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[Anniesantiago]

I just checked my finances and I have about $4000 to play with.

I have been caring for my elderly mother and I really need a break. I had to sell my van last year in order to drive my mothers car to Oregon from California.

Walking the Camino would give me time to go slow and think and right now I have family who would keep an eye on her while I’m gone for 3 to 6 weeks.

Buying a van would give me the opportunity to take camping trips now and then to escape.

The question is, should I go walk the Camino this autumn (which I really feel like I need ) or should I invest in a new van (Which I really feel like I need)?

Oh, decisions, decisions...

What would YOU do?

 

[ktchnofdngr]

I would do the Camino, mostly because I find that I pray and contemplate best on my feet.

As long as you have a tent and a vehicle in general, you could do camping without a van. So, why not invest in a $50-100 tent, then use the rest for a Camino?

Ruth

 

[simply B]

Van.

It provides more optionality for quick getaways to avoid caregiver burnout.

The Camino is going to be around later.

B

 

[JohnMcM]

I just checked my finances and I have about $4000 to play with.

I have been caring for my elderly mother and I really need a break. I had to sell my van last year in order to drive my mothers car to Oregon from California.

Walking the Camino would give me time to go slow and think and right now I have family who would keep an eye on her while I’m gone for 3 to 6 weeks.

Buying a van would give me the opportunity to take camping trips now and then to escape.

The question is, should I go walk the Camino this autumn (which I really feel like I need ) or should I invest in a new van (Which I really feel like I need)?

Oh, decisions, decisions...

What would YOU do?

If I may, you would have a degree of certainty with the van which might just give more opportunity than an unknown COVID situation in the near future?

Whatever you decide,,,,,,,, Buen (peace of mind) Camino

 

[André Walker]

If you have the means to do so: follow your heart!

 

[BROWNCOUNTYBOB]

Annie, go with your gut. Your signature shows how much you've enjoyed walking the camino many times in the past. You may need the quiet time to reflect over several weeks. Bob

 

[natefaith]

Can you walk the Camino soon, and rent a van when you feel the need to?

Or walk a shorter Camino, and buy a cheaper van?

Or buy a van, and get away to a place cheaper than Spain?

In 5 years, when you look back at this moment, which one will you regret not doing?

Those would be questions I'd ask meself.

 

[C clearly]

I say go with the van, since there are many more uncertainties with the Camino this fall. But whatever you decide, make the most of it and DON'T look back with regrets!

 

[Renascer]

Can you walk the Camino soon, and rent a van when you feel the need to?

Or walk a shorter Camino, and buy a cheaper van?

Or buy a van, and get away to a place cheaper than Spain?

In 5 years, when you look back at this moment, which one will you regret not doing?

Those would be questions I'd ask meself.

Love the last question!

 

[jsalt]

What would YOU do?

Buy the van. I flew long distance to spend time with my elderly mother for a few weeks. Returned home on a long haul flight, planning to go back a couple of months later. She died before I returned, and I still miss her so much. The camino will be there next year. Your mother may not. And who knows what covid still has in store for us this year . . . ?

 

[NYSE]

I just checked my finances and I have about $4000 to play with.

I have been caring for my elderly mother and I really need a break. I had to sell my van last year in order to drive my mothers car to Oregon from California.

Walking the Camino would give me time to go slow and think and right now I have family who would keep an eye on her while I’m gone for 3 to 6 weeks.

Buying a van would give me the opportunity to take camping trips now and then to escape.

The question is, should I go walk the Camino this autumn (which I really feel like I need ) or should I invest in a new van (Which I really feel like I need)?

Oh, decisions, decisions...

What would YOU do?

I've never regretted booking a trip then going. However, at this point, I'm delaying all international travel. It's road trips for us for now.

 

[Marbe2]

Annie, as I remember, you indicated a few threads ago that you are unable to get the Vaccine. Given the uncertainty of the Delta virus, and your inability-to get vaccinated currently, I would also vote to get/buy the Van.
Go camping in areas of the US that have high vaccination rates.

 

[Former member 49149]

Annie, the van.

 

[Bristle Boy]

I just checked my finances and I have about $4000 to play with.

I have been caring for my elderly mother and I really need a break. I had to sell my van last year in order to drive my mothers car to Oregon from California.

Walking the Camino would give me time to go slow and think and right now I have family who would keep an eye on her while I’m gone for 3 to 6 weeks.

Buying a van would give me the opportunity to take camping trips now and then to escape.

The question is, should I go walk the Camino this autumn (which I really feel like I need ) or should I invest in a new van (Which I really feel like I need)?

Oh, decisions, decisions...

What would YOU do?

Bless you......GO.

 

[Renascer]

Listen to your !

