Packing List - What's missing?

[ShoughShough]

Hi all,

Long time reader, first time poster. I'll be walking my first Camino this June/July (Norte, Primitivo and Finisterre).

I'm coming in around 7.5kgs skin-out weight before food/water, so about 5kg pack weight depending on what I'm wearing. The weight is okay for my size, but would love to know if there is anything I'm missing! Each list is roughly in order of heaviest item to lightest item.

Gear

• Pack w/ rain cover (Osprey Stratos 33L -- 'tis what dreams are made of)
• Trekking poles
• Silk sleeping bag liner - treated w/ permethrin
• Pillowcase - treated w/ permethrin, for under the travel pillow -- I'm a little paranoid about bedbugs
• Travel pillow
• Clothesline, safety pins
• Caribiners (for fastening shoes to pack)

*Do I need the clothesline? I've heard mixed things. I rarely hike without a rope of some kind, but since this isn't really a rugged hike, I'm wondering if extra shoelaces would do the trick and take up less space.

*Poles will have reflective tape on them, and I might put some reflective tape on my pack. Anything else I should do to be visible on roadways?

Food/Water

• Collapsable bowl (can be used as cup too - planning on cold-brewing coffee in this overnight when refrigerators are available to save on the weight of a coil)
• Spork
• Knife (will buy there)
• 2 liter bladder and quick-fill valve
• Ziplocks

*Should I plan to bring salt/pepper/olive oil? I know I can pick up those things along the way as I need them, but I might be able to find smaller versions/lighter-weight packaging at home.

Shoes

• Merrill hiking shoes w/ inserts
• Chacos (I hope to hike mostly in these)

Clothing

• 2 hiking dresses
• Peshtemal (quick-dry towel/scarf/blanket)
• Crossbody purse - for after walking and rest days
• Synthetic long-sleeve zip up
• 1 pair leggings
• 1 pair shorts (for under dress)
• Raincoat (Marmot Precip - I am in love with this jacket)
• Regular bra
• Sports bra
• Sunglasses
• Gloves
• Buff
• Stuff sack
• 3 pair smartwool socks
• 3 pair underwear
• 4 pair ankle-high nylons (used as sock liners and to keep bar-soap clean)

*Do I need another long-sleeve? The one I'm bringing is not exceptionally warm, but I'm from the Northern US, and 50F/10C is t-shirt weather for me. Rain and wind make one feel much colder though! Right now I'm planning to just buy another long sleeve if I get cold.

Bathroom

• Dr. Bronner's (body soap/laundry soap)
• Shampoo bar
• Conditioner
• Comb
• Deodorant
• Toothbrush
• Diva Cup
• Disposable razors
• 1 Bandana (replaces TP -- leave no trace)
• Toothpaste dots

*Alas, I do not have fine, smooth hair, and without shampoo/conditioner/comb I would have to shave my head. Any ideas for how I can reduce weight in this category? I've heard of people cutting off the handle of their toothbrush. I'm planning to use my buff as a washcloth.

*Rumor has it, showers can be small and lack shelving/hooks. Any tips for keeping the towel/clothes dry? Should I MacGyver a way to hang things from a shower head?

First Aid/Safety

• Sunscreen
• Headlamp
• Moisturizer
• Hand sanitizer
• Hydrocortizone cream
• Space blanket
• Nail clipers
• Tweezers
• Ibuprophen
• Benadryl
• Dramamine (for headache-induced nausea)
• Bandaids & compeed

*Not sure if headlamp is necessary since I have my phone. I'd like to start out before sunrise on some days. Thoughts?

*Any creative ways to re-package sunscreen? I probably won't need the whole 3 oz bottle, but would like to use some until I get a better base-tan.

Misc.

• Sketchbook/journal, drawing pencils/sharpener, kneaded eraser
• Phone
• Case for glasses
• Guidebook
• Phone charger
• Passport, debit cards, cash
• Small mirror
• Mascara
• Earbuds
• Earplugs

*This category is mostly luxuries, but I'm not looking to cut weight here unless there are lighter options that serve the same purpose. These are the things that will help me stay in touch and record my journey (mascara means more pictures).

*I'm also toying with the idea of bringing a second scarf to use as a yoga mat.


Any insight is much appreciated! I have gained so much from reading posts on this forum and will carry your wisdom with me.

-Brenda

 

[dfitzg773]

I used my small clothesline rope nearly every day. I would string it on the bunk bed above me every night to allow clothes to dry if not dry by the time the sun was going down. It also served as a nice barrier when beds were pushed next to each other and you had someone else just a pillow away.

 

[walksolo]

Hi all,

Long time reader, first time poster. I'll be walking my first Camino this June/July (Norte, Primitivo and Finisterre).

I'm coming in around 7.5kgs skin-out weight before food/water, so about 5kg pack weight depending on what I'm wearing. The weight is okay for my size, but would love to know if there is anything I'm missing! Each list is roughly in order of heaviest item to lightest item.

Gear

• Pack w/ rain cover (Osprey Stratos 33L -- 'tis what dreams are made of)
• Trekking poles
• Silk sleeping bag liner - treated w/ permethrin
• Pillowcase - treated w/ permethrin, for under the travel pillow -- I'm a little paranoid about bedbugs
• Travel pillow
• Clothesline, safety pins
• Caribiners (for fastening shoes to pack)

*Do I need the clothesline? I've heard mixed things. I rarely hike without a rope of some kind, but since this isn't really a rugged hike, I'm wondering if extra shoelaces would do the trick and take up less space.

*Poles will have reflective tape on them, and I might put some reflective tape on my pack. Anything else I should do to be visible on roadways?

Food/Water

• Collapsable bowl (can be used as cup too - planning on cold-brewing coffee in this overnight when refrigerators are available to save on the weight of a coil)
• Spork
• Knife (will buy there)
• 2 liter bladder and quick-fill valve
• Ziplocks

*Should I plan to bring salt/pepper/olive oil? I know I can pick up those things along the way as I need them, but I might be able to find smaller versions/lighter-weight packaging at home.

Shoes

• Merrill hiking shoes w/ inserts
• Chacos (I hope to hike mostly in these)

Clothing

• 2 hiking dresses
• Peshtemal (quick-dry towel/scarf/blanket)
• Crossbody purse - for after walking and rest days
• Synthetic long-sleeve zip up
• 1 pair leggings
• 1 pair shorts (for under dress)
• Raincoat (Marmot Precip - I am in love with this jacket)
• Regular bra
• Sports bra
• Sunglasses
• Gloves
• Buff
• Stuff sack
• 3 pair smartwool socks
• 3 pair underwear
• 4 pair ankle-high nylons (used as sock liners and to keep bar-soap clean)

*Do I need another long-sleeve? The one I'm bringing is not exceptionally warm, but I'm from the Northern US, and 50F/10C is t-shirt weather for me. Rain and wind make one feel much colder though! Right now I'm planning to just buy another long sleeve if I get cold.

Bathroom

• Dr. Bronner's (body soap/laundry soap)
• Shampoo bar
• Conditioner
• Comb
• Deodorant
• Toothbrush
• Diva Cup
• Disposable razors
• 1 Bandana (replaces TP -- leave no trace)
• Toothpaste dots

*Alas, I do not have fine, smooth hair, and without shampoo/conditioner/comb I would have to shave my head. Any ideas for how I can reduce weight in this category? I've heard of people cutting off the handle of their toothbrush. I'm planning to use my buff as a washcloth.

