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Hi,
what prayer books do you take with you on camino? Obviously a lightweighted is to be preferred and I think rosary is obligatory.
What is the standard for prayers before communal meals?
I just asked for inspiration with the prayerbooks others take with themselves.There is no standard. You'll find many people walking the camino come from all over the world and have different faith backgrounds (or none at all) so hopefully this helps to adjust expectations on what is obligatory.
I just asked for inspiration with the prayerbooks others take with themselves.
Nothing is obligatory to bring on the Camino, take what you need or want.Hi,
what prayer books do you take with you on camino? Obviously a lightweighted is to be preferred and I think rosary is obligatory.
What is the standard for prayers before communal meals?
No obligation to pray....only an obligation to walk....Hi,
what prayer books do you take with you on camino? Obviously a lightweighted is to be preferred and I think rosary is obligatory.
What is the standard for prayers before communal meals?
I was going to say this too! Suitable for caminos lasting around the 2-week mark as there are 15 verses. So maybe Primitivo?I also took a Kindle version of a book based on the Psalms of Ascent, the prayers of the ancient Hebrews on their pilgrimages to the Temple in Jerusalem.
daily Hours on an online app called "Universalis.com." It fits in my telephone, long as I have wifi I can get it all done. When offline I can also use the app OSH Daily Office, from the Order of Saint Helena.
a lightweight wooden rosary and several prayer apps for my phone, including one with the rosary prayers in Spanish.
This was more useful than I thought it would be, because the local parishioners often pray the rosary before the pilgrims’ Mass and I could join in.
@Thorben why not scan or locate a PDF of your favorite and put it on your phone that way you are not dependent on WIFI.
The only thing I carry is a dual language (Spanish/English) version of the Catholic mass which I’m fairly sure I found on here, somewhere. One sheet of waterproof paper, which is quite heavy enough. It helps me stand up and sit down at the right time.
Somewhere on this forum (maybe resources page?) there is a 40-day devotional, aimed at Camino Frances and starting a week-ish pre-Camino. If you can’t find it, PM me your email address and I can email that to you.
There’s also a pilgrim who wrote a daily devotional book, you can find kindle version so no extra weight to carry if you download it to your phone, available on Amazon.
Thank you so much for the wonderful resources!I took the relevant pages of the magazine Magnificat, which has the daily mass readings as well other prayers, essays and meditations. The paper is wafer-thin, so no worries about extra weight. I also took a copy of the mass in Spanish, which I found online and printed out, as well as the Our Father and Hail Mary in Spanish for the special times when I was invited to say the rosary with some of the local churchgoers.
Universalis, mentioned above, is a great online resource, as is Laudate. I also took a Kindle version of a book based on the Psalms of Ascent, the prayers of the ancient Hebrews on their pilgrimages to the Temple in Jerusalem. This particular book was written for pilgrims going to Santiago. For the life of me, I can't find it on my phone now but as soon as I dig out the exact title and author I will post it.
Is it this one?For the life of me, I can't find it on my phone now
Yes! I was just about to post, but you beat me to it.
I bring Forward Day by Day. It is very small, and comes out every 3 months. Each page has verses and contemplation, and then some location around the world to pray for that day. Since it is printed every quarter, I can tear out the pages from weeks past to make it even more light weight. Some decades ago I made a promise to say the Rosary daily and I use my fingers to keep track, instead of fussing with beads.Hi,
what prayer books do you take with you on camino? Obviously a lightweighted is to be preferred and I think rosary is obligatory.
What is the standard for prayers before communal meals?
I carry no prayer book. It is not obligatory to say the rosary. There is no standard for prayers before communal meals.Hi,
what prayer books do you take with you on camino? Obviously a lightweighted is to be preferred and I think rosary is obligatory.
What is the standard for prayers before communal meals?
@LavanyaLea Lea If you mean this 'Forty Days' devotional it is still available on-line as a pdf file, so will load onto a phone.Somewhere on this forum (maybe resources page?) there is a 40-day devotional, aimed at Camino Frances and starting a week-ish pre-Camino. If you can’t find it, PM me your email address and I can email that to you.
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I don't take any prayer books. I have never noticed an obvious prayer before communal meals.
Hi,
what prayer books do you take with you on camino? Obviously a lightweighted is to be preferred and I think rosary is obligatory.
What is the standard for prayers before communal meals?
What is the standard for prayers before communal meals?
I read the rules. Nobody needs to judge it, just give inspiration.
I have never noticed an obvious prayer before communal meals.