 

[Camino Chrissy]

Annie, I find equal merit in both. That said, I see you have only given a to the two who have encouraged you to "go" out of 13+ replies...I think you may very well have your own answer.

 

[Flog]

It sounds like you are really on the fence with this.

A wise person told me once:
If you are faced with a decision, and are quite sure you are prepared to accept and live with either choice, then toss a coin and let fate make the decision for you, no regrets and no what ifs...

Mind you, I haven't been bold enough try this myself..

 

[Albertagirl]

Annie,
I agree with @Camino Chrissy that you should follow your heart. But you know that you can buy the van. Look into whether you can go on camino now, with all the restrictions. Maybe that choice will not be open to you and you will have to choose whether to buy the van now or to save your money until a camino becomes a real option later.

 

[Kanga]

I'd buy the van. That gives you certainty of enjoyment when you need it. My experience is that when the time is right to go on Camino, things will fall into place to make it happen.

 

[Jean Ti]

I just checked my finances and I have about $4000 to play with.

I have been caring for my elderly mother and I really need a break. I had to sell my van last year in order to drive my mothers car to Oregon from California.

Walking the Camino would give me time to go slow and think and right now I have family who would keep an eye on her while I’m gone for 3 to 6 weeks.

Buying a van would give me the opportunity to take camping trips now and then to escape.

The question is, should I go walk the Camino this autumn (which I really feel like I need ) or should I invest in a new van (Which I really feel like I need)?

Oh, decisions, decisions...

What would YOU do?

Well interesting question

I face similar situation not so long ago and simply purchase a little van. I left YUL and did 7500 KM to reach Tuktoyaktuk. Tuk is facing the artic ocean . It was a wonderful trip. I enjoy that type of trip so much that I did it twice including Alaska Northern British Columbia and Yukon etc back to YUL.

Not to far from Oregon???

 

[Kathy F.]

Hmm.
Dennis and I just came from a weekend camping trip yesterday. And you know I'm planning my next CF for May.
At this moment in time, I'd go with the van. I side with those who point out the greater versatility of having a van and the still on-going problems with getting to and from Spain.
I'd let those airlines problems sort themselves out and, meanwhile, get away more easily with local trips without having to depend on so many other factors that you have no control over.
That said, not a day goes by that I don't think about the Camino.
Whatever you decide will be the perfect decision.

 

[sugargypsy]

When I first read your question, I was pretty sure, that almost everybody here would be in favor of walking the Camino. I'm quite surprised that so many are pro van .


I have had such discussions with myself quite often and in this case, if I had a wish free from a fairy, I'd decide for the Camino, whereas the van would be the practical and responsible solution to go for. I'd decide for my dream. There's time enough to act rationally the rest of my life.

That being said, in your case, I would probably go for the solution that gives distance / more recovery to you. A longer break away from normal circumstances would mean so much more regeneration and also freedom. At least that's how it would be for me, but of course everybody is a little different. I could not achieve that with several smaller breaks.




PS There'd be only one point pro Van: How important it for you as a mobile base for other activities? If that's not the case then I'd always go for the Camino.

 

[VNwalking]

The question is, should I go walk the Camino this autumn (which I really feel like I need ) or should I invest in a new van (Which I really feel like I need)?

Here's an exploration about both questions that may help discern the right choice: "Do I want this or do I need this?" Then go with genuine need, rather than the just wanting.

Buying a van would give me the opportunity to take camping trips now and then to escape.

Best of both worlds, I reckon.
I'm wild about the camino, but given everything (covid, your mum, and the uncertainty of both)...and it seems most beneficial in the long term, because a van is not a single use expenditure. The camino is.

The van.

 

[henrythedog]

Go with the van Annie. Even a $4000 van will last longer than a Camino.

 

[linkster]

I am taking care of my dad that is 92. Which ever you choose ... make a conscious effort to take care of yourself ... you can only help your mom if you are healthy.

Good luck!

 

[Aidan21]

$4000 sounds like a 1 star van (well where I live such a van would leave a lot to be desired).

$4000 sounds like a 5 star Camino with a life time of memories.

Me, I would go with the Camino, but whatever you decide for you is right.

 

[Dani7]

Hello Annie. With the knowledge that you are unable to get vaccinated at this time it may be a moot point/choice. International travel in The short term may only be an option for fully vaccinated travellers and being allowed into Spain or even albergues for that matter. Respite is a long haul game when caring for an elderly parent. You may need more short term outings more often than a chunk of time that ends all too quickly. All the best and blessings for taking care of your Mom

 

[Paul Wilson]

@Anniesantiago i think you know the answer to this question even before you asked it, I help look after my parents one with Parkinson’s and the other has crippling arthritis and I know I will be worried about them when I go in September but they will be just as excited as me to hear about my adventure…buen camino mi amigo

 

[Anniesantiago]

$4000 sounds like a 1 star van (well where I live such a van would leave a lot to be desired).