*Rumor has it, showers can be small and lack shelving/hooks. Any tips for keeping the towel/clothes dry? Should I MacGyver a way to hang things from a shower head?

First Aid/Safety

• Sunscreen
• Headlamp
• Moisturizer
• Hand sanitizer
• Hydrocortizone cream
• Space blanket
• Nail clipers
• Tweezers
• Ibuprophen
• Benadryl
• Dramamine (for headache-induced nausea)
• Bandaids & compeed

*Not sure if headlamp is necessary since I have my phone. I'd like to start out before sunrise on some days. Thoughts?

*Any creative ways to re-package sunscreen? I probably won't need the whole 3 oz bottle, but would like to use some until I get a better base-tan.

Misc.

• Sketchbook/journal, drawing pencils/sharpener, kneaded eraser
• Phone
• Case for glasses
• Guidebook
• Phone charger
• Passport, debit cards, cash
• Small mirror
• Mascara
• Earbuds
• Earplugs

*This category is mostly luxuries, but I'm not looking to cut weight here unless there are lighter options that serve the same purpose. These are the things that will help me stay in touch and record my journey (mascara means more pictures).

*I'm also toying with the idea of bringing a second scarf to use as a yoga mat.


Any insight is much appreciated! I have gained so much from reading posts on this forum and will carry your wisdom with me.

-Brenda

Hi Brenda,

Hope this helps.

Gear - Ok, no need to bring clothesline but do bring pins.

Food/water - I would loose the bladder and just use water bottles with a spout and refill them. Those bladders tend to make the water taste foul. As for salt, pepper and olive oil, no need. Pilgrims ahead of you will often leave their condiments behind for you to use, as you in turn will likely leave yours for those behind you.

Shoes - NUMBER 1 PRIORITY - protect your feet!
1 pair of walking shoes or boots. Whatever’s comfortable for you that won’t give you blisters.
1 pair of comfortable shoes for when you finish walking at the end of the day.
1 pair of waterproof sandles for use in showers.

Clothing - You have everything you’ll need and you can leave the extra long sleeve at home. If you get colder than your long sleeve can handle just put on your rain coat and you likely won’t need more than that durning the summer months.

Bathroom - If you want to lighten the load than consider waterless shampoo, conditioner and soap. They’re little sheets of soap that you add water to and then rub together with your hands to lather. You can find them at most outdoor and sporting stores.

First aid/safety - I would add to your list a small foldable pocket knife and I would encourage you take your headlamp. You’ll need a light for early morning starts as well as to use indoors at night.

Misc. - That’s entirely up to you.

Been Camino.

 

[Texas Walker]

Hi all,

Long time reader, first time poster. I'll be walking my first Camino this June/July (Norte, Primitivo and Finisterre).

I'm coming in around 7.5kgs skin-out weight before food/water, so about 5kg pack weight depending on what I'm wearing. The weight is okay for my size, but would love to know if there is anything I'm missing! Each list is roughly in order of heaviest item to lightest item.

Gear

• Pack w/ rain cover (Osprey Stratos 33L -- 'tis what dreams are made of)
• Trekking poles
• Silk sleeping bag liner - treated w/ permethrin
• Pillowcase - treated w/ permethrin, for under the travel pillow -- I'm a little paranoid about bedbugs
• Travel pillow
• Clothesline, safety pins
• Caribiners (for fastening shoes to pack)

*Do I need the clothesline? I've heard mixed things. I rarely hike without a rope of some kind, but since this isn't really a rugged hike, I'm wondering if extra shoelaces would do the trick and take up less space.

*Poles will have reflective tape on them, and I might put some reflective tape on my pack. Anything else I should do to be visible on roadways?

Food/Water

• Collapsable bowl (can be used as cup too - planning on cold-brewing coffee in this overnight when refrigerators are available to save on the weight of a coil)
• Spork
• Knife (will buy there)
• 2 liter bladder and quick-fill valve
• Ziplocks

*Should I plan to bring salt/pepper/olive oil? I know I can pick up those things along the way as I need them, but I might be able to find smaller versions/lighter-weight packaging at home.

Shoes

• Merrill hiking shoes w/ inserts
• Chacos (I hope to hike mostly in these)

Clothing

• 2 hiking dresses
• Peshtemal (quick-dry towel/scarf/blanket)
• Crossbody purse - for after walking and rest days
• Synthetic long-sleeve zip up
• 1 pair leggings
• 1 pair shorts (for under dress)
• Raincoat (Marmot Precip - I am in love with this jacket)
• Regular bra
• Sports bra
• Sunglasses
• Gloves
• Buff
• Stuff sack
• 3 pair smartwool socks
• 3 pair underwear
• 4 pair ankle-high nylons (used as sock liners and to keep bar-soap clean)

*Do I need another long-sleeve? The one I'm bringing is not exceptionally warm, but I'm from the Northern US, and 50F/10C is t-shirt weather for me. Rain and wind make one feel much colder though! Right now I'm planning to just buy another long sleeve if I get cold.

Bathroom

• Dr. Bronner's (body soap/laundry soap)
• Shampoo bar
• Conditioner
• Comb
• Deodorant
• Toothbrush
• Diva Cup
• Disposable razors
• 1 Bandana (replaces TP -- leave no trace)
• Toothpaste dots

*Alas, I do not have fine, smooth hair, and without shampoo/conditioner/comb I would have to shave my head. Any ideas for how I can reduce weight in this category? I've heard of people cutting off the handle of their toothbrush. I'm planning to use my buff as a washcloth.

*Rumor has it, showers can be small and lack shelving/hooks. Any tips for keeping the towel/clothes dry? Should I MacGyver a way to hang things from a shower head?

First Aid/Safety

• Sunscreen
• Headlamp
• Moisturizer
• Hand sanitizer
• Hydrocortizone cream
• Space blanket
• Nail clipers
• Tweezers
• Ibuprophen
• Benadryl
• Dramamine (for headache-induced nausea)
• Bandaids & compeed

*Not sure if headlamp is necessary since I have my phone. I'd like to start out before sunrise on some days. Thoughts?

*Any creative ways to re-package sunscreen? I probably won't need the whole 3 oz bottle, but would like to use some until I get a better base-tan.

Misc.

• Sketchbook/journal, drawing pencils/sharpener, kneaded eraser
• Phone
• Case for glasses
• Guidebook
• Phone charger
• Passport, debit cards, cash
• Small mirror
• Mascara
• Earbuds
• Earplugs

*This category is mostly luxuries, but I'm not looking to cut weight here unless there are lighter options that serve the same purpose. These are the things that will help me stay in touch and record my journey (mascara means more pictures).

*I'm also toying with the idea of bringing a second scarf to use as a yoga mat.


Any insight is much appreciated! I have gained so much from reading posts on this forum and will carry your wisdom with me.