I took the time to insert these quotes for a specific reason. I would never and I have never met anyone on any camino I have walked that have judged how others have expressed their faith. I do not see where Tincatinker expressed judgement of how you want to pray or in what manner etc. I have never sat at a communal meal where there was a prayer before the meal. I am not saying it does not happen especially in a parochial donativo/albergue. But when I have heard blessings in different settings they are generic in nature and non specific to any religion. If you want to pray before a meal go right ahead and do it. Many people take comfort in prayer and others like myself believe they are not divine and have no personal connection to the prayers. Then there are others who fall somewhere in the middle. No matter just do what you feel you need to do. There are no judgements. Often I find judgements that are expressed here, myself included are defenses against people who have a different outlook or experience. Maybe protestations about judgements by well meaning others is a protection from us opening our own eyes to see what others may see.I believe the recitation of the rosary is obligatory only to members of some specific confraternities, there is no obligation on pilgrims. Similarly recitation of Grace prior to meals is a matter of individual choice.
Please pm me, I'd be gratefulSomewhere on this forum (maybe resources page?) there is a 40-day devotional, aimed at Camino Frances and starting a week-ish pre-Camino. If you can’t find it, PM me your email address and I can email that to you.
There’s also a pilgrim who wrote a daily devotional book, you can find kindle version so no extra weight to carry if you download it to your phone, available on Amazon.
In Santiago, all the gift shops sell rosaries, but I found the ones at the Cathedral look nicer, IMO. So I got one for my Mom, one with scallop shaped beads.
What a great resource! I never knew that US Armed Forces Prayer Book existed. Thank you so much for the recommendation!Two venerable Anglican Catholic standards! (1) The historic 1928 American Book of Common Prayer (which I use faithfully every day for my morning and evening offices), and (2) the 1953 US Armed Forces Prayer Book.... Same as back home.
Thank you so very much for this link. We're planning the VdlP next Spring and will take this with us! These different resources are really helpful.@LavanyaLea Lea If you mean this 'Forty Days' devotional it is still available on-line as a pdf file, so will load onto a phone.
We took it on the Primitivo and it is good. Bible readings for meditation, and pictures but not prayers.
Buen Camino @Thorben
I use an app on my phone.I just asked what prayerbooks other people take with them.
I read the rules. Nobody needs to judge it, just give inspiration.
That is a personal choice, as far as prayers before meals there were only a few alburges that had prayers before a provided meal.. For myself I thanked the Lord for the day, the people and asked for continued blessings for all those on the Camino. While walking I prayed continuously though not formally though I noticed quickly that if I didn’t say a prayer first thing my walk was off then I would click in that I hadn’t and then say a prayer my day always got betterHi,
what prayer books do you take with you on camino? Obviously a lightweighted is to be preferred and I think rosary is obligatory.
What is the standard for prayers before communal meals?
I’m not religious (in fact I used to be quite anti though have mellowed). I don’t pray, go to church or ‘believe’. But I have quite enjoyed being part of something (people praying before meals, going to church, etc) on the Camino which may sound daft given I am a non believer but it’s added to my Camino experience. Several other folks have said the same to me, and I don’t think most folks feel it (the religious aspect of the canaino) is tricky, intimidating, mandatory or anything else. Similar to when I was working and getting involved in Diwali and Ramadan.That is a personal choice, as far as prayers before meals there were only a few alburges that had prayers before a provided meal.. For myself I thanked the Lord for the day, the people and asked for continued blessings for all those on the Camino. While walking I prayed continuously though not formally though I noticed quickly that if I didn’t say a prayer first thing my walk was off then I would click in that I hadn’t and then say a prayer my day always got better
Wait to buy your rosaries until you get to Santiago. I purchased some for my aunts. The intermediate beads were silver metal sea shells. Also have them blessed at the cathedral. I'm not devote but my aunts are and the sea shell ornaments reminded them of my pilgrimage. So who's the better catholic now Aunt Ima?I totally understand the question @Thorben , this was originally a religious pilgrimage and some people may wish to follow that tradition, specially believers. Plus there will be so many hours to be with your own thoughts during the camino!
In a ddition to many good camino tools, the Buen Camino app has 35 daily meditations; one for each stage from Antonio Danoz Fernández's book Walking to Santiago with the Gospel. The app suggests to read one meditation before you start your daily walk to ponder over it during those quiet hours. Unfortunately, they are in Spanish but you can copy&paste on google translate.
I also plan to buy a rosary at my start point that can be, in turn, a meaningful gift for my mother after my pilgrimage.
Ultreia !
I am sure there is an interview with the author of this devotional (or a similar one) either on the My Camino or Camino Cafe podcasts. I am sure it would be pretty easy to find.Somewhere on this forum (maybe resources page?) there is a 40-day devotional, aimed at Camino Frances and starting a week-ish pre-Camino. If you can’t find it, PM me your email address and I can email that to you.