$4000 sounds like a 5 star Camino with a life time of memories.

Me, I would go with the Camino, but whatever you decide for you is right.

Well if I got a van that would just be the down payment. But it would pay for an entire Camino.

 

[Sean Lad]

I just checked my finances and I have about $4000 to play with.

I have been caring for my elderly mother and I really need a break. I had to sell my van last year in order to drive my mothers car to Oregon from California.

Walking the Camino would give me time to go slow and think and right now I have family who would keep an eye on her while I’m gone for 3 to 6 weeks.

Buying a van would give me the opportunity to take camping trips now and then to escape.

The question is, should I go walk the Camino this autumn (which I really feel like I need ) or should I invest in a new van (Which I really feel like I need)?

Oh, decisions, decisions...

What would YOU do?

What kind of van ie camper would you buy for €4000.00
A good bicycle costs that

 

[Anniesantiago]

Annie, as I remember, you indicated a few threads ago that you are unable to get the Vaccine. Given the uncertainty of the Delta virus, and your inability-to get vaccinated currently, I would also vote to get/buy the Van.
Go camping in areas of the US that have high vaccination rates.

What kind of van ie camper would you buy for €4000.00
A good bicycle costs that

As I said, $4000 would be a down payment on a van, but would pay for an entire Camino

 

[Richard Smith]

I think the real question is about caring for yourself and caring/arranging care for your Mum.
Don't take on too much for your own health, take time out when you need it. Share the care.
Van or Camino then become tools rather than goals.
I am in the beginning of similar situation (caring for Mum), but I have a 4WD van and being aussie, cannot travel overseas. The van is useful but not the whole answer.

 

[lt56ny]

Annie if you can't get the vaccine I would say go with the Van. You can drive to find some solitude and peace camping and maybe in the future you will have the means to go on the Camino and we will have more therapies to keep people who can't do the vaccine safe.

 

[Onewithspirit]

Ahhhhh my heart says go!
but my head says that even if you were allowed to fly without the double jab you would have to quarantine for 2 of your precious weeks there. Logistically and financially it could be a nightmare. What if you hold off, save the money and make do until next year to see where everything in your life and the world sits then?

 

[Anniesantiago]

Thanks everyone, for your thoughts.

 

[sunwanderer]

If you go with the Camino, you would have that one big memory for the rest of your life.

If you go with the van, you could do many camping trips and have many smaller memories for the rest of your life.

Go with the van.

 

[AndreaCT]

Hi Annie,
Caregiver burnout is a common problem when we care for our loved ones. It is so easy to get sucked dry emotionally, physically and spiritually. It becomes difficult to make decisions. I think that you asking for advice on this forum is a fantastic way of trying to wade through some problem solving. You need to recharge your batteries and whichever choice you make, is the best choice for you.

Care for the Caregiver!!!! That was my mantra to family members when I worked in palliative care.

You asked "what would you do". If it was me, I would buy the van as it would allow me to continue to take short breaks to recharge once my "3-6 week respite care" was over. I'm hoping that there are other respite services available? There is joy is planning even a weekend trip. When my services would no longer be needed, I would head to the Camino for grieving and healing.

Andrea

 

[PilgrimJames]

I just checked my finances and I have about $4000 to play with.

I have been caring for my elderly mother and I really need a break. I had to sell my van last year in order to drive my mothers car to Oregon from California.

Walking the Camino would give me time to go slow and think and right now I have family who would keep an eye on her while I’m gone for 3 to 6 weeks.

Buying a van would give me the opportunity to take camping trips now and then to escape.

The question is, should I go walk the Camino this autumn (which I really feel like I need ) or should I invest in a new van (Which I really feel like I need)?

Oh, decisions, decisions...

What would YOU do?

Difficult but my I would buy the van. In a way that is my head ruling my heart. But I would like to havthe option to take small breaks for now. The Camino will still be there when this phase of your life changes. You only have one Mum.. Buen Camino

 

[trecile]

In

If you go with the Camino, you would have that one big memory for the rest of your life.

Annie has already walked more Caminos than most of us can dream of, so she has many Camino memories - perhaps that's what makes the pull of the Camino so strong.

 

[Felicia V]

Quite the conundrum. Maybe other things to factor in: your moms condition. If her only issue is being elderly, that’s one thing but if she is closer to her eternal Camino, perhaps make the choice based on what would give you less regrets

 

[Josè Emmanuel]

I just checked my finances and I have about $4000 to play with.

