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I don't have personal experience of the devices mentioned but after considering the comments from a previous thread on this topic they only seem to work as intended if your long trousers have a zip/button opening in the crutch area or your shorts have very wide leg openings.
I didn’t have one on my last camino but wished I did on several occasions; I since have gotten a Tlnklebell and use it regularly on backcountry hikes, and will bring it on my next camino this fall!
You’re supposed to practise, Annie, in your shower!
And I was just thinking that a skirt would be ideal when using one of these (if one has difficulty squatting); that way one can avoid bum exposure.
In the time it took to unzip, pull down my panties which you must do in order to place the danged thing, I can squat, pee, wipe, and be on my way. Lol. It was just more than I was willing to mess with…You’re supposed to practise, Annie, in your shower!
As to using this gadget while wearing pants, I know one of our members said she removed the zipper on her pants and replaced it with a longer one, but that would be beyond my expertise.
On the other hand, motherhood, if you choose it, is not only the greatest challenge and pain but also, often, such a joy! But I'm in menopause, so the other issues don't seem quite so bad now.This is Japanese to me.Need to research this tool. Men got it so easy! Why we are the ones that got all these pee issues, pms, pregnancy? Lol just explain that one!
You’re supposed to practise, Annie, in your shower!
As to using this gadget while wearing pants, I know one of our members said she removed the zipper on her pants and replaced it with a longer one, but that would be beyond my expertise.
Annie I love your blog so I know you hate toilet tissue. You don't need paper with one of these! I've found my tinkerbell easy to use with a little practice.
I don't need to pull much down while using mine. My bum is not exposed. I can turn my back and not worry about being seen with my pants down. That's great.
The pStyle doesn't require you to pull down underwear. Just move them aside. That said, I think that I should practice with it again before my next Camino.
Hahaha! I wear boy cut so I can’t pull them aside. But yeah, that would work. Lol.The pStyle doesn't require you to pull down underwear. Just move them aside. That said, I think that I should practice with it again before my next Camino.
Yes, permanently attached, well sealed, normally quite flexible and extensible so that it can be navigated through narrow gaps in my clothing.This is Japanese to me.
I have tried a couple of the Pstyle options, but find them useless on the Camino. Women's slacks do not have a zipper running down well into the crotch area, so you can not manipulate the Pstyle easily unless you partially pull down your pants anyway. Underwear becomes the next problem to "navigate". On the camino while trying to hurry and be unseen by others who may be walking by they are just too much work imo, and take more time fumbling around while standing up. I do love the concept, but...
They do work great in the privacy of a stall in public bathrooms.
Bought one, never ever used it.
Yes I think it's worth it.
I think this is a subject we should stay away from haha
Yes, same happened to me. Tried it out in the shower, couldn't get a snug fit so got wet legs. Waste of money, alas, for me.
2nd Camino coming up - I know there are places I don't want to crouch or pull down my pants so I plan to wear a loose Levi skirt for most days- loose underwear (or none) I may make an opening in skirt or pocket to move underwear aside? Cloth or tissue clean up; How about snap or Velcro crotch for pants ? I think there is an opportunity for a new design for hiking pants
I only ever saw one woman using it. She ended up with pee all over her as it overflowed. It just didn’t drain quickly enough… I think she tossed it after that.
I have one and not used much because of the following query- it needs cleaning after use on the trail…Using our valued water supply ? Or is there a better way?
The pStyle and the Tinkle Belle aren't funnel shaped, so they shouldn't overflow. They are open at the top - a chute to direct the pee away from your body.
I have not used any of these products. I thought about opening the seam and replacing with velco but I thought it would just be too uncomfortable. I crowdfunded a startup that has been very delayed by covid and am hoping to receive pants in the spring. The pants have a zipper that starts at the bottom of the zipper fly and opens around the back to make it easier to squat and pee. It may be awhile but I am looking forward to receiving them when they can get back into production.
And in the unsavoury toilets at music festivals. I've been known to walk into the men's urinal tent with mine when I was desperate.They do work great in the privacy of a stall in public bathrooms.
I prefer to be the one accidently looking rather than the one "doing".
I understand how Annie feels, I used my go girl without problems several times but I never know when it's not going to have a good seal and after a wet pants I leave it at home. Besides squating in the bushes is good for my butt and my leg muscles. As for toilet paper I carry a half a bandana that I use for wetness and also wear a panty liner. I do carry some paper for the rare more serious job but of course pack it out in the plastic bag. I have bought something new called a Kula cloth that you can clip on your backpack and it's treated with some kind of treatment that kills germs. You can use it several times and it washes easily.
