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We walked in the better part of 10 days of rain and the temperature didn't break 40 F. But, once we stopped for the day, all was well. We stayed mostly warm and dry, and our gear was bone dry. Yes, it was a struggle, but mostly mental, and part of the reality of pilgrimage.Surely I'm not expecting multiple full days of rain, but I guess it could happen. I'm ready for rain. I'm happy with rain. Cold rain for days on end on the other hand will be an item to struggle through should it happen. I know I'd be antsy using some of my budgeted "off" days before even setting out from SJPP though.
The problem with waterproof is that they don't dry while you're wearing them, and only slowly after they're off. You might consider gaitors to minimize the water coming in the top, or consider shifting your strategy away from preventing water intrusion and adopting an approach that dries quickly once out of the water (i.e. non-waterproofed shoes).Did you waterproof you boots before the Camino? Technically my Merrell's are supposed to be waterproof, but it obviously doesn't stop water from entering the same hole in which your feet are meant to go!!
During the late spring and early summer it is fairly predictable that you will find some rain falling on you about 3 days of every week. In 2012 I delayed my start waiting for the weather to clear up and finally decided to leave on 19 May after seeing a forecast for an end of the rain. I found myself walking 4 days in the rain, so much for reading between the lines of weather forecasts. Once I reached Santo Domingo I never saw another drop of rain until I reached Galicia. Then it rained on me for a full week from Triacastel to Santiago during the middle of June. I walked through Galicia from Porto last year during the middle of July and never saw a drop rain.
It is about 2 weeks and I did on an ailing foot, there is only one major climb and less than 10% of the pilgrims found walking on the CF. Incredible scenery and great albergues.Don, How many days hike from Santiago to Oporto?
Comparable prices for food and lodging and the friendly people in the world beyond words. No major problems with the heat in July!Don,
Are the albergues more expensive along that route?
I'd imagine that route from Porto would warm (but not too hot) weather during July/August. I have been in parts around there and it is lovely.
Comparable prices for food and lodging and the friendly people in the world beyond words. No major problems with the heat in July!Don,
Are the albergues more expensive along that route?
I'd imagine that route from Porto would warm (but not too hot) weather during July/August. I have been in parts around there and it is lovely.
I experienced all day hard rain more than once and wished I'd had gaiters - not bc of mud but bc without them a good amount of the rain that hits your legs or poncho drips on to your feet/ankles. Gaiters keep water out of the "foot hole" in your shoes.I just wore my golf rain gear ....... worked really well. Backpack comes with a rain cover and my golf rain gear was light to carry as well. I also suggest gaiters to keep the mud off your pant legs.
here is a link to some gaiters:
http://www.mec.ca/product/4010-774/mec-short-gaiters-unisex/?q=gaiters
Nice touch. Those long pants must have acted like gaiters?I got rain pants with slightly longer legs and I dropped the ends right down over my boots, almost to the ground, when it rained. My boots, or boot, only got really wet once and that was when the leg of my rain pants got hung up on the back of one boot and the water ran into the boot instead of to the ground. I didn't notice this until my boot was soaked but the newspaper trick worked well that night, also try and put your boots on the highest shelf in the albergue because it will be slightly warmer up there and should dry a bit faster.
Buen Camino.
My advice would be to ensure you have good wet weather gear,go for trousers and water proof jacket ,ponchos have a habit of lifting in the wind.Does your Rucksack have a waterproof cover? If not always put your dry gear in a bin liner inside your sack,also have a spare bin liner to put wet gear into so you do not soil everything else.We begin our 1st Camino 1 week from today with our arrival in SJPP on the 26th or 27th depending on if all 5 connections work (odds are against us I know).
Weather forecast looks ...unfortunate...rain for 5 days straight.
Ok it is the Camino I've learned enough from these posts to take a breath and relax. It will all be ok and my wife and I will be fine.
So I'm seeking advice. What do you do with a cold rain for days and days.
Tips for drying out and warming up. Getting boots and other items dry for the next morning etc. overcoming natural depression a out starting a journey for days in a cold rain.
They did but were not as effective as gaiters against muddy boots.Nice touch. Those long pants must have acted like gaiters?
Hi Clearskies, sad to hear that you won't be starting the same day as meKind of glad I postponed my Camino now. Was meant to start on 29th.