-Brenda

Re: shoes: can your Chacos double as shower sandals? You don't want to be barefoot in the shower or wandering around the place.
No need to bring seasonings, but a look into the kitchen cabinet before heading out for food to cook may reveal that all kinds of things are there already. In multiples.
If you have your Dr Bronner liquid, you can wash your head with that too, then chase with conditioner. One less thing to carry. (I can and have used liquid dish soap for everything. Skipping conditioner. But my hair tends to straight.)
I have gotten use more than once out of the 10-15 feet of paracord that I carry to be a clothesline, along with some clothespins. I only carry a couple of safety pins--metal safety pins can and will rust. I have only the contingency level of those, plus a hussif with needles, thread, etc. for small repairs.
Do you have an adapter plug for your charger? The wall holes may not be the same shape as where you live.
I personally would leave behind earbuds and earplugs. The famous snoring is just multisource background buzz anyway--usually--and all I have ever done if it was noticed was roll over and go back to sleep. (Pretty much everyone snores anyway.)
Not going to be bringing a belly pouch? A purse will get in your way during the day, and you will want to have your credencial handy for collecting stamps. Or do your hiking dresses have pockets suitable for carrying cargo?
One last thought: some sports bras have straps with thicker bound edges, which lie under the pack straps while you walk. These are not suitable for the Camino, because of the skin damage that can accrue. After having that type on the first time--had to quit wearing them altogether--I have switched to a lighter, yoga-type bra. Walking with a pack is not high-impact activity.

HTH

 

[trecile]

FWIW, I carry a small crossbody bag all time time. It's very unobtrusive, and more comfortable for me than a waist pack.
I also walk in dresses.
I throw caution to the wind and (gasp) shower in barefeet! No problems thus far in ~ 60 albergue stays.

 

[Tincatinker]

Missing? Corkscrew?

 

[Suzanne S.]

FWIW, I carry a small crossbody bag all time time. It's very unobtrusive, and more comfortable for me than a waist pack.
I also walk in dresses.
I throw caution to the wind and (gasp) shower in barefeet! No problems thus far in ~ 60 albergue stays.

Ditto @trecile , except the dresses. I can never find any I like...

 

[Deleted member 67185]

Food/water - I would loose the bladder and just use water bottles with a spout and refill them. Those bladders tend to make the water taste foul. Been Camino.

I would gently disagree with that broad general declaration on water reservoirs. In the thousands of backpacking miles in which I have used a reservoir, I have never had that kind of problem with the bladders that I have used. Nor has it been at all difficult to keep them sanitized or to refill them. I personally find bladders more convenient for me to use.

There are folks who do not like reservoirs, for a wide variety of reasons, and that's not an arguable point at all; one should only use the equipment that they like. I also have no reason to doubt that water in a bladder that you used may have tasted 'foul', although there are a few reasons why that may have occurred, and the fact that some have also talked about water being carried in water bottles also having an off taste to it.

Isn't it funny how equipment discussions can have such absolutes attached? I guess when we find what works best for us, we hope others will find the same.

 

[Hiawatha]

A twisty elastic washing line weighs nothing and keeps your clothes separate from the rest so they aren't mistakenly removed . No pegs needed and you can pick the sunniest spot to stretch it out for quicker drying.
For the bathroom a small suction cup with a hook to stick to the wall tiles is really useful , most showers have no shelves or hooks , some shower heads are seven feet up the wall . The hook lets you keep your valuables , dry clothes , towel and toiletries out of the water .

On the question of bladders Dave ;
I have used them here in Australia for decades , never without one when bush walking . Spain's water must be different , the water from the bladder I used was horrible , undrinkable and so I sent it back home and used a plastic bottle with no inconvenience instead . I used the same bladder on my last bush walk , no bad taste , peculiar . Perhaps it has something to do with all the vino tinto I drank

 

[trecile]

Ditto @trecile , except the dresses. I can never find any I like...

That's why I make my own.

I also use a water bladder, and my water tastes just fine.

 

[Deleted member 67185]

On the question of bladders Dave ;
I have used them here in Australia for decades , never without one when bush walking . Spain's water must be different , the water from the bladder I used was horrible , undrinkable and so I sent it back home and used a plastic bottle with no inconvenience instead . I used the same bladder on my last bush walk , no bad taste , peculiar . Perhaps it has something to do with all the vino tinto I drank

<my puzzled looking face> I have no explanation as to why that would be. I have run into water that, regardless of container, would taste 'off' or funny, or bad --- but that was likely due to the mineral content of the water in a surface water source, utility chemical sanitation treatments in municipal water supplies, condition of pipes, etc. For that kind of situation, there are teeny-tiny small, backpacking flow-through, active carbon canisters which are designed to attach to a reservoir quick connect system, so that water passes through it as you refill the bladder. They work very well at removing bad tastes from water, although they do not remove parasites, viruses, or bacteria; they can work, however, in-line with a backpacking biological filter.

But if the water was interacting with the reservoir, somehow, to create the bad taste, that type of filter would not help, either.

Maybe your reservoir was rebelling .

 

[Northern Laurie]

I brought two pairs of Jockey Slip Shorts-they worked as pjs and I washed them everyday. The only problem... the last 100km they kept rolling up because I’d lost fat.

I prefer skirt and top combos rather than dresses-more flexibility, and the Macabi was long enough I could also use it as an impromptu change room.

Try whatever hair solution you decide on before you go... the soap leafs were not great for me. And yes, hooks and shelves were few and far between although I managed to make do with a tiny little “shower stuff” bag with a string . Hanging cloths was more of an issue

I did not see a brimmed sun hat/ rain hat. I am fair skinned and the days I lost my hat were both tiring and disheartening-I didn’t get sunburned or sunstroke when I wore it. But the wide brimmed straw hat I had rubbed annoyingly on my backpack. I switched to a narrow brimmed cloth hat with a string.

Hope this helps!

 

[Nanc]

soap leaves did not work for me either and Dr boners soap left my hair stiff . A shampoo bar (Lush) will cover all jobs -they also have them with built in conditioner- so only 1 item

I took clothes line and NEVER used it . Safety pins were a must - breezes took many people's clothes off line and regular clothes pins did not hold

Spork NEVER used it and i ate many meals on my own

A long sleep Zip up can act as a top or a midlayer so another one not needed

I left my bladder at home for all the reasons people talk about: cleaning leaks etc and went with a smart tube with compatible bottles (the bottles last almost 4 weeks) weight was lower than the bladder

somehow, where I stayed i never needed a hook but I had gallon zip locks - all either had a hook or a space between the stall door and curtain, or a small stool

I took travel sizes sunscreen and it was easily replaceable when I ran out

pillow case and travel pillow ? don't most come in their own pouch? like many, I used a stuff sac with clothing in it
I feel its important for safety and vision to have your hands free if needing a light in the dark- I did to avoid 95 degree heat -not sure what the flash light drains on the battery? heads up ! my ultralight 1 oz petzel was almost worthless on the trail -it could not project far enough - make sure the LUMEs are enough to benefit

not two scarfs if the first one is too nice to use as your matt- take only the one that can do double duty

there are some super thin sheeted journal books with minimal weight covers for journaling

you've asked some good questions and know what your priorities are for luxury and care
Nanc

 

[ShoughShough]

I used my small clothesline rope nearly every day. I would string it on the bunk bed above me every night to allow clothes to dry if not dry by the time the sun was going down. It also served as a nice barrier when beds were pushed next to each other and you had someone else just a pillow away.