There’s also a pilgrim who wrote a daily devotional book, you can find kindle version so no extra weight to carry if you download it to your phone, available on Amazon.
In Santiago, all the gift shops sell rosaries, but I found the ones at the Cathedral look nicer, IMO. So I got one for my Mom, one with scallop shaped beads.
He probably did multiple interviews, the one I listened to was the one with El Camino People.I am sure there is an interview with the author of this devotional (or a similar one) either on the My Camino or Camino Cafe podcasts. I am sure it would be pretty easy to find.
On my first camino I stayed in the Parochial Rectory in Bercianos. To this day it is my favorite albergue even though the floor squeezed like crazy when someone went to the bathroom at night. We shared in preparing a wonderful communal dinner and people from each country would get together and sing a song from their country. It was fantastic. After dinner a young priest took some of us into a meditation room and he gave beautiful blessings for us. We then went around the room holding a candle to say our names where we were from and something about why we have come or what we may have discovered. Everyone spoke in their own language. It was a powerful spiritual experience I will not forget.Except at certain parroquial albergues where you would be invited to a prayer and even there it was always a gentle question and certainly not a moral obligation.
It was accepted that others and I would not join in praying.
I remember ,on my first Camino, that in the donativo in Tosantos the hospi went with some pilgrims to church while two other pilgrims and I stayed in the albergue prepping the meal for all of us.
Is that the podcast by the young man from Pamplona. I thought it might of been his podcast after I posted. Thanks so much.He probably did multiple interviews, the one I listened to was the one with El Camino People.
56# G.M.T. Brosius – A daily pilgrim devotional – ElCaminoPeople
Do you decide to walk the Camino? Or the Camino called you and you said yes? And what is a devotional? This and more here!elcaminopeople.com
Hi Rebekah,I pray the daily Hours on an online app called "Universalis.com." It fits in my telephone, long as I have wifi I can get it all done. When offline I can also use the app OSH Daily Office, from the Order of Saint Helena.
Oye muchísimas gracias!!! Spanish is my first language and I didn't know about the daily meditations options. I already have the app on my phone, but after reading your advice I found the meditations under 'Guía del Peregrino'. Saludos.I totally understand the question @Thorben , this was originally a religious pilgrimage and some people may wish to follow that tradition, specially believers. Plus there will be so many hours to be with your own thoughts during the camino!
In a ddition to many good camino tools, the Buen Camino app has 35 daily meditations; one for each stage from Antonio Danoz Fernández's book Walking to Santiago with the Gospel. The app suggests to read one meditation before you start your daily walk to ponder over it during those quiet hours. Unfortunately, they are in Spanish but you can copy&paste on google translate.
I also plan to buy a rosary at my start point that can be, in turn, a meaningful gift for my mother after my pilgrimage.
Ultreia !
I have not noticed any prayer books or anyone having one.Hi,
what prayer books do you take with you on camino? Obviously a lightweighted is to be preferred and I think rosary is obligatory.
What is the standard for prayers before communal meals?
@Thorben , if you have Spotify in your cellphone, I just found this beautiful prayer playlist. If you subscribe to the free trial, do it before your camino so you can download it in your phone for those times when there is no WiFi :Hi,
what prayer books do you take with you on camino? Obviously a lightweighted is to be preferred...
¡Oye, un placer peregrino! Luego nos pensamos que hay más recursos en inglés y miraOye muchísimas gracias!!! Spanish is my first language and I didn't know about the daily meditations options. I already have the app on my phone, but after reading your advice I found the meditations under 'Guía del Peregrino'. Saludos.
This is a religious topic and it hasn't been closed....yet. It's when people make broad argumentative statements like that the Camino is only for religious purposes and not spiritual it gets close to breaking rule#2.Moderators, please don't shut this thread, it has great resources.
How about everyone agrees that there are people that want to do the pilgrimage for religious reasons and that there are others that don't?
The camino brings good to all
Has the administrator thought of having a section for religious topics so believers don't offend others?
Buen camino!
Thank you for the app idea, the lighter the better! Cherry on top: bilingual!!!At risk of returning to the original post, I would add in the app iBreviary as highly useful. Not only can you get the parts of the mass, the schedule of readings, the liturgy of the hours, and a plethora of regular Catholic prayers, you can also get them in Spanish which will help you to follow along.
Something that hasn't been mentioned yet is The
Way of the Pilgrim, and specifically the Jesus prayer, which I find an ideal way of praying while walking.
Another thought is something like an audible version of Teresa of Avila's Way of Perfection or Interior Castle, or one of John of the Cross' books. On my first Camino, I listen to and reflected on Interior Castle for much of the walk, and it revolutionized my spiritual life.