When I think back on my Camino (Autumn, 2013), the days of pounding rain are as positive and memorable as the days of sunshine.
Find someone like me with a 3 g phone who will check the weather for you live
Great.....four elastic bands added to my packing list.Someone on this forum told me that gaiters were a necessity. So I dutifully bought them, but discarded them already in Roncesvalles - too heavy, took up too much room.
I have since learned that a couple of plastic bags may serve as gaiters - with a couple of elastic bands to hold them - so very lightweight and easy to discard and and renew.
I will also recommend zip-off trousers. So easy to just to wash the bottom part if drying facilities are not optimum.
annelise
BBC weather is a good site just type in town or city to get a feel for the region.I am just finishing packing my Rucksack and putting an extra layer of dubbin on my boots!! When do you start? We start from SJPP early Friday
I just checked the outside conditions in the morning before I left. If it was raining I put on rainpants and jacket and just headed off, sometimes if it was very cold I would put on the rainpants as well as it makes a good wind breaker, then just take them off as the weather changed for the better. The weather is what it is, just go with the flow.Speaking of weather....
From veterans of the Camino, what is the best way to know/prepare for the next day's weather. I've read that the coffee shop / bar in the morning pilgrims hawk over the TV waiting for the weather forcast. True?
Do you recommend a weather site that is local and "accurate" that you check during walk.
Do you ignore it completely and go with the flow?
Curious.
Peter, we're a few days behind you getting into SJPP on Monday evening the 26th. However we have a 5 connection flight (don't ask) to get there so I'm counting on at least one missed/cancelled/delayed flight with a resulting first day on the Camino fo the 28th. If we all goes well, we'll have one additional "break" day.
Our return flight is the 1st of July.
I am with @wayfarer on this. I merely looked out the window or door in the morning, and decided whether to start with a fleece or a rain jacket as my outer layer. This year, I normally used my rain jacket as it stopped any chilly morning breeze as well as providing enough warmth. If it wasn't raining, once I began to raise a sweat, I knew it was warm enough to take th e jacket off.Speaking of weather....
From veterans of the Camino, what is the best way to know/prepare for the next day's weather. I've read that the coffee shop / bar in the morning pilgrims hawk over the TV waiting for the weather forcast. True?
Do you recommend a weather site that is local and "accurate" that you check during walk.
Do you ignore it completely and go with the flow?
Curious.
Ahm, Annelise - what kind of gaiters have you bought??? I was an alpinist and I do know very well that good gaiters weight close to nothing. But sure you don't need either of them that time of year even if there's a snow stormSomeone on this forum told me that gaiters were a necessity. So I dutifully bought them, but discarded them already in Roncesvalles - too heavy, took up too much room.
I have since learned that a couple of plastic bags may serve as gaiters - with a couple of elastic bands to hold them - so very lightweight and easy to discard and and renew.
I will also recommend zip-off trousers. So easy to just to wash the bottom part if drying facilities are not optimum.
annelise
You can also help yourself with this site:BBC weather is a good site just type in town or city to get a feel for the region.I am just finishing packing my Rucksack and putting an extra layer of dubbin on my boots!! When do you start? We start from SJPP early Friday
Speaking of weather....
From veterans of the Camino, what is the best way to know/prepare for the next day's weather. I've read that the coffee shop / bar in the morning pilgrims hawk over the TV waiting for the weather forcast. True?
Do you recommend a weather site that is local and "accurate" that you check during walk.
Do you ignore it completely and go with the flow?
Curious.
If your smartphone has a weather app, it should be able to give you local weather. If not, get the Weather Channel app, which will give you the forecast wherever you are using the closest available data. Worked fine on the Camino for us.Peter... I'll have an smartphone (world phone), but was wondering if anyone had a recommended site on which to check the weather.
@whariwharangi this is so true.Weather forecasts? Most of the time you have not much choice but to walk so a weather forecast isn't usually going to have an influence on your plans. Its a waste of time to worry about stuff you can't change. The only exception might be rare weather events such as high level confidence predictions of heavy snow that suggest it'd be better making the mountain pass today instead of tomorrow.
Preparation? You wear what you wore the morning before ... a jacket if its usually cool in the morning or just a shirt if its not. You put on and take off layers depending on your need. That's something you decide when you leave the albergue in the morning. The only time to be concerned about it is now when you are preparing your pack for the journey so that you have what you need when you need it.