Great to know! I'm an introvert, and the option for making a place to retreat or sleep "alone" is appealing.

 

[ShoughShough]

Hi Brenda,

Hope this helps.

Gear - Ok, no need to bring clothesline but do bring pins.

Food/water - I would loose the bladder and just use water bottles with a spout and refill them. Those bladders tend to make the water taste foul. As for salt, pepper and olive oil, no need. Pilgrims ahead of you will often leave their condiments behind for you to use, as you in turn will likely leave yours for those behind you.

Shoes - NUMBER 1 PRIORITY - protect your feet!
1 pair of walking shoes or boots. Whatever’s comfortable for you that won’t give you blisters.
1 pair of comfortable shoes for when you finish walking at the end of the day.
1 pair of waterproof sandles for use in showers.

Clothing - You have everything you’ll need and you can leave the extra long sleeve at home. If you get colder than your long sleeve can handle just put on your rain coat and you likely won’t need more than that durning the summer months.

Bathroom - If you want to lighten the load than consider waterless shampoo, conditioner and soap. They’re little sheets of soap that you add water to and then rub together with your hands to lather. You can find them at most outdoor and sporting stores.

First aid/safety - I would add to your list a small foldable pocket knife and I would encourage you take your headlamp. You’ll need a light for early morning starts as well as to use indoors at night.

Misc. - That’s entirely up to you.

Been Camino.

Thank you for all of the advice! Much appreciated. I go with a bladder because I have a tendency to not drink enough as I hike (my pack doesn't have easily accessable side pockets).

My chacos should be okay for the shower and to let me feet "breathe" at the end of the day.

 

[ShoughShough]

Re: shoes: can your Chacos double as shower sandals? You don't want to be barefoot in the shower or wandering around the place.
No need to bring seasonings, but a look into the kitchen cabinet before heading out for food to cook may reveal that all kinds of things are there already. In multiples.
If you have your Dr Bronner liquid, you can wash your head with that too, then chase with conditioner. One less thing to carry. (I can and have used liquid dish soap for everything. Skipping conditioner. But my hair tends to straight.)
I have gotten use more than once out of the 10-15 feet of paracord that I carry to be a clothesline, along with some clothespins. I only carry a couple of safety pins--metal safety pins can and will rust. I have only the contingency level of those, plus a hussif with needles, thread, etc. for small repairs.
Do you have an adapter plug for your charger? The wall holes may not be the same shape as where you live.
I personally would leave behind earbuds and earplugs. The famous snoring is just multisource background buzz anyway--usually--and all I have ever done if it was noticed was roll over and go back to sleep. (Pretty much everyone snores anyway.)
Not going to be bringing a belly pouch? A purse will get in your way during the day, and you will want to have your credencial handy for collecting stamps. Or do your hiking dresses have pockets suitable for carrying cargo?
One last thought: some sports bras have straps with thicker bound edges, which lie under the pack straps while you walk. These are not suitable for the Camino, because of the skin damage that can accrue. After having that type on the first time--had to quit wearing them altogether--I have switched to a lighter, yoga-type bra. Walking with a pack is not high-impact activity.

HTH

Good to know about the earplugs and albergue night noise. I was bringing extra pairs, but will ditch these knowing that the noise is less of an issue. I'm usually a pretty sound sleeper.

Re: belly pouch, I have waist pockets where I can keep petty cash, and can pretty easily reach the top pocket on my pack without taking it off. Planning to keep things like my pilgrim passport, phone, guidebook, etc. there.

Re: Bras. My dresses have shelf bras that will be fine for walking, so the sports bra is a top for swimming/sleeping/laundry days; the regular bra is so I can look a little more "decent" on rest days. I can imagine that the thickness of sports bra straps would be quite painful under a pack!

On a similar note, any thoughts on minimizing chaffing? Body Glide has always struck me as really expensive antiperspirant, but I haven't tried it before.

 

[ShoughShough]

I brought two pairs of Jockey Slip Shorts-they worked as pjs and I washed them everyday. The only problem... the last 100km they kept rolling up because I’d lost fat.

I prefer skirt and top combos rather than dresses-more flexibility, and the Macabi was long enough I could also use it as an impromptu change room.

Try whatever hair solution you decide on before you go... the soap leafs were not great for me. And yes, hooks and shelves were few and far between although I managed to make do with a tiny little “shower stuff” bag with a string . Hanging cloths was more of an issue

I did not see a brimmed sun hat/ rain hat. I am fair skinned and the days I lost my hat were both tiring and disheartening-I didn’t get sunburned or sunstroke when I wore it. But the wide brimmed straw hat I had rubbed annoyingly on my backpack. I switched to a narrow brimmed cloth hat with a string.

Hope this helps!

Thank you for the advice! I'm going with a dress because it won't ride down as I walk or if I lose weight along the way. I've heard great things about the Macabi and might have to keep my eyes open for a sale.

Good advice about the shampoo/conditioner trial. I'm not a fan of soap leaves (too hard to keep dry/separate), but might test out shampoo bars before I go.

I'm not particularly fair skinned, and don't wear hats in my every day life. Planning to pick one up there if I need it, but use my Buff to protect against the sun otherwise.

 

[ShoughShough]

soap leaves did not work for me either and Dr boners soap left my hair stiff . A shampoo bar (Lush) will cover all jobs -they also have them with built in conditioner- so only 1 item

I took clothes line and NEVER used it . Safety pins were a must - breezes took many people's clothes off line and regular clothes pins did not hold

Spork NEVER used it and i ate many meals on my own

A long sleep Zip up can act as a top or a midlayer so another one not needed

I left my bladder at home for all the reasons people talk about: cleaning leaks etc and went with a smart tube with compatible bottles (the bottles last almost 4 weeks) weight was lower than the bladder

somehow, where I stayed i never needed a hook but I had gallon zip locks - all either had a hook or a space between the stall door and curtain, or a small stool

I took travel sizes sunscreen and it was easily replaceable when I ran out

pillow case and travel pillow ? don't most come in their own pouch? like many, I used a stuff sac with clothing in it
I feel its important for safety and vision to have your hands free if needing a light in the dark- I did to avoid 95 degree heat -not sure what the flash light drains on the battery? heads up ! my ultralight 1 oz petzel was almost worthless on the trail -it could not project far enough - make sure the LUMEs are enough to benefit

not two scarfs if the first one is too nice to use as your matt- take only the one that can do double duty

there are some super thin sheeted journal books with minimal weight covers for journaling

you've asked some good questions and know what your priorities are for luxury and care
Nanc

Good idea to have the shampoo bar replace my Dr. B's. How do the shampoo with conditioner bars work for washing clothes? I would have guessed they leave residue.

I'm pretty confident in my headlamp -- same one my stepdad uses, so I might be biased.

I'll leave the second scarf/towel at home.

 

[KerrieG]

That's why I make my own.

Not to hijack the OP - What style of dress works for you Trecile? Can you recommend any particular patterns?

 

[trecile]

Not to hijack the OP - What style of dress works for you Trecile? Can you recommend any particular patterns?

Sort of a T shirt style. I made them from lightweight merino wool. I used a pattern for a tank style dress that I had made several times and modified it a lot - extending the shoulders to make cap sleeves, and adding princess seams and zippered pockets.
It's super comfortable, and easy to just put on one garment. If it's cold I wear merino wool leggings underneath, and a merino sweater on top.

