. Remember that Santiago was on level 5 security alert this summer (=maximum) and authorities are making huge efforts to guarantee general safety. A US identity card should be accepted as it identifies you and makes you traceble, but in case of doubt people at the albergues prefer not to have problems with the police and ask for what they have been instructed to: the original passport.
I'll take wine every day over soda.
When registering in an albergue I was always asked to show my passport in addition to my credencial. I felt reluctant to pull my neck wallet out of my shirt to get my passport. Is there a better way of handling this that I have not thought of? Perhaps I could show a photo copy of my passport that I would keep separately with my credencial?
Ah, that's the one I grew up with! So I'm happy to see it here, Rick. Thanks.
It's one of the best things about the Camino, the connection with our common humanity. AND our diversity. All at the same time. From space there are no boundaries but we humans make rather a lot of them--and the wonderful thing about the Camino is that it's a community where those labels are less important. This virtual albergue is a warm-up for that, Eve--you'll have a wonderful time. Buen Camino!I'm looking forward to the experience of meeting people from many places. I love that I can converse with Camino friends from all over the world.
It never has had any legal significance. It attests that you are a pilgrim on a pilgrimage with Christian sentiment. Xunta and parochial albergues require you have one to stay in their albergues. Private albergues set their own policies. Red Albergues have established a policy for all their members, though there is variation.to be honest - has no legal significance.
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