I started out from St Jean on 29th April forecast was for snow and rain would you believe it it was a great day for walking. I would suggest and if you are not carrying more than 5kg for women and 7kg for men get yourself a pair of crocs you know those plastic sandals once across the pyrenees from Roncevalles get into sandals keep your feet cool carry four pairs of socks and two zip off trousers (i water proofed mine) get yourself a poncho to cover you and your ruck and if the rain is still pouring down take plenty of cover stops there are plenty of churches shops and coffee places along the way. I found the further west it got warmer but maybe i was lucky.We begin our 1st Camino 1 week from today with our arrival in SJPP on the 26th or 27th depending on if all 5 connections work (odds are against us I know).
Weather forecast looks ...unfortunate...rain for 5 days straight.
Ok it is the Camino I've learned enough from these posts to take a breath and relax. It will all be ok and my wife and I will be fine.
So I'm seeking advice. What do you do with a cold rain for days and days.
Tips for drying out and warming up. Getting boots and other items dry for the next morning etc. overcoming natural depression a out starting a journey for days in a cold rain.
Wayfarer where is the sign in your avater i think i passed it going into Logrono but like everything the days mesh into each other and i couldnt be sureThings happen for a reason, I should be somewhere in Spain now but since I got home I met two lovely people I would otherwise have not met, was in a guard of honour for a friend who died and several other events that I would have not been involved in had I been in Spain.
I brought gaiters with me but didnt use them and they folded up inside my waterproof ruck cover but i think i used the ruck cover twicw in lite rain in the mornings but gaiters had no weight in them food and water was my biggest weight but couldnt do with out my porridge in the mornings and a cuppa made from water boiled in my storm kettle home from home Buen CaminoAhm, Annelise - what kind of gaiters have you bought??? I was an alpinist and I do know very well that good gaiters weight close to nothing. But sure you don't need either of them that time of year even if there's a snow storm
Ultreia!
Its on the climb up before the steep decent down to Zubiri. I got a PM a few weeks ago saying that it had been replaced by a spanking new one, pity, it gave me a good laugh and inspiration on a cold wet day when I was asking myself "what the hell am I doing here".After that I learned to embrace the whole Camino, good, bad and otherwise.
I started out from St Jean on 29th April forecast was for snow and rain would you believe it it was a great day for walking. I would suggest and if you are not carrying more than 5kg for women and 7kg for men get yourself a pair of crocs you know those plastic sandals once across the pyrenees from Roncevalles get into sandals keep your feet cool carry four pairs of socks and two zip off trousers (i water proofed mine) get yourself a poncho to cover you and your ruck and if the rain is still pouring down take plenty of cover stops there are plenty of churches shops and coffee places along the way. I found the further west it got warmer but maybe i was lucky.
Remember these are trousers i washed in Tech Wash then waterproofed inDoes waterproofing also stop the fabrics from "breathing"?
No not at all as the trousers are open at the bottom allowing air in the gap i didnt have any problems use a tech wash and wash in water proofer such as Tech Wash i had two pairs which i used as longs on cold days and shorts (zip offs) on warmer days.Does waterproofing also stop the fabrics from "breathing"?
Remember these are trousers i washed in Tech Wash then waterproofed in
No not at all as the trousers are open at the bottom allowing air in the gap i didnt have any problems use a tech wash and wash in water proofer such as Tech Wash i had two pairs which i used as longs on cold days and shorts (zip offs) on warmer days.
No No not at all the tech wash will last you for a good month or so before it breaks down i would suggest you try a pair i bought two pairs of Karrimor trousers in Sports direct to be dumped on completion of my trip and the only problem i had was the tummy button came off lucky i had my pound town sewing kit which doubled up as a blister repair kit to sew the button back onDid you then have to bring Tech Wash along and use that for every wash of the pants?
Where did you find a 3 gram phone? I've heard of ultralight, but holy smokes . . .Find someone like me with a 3 g phone who will check the weather for you live
Most of the "waterproofing" treatments really just add a water repellency, which keeps them highly breathable but they can still be soaked through. This is typically more than sufficient for all but torrential issues with pants.Does waterproofing also stop the fabrics from "breathing"?
I personally think rain suits are overkill and uncomfortably hot because they're not sufficiently breathable to keep from building up interior sweat under exertion in even mild temperatures.Has anyone used these - they say they are lightweight and look like they'd be a good option.