I have been caring for my elderly mother and I really need a break. I had to sell my van last year in order to drive my mothers car to Oregon from California.

Walking the Camino would give me time to go slow and think and right now I have family who would keep an eye on her while I’m gone for 3 to 6 weeks.

Buying a van would give me the opportunity to take camping trips now and then to escape.

The question is, should I go walk the Camino this autumn (which I really feel like I need ) or should I invest in a new van (Which I really feel like I need)?

Oh, decisions, decisions...

What would YOU do?

Annie, I suggest buying the van. There are many wonderful places to walk in the West Coast, like segments of the PCT. The Camino will always be there when you are 100% ready.

 

[RJM]

If there was never such a thing as the covid-19 and all the ways it changed travel and walking the Camino (at least for now) I would say walk the Camino.
Unfortunately there is the covid-19. I suggest buying the van. Walk the Camino again after the pandemic smoke clears.

 

[Anniesantiago]

In

Annie has already walked more Caminos than most of us can dream of, so she has many Camino memories - perhaps that's what makes the pull of the Camino so strong.

Yes. A trip to Spain and Portugal for me is like going home. And I’m ‘homesick.’

 

[Camino Chrissy]

Walk the Camino again after the pandemic smoke clears.

I agree to a point...but how much older will some of us be if we wait indefinitely for the air to clear..

 

[Anniesantiago]

I agree to a point...but how much older will some of us be if we wait indefinitely for the air to clear..

Exactly

 

[RRat]

I just checked my finances and I have about $4000 to play with.

I have been caring for my elderly mother and I really need a break. I had to sell my van last year in order to drive my mothers car to Oregon from California.

Walking the Camino would give me time to go slow and think and right now I have family who would keep an eye on her while I’m gone for 3 to 6 weeks.

Buying a van would give me the opportunity to take camping trips now and then to escape.

The question is, should I go walk the Camino this autumn (which I really feel like I need ) or should I invest in a new van (Which I really feel like I need)?

Oh, decisions, decisions...

What would YOU do?

 

[Sixwheeler]

Van = multiple benefits. Good Luck.

 

[Anamiri]

What did you decide? Although I yearn for the Camino, the van is likely a better option with ongoing benefits.

 

[Jean Ti]

I just checked my finances and I have about $4000 to play with.

I have been caring for my elderly mother and I really need a break. I had to sell my van last year in order to drive my mothers car to Oregon from California.

Walking the Camino would give me time to go slow and think and right now I have family who would keep an eye on her while I’m gone for 3 to 6 weeks.

Buying a van would give me the opportunity to take camping trips now and then to escape.

The question is, should I go walk the Camino this autumn (which I really feel like I need ) or should I invest in a new van (Which I really feel like I need)?

Oh, decisions, decisions...

What would YOU do?

Based on your budget I did some research.

We need to look at older van...Hope it helps!

 

[Anniesantiago]

Read the entire thread.

 

[andarapie]

The obvious solution is to buy an El Camino and put a cap over the truck bed - way cooler than a van, and you still get to drive the El Camino, which is way less of a pain than walking it.

 

[trecile]

The obvious solution is to buy an El Camino and put a cap over the truck bed - way cooler than a van, and you still get to drive the El Camino, which is way less of a pain than walking it.

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[VNwalking]

The obvious solution is to buy an El Camino and put a cap over the truck bed - way cooler than a van, and you still get to drive the El Camino, which is way less of a pain than walking it.

This post wins hands down.

 

[EL LECHERO]

I just checked my finances and I have about $4000 to play with.

I have been caring for my elderly mother and I really need a break. I had to sell my van last year in order to drive my mothers car to Oregon from California.

Walking the Camino would give me time to go slow and think and right now I have family who would keep an eye on her while I’m gone for 3 to 6 weeks.

Buying a van would give me the opportunity to take camping trips now and then to escape.

The question is, should I go walk the Camino this autumn (which I really feel like I need ) or should I invest in a new van (Which I really feel like I need)?

Oh, decisions, decisions...

What would YOU do?

The Van will always be there.....but the ability and opportunity to walk the Way won't. I look back and see missed opportunities because I played it safe and responsible. I also look back "Pre-Covid" and am grateful of the things I did before all this craziness struck. Carpe Diem!!

 

[Mycroft]

Can you walk the Camino soon, and rent a van when you feel the need to?

Or walk a shorter Camino, and buy a cheaper van?

Or buy a van, and get away to a place cheaper than Spain?

In 5 years, when you look back at this moment, which one will you regret not doing?

Those would be questions I'd ask meself.

Excellent, as always, Faith!

 

[Jean Ti]

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Maby a green approach would be better!

Much better for your health too!