 

[trecile]

On a similar note, any thoughts on minimizing chaffing? Body Glide has always struck me as really expensive antiperspirant, but I haven't tried it before.

Other than the fact that it comes in the same kind of container Body Glide is nothing like deodorant. Gold Bond makes a similar product that's less expensive.

 

[KerrieG]

Sort of a T shirt style. I made them from lightweight merino wool. I used a pattern for a tank style dress that I had made several times and modified it a lot - extending the shoulders to make cap sleeves, and adding princess seams and zippered pockets.
It's super comfortable, and easy to just put on one garment. If it's cold I wear merino wool leggings underneath, and a merino sweater on top.

Thanks Trecile!

 

[amocatnerak]

Your list looks good to me with only two exceptions. First, the deodorant. I took some and it made absolutely no improvement to the sweaty/smelly issue so I tossed it out. I purchased some once I arrived in Santiago though, as a treat to myself. Second, I also brought mascara but never once put it on. I don’t recall seeing anyone put makeup on until after arriving in Santiago. However, these are tiny items which only weigh what, two ounces? So, really not a big deal.

Buen Camino!!

 

[Martin Cole]

I have never found that an extra lb or 2 matters, ie when you buy bananas apples chocolate and peaniuts oh and biscuits to carry for days, no real noticable difference, so take what you feel is comfortable.
Corkscrew more use than a lamp
I'm have a large wrap around travel towel, not a hankie
I always carry a single hanger to dry my shirt each day which I 'dry' in my towel before hanging
I am male and cannot comment on sports bras but cotton pants to sleep in are good!
I always take and use a fair bit is a sleeping bag as some place the blankets are either thin, itchy or lacking.
I use a silk sleeping bag liner in my SB always as nicer so carry both.
This year (full frances route again) i forgot the sealer for my water sack that I love and had to use a couple bottles, was no hardship, mate was happy to grab for me, neither here no there
Never had any prob with my water sack flavouring the water.
Better just yo get out there and walk, problems will settle as you go or you will discard, post home or buy something or just make do.
It is not the big deal it seems just walk sleep shower wash self and clothes eat and chat then repeat, bloody fantastic
Martin

 

[Gabi Wehler]

Hi all,

Long time reader, first time poster. I'll be walking my first Camino this June/July (Norte, Primitivo and Finisterre).

I'm coming in around 7.5kgs skin-out weight before food/water, so about 5kg pack weight depending on what I'm wearing. The weight is okay for my size, but would love to know if there is anything I'm missing! Each list is roughly in order of heaviest item to lightest item.

Gear

• Pack w/ rain cover (Osprey Stratos 33L -- 'tis what dreams are made of)
• Trekking poles
• Silk sleeping bag liner - treated w/ permethrin
• Pillowcase - treated w/ permethrin, for under the travel pillow -- I'm a little paranoid about bedbugs
• Travel pillow
• Clothesline, safety pins
• Caribiners (for fastening shoes to pack)

*Do I need the clothesline? I've heard mixed things. I rarely hike without a rope of some kind, but since this isn't really a rugged hike, I'm wondering if extra shoelaces would do the trick and take up less space.

*Poles will have reflective tape on them, and I might put some reflective tape on my pack. Anything else I should do to be visible on roadways?

Food/Water

• Collapsable bowl (can be used as cup too - planning on cold-brewing coffee in this overnight when refrigerators are available to save on the weight of a coil)
• Spork
• Knife (will buy there)
• 2 liter bladder and quick-fill valve
• Ziplocks

*Should I plan to bring salt/pepper/olive oil? I know I can pick up those things along the way as I need them, but I might be able to find smaller versions/lighter-weight packaging at home.

Shoes

• Merrill hiking shoes w/ inserts
• Chacos (I hope to hike mostly in these)

Clothing

• 2 hiking dresses
• Peshtemal (quick-dry towel/scarf/blanket)
• Crossbody purse - for after walking and rest days
• Synthetic long-sleeve zip up
• 1 pair leggings
• 1 pair shorts (for under dress)
• Raincoat (Marmot Precip - I am in love with this jacket)
• Regular bra
• Sports bra
• Sunglasses
• Gloves
• Buff
• Stuff sack
• 3 pair smartwool socks
• 3 pair underwear
• 4 pair ankle-high nylons (used as sock liners and to keep bar-soap clean)

*Do I need another long-sleeve? The one I'm bringing is not exceptionally warm, but I'm from the Northern US, and 50F/10C is t-shirt weather for me. Rain and wind make one feel much colder though! Right now I'm planning to just buy another long sleeve if I get cold.

Bathroom

• Dr. Bronner's (body soap/laundry soap)
• Shampoo bar
• Conditioner
• Comb
• Deodorant
• Toothbrush
• Diva Cup
• Disposable razors
• 1 Bandana (replaces TP -- leave no trace)
• Toothpaste dots

*Alas, I do not have fine, smooth hair, and without shampoo/conditioner/comb I would have to shave my head. Any ideas for how I can reduce weight in this category? I've heard of people cutting off the handle of their toothbrush. I'm planning to use my buff as a washcloth.

*Rumor has it, showers can be small and lack shelving/hooks. Any tips for keeping the towel/clothes dry? Should I MacGyver a way to hang things from a shower head?

First Aid/Safety

• Sunscreen
• Headlamp
• Moisturizer
• Hand sanitizer
• Hydrocortizone cream
• Space blanket
• Nail clipers
• Tweezers
• Ibuprophen
• Benadryl
• Dramamine (for headache-induced nausea)
• Bandaids & compeed

*Not sure if headlamp is necessary since I have my phone. I'd like to start out before sunrise on some days. Thoughts?

*Any creative ways to re-package sunscreen? I probably won't need the whole 3 oz bottle, but would like to use some until I get a better base-tan.

Misc.

• Sketchbook/journal, drawing pencils/sharpener, kneaded eraser
• Phone
• Case for glasses
• Guidebook
• Phone charger
• Passport, debit cards, cash
• Small mirror
• Mascara
• Earbuds
• Earplugs

*This category is mostly luxuries, but I'm not looking to cut weight here unless there are lighter options that serve the same purpose. These are the things that will help me stay in touch and record my journey (mascara means more pictures).

*I'm also toying with the idea of bringing a second scarf to use as a yoga mat.


Any insight is much appreciated! I have gained so much from reading posts on this forum and will carry your wisdom with me.

-Brenda

Dump: razors, mirror, (u won’t need it, ur beautiful), deodorant (if ur wearing Merino you won’t have bo), conditioner, headlamp (take a mini torch instead, you’ll annoy ppl wth bright light of head torch n ph), replace nail clippers wth nail scissors as more versatile, buy a tiny plastic container for sunblock, fill a small pouch wth any lotion u need (u can buy those small fruit or custard pouches for kids in the supermarket, empty wash n fill). Take the clothesline as I presume it has suction cups on end to use in shower for your towel.

 

[JRO]

Hi all,

Long time reader, first time poster. I'll be walking my first Camino this June/July (Norte, Primitivo and Finisterre).