I think of it like this - carry as little as possible. (I have seen a few of these devices abandoned in albergues)
Yeah, I bought one too, and found it to be a hassle. I just squat. If you can't squat because of knee problems, you sit on a rock or log and hang your bottom end over the other side. Sorry for the graphic description, but I hope it's useful.
I agree here. My first two devices were open at the top and worked perfectly. I recently ordered a funnel shaped one and suffered the overflow situation. I ordered another pStyle and it's what I need. I find them to be preferable to baring my bum in a squat. You still try to find bushes and be discreet, but I find I don't feel as exposed using this device.
Funny story on the Le Puy route - hadn't found a loo in miles and desparation came with no cover on a road between stone walls - squatted in a meagre gap with my friend standing in front when 3 French ladies came around the corner - lots of laughs all round
You are a genius!
I'm sure the skirt is a key factor in having success with much less fumbling.
Ive never wet myself with my tinkle bell, not even close, and you use it to wipe too, so NO paper.
Yes and while practice is a good idea it isnt always required. My tinkerbell has been very helpful.
My cat as a child was named Tinkerbell and she always used a litterbox to wee and never "missed".
He was clever! I think it's an anatomy thing.I had a cat that used to urinate down the plug hole in the bath. I thought that he was very clever
I took my shewee with me, but managed to hang on until I got to the next bar. However, I will take it again next year.
I brought my She-Wee the first camino and never used it. Left it home on the next two. Leave it home. Everyone is considerate and gives you privacy when possible. Besides that, there are many towns that you can use the bano
You might find good info re female issues on the closed females only facebook Camino group CAMIGAS. Lots of posts regarding these devices.
It seems that there are women who like using these devices. It's fine to say what works for you, but the only things that I would tell people that they should leave behind are their fears and expectations. Other than that people can make their own decisions based on their own personal needs.
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Agree
When bushwalking I particularly appreciate not lowering my nether regions within jumping distance of some nasty wild life ( big bull ants) and I prefer keeping my eye out for snakes from all directions , not to mention leaches or ticks.I agree that walking pants or shorts need to be somewhat lowered when standing , but I usually am in a long loose shirt with butt coverage The pibella is anatomically fitted and that means no overflow when fitted correctly. It also means a limit to the flow rate And no need for tissue. I must confess I do wonder how it looks from afar , though haven’t had to use it in a bare treeless landscape.
I think, before giving advice to someone, one should perhaps ask this question first: Do you need to get up during the night to go to the bathroom?
You men have a permanent and perfect "He-wee".Yes, permanently attached, well sealed, normally quite flexible and extensible so that it can be navigated through narrow gaps in my clothing.
I'll bet you didn't say 'darned things".
Urine is sterile; shake it out, put it in a travel bag for it, and rinse it out at the next place you have ample water. For the day it shouldn't be a problem. Think like a kula cloth
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I love my pstyle. Practice makes perfect. Also, Gnara pants are helpful. The pants have a zipper so you can pee or poop without dropping trousers. The zipper goes from stem to stern, you just pull aside your undies (so no boyleg undies).
Urine on the floor is not so sterile; it has the food to grow bacteria once on the floor, and the floor is not sterile-poor kid! But short of having an active culture at the urethral opening or an infection. It is sterile enough. AND it is your bacteria; you aren't going to give yourself an infection with your own skin culture from your Pstyle or Pibella. The point is to wash it later if water is in short supply. It won't get a chance to get stinky. BTW you should never drink urine!Is Urine Sterile? What the Research Says
The idea that urine is sterile is a pervasive idea, but what does the research say?
The reason this quote triggered me is because years ago I lived on a commune where one of the mothers let her baby crawl around the floor with no diapers, telling us that "urine is sterile" when she peed everywhere. Not.
Yep. I used a pstyle. I was usually fine waiting until a cafe but for those rare times I did need to use it, I was glad to have it. Easy, convenient, quick. Never had to pull hiking leggings or down or unzip hiking pants. Clipped it to the outside of my bag along with a kula cloth and i was good to go. Im in my 40s, fit and have no issues with my knees but I didn't have any desire to be squatting behind trees. Was very glad to have my device.
standing in a male like stance taking care of business.