 

[Robo]

The Van. And decorate it like a 'Pilgrim Van'. A mini mobile Albergue!
Haul your Camino around with you

You'll get more use and more memories from the van, than one more Camino.

 

[Lloyd Woodall]

Both offer good choices but considering the upheaval still going on it would seem that the van might be more conservative and practical this year. Then go out and buy ice cream!!!

 

[danielgzepeda]

I just checked my finances and I have about $4000 to play with.

I have been caring for my elderly mother and I really need a break. I had to sell my van last year in order to drive my mothers car to Oregon from California.

Walking the Camino would give me time to go slow and think and right now I have family who would keep an eye on her while I’m gone for 3 to 6 weeks.

Buying a van would give me the opportunity to take camping trips now and then to escape.

The question is, should I go walk the Camino this autumn (which I really feel like I need ) or should I invest in a new van (Which I really feel like I need)?

Oh, decisions, decisions...

What would YOU do?

I lost my wife February 2020. Pre-covid. I have had to postpone my 1st Camino for 6 straight years due to business and family health issues. Last year, Covid! I am now fully inoculated and am planning on May/June 2022 CF still starting from SJPDP to SDC. I don't regret delaying 6 years for family. The Camino is calling, I will answer with more reason and determination. I have 5 stones to deliver at the Cruz de Ferro. All representing family members. I accept and understand these circumstances. Including Covid. It will happen. Family first. Life is short.

 

[NualaOC]

What an interesting and poignant thread you've started, @Anniesantiago. It's lovely to read all the responses and I hope they help your reflections and decision-making.

I've personal and very current experience of some of the care issues mentioned and (for me) they can lead me to approach some situations in a very binary either/or way. My offering is therefore a suggestion that you take some time to think about whether there's 'something else' that might give you the time-out that you need. Are the two options you're considering really the only ones?

Wishing you well in accessing your inner wisdom and finding what you need. Only you can know what this is xx

 

[André Walker]

Oh boy, choices, choices, choices.

Not always easy to make. And often regretting not having made the right choice... So how do you make the right choice? It's very difficult to know that beforehand.

So maybe it's not about making the right choice, but about being happy with the choice you make. There's nothing wrong with regretting a choice you've made, but don't let it obscure you in the present.

Something which happened to me during a day walk in Holland with my wife: halfway we came across a restaurant and we decided to have lunch there. I really fancied an omelette. My wife ordered a goat's cheese salad. When they brought our order I saw the very rich and tasteful salad of my wife and regretted that I had ordered an omelette.

But only for a second. Instead of clinging to the thought that I had made the wrong decision, I decided to just enjoy my omelette and order the salad the next time.

So if you choose for the van you might afterwards feel like you've made the wrong decision. If that's the case: regret it for a moment and then enjoy your van. The same applies if you make the other decision.

 

[David]

Every ship carries at least one lifeboat. In your full-on caring situation, you need that lifeboat - even if you don't use it just knowing it is there and that you can is worth it - buy the lifeboat (camper van).

 

[VNwalking]

André has a good point, Annie.
Only one thing to add: there are no right or wrong decisions here. Just choice. Either way you can't go wrong.

 

[danielgzepeda]

The Van. And decorate it like a 'Pilgrim Van'. A mini mobile Albergue!
Haul your Camino around with you

You'll get more use and more memories from the van, than one more Camino.

I own a 25 foot shuttle bus. Converting it to a nomadic RV style environment. I am also retired living in the States. Will eventually see all 50 states through this approach. My daughter and I were caregivers to my wife for her last 6 months. Chose that instead of personal wants/desires. For me, it was the correct choice. My wife always stood by me. I in turn did the same. She chose to do her hospice time at home. She icertainly has earned her wings in heaven.

 

[Camino Chrissy]

Sorry to ramble. The forum is going to have to start billing me for counseling::::

Annie, never apologize for rambling on the forum! I see you have over 80 followers. Your personality, combined with your openness and the transparent sharing about "who you are" is the reason.
BTW, the counseling services offered here are extremely inexpensive!

 

[Anniesantiago]

The Van. And decorate it like a 'Pilgrim Van'. A mini mobile Albergue!
Haul your Camino around with you

You'll get more use and more memories from the van, than one more Camino.

I loved this idea! lol! Maybe I'll use a van as a 3D Vision Board!