Frogg Toggs® Women's Pro Action Rain Suits
Ladybird --- If you're like the Irish I walked with last year, you'll probably just smile (with just the proper amount of annoyed condescension) and then walk straight into the teeth of the storm without a backward glance!I am the same looking at the forecast and worrying about the rain. Also it is meant to be only 6 degrees on Thursday, is it that cold. !!!! sounds like winter to me and I am Irish.
AHAHAHAHAHAHA, great!!!Where did you find a 3 gram phone? I've heard of ultralight, but holy smokes . . .
Sorry to hear that the sign has been replaced. I also got a good laugh and was inspired by it. I'm glad I took a picture of it - next Camino I will have to look at my photo of the old sign on my way to Zubiri.Its on the climb up before the steep decent down to Zubiri. I got a PM a few weeks ago saying that it had been replaced by a spanking new one, pity, it gave me a good laugh and inspiration on a cold wet day when I was asking myself "what the hell am I doing here".After that I learned to embrace the whole Camino, good, bad and otherwise.
Ha, I like this!!
KinkyOne, I don't remember the make, but they were rather voluminous, and when now going back and checking my gear list, they were 273 grammes. (And yes, I weighed every item, even to the minutest items!) I bought them in a trekker shop.Ahm, Annelise - what kind of gaiters have you bought??? I was an alpinist and I do know very well that good gaiters weight close to nothing. But sure you don't need either of them that time of year even if there's a snow storm
Ultreia!
It was still there 3 rd May, kept us going when life was feeling toughIts on the climb up before the steep decent down to Zubiri. I got a PM a few weeks ago saying that it had been replaced by a spanking new one, pity, it gave me a good laugh and inspiration on a cold wet day when I was asking myself "what the hell am I doing here".After that I learned to embrace the whole Camino, good, bad and otherwise.
That is great news Helen, thank you. It is positioned just perfectly, when you are ready to just give up, there it is, the perfect boost.It was still there 3 rd May, kept us going when life was feeling tough
I just checked the outside conditions in the morning before I left. If it was raining I put on rainpants and jacket and just headed off, sometimes if it was very cold I would put on the rainpants as well as it makes a good wind breaker, then just take them off as the weather changed for the better. The weather is what it is, just go with the flow.
We could have crossed paths Annie, what dates in April 2012?2012 in April I walked 800 km in 29 days and 23 days of them it was raining, hailing, snowing, thunder storms and walking upstream and downstream on MUDDY paths.
Keep yourself warm (layers and wool) and keep on walking.
Buen camino
Two friends and I just completed hiking Le Puy to Conques on June 8. We had received a terrible weather forecast for this route just before arrival. But we ended up with mostly sunny days, temperature in the 60s, with only one day of rain and some drizzle on another. So don't put too much stock in forecasts that are more than 1-2 days out. Note, from admittedly only one experience on this section: weather in the Aubrac just seems to be worse than in other places.We begin our 1st Camino 1 week from today with our arrival in SJPP on the 26th or 27th depending on if all 5 connections work (odds are against us I know).
Weather forecast looks ...unfortunate...rain for 5 days straight.
Ok it is the Camino I've learned enough from these posts to take a breath and relax. It will all be ok and my wife and I will be fine.
So I'm seeking advice. What do you do with a cold rain for days and days.
Tips for drying out and warming up. Getting boots and other items dry for the next morning etc. overcoming natural depression a out starting a journey for days in a cold rain.
Sometimes we are moving at the same pace and direction of weather. Weather is NOT a static event it is constantly moving and changing and has a direct relationship with the earth. It's a very interesting phenomenon really. So if the forecast says there is an end in sight it's probably for the location where you are in that moment. So if the weather is moving west and so are you, you are going to experience whatever that system is delivering for much longer...During the late spring and early summer it is fairly predictable that you will find some rain falling on you about 3 days of every week. In 2012 I delayed my start waiting for the weather to clear up and finally decided to leave on 19 May after seeing a forecast for an end of the rain. I found myself walking 4 days in the rain, so much for reading between the lines of weather forecasts. Once I reached Santo Domingo I never saw another drop of rain until I reached Galicia. Then it rained on me for a full week from Triacastel to Santiago during the middle of June. I walked through Galicia from Porto last year during the middle of July and never saw a drop rain.
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