I'm coming in around 7.5kgs skin-out weight before food/water, so about 5kg pack weight depending on what I'm wearing. The weight is okay for my size, but would love to know if there is anything I'm missing! Each list is roughly in order of heaviest item to lightest item.

Gear

• Pack w/ rain cover (Osprey Stratos 33L -- 'tis what dreams are made of)
• Trekking poles
• Silk sleeping bag liner - treated w/ permethrin
• Pillowcase - treated w/ permethrin, for under the travel pillow -- I'm a little paranoid about bedbugs
• Travel pillow
• Clothesline, safety pins
• Caribiners (for fastening shoes to pack)

*Do I need the clothesline? I've heard mixed things. I rarely hike without a rope of some kind, but since this isn't really a rugged hike, I'm wondering if extra shoelaces would do the trick and take up less space.

*Poles will have reflective tape on them, and I might put some reflective tape on my pack. Anything else I should do to be visible on roadways?

Food/Water

• Collapsable bowl (can be used as cup too - planning on cold-brewing coffee in this overnight when refrigerators are available to save on the weight of a coil)
• Spork
• Knife (will buy there)
• 2 liter bladder and quick-fill valve
• Ziplocks

*Should I plan to bring salt/pepper/olive oil? I know I can pick up those things along the way as I need them, but I might be able to find smaller versions/lighter-weight packaging at home.

Shoes

• Merrill hiking shoes w/ inserts
• Chacos (I hope to hike mostly in these)

Clothing

• 2 hiking dresses
• Peshtemal (quick-dry towel/scarf/blanket)
• Crossbody purse - for after walking and rest days
• Synthetic long-sleeve zip up
• 1 pair leggings
• 1 pair shorts (for under dress)
• Raincoat (Marmot Precip - I am in love with this jacket)
• Regular bra
• Sports bra
• Sunglasses
• Gloves
• Buff
• Stuff sack
• 3 pair smartwool socks
• 3 pair underwear
• 4 pair ankle-high nylons (used as sock liners and to keep bar-soap clean)

*Do I need another long-sleeve? The one I'm bringing is not exceptionally warm, but I'm from the Northern US, and 50F/10C is t-shirt weather for me. Rain and wind make one feel much colder though! Right now I'm planning to just buy another long sleeve if I get cold.

Bathroom

• Dr. Bronner's (body soap/laundry soap)
• Shampoo bar
• Conditioner
• Comb
• Deodorant
• Toothbrush
• Diva Cup
• Disposable razors
• 1 Bandana (replaces TP -- leave no trace)
• Toothpaste dots

*Alas, I do not have fine, smooth hair, and without shampoo/conditioner/comb I would have to shave my head. Any ideas for how I can reduce weight in this category? I've heard of people cutting off the handle of their toothbrush. I'm planning to use my buff as a washcloth.

*Rumor has it, showers can be small and lack shelving/hooks. Any tips for keeping the towel/clothes dry? Should I MacGyver a way to hang things from a shower head?

First Aid/Safety

• Sunscreen
• Headlamp
• Moisturizer
• Hand sanitizer
• Hydrocortizone cream
• Space blanket
• Nail clipers
• Tweezers
• Ibuprophen
• Benadryl
• Dramamine (for headache-induced nausea)
• Bandaids & compeed

*Not sure if headlamp is necessary since I have my phone. I'd like to start out before sunrise on some days. Thoughts?

*Any creative ways to re-package sunscreen? I probably won't need the whole 3 oz bottle, but would like to use some until I get a better base-tan.

Misc.

• Sketchbook/journal, drawing pencils/sharpener, kneaded eraser
• Phone
• Case for glasses
• Guidebook
• Phone charger
• Passport, debit cards, cash
• Small mirror
• Mascara
• Earbuds
• Earplugs

*This category is mostly luxuries, but I'm not looking to cut weight here unless there are lighter options that serve the same purpose. These are the things that will help me stay in touch and record my journey (mascara means more pictures).

*I'm also toying with the idea of bringing a second scarf to use as a yoga mat.


Any insight is much appreciated! I have gained so much from reading posts on this forum and will carry your wisdom with me.

-Brenda

I think you look really well prepared. I DID use and liked my stretchy clothesline, and would string it from the head of my bed to the foot, and then hang my towel, or a scarf over it for a bit of privacy, especially helpful the night I was right next to the door in/out to the bathroom. I took and used a suction cup hook for showers, and liked that my shower stuff was in a small drawstring bag that hung over that hook. Also, the thing that saved my ankles (shoe top hit the bone) and shoulders (straps from the pack chafed) was a small packet of lambswool that a friend gave me. She purchased it at a pharmacy, and I could compact it for padding anywhere, plus you could wash it too. Weighed nothing; the plastic packet was probably 3" x 5".

 

[Marie Christian]

I didn't bother with rope or strings and on the Camino lost a garment tied with a clothes pin, so I replaced the clothes pin with a safety pin and had no problem afterwards. Also I am a light sleeper so ear plugs are an essential for me (and for many people due to snoring in the dorm), as well as an eye cover (like in the airplane) so that I could sleep without being disturbed by either light or noise around. I bought a small cheap headlamp for the early mornings walking in the dark to have my hands free. Didn't bother with shower shoes or shower bag but a suction cup is a good idea: threw my towel over the door. Never encountered any problem.

 

[mick53]

Hi all,

Long time reader, first time poster. I'll be walking my first Camino this June/July (Norte, Primitivo and Finisterre).

I'm coming in around 7.5kgs skin-out weight before food/water, so about 5kg pack weight depending on what I'm wearing. The weight is okay for my size, but would love to know if there is anything I'm missing! Each list is roughly in order of heaviest item to lightest item.

Gear

• Pack w/ rain cover (Osprey Stratos 33L -- 'tis what dreams are made of)
• Trekking poles
• Silk sleeping bag liner - treated w/ permethrin
• Pillowcase - treated w/ permethrin, for under the travel pillow -- I'm a little paranoid about bedbugs
• Travel pillow
• Clothesline, safety pins
• Caribiners (for fastening shoes to pack)

*Do I need the clothesline? I've heard mixed things. I rarely hike without a rope of some kind, but since this isn't really a rugged hike, I'm wondering if extra shoelaces would do the trick and take up less space.

*Poles will have reflective tape on them, and I might put some reflective tape on my pack. Anything else I should do to be visible on roadways?

Food/Water

• Collapsable bowl (can be used as cup too - planning on cold-brewing coffee in this overnight when refrigerators are available to save on the weight of a coil)
• Spork
• Knife (will buy there)
• 2 liter bladder and quick-fill valve
• Ziplocks

*Should I plan to bring salt/pepper/olive oil? I know I can pick up those things along the way as I need them, but I might be able to find smaller versions/lighter-weight packaging at home.

Shoes

• Merrill hiking shoes w/ inserts
• Chacos (I hope to hike mostly in these)

Clothing

• 2 hiking dresses
• Peshtemal (quick-dry towel/scarf/blanket)
• Crossbody purse - for after walking and rest days
• Synthetic long-sleeve zip up
• 1 pair leggings
• 1 pair shorts (for under dress)
• Raincoat (Marmot Precip - I am in love with this jacket)
• Regular bra
• Sports bra
• Sunglasses
• Gloves
• Buff
• Stuff sack
• 3 pair smartwool socks
• 3 pair underwear
• 4 pair ankle-high nylons (used as sock liners and to keep bar-soap clean)

*Do I need another long-sleeve? The one I'm bringing is not exceptionally warm, but I'm from the Northern US, and 50F/10C is t-shirt weather for me. Rain and wind make one feel much colder though! Right now I'm planning to just buy another long sleeve if I get cold.