 

[Jeff Crawley]

Since 2001 I've walked 6 Caminos (4 CF, 1 CP and 1 CI) each needed to be planned, scheduled and budgeted for well in advance.
Since 2002 I've owned an old and now quite battered VW Camper (Vanagon in the US) in which I've made countless sorties around my home island of Britain as well as into France and the Benelux.
Before retirement I would sometimes go to work in the van on Friday, disappear for the weekend and come into work on the Monday straight from camping.
In the summertime I'd have the van loaded with my kayak and could come home midweek and drive down to the beach (only a mile away from my house) for a paddle before coming home for dinner (if I didn't eat on the beach)
I've also used it to shift various people's belongings (including my elder daughter when she left uni)
At present the van lies gathering dust - campsites in the UK are over subscribed and prohibitvely expensive (100% more costly than last year) and any chance of leaving this blighted isle severely restricted due to Covid and government stupidity.
I can, of course, still drive down and park up on the White Cliffs of Dover and pine for France just 22 miles away in the haze and dream of Spain further away lazing in the heat of the afternoon sun.
So, if it were me, based on past experience, would I vote Camper or Camino?
Camper everytime. All things being equal I can fuel up and roll at a moment's notice and have a fresh advenuture whereas a Camino . . . not quite "been there, done that" just yet but there are other things I could be doing.
Whatever your choice Annie just make sure you enjoy it!



Compeigne, France. Happier times.

 

[Paintboy2]

Buy the van Annie. From the look of your signature you will still figure out how to do another Camino.

 

[Camino Chrissy]

Jeff, your van is so cute!
I spent the first 25 years of my adult life camping all over the US and to a majority of our most beautiful National Parks both west and east before traveling to other countries for the next 15 years.
At this stage of life now, camping feels ho-hum to me...been there, done that, beautiful as the sights and campfires have been.
I love the cultures and ancient architecture of European countries, so for me the Caminos provide a completely different type of adventure using my own two feet.

 

[Anniesantiago]

Since 2001 I've walked 6 Caminos (4 CF, 1 CP and 1 CI) each needed to be planned, scheduled and budgeted for well in advance.
Since 2002 I've owned an old and now quite battered VW Camper (Vanagon in the US) in which I've made countless sorties around my home island of Britain as well as into France and the Benelux.
Before retirement I would sometimes go to work in the van on Friday, disappear for the weekend and come into work on the Monday straight from camping.
In the summertime I'd have the van loaded with my kayak and could come home midweek and drive down to the beach (only a mile away from my house) for a paddle before coming home for dinner (if I didn't eat on the beach)
I've also used it to shift various people's belongings (including my elder daughter when she left uni)
At present the van lies gathering dust - campsites in the UK are over subscribed and prohibitvely expensive (100% more costly than last year) and any chance of leaving this blighted isle severely restricted due to Covid and government stupidity.
I can, of course, still drive down and park up on the White Cliffs of Dover and pine for France just 22 miles away in the haze and dream of Spain further away lazing in the heat of the afternoon sun.
So, if it were me, based on past experience, would I vote Camper or Camino?
Camper everytime. All things being equal I can fuel up and roll at a moment's notice and have a fresh advenuture whereas a Camino . . . not quite "been there, done that" just yet but there are other things I could be doing.
Whatever your choice Annie just make sure you enjoy it!

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Compeigne, France. Happier times.

Love the van! I had a Toyota Sienna with a bed, passenger seat turned around, and kitchen in the back. But I always wished I could stand up inside and cook. Looks like you can do that! Perfecto!

 

[Camino Chrissy]

Love the van! I had a Toyota Sienna with a bed, passenger seat turned around, and kitchen in the back. But I always wished I could stand up inside and cook. Looks like you can do that! Perfecto!

Annie, I watched all the stages of your van conversion and the creative things you did to make it both user friendly and attractive.

 

[CalgaryLynn]

Van, for sure. I have a camper van and last summer and this summer it has been a blessing, to get away from the city. I love just jumping in and taking off on a moment's notice. I live quite close to the mountains so never short of ideas where to go.

Care giving is difficult at the best of times. You definitely need short breaks to re-center yourself and a van will provide that.

But what do I know,

 

[danielgzepeda]

Annie, never apologize for rambling on the forum! I see you have over 80 followers. Your personality, combined with your openness and the transparent sharing about "who you are" is the reason.
BTW, the counseling services offered here are extremely inexpensive!

Camino Chrissy, I totally agree with you about no apologies and the vast amount of life's knowledge found within this forum. I find speaking with people I look up to has helped me come to terms with the life I am leading. I am more at peace with a few break downs in between. That is to be expected. For Annie Santiago, you have met your match as far as rambling about any subject. It is I who understands rambling very well. BTW, my bus has a name just like everyone else that becomes sometimes nomadic names theirs. It is SANTIAGO!!! God speed with you Annie. This event in your life is happening for a reason. It has to be a good one.

 

[Canche]

I just checked my finances and I have about $4000 to play with.

