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There would be no way to hold them. There's no entry gate, just two roads you can walk down.
And you don't have to stop in Roncesvalles, there are towns beyond.
And any backlog in SJPP would have major consequences for the new arrivals. The camino pushes people forward, doesn't hold them back.
Where did you hear this?
I heard that this weekend that 900 Pilgrims were being held in StJohn as there is only 320 beds available in Roncesvalles, is anybody able to confirm or negate this,
I start next week and am a little concerned
Which day are you leaving roger?I heard that this weekend that 900 Pilgrims were being held in StJohn as there is only 320 beds available in Roncesvalles, is anybody able to confirm or negate this,
I start next week and am a little concerned
And you don't have to stop in Roncesvalles, there are towns beyond.
be in Orrison next Monday night, looking forward to it!!Which day are you leaving roger?
almost same for me, Orisson first night and 2k's further he next night in ViskarretAs I'll be stopping at Orisson the first night I plan to go past Roncesvalles to Espinal the 2nd day.
This does seem unlikely, especially given @Kanga's post https://www.caminodesantiago.me/community/threads/its-today-my-very-favourite-day/ where she says there were plenty of accommodation options in St Jean at the weekend and seems to have had no problem getting a place in Roncesvalles. And as @NorthernLight says, there's no way of "holding" people in St Jean - it's just a town, with various roads heading in and out, two of which lead to Roncesvalles. I have this vision of a line of Pilgrim's Office volunteers and local police linking arms across the Rue d'Espagne, struggling to hold back hundreds of eager pilgrims! It sounds a little like one of those stories that goes around and becomes slightly different in the telling. Because if it really was true, how would it actually help? There would only be more people ready to depart the next day, surely?! Maybe the Pilgrim's Office in St Jean were just advising people they may have difficulty getting a bed if they hadn't booked ahead?
Perhaps the Pilgrim office is "suggesting" that people wait before starting out?*I think the term holding is being taken out of context,
*but this info came from a local Camino group
*I've booked ahead so no issue for me,
*but this is what forums are for, to seperate fact from fiction
. A load of caca de toro.
@Roger Deee:almost same for me, Orisson first night and 2k's further he next night in Viskarret
almost same for me, Orisson first night and 2k's further he next night in Viskarret
Yes indeed, like Albertagirl said, Viskarret is 11 km further then Roncesvalles. NOT 2.almost same for me, Orisson first night and 2k's further he next night in Viskarret
Who would "hold" the pilgrims and how? You go in the office and they take custody of you, restricting your movement? Or are there manned roadblocks out of town, stopping walkers and making them turn around only to be forced to stay?
Obviously an absurd rumor. A load of caca de toro. Really sad so much of it is spread, especially on here. Not taking a jab at the OP of this thread. Just a jab in general at the whole childish rumor mongering and embellishments that go on.
Any prospective pilgrims reading this, don't be dismayed by the BS. Walk without fear. Have a good time. ultreia
I have these crazy images of the Spanish Guardia Civil in their tiny SUV's and French Gendarmes packing AK 47's lined up along the N-135 and the D-428 stopping pilgrims from fleeing France. The locals would be up in arms, they want to put a stop to the migration coming from the other direction.FREE THE ST JEAN 900 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hi all. I have read there was 900 pilgrims entering at SANTIAGO´s chatedral yesterday. But you need to understand there are many caminos confluentto Santiago. You will have not unusual acomodations problems. Buen Camino
@Roger Deee:
I stayed in Biskarret, at Corazon Puro, the night after I stayed at Roncesvalles. I think that you should know that Viskarret is 11 km. after Roncesvalles, not 2. Buen camino.
Yes indeed, like Albertagirl said, Viskarret is 11 km further then Roncesvalles. NOT 2.
I see a more peaceful image: they keep them in pens, just below Huntto, and every morning 320 of them are released, over the mountains to their predestined beds in Roncesvalles.
... every morning 320 of them are released, over the mountains to their predestined beds in Roncesvalles.
I hear the airdrop for the SJPdP 900 was successful. Bagettes , mattress's and Pilgrims Passes landed without issue. Wine however cannot be had at any price.
Bernie , you made my day!! You take the cake Bud!!FREE THE ST JEAN 900 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I heard that this weekend that 900 Pilgrims were being held in StJohn as there is only 320 beds available in Roncesvalles, is anybody able to confirm or negate this.