Bathroom

• Dr. Bronner's (body soap/laundry soap)
• Shampoo bar
• Conditioner
• Comb
• Deodorant
• Toothbrush
• Diva Cup
• Disposable razors
• 1 Bandana (replaces TP -- leave no trace)
• Toothpaste dots

*Alas, I do not have fine, smooth hair, and without shampoo/conditioner/comb I would have to shave my head. Any ideas for how I can reduce weight in this category? I've heard of people cutting off the handle of their toothbrush. I'm planning to use my buff as a washcloth.

*Rumor has it, showers can be small and lack shelving/hooks. Any tips for keeping the towel/clothes dry? Should I MacGyver a way to hang things from a shower head?

First Aid/Safety

• Sunscreen
• Headlamp
• Moisturizer
• Hand sanitizer
• Hydrocortizone cream
• Space blanket
• Nail clipers
• Tweezers
• Ibuprophen
• Benadryl
• Dramamine (for headache-induced nausea)
• Bandaids & compeed

*Not sure if headlamp is necessary since I have my phone. I'd like to start out before sunrise on some days. Thoughts?

*Any creative ways to re-package sunscreen? I probably won't need the whole 3 oz bottle, but would like to use some until I get a better base-tan.

Misc.

• Sketchbook/journal, drawing pencils/sharpener, kneaded eraser
• Phone
• Case for glasses
• Guidebook
• Phone charger
• Passport, debit cards, cash
• Small mirror
• Mascara
• Earbuds
• Earplugs

*This category is mostly luxuries, but I'm not looking to cut weight here unless there are lighter options that serve the same purpose. These are the things that will help me stay in touch and record my journey (mascara means more pictures).

*I'm also toying with the idea of bringing a second scarf to use as a yoga mat.


Any insight is much appreciated! I have gained so much from reading posts on this forum and will carry your wisdom with me.

-Brenda[/QUOTES
Skip the headtorch, a mobile work fine. Also consider some super glue for boot and other repairs

Mick

 

[Nanc]

"First, the deodorant. I took some and it made absolutely no improvement to the sweaty/smelly issue so I tossed it out"
My feet sweet a lot. I used antiperspirant on my feet at night when i went to bed.
I have used it in other situations to lessen perspiration of my feet (like when in cast for 8 weeks)
Nanc

 

[RJM]

Having smelled non-deodorant using pilgrims in the albergues a few times on the Camino, I highly recommend carrying it and using it. Your fellow pilgrims will thank you and IMO it is all part of being polite when living communally. It seems that the only ones that do not believe they smell bad are the ones that do.
I remember once in the army there was a guy we called "dirty sally" He apparently was of the notion that personal hygiene was overrated. In the field he would get ripe and was eventually convinced that he needed to change his ways.
and if sweaty feet are a problem, there's always foot powder....

 

[naplesdon]

I didn't see Vaseline for foot prep in the morning and I like some Vicks on my feet at night. Some chewable Pepto-Bismol is always handy after you had that meal you wished you hadn't.

 

[ShoughShough]

Rest assured, my deodorant will remain packed.

I didn't see Vaseline for foot prep in the morning and I like some Vicks on my feet at night. Some chewable Pepto-Bismol is always handy after you had that meal you wished you hadn't.

I don't like vaseline on my feet, but I might buy a menthol rub at a pharmacy there if I need it and decide the smell is worth it. I think I've heard of smell-light versions of Icy Hot. Pepto tablets are a great idea!

 

[Anamiri]

Having smelled non-deodorant using pilgrims in the albergues a few times on the Camino, I highly recommend carrying it and using it. Your fellow pilgrims will thank you and IMO it is all part of being polite when living communally. It seems that the only ones that do not believe they smell bad are the ones that do.
I remember once in the army there was a guy we called "dirty sally" He apparently was of the notion that personal hygiene was overrated. In the field he would get ripe and was eventually convinced that he needed to change his ways.
and if sweaty feet are a problem, there's always foot powder....

I'm with you on that. In this day and age, there is really no need for smelly pilgrims, yet they do exist. Soap and deodorant are key items.

 

[amocatnerak]

Geez

I am not saying that you should be filthy and un-hygienic and stinking up the albergues. I am saying that hiking all day long and sweating, eapecially in “tech” fabric, causes one’s anti-perspirant to not be [as] effective. I do love taking showers and I am a firm believer in soap! And shampoo! And toothpaste! Also, for clothing, merino wool is so much better than, well, just about everything else.

For the record I also tossed out my razor! Gasp!! An unshaven sweaty lady pilgrim.

Lighten up your load. Or not. Makes no difference to me.

 

[trecile]

Geez

I am not saying that you should be filthy and un-hygienic and stinking up the albergues. I am saying that hiking all day long and sweating, eapecially in “tech” fabric, causes one’s anti-perspirant to not be [as] effective. I do love taking showers and I am a firm believer in soap! And shampoo! And toothpaste! Also, for clothing, merino wool is so much better than, well, just about everything else.

For the record I also tossed out my razor! Gasp!! An unshaven sweaty lady pilgrim.

Lighten up your load. Or not. Makes no difference to me.

I wore almost exclusively merino wool clothing, and even after walking in 35 degree heat my clothes got sweaty, but not stinky. I could have probably gotten by without washing all my clothes every day, but since I had to wash my socks and underwear anyway, I washed my merino wool hiking dress too. When you think about it, deodorant is only effective in one small area of the body. I haven't found much, if any difference in going without.
But I did use my razor, and occasionally mascara.

 

[cowolter1]

The only section where I had a problem (2013 camino season) with not enough water was the twenty something kilometers to Villafranca in Spain. Much of the route is on pavement, it can be hot out in the open, and there are no drinking water fountains along the road. For this section I would recommend more than just a liter of water to be safe. Fortunately, I was, at that time, with others who shared water with me, they had water filter. Treat your clothes with pemetrin!!!! Lots of bed bugs by mid summer. I used a Deuter hostel bag (can't remember the name) that goes to 40 degrees. Lucky if it went to 60, but it worked perfectly. Spain is hot. Hot. Hot.

 

[kelleymac]

Nice packing list. Here are a few comments:

Where do you find dresses with shelf bras?
I would ditch the mascara.
I have curly hair-- well, wavy hair that curls up in humidity. I rarely use shampoo, or comb it out-- I rinse my hair out in the shower and then use condition. Out of the shower I scrunch it up with some styling gel.

I have a tiny led light that is inside my pack that I use if I need to get something out of my pack or put something in my pack during a "lights out" time in the albergue. I also use the dim light from my paper white kindle and not my bright light phone in the morning.

 

[Leigh Macklin]

Shampoo - bars that double as soap are great
Conditioner - buy some on sale hair dye and use the super concentrated conditioner that comes with the dye

Clothesline - perhaps an extra reflective shoelace or two?

Ditch the pillow unless you have neck issues. I brought a spork and used it every day...plus a swiss army card which was allowed on my airlines. Combined with an old margarine container (bowl/plate/storage) I ate great picnics on the CP.