I have been caring for my elderly mother and I really need a break. I had to sell my van last year in order to drive my mothers car to Oregon from California.

Walking the Camino would give me time to go slow and think and right now I have family who would keep an eye on her while I’m gone for 3 to 6 weeks.

Buying a van would give me the opportunity to take camping trips now and then to escape.

The question is, should I go walk the Camino this autumn (which I really feel like I need ) or should I invest in a new van (Which I really feel like I need)?

Oh, decisions, decisions...

What would YOU do?

Duh. Of course you should walk the Camino. I would. A van won't give you what you need

 

[JohanT]

I just checked my finances and I have about $4000 to play with.

I have been caring for my elderly mother and I really need a break. I had to sell my van last year in order to drive my mothers car to Oregon from California.

Walking the Camino would give me time to go slow and think and right now I have family who would keep an eye on her while I’m gone for 3 to 6 weeks.

Buying a van would give me the opportunity to take camping trips now and then to escape.

The question is, should I go walk the Camino this autumn (which I really feel like I need ) or should I invest in a new van (Which I really feel like I need)?

Oh, decisions, decisions...

What would YOU do?

Hi Annie,
I see that you walked el Camino before, so if I were you, I would buy the Van, take the necessary breaks in Oregon when needed and aim to do the Camino again next year

 

[Jean Ti]

I just checked my finances and I have about $4000 to play with.

I have been caring for my elderly mother and I really need a break. I had to sell my van last year in order to drive my mothers car to Oregon from California.

Walking the Camino would give me time to go slow and think and right now I have family who would keep an eye on her while I’m gone for 3 to 6 weeks.

Buying a van would give me the opportunity to take camping trips now and then to escape.

The question is, should I go walk the Camino this autumn (which I really feel like I need ) or should I invest in a new van (Which I really feel like I need)?

Oh, decisions, decisions...

What would YOU do?

You could have a van and do the Camino with it. And with the remaining money... Left from the 4000$.

Purchase Spain champagne to help the economy of the country!

 

[Canche]

Duh. Of course you should walk the Camino. I would. A van won't give you what you need

 

[Sue127]

What a long and interesting thread, @Anniesantiago. I thought about this whilst reading everyone else's comments and here's what I came up with. The need for some respite is there, but the ability to travel to Spain safely is not. Why not buy the van, enjoy breaks away (as long or short as circumstances allow) and then, when you feel the time is right, sell the van and walk your beloved Camino? Be happy in whatever choice you make

 

[Anniesantiago]

Soooo.... I traded in my other car, and only paid $2394 for this nice little Toyota Sienna VAN!
It's a 2000, with only 110,000 miles on it.
Took it to my mechanic who said it should run fine up to and over 300,000K.
And... this means I still have enough for a Camino, if I decide to walk.
It was a GOOD DAY!
To see more about the car...
Annie's Van

 

[Canche]

Soooo.... I traded in my other car, and only paid $2394 for this nice little Toyota Sienna VAN!
It's a 2000, with only 110,000 miles on it.
Took it to my mechanic who said it should run fine up to and over 300,000K.
And... this means I still have enough for a Camino, if I decide to walk.
It was a GOOD DAY!
To see more about the car...
https://anniesantiago2.blogspot.com/2021/07/isnt-she-lovely.html

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So glad it has worked out for you. Maybe I'll see you on the Camino. Buen Camino. Nice ride

 

[VNwalking]

OMG, Cake and eating it, too?
Wonderful, Annie. Just wonderful.

 

[nycwalking]

Soooo.... I traded in my other car, and only paid $2394 for this nice little Toyota Sienna VAN!
It's a 2000, with only 110,000 miles on it.
Took it to my mechanic who said it should run fine up to and over 300,000K.
And... this means I still have enough for a Camino, if I decide to walk.
It was a GOOD DAY!
To see more about the car...
https://anniesantiago2.blogspot.com/2021/07/isnt-she-lovely.html

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Annie,

Check out CheapRV Living on YT.

Tons of videos on how to make the most out of your minivan for: living, camping, and recreation.

I didn’t read every post so if this has already been suggested I ditto.

 

[Anniesantiago]

Annie,

Check out CheapRV Living on YT.

Tons of videos on how to make the most out of your minivan for: living, camping, and recreation.

I didn’t read every post so if this has already been suggested I ditto.

Thanks. I’ve been a member for many years.
i had a nice big screenshot of my face in Nomadland. And if you backtrack on the blog I posted you will see my last van.

 

[Sue127]

Good buy, Annie . Now you can enjoy traveling at home and à Camino. Enjoy the challenge of converting your Toyota. Great cars.