Our group arrived in Roncevalles on May 3. A Dutch volunteer told me at breakfast the next morning that he was feeling bad that the large albergue (the one mentioned in OP's post and the one where the volunteer worked) was fully booked for the following day. I asked whether the hotel and other lodging in Roncevalles might absorb the overflow. He replied, "No, some people are just going to have to walk on".
The next day, May 4, we walked to Zubiri. I personally saw the owner of the albergue where we had reserved try to find a place for a couple. She phoned place after place. No luck. She finally sent them on to the municipal albergue where beds cannot be reserved. This happened about three more times as more people stopped in looking for a bed. The next morning another couple with whom we walked said that they had finally found a place 4 kilometers out of town. Other people had to sleep in a basement, I believe at the municipal albergue.
It pained me greatly to think this, because we had spent 27 days walking the CF in 2013 and only reserved rooms one or two times, but I wondered whether the popularity of the CF is straining its lodging capacity.
We had reserved ahead because our group totals 9 people.
Latest news from Donibane Garazi / SJPP - 14 women have given birth while being held at the detention camp. The actual number of detainees has increased to 915 ( one of the women had twins ) . The babies as well as the mothers are in fine health. All the babies have been given the of Santiago ( including the twins) as well as a Camino passport. The group will continue to be retained for now according to an official who wishes that his name not be mentioned.
FREE THE 915 NOW!!!!!!!
Ondo Ibili!
MendiWalker
Latest news ---- local sheep are angry as the 900 pilgrims have taken to eating the grass to supplement their meagre rations,however the farmer has been quoted as saying his fields have never looked so good.
On the night we were there the building was full and they were putting pilgrims in cabins. They are apparently no longer using the old Albergue. Some were forced to taxi ahead. The next night we stayed at pension Amets in Zubiri. Jose said pilgrims were arriving late in the afternoon and having to taxi all the way to Pamplona because everything between was full. Pilgrims were showing up at 11 am in Pamplona to find albergues full. I saw pilgrims sleeping on park benches in Pamplona. It is BUSY.
We stayed in Burguete. Only 30 min walk past Roncevalles.
We are in El Burgo Ranero right now. Just over half way done. The Camino is busy. Often you cannot find a room if you arrive in the late afternoon. This small town, which is not an end point in Brierely's book, was full by noon.
For anyone who is planning to stay in
private albergues or book double rooms in small hotels or casa rurales, I suggest you book at least a few days ahead. We are booking our places up to week ahead now that our bodies have adapted to the walk and we can more accurately judge how much distance we can cover in a day.
I find it takes the pressure off so we don't have to rush through our day to get to a place early or walk an extra 10km to find a room. This is especially true on the Meseta where the distances between towns are much further.
And if you book by phone, you need to call again before 14:00 to confirm and let them know approximately how much longer you will be of they may give your room away.
Is there a website that says how many people have left SJPDP each day?
I heard that this weekend that 900 Pilgrims were being held in StJohn as there is only 320 beds available in Roncesvalles, is anybody able to confirm or negate this.
Our group arrived in Roncevalles on May 3. A Dutch volunteer told me at breakfast the next morning that he was feeling bad that the large albergue (the one mentioned in OP's post and the one where the volunteer worked) was fully booked for the following day. I asked whether the hotel and other lodging in Roncevalles might absorb the overflow. He replied, "No, some people are just going to have to walk on".
The next day, May 4, we walked to Zubiri. I personally saw the owner of the albergue where we had reserved try to find a place for a couple. She phoned place after place. No luck. She finally sent them on to the municipal albergue where beds cannot be reserved. This happened about three more times as more people stopped in looking for a bed. The next morning another couple with whom we walked said that they had finally found a place 4 kilometers out of town. Other people had to sleep in a basement, I believe at the municipal albergue.
It pained me greatly to think this, because we had spent 27 days walking the CF in 2013 and only reserved rooms one or two times, but I wondered whether the popularity of the CF is straining its lodging capacity.
We had reserved ahead because our group totals 9 people.
Love this statement : LOL
I know. Nowadays both pacharan and orujo are avalaible all Spain long. But maybe, the newly borned fifteen would prefer some milk.Orujo is typical in Galicia where as Patxaran is the drink in Euskal Herria . Donibani Garazi / San Jean Pied de Port is in Euskal Herria.
The 915 will have to wait to they get to Santiago ( if they ever do).
Ondo Ibili !
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