 

[ShoughShough]

The only section where I had a problem (2013 camino season) with not enough water was the twenty something kilometers to Villafranca in Spain. Much of the route is on pavement, it can be hot out in the open, and there are no drinking water fountains along the road. For this section I would recommend more than just a liter of water to be safe. Fortunately, I was, at that time, with others who shared water with me, they had water filter. Treat your clothes with pemetrin!!!! Lots of bed bugs by mid summer. I used a Deuter hostel bag (can't remember the name) that goes to 40 degrees. Lucky if it went to 60, but it worked perfectly. Spain is hot. Hot. Hot.

Thanks for the tips!

 

[ShoughShough]

Nice packing list. Here are a few comments:

Where do you find dresses with shelf bras?
I would ditch the mascara.
I have curly hair-- well, wavy hair that curls up in humidity. I rarely use shampoo, or comb it out-- I rinse my hair out in the shower and then use condition. Out of the shower I scrunch it up with some styling gel.

I have a tiny led light that is inside my pack that I use if I need to get something out of my pack or put something in my pack during a "lights out" time in the albergue. I also use the dim light from my paper white kindle and not my bright light phone in the morning.

My dresses are from Marmot -- https://www.marmot.com/wms-genevieve-dress/889169908910.html

• Pros - Very comfortable, bra included, hits just above my knees, moisture wicking, dries quickly, doesn't stain, holds shape after washing, doesn't look like "hiking" apparel so I can wear them out at night and on my rest days. I have one in black and one in purple. I might live in this dress for the rest of my days.
• Cons - They are sleeveless (I'd recommend testing it on a long walk with your backpack to see if your pack causes chaffing. It doesn't for me on test hikes [18k], but I'm bringing some Aquaphor in case). It doesn't have pockets (my pack has waist pockets and a top zipper section I can access without taking it off, so this isn't a problem for me).

Hair --

Conditioner is definitely my priority over shampoo. Glad I'm not alone! If I can't find a shampoo that works well as laundry soap, I'll keep the Dr. Bronners and go without shampoo. I've also thought about bringing hair butter instead of conditioner since a little goes a long way.

Light --

I like the idea of having a light to find things in my pack without disturbing other pilgrims. I might attached my headlamp inside my pack where my water bladder hooks in.

 

[ShoughShough]

Shampoo - bars that double as soap are great
Conditioner - buy some on sale hair dye and use the super concentrated conditioner that comes with the dye

Clothesline - perhaps an extra reflective shoelace or two?

Ditch the pillow unless you have neck issues. I brought a spork and used it every day...plus a swiss army card which was allowed on my airlines. Combined with an old margarine container (bowl/plate/storage) I ate great picnics on the CP.

Reflective shoelaces are a wonderful idea!

Old margarine containers are a camping staple for me, but my pack size doesn't accommodate for anything that large (thus, the collapsable bowl/ziplock alternative).

Where did you find your Swiss card?

 

[kelleymac]

Here is a tiny light for a pack. https://www.ems.com/nite-ize-buglit...MIiZmq0ZCA2wIVhgOGCh2OCQUeEAQYASABEgI1OvD_BwE

 

[Leigh Macklin]

Reflective shoelaces are a wonderful idea!

Old margarine containers are a camping staple for me, but my pack size doesn't accommodate for anything that large (thus, the collapsable bowl/ziplock alternative).

Where did you find your Swiss card?

I got mine delivered from Amazon. Can't remember cost but under $5 CAN.

 

[Sher]

I'm with you on that. In this day and age, there is really no need for smelly pilgrims, yet they do exist. Soap and deodorant are key items.

I think part of the problem is jackets. Some pilgrims bring jackets that can’t be washed (or they paid so much for their Patagonia jacket that they don’t want to wash it in a machine that might not have a gentle setting) and then they just get sweaty and smellier over the course of the Camino. I would never bring anything that I couldn’t wash.

 

[Texas Walker]

Sort of a T shirt style. I made them from lightweight merino wool. I used a pattern for a tank style dress that I had made several times and modified it a lot - extending the shoulders to make cap sleeves, and adding princess seams and zippered pockets.
It's super comfortable, and easy to just put on one garment. If it's cold I wear merino wool leggings underneath, and a merino sweater on top.

Hi Trecile! I know this is a late response to you, but...Do you remember which tank dress pattern you started with? Just because I sew and am interested in a tank that might possibly be a way to use up knit fabric in stash. (I don't know how one finds nice merino fabric, other than just buying whatever is on sale from Icebreaker) I did once make a top that worked out fairly well, from some orange crinkle ?poplin? that was on hand already, used reflective piping on the seams and added a mesh panel in back yoke. Other attempts to mutate mundane patterns into hike gear haven't gone so well, sadly. But your dress, if you can give a pointer, I would like to try out. If it's not too much trouble, that is!
thanx!

 

[trecile]

Hi Trecile! I know this is a late response to you, but...Do you remember which tank dress pattern you started with? Just because I sew and am interested in a tank that might possibly be a way to use up knit fabric in stash. (I don't know how one finds nice merino fabric, other than just buying whatever is on sale from Icebreaker) I did once make a top that worked out fairly well, from some orange crinkle ?poplin? that was on hand already, used reflective piping on the seams and added a mesh panel in back yoke. Other attempts to mutate mundane patterns into hike gear haven't gone so well, sadly. But your dress, if you can give a pointer, I would like to try out. If it's not too much trouble, that is!
thanx!

It's just a basic tank style dress - Maybe McCall's 6886 or New Look 01898. I have tank dresses from both companies. I made so many changes, that the original isn't recognizable in the finished product. Before I try a new design I make a practice garment out of a cheap fabric approximately the same weight.
I have ordered most of my merino from this company

100% Merino Wool Fabrics

Here are all the listings to purchase by the metre our great selection of 100% merino wool knit fabrics. Different fabric types like jersey knit, rib knit, interlock and other knits. Lots of colors, fabric weights and textures in merino material for all kinds of sewing.

www.newzealandmerinoandfabrics.com

I prefer about 160 gsm, and I avoid the ones with "eyelets", as I had trouble with that sort of fabric tearing easily. This store is another option, though most of their merino is 195 gsm, which I find too heavy. https://thefabricstoreonline.com/collections/merino-knit-fabrics
You mention buying from Icebreaker - do they sell their fabrics by the yard?

 

[Texas Walker]

I have ordered most of my merino from this company

100% Merino Wool Fabrics

Here are all the listings to purchase by the metre our great selection of 100% merino wool knit fabrics. Different fabric types like jersey knit, rib knit, interlock and other knits. Lots of colors, fabric weights and textures in merino material for all kinds of sewing.

www.newzealandmerinoandfabrics.com

I prefer about 160 gsm, and I avoid the ones with "eyelets", as I had trouble with that sort of fabric tearing easily. This store is another option, though most of their merino is 195 gsm, which I find too heavy. https://thefabricstoreonline.com/collections/merino-knit-fabrics
You mention buying from Icebreaker - do they sell their fabrics by the yard?

Not that I know of. But it's not only expensive to buy their excellent stuff, it's hard to get the (rear) sizing right by mail order.

Thanks for replying to me!