 

[Nick B]

Soooo.... I traded in my other car, and only paid $2394 for this nice little Toyota Sienna VAN!
It's a 2000, with only 110,000 miles on it.
Took it to my mechanic who said it should run fine up to and over 300,000K.
And... this means I still have enough for a Camino, if I decide to walk.
It was a GOOD DAY!
To see more about the car...
Annie's Van

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Was going to suggest you watch both The Way and Nomadland and make a decision, you've made it and a nice set of flash wheels by the looks of it.

 

[Paul Wilson]

Hands up everyone who’s not surprised @Anniesantiago got a van and a camino I hope you enjoy many trips in the van and buen camino when you go, btw I have a Vauxhall Zafira minivan with a fitted mattress for the back (Amazon) and a tailgate tent for a little more comfort

 

[leftoverlove]

I just checked my finances and I have about $4000 to play with.

I have been caring for my elderly mother and I really need a break. I had to sell my van last year in order to drive my mothers car to Oregon from California.

Walking the Camino would give me time to go slow and think and right now I have family who would keep an eye on her while I’m gone for 3 to 6 weeks.

Buying a van would give me the opportunity to take camping trips now and then to escape.

The question is, should I go walk the Camino this autumn (which I really feel like I need ) or should I invest in a new van (Which I really feel like I need)?

Oh, decisions, decisions...

What would YOU do?

Wow, what a question!

I have learned not to offer advice, but you might like to check out the movie, "Nomadland," or better yet, read the book on which it is based. Perhaps it could be of value to you.

 

[Camino Chrissy]

Great news, Annie! Your solution is that you found a way to do both, should you so desire.

 

[Bala]

Well done, Annie!

 

[Anniesantiago]

Wow, what a question!

I have learned not to offer advice, but you might like to check out the movie, "Nomadland," or better yet, read the book on which it is based. Perhaps it could be of value to you.

Thanks.
I was an extra in Nomadland.
In fact, I had a huge full page minute (see below).
I also have been a Nomad for several years.
Jessica Bruder, the author, met with us to learn about nomad living.

 

[Anniesantiago]

Was going to suggest you watch both The Way and Nomadland and make a decision, you've made it and a nice set of flash wheels by the looks of it.

Thanks.
I was an extra in both movies.

 

[Anniesantiago]

Since 2001 I've walked 6 Caminos (4 CF, 1 CP and 1 CI) each needed to be planned, scheduled and budgeted for well in advance.
Since 2002 I've owned an old and now quite battered VW Camper (Vanagon in the US) in which I've made countless sorties around my home island of Britain as well as into France and the Benelux.
Before retirement I would sometimes go to work in the van on Friday, disappear for the weekend and come into work on the Monday straight from camping.
In the summertime I'd have the van loaded with my kayak and could come home midweek and drive down to the beach (only a mile away from my house) for a paddle before coming home for dinner (if I didn't eat on the beach)
I've also used it to shift various people's belongings (including my elder daughter when she left uni)
At present the van lies gathering dust - campsites in the UK are over subscribed and prohibitvely expensive (100% more costly than last year) and any chance of leaving this blighted isle severely restricted due to Covid and government stupidity.
I can, of course, still drive down and park up on the White Cliffs of Dover and pine for France just 22 miles away in the haze and dream of Spain further away lazing in the heat of the afternoon sun.
So, if it were me, based on past experience, would I vote Camper or Camino?
Camper everytime. All things being equal I can fuel up and roll at a moment's notice and have a fresh advenuture whereas a Camino . . . not quite "been there, done that" just yet but there are other things I could be doing.
Whatever your choice Annie just make sure you enjoy it!

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Compeigne, France. Happier times.

I forgot to tell you that I love your hightop!
I thought about getting a high top van, but love the stealthiness of the Toyota Sienna.

 

[Anniesantiago]

You know, a van like this would be so nice for traveling the various Caminos if a person lived in Europe.
Here is the inside of my last Toyota Sienna.
My own little albergue...
With a solar suitcase, I had everything I needed.
Has anyone here ever traveled the Camino in a van?

 

[Jeff Crawley]

You know, a van like this would be so nice for traveling the various Caminos if a person lived in Europe.
Here is the inside of my last Toyota Sienna.
My own little albergue...
With a solar suitcase, I had everything I needed.
Has anyone here ever traveled the Camino in a van?

Would love to do the Camino aux Francais (in a vehicle) but I fear my 36 yo VW wouldn't make it from England to SdC and back inside of the Schengen limits!

I did see a similar van in 2015(?) not so much doing the Camino as offering care and solace to Pilgrims. They were Dutch and the van doubled as an ambulance/bag transport - there wasn't so much of that around in those days - lovely people.

Perhaps a newer van, post C19 mmmmm stealth camping in the Plaza Major